The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - BREAKING NEWS on Shoehi Onthani

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

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The feds, the feds. The justice system just held a press conference. Shohei Otani of the Dodgers did not lose four and a half million. He got robbed of $16 million by his interpreter. And Otani, and we predicted this, had no idea. Otani gave his phone to the feds. He said, here it is, Justice Department. Have my phone.

I got nothing to hide. And they went digging, and it wasn't Otani. I know you all love your conspiracy theories, but my takeaway has been, even the average successful person in America has no idea how entertainment stars live. And then you have two different countries, seven, ten, twelve revenue streams. Otani's not an accountant. He's not an American kid whose dad's in the market. He is from a foreign land.

he comes to America, he relies on a lot of people in this country to be honest and have integrity and the one that was closest to him screwed him. By the way, a lot of athletes and actors in my life have been hosed. Billy Joel lost 80 million. Robert De Niro in some, I think it was Art, lost 88 million. Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Kareem, taken for a right, and these are smart people. So how do you get money from a rich person? You get close to them. You don't give it to a stranger. So it looks like Otani, and this was my takeaway. I was listening to the media people talk about, you wouldn't notice a bank account. He doesn't look at his bank account. I guarantee he's got six of them. I don't know a lot of rich people,

but I've known a few celebrities. They hand their finances over to people. They get a monthly stipend. They get a monthly check sent to their financial advisor. And then you cross your fingers that your accountant's not a creep and that your interpreter's not a bad guy but i've watched athletes my whole life i mean i've been interviewing athletes and it's remarkable how often athletes trust people with their worth their net worth it's shocking to me i mean i've got like six different i'm not rich i've got a bunch of people that i have in my life and i've had forever but they all kind of check on each other just in case somebody goes sideways gets into trouble I have a series of people checking on people,

not because I don't like him or trust him, but that's the way you've got to do. But Otani comes from another country, doesn't speak the language. You cross your fingers that you, the people in America that have been surrounded him or hired to help him are ethical. And when money gets involved, people get crazy.

When love and money get involved. It's like sex and money change people. I'm sorry, I've known good people that have done horrible things. Sex and money change people. And it looks like he just got robbed a 16 large. Now, the Fed's called the press conference. And to Otani's credit, he gave him their phone. He gave him his phone just said, you guys just do what you guys got to do.

That sounds like an innocent guy to me. A lot of people bury the phone. He didn't. What do you make of it? Yeah, no, I'm bummed. The more I read, I'm just, like, disgusted. This guy was like major creep, took advantage of Otani. $16 million?

16 million, just robbed him. He was impersonating Otani on the phone. with bank officials. This stuff is really disgusting. I mean, this guy, he deserves to go to jail for a long time. Yeah, and the other thing, and again, a lot of this, you're going to have it in the update. Yeah, we'll do more in a little bit. Yeah, we'll have more information, but it's

I just think you have to remember that creatives, athletes, artists, singers, they have the opposite brain of an accountant. They are creators, and this is not what they do well. Some of the smartest people in Hollywood have

been taken for a ride. Yeah. And it's not that they're naive or they don't care. They're not into it for the money. They're into it for the art. Otani's into it for the baseball. He's not sitting there counting his checks. And be careful about saying, well, I know every penny.

Well, you make, you know, 60 grand a year. Or maybe you make a lot of money. You're not signing a $500 million. I mean, Otani's worth more than companies in America. Successful small companies. This was like his closest friend for, like, six years. Their families traveled together. You don't expect your boy to rob

you blind of $16 million. Like this is really... I feel awful for Otani. I know people are going to paint him as stupid and oh, he's not going to pay him to him paying attention. It's really just a dirty, ugly story. I mean, listen, we've had institutions of the Catholic Church. Like, institutions we view

as foundationally moral do horrible things to children. You don't think an interpreter would do it to a baseball player? I mean, again, we've had foundational schools, churches, people that we believe we can tell secrets to. You know, you go and you repent your sins and you don't think they talk. You don't think an occasional psychologist talks. Doctors are supposed to keep things. People talk.

That's why you have laws and regulations and hippa. You know, you have all these laws to protect the average person from professionals. And, you know, Otani is sitting there thinking, I got a good guy. He'll help me out. 16 million. My Mike White, could you get it back? I guess not. You know, the next stage of this

is conspiracy theory guy. No, no, those guys are, it's over. There's nothing to be conspiracy about. There's nothing. Otani is cleared. I don't want to hear, whoa, whoa, how did this guy get that much money? He was talking to bank officials

as if he were Otani. He was lying. He was changing account so Otani would not get alerts on his phone about his bank account. Like, he was doing that. O-Tani's in the clear. The conspiracy guy can shut the hell up.

Like, there's no conspiracy. Yeah, but you know, and there's a big chunk of America thinks the elections rigged. We know it's not. But the idea that the conspiracy theory group, the theorists, are leaving, I mean, you have stuff on, it doesn't matter if it's 9-11, January 6th, elections. The moon landing. Come on. Yeah, I mean, no, no, no. The crazy town now is going to say, what about this, this, this?

The story that's coming out, and listen, the feds came out and just laid it out. This kid got robbed. It's just awful. Now, now the good news is, well, good news, I guess. The most, almost all his money has gotten pushed down the road. Right, right, right. So, and I think they will meet, hopefully they can retrieve some. But his contract, the Dodgers have done something that is very unique in professional sports. I don't even know if it's legal in other sports, but in baseball, they just pushed all the salaries down the road. Will Smith, O'Tonnie, I think monkey bats, maybe I'm wrong on that. So the Dodgers push your money down the road. So he's not most, 90% of his money, he hasn't seen yet. So that's the really good news. And the other thing is he seems like, and again, this is me being naive. But I just, I've seen enough of O'Tonnie and talked enough about him and know people that know him.

He seems like a really good kid. I mean, when some bad stuff happens to athletes, I can make a call. You and I can make a call to an agent, and you find out very quickly if a guy is a creep. It doesn't take us long in the world in which we live. You know, we both have agents and representatives. We work at big networks. We can kind of find out if a guy is, you know, there's a reason certain baseball players get kicked out of the sport and are not let back in. Like you, there's a lot of knowledge that doesn't get to the public.

That's a bad guy. That's a bad person. Boy, it's hard to find anybody with O-Times. that had a bad word to say about him. And you'd think there'd be a lot of jealousy and international baseball star. Boy, people say nice things about him. By all accounts, a really good guy

just got hoodwinked by someone he thought was like his best friend. I don't know. This is kind of a story of greed, but also, and I hate to say this, Colin, but like, it's tough to trust people when you hear a story like this. It's really tough to, I don't know,

I'm one of these, like, trust nobody. I know that's like an X-Files line. But like, it's tough to trust people when someone's taking advantage of you like that. It's just seeing that that story, like, that was his buddy. That was his right-hand man. Yeah, I don't know. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.

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Yeah, I've said for years, if I have very strong opinions on the draft, then it's coming from a GM or a scouting director or a scout. I like Bo Nix, but the scouts don't love him, so I'm probably wrong on that. I love Caleb Williams, and they love him too. But through the years, I've leaned on people that just have more access than I do. And Dane Bruegler is about as good as anybody that does this. NFL guy at The Athletic, he just released The Beast 400 scouting reports. You just have to go get it. You just have to go download it.

2,000 prospects. So it's basically I said, I'm agnostic, so it's my Bible. Okay, it's my Bible. I'm going to read this thing. I strongly encourage you to. So let's start with this. We're in the nitpicking season. And, you know, that was, I remember Phil Sims saying about Andrew Luck, I don't love his arm.

And I'm like, Phil, give me a break. He's got a good enough arm. And I love Phil. But with Caleb Williams, there is one criticism, Dane, that I heard and I kind of into that he can at times lean into the spectacular and I'm like that's a college thing so you at you talk you mean you did this you went you did submarine work you dove a mile deep are there legit concerns that aren't nitpicking where guys on Caleb have worries well we're there's no such thing as a perfect prospect right all these guys have some areas where they can improve for for me with

Caleb the biggest area I want to see him get better is actually the fumbles 33 fumbles over the last three years. And he takes care of the ball through the air. Over the last two years at USC, 200 pass attempts on third or fourth down, zero interception. But over the last three years in college, he has 33 fumbles. And so he leads all of college football and touchdowns, 120,

but he also leads college football and fumbles. And so ball security must get better. I do think that there are times where he will search for the home run instead of taking the single or the double. But at other times when you're watching the film, you understand why he's doing that. He has rare football awareness. He understands what the defense is trying to do.

He understands where his protection is, where the pressure is coming from. And so I think there's a method to the madness. It's not just Caleb running around and playing backyard football. He knows what he's doing out there to move the chains and be a creator. So with Caleb, I do think, you know,

you put a crazy play on Twitter, and he everyone, oh, that won't work at the NFL level. He's doing these for a reason more times than not. Either it's third down and his running back ran three yards when he's supposed to run four yards at the sticks, or there's a safety lurking and about to drive on the throw. I mean, there's always a reason to why he's trying to move platforms, throw from off schedule.

So, yeah, he has rare football awareness, and I think that's something that'll translate pretty well to the NFL game. So I like J.J. McCarthy, but, I mean, when I watched Michigan, not just this year, but last, I like the coach, the O line, the defense, the corners. I never said, and J.J. McCarthy, he feels like a top five pick. Now, that position gets overdrafted. And frankly, probably it's okay based on the point value and what they're worth. With McCarthy, my take is, though, it feels Alabama-like, never trails. Great run game. Unbelievable protection. That's not the NFL world. These Alabama guys come in,

it's like, yeah, you don't lead. You have the second best coach. You have a bad O line. How do you view him and are those credible criticisms by me? No, of course. Do you want more of a body of work from J.J. McCarthy? Absolutely. And that's certainly fair. But I think it's just the way the offense was built. They wanted to win in the trenches. They wanted to win with the ground game. And who are we to argue? They won the national championship doing it that way. But I don't know, I'm a big time guy. And so watching Ohio State just demolish Michigan the last 20 years, but then when JJ came in, it just felt a little bit different. They had a quarterback that on third down, fourth down, he could go make a play when they needed

him to. So do I wish there were more plays where he was winning down the field? Absolutely. But when he was called upon, especially, you know, watched the Alabama tape from the Rose Bowl, third, fourth down, he went and made a play. And so I'm very encouraged by what he was asked to do on those crunch time throws. And I know, look, fans roll their eyes at the quarterback win-loss record. Teams care about it, so I care about it. And in high school, 36 and 2 with a state championship, in college, 27 and 1 with a national championship, the intangible factor with J.J. McCarthy has won over a lot of coaches.

and you look at his game. He has the tools. He has the ability. The intangibles, check that box. And so for a lot of teams, you can understand why they want to target a guy like J.J. McCarthy. And to your point, there's a quarterback tax, right? If he's the 21st best player in this draft, you're not getting him at pick 21.

You're going to have to trade up to go get him. And if you're the Vikings at 11, you're not going to be able to sit put, whether you have to worry about the Giants at 6. You have to worry about the Broncos or the Raiders trading up in front of. of you. So there's a good chance we do see quarterbacks go four in the top six and who knows, maybe even one, two, three, four, which is

never happened before. You know, as sports get more based on analytics that we don't fall for just players that are aesthetically pleasing. I mean, Yokic doesn't jump. Luca's not a slam dunk machine, but they just always get their shot. So analytics has

changed. The sex appeal, the slam dunk champ, we used to just fall for it. I fell for it. You know, Michael penics. The optics, it is so pretty. It's just the prettiest ball. But you have him graded second, third round. You have him six of the top six quarterbacks.

And it's hard for me. I grew up a husky fan. I watch him live, and I'm like, that is the prettiest deep ball. That's like 2-0 with arm strength. Like, that's gorgeous. But you don't love him. And you got second, third round. Great. That's almost Kenny Pickett-ish. Like, what is the

concern here? I think there are several aspects of his game that are just inconsistent, the anticipation, the way he deals with pressure. And I think the perfect example, the college football playoffs, you watch him against Texas, a very vanilla defense, and he knew what was coming. He knew how to beat the defense, and he put probably the best game he's ever played on tape in that game. But then the flip side against Michigan, a defense that really mixed up what they were doing out there. He didn't know where the pressure was coming from. The coverage was tight and he really struggled.

And so I think it's a really interesting juxtaposition with those two games, those two tapes. What's the NFL going to show you? It's not the Texas game. He's going to see a lot more Michigan's at the next level. And it's not to say that I dislike Michael Pennix. The mental toughness, that's going to win over teams for sure.

But if you're going to draft a quarterback in the first round, top 25, you're telling me that you think he's going to be a top 12-ish quarterback in the NFL at some point on his rookie contract. And I just I can't get there with Bo Nix or Michael Penix where I see them as a top 12 to 15 quarterback in the NFL. They can start.

They have the ability to start at the next level. But if I'm going to invest a first round pick on a quarterback, I have to firmly believe he will be a top 12 to 15 quarterback in the NFL at some point during his rookie contract. His annual draft guide is called The Beast. It was released Wednesday at the Athletic. D.P. Brugler, 400 scouting reports, nearly 2,000. Now, in my recent memory, the two receivers that I looked at and thought, oh, yeah, that's going to be great, guaranteed. Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson. I just said, that's a, that's a, now, Jamar Chase was close to it where I felt like I was watching a pro football player just playing on Saturdays.

But he wasn't Randy and Calvin. Marvin Harrison and me is like Calvin Johnson. Like, that's a, he would be a top 10, 12 receiver right now. maybe I'm being hyperbolic, but I mean, when you look at him, like, what's the flaw? Tell me what I'm supposed to not lie. I just, to me, he's maybe not as dynamic as Randy Moss, but I don't see how he doesn't star immediately in the league.

It's hard not to be hyperbolic when you talk about him because so many areas of his game are well above average. And what you love about him is, yeah, he has size. He's over 6, 3, 2, 10. and he has athleticism, even though he didn't test, he would have run on the four-fours. His agility would have been very good.

But what you love about him is his savvy. Like, if you talk to him about route running, he dislikes running fades or go routes or post because he wants to show off his route running, his ability to sink and separate and do these different things. And then at the catch point, that's where he really shines,

his ability to adjust outside his frame. And he reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald with the knack, for slowing the ball down. And I know that doesn't make sense in terms of physics. But if you watch Chris Carter, you watch Larry Fitzgerald, they had that unique ability to slow the ball down at the catch point to frame it and make the completion happen.

So if we're going to nitpick him, he's only 210 pounds. He's not 230 like Calvin was or even 220 like Julio Jones was. And I think that when you look at playing the receiver position, there's three components. There's getting open, there's catching the ball, and then there's creating after the catch. He's really good at the first two. Not so much with that third one. He has not been a yak monster at the college level.

And so in terms of making guys miss and breaking tackles, that's not necessarily his game. Now, if you give him a slant in a runway, he'll take it. But he's not going to break a lot of tackles. So if we're up to nitpick Marvin Harrison, Jr., that would be my concern with him. Dane, I know you're proud and you should be. This is just great. It's called The Beast. It's the Athletic.

I strongly encourage you to sign up for it. The athletics got great, great journalism, great insight. I live on the thing every day. Dane is always. It's a pleasure. You're busy. Go hang out with your family. You've spent the last year going a mile deep on this stuff.

You can just, when you read it, you just see how much work you did. Congrats on this project. Yeah, thanks so much, Colin. Anytime. All right. Dane does great work. The Beast. And that's the perfect name for it.

That thing came out yesterday, and it's like, I'm getting text. I'm like, with buddies, I'm like, this is the guy. This is the guy. All right, J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, just to understand, so the Otani story broke like 30 minutes ago, 35 minutes ago, and there's a lot to take in.

Okay. There's 37 page. The document is 37 pages that the Fed's released. So we're still combing through it. There's crazy. stuff in there. I don't know how much of I should try to read on air. Go ahead. Because, okay, okay. So anyways, the big picture is this former interpreter stole more than $16 million

from Shohay Otani, and he's being charged with bank fraud, which can carry a maximum of $1 million and up to 30 years in prison. Yep. All right. So, there's so many crazy ones, Colin here. I'm getting them on my phone. So this is one note in 2021. that, I'm sorry, 2023, that Otani's interpreter

had not paid the amount to the bookmaker. The bookmaker sent him a text message. Hey, it's 2 o'clock on Friday. I don't know why you're not returning my calls. I'm here in Newport Beach and I see

Otani walking his dog. I'm just going to go up and talk to him and ask how I can get in touch with you since you're not responding. Please call me back immediately. Like there are all these messages from the interpreter to the bookmaker that this guy was deletive.

and not paying his bets. He started to funnel money from Otani set up a separate bank account. Otani's agent was like, hey, what is this account? The interpreter goes, that's an account. Otani wants separate. He doesn't want anybody having access to it. The agents asked repeatedly about this separate account. Meanwhile, what the guy was doing was setting up money to steal from Otani and pay.

Colin, this story is seedy. It's gross. A lot more is going to come out in like the next eight hours. The stuff is just mind-blowing. How bad he got taken to the woodshed here. Now it's time for the conspiracy wackos, and here they come. Well, the Dodgers, the Angels, Otani. People that need to feel that they've got information that the rest of us don't.

That's conspiracy theorists. That's, hey, I've got stuff the media doesn't have. Here they come. The big stinker for Otani is, you know, he's got to get asked about this. I would say, don't address it. This is personal. I got robbed of 16 million. I don't want to talk about this.

I don't. I got a baseball season to focus on. I just hope it doesn't, and it's tough to say it wouldn't. I hope it doesn't impact him as a player, because he's one of the greats in the game, should lead the Dodgers. Again, 90% of his money, he hasn't been paid.

But the mental thing, you know? Well, I know, but I think athletes are usually great at compartmentalizing. Hopefully, you know, when you go to the stadium, Dodger Stadium, you're out there to be with your team. I think in the locker room, I think this will, engender him to other teammates. I think you'd feel, I mean, if he was my teammate, I'd feel terrible for him.

I would too, yeah. I would feel awful. He's going to need a support system. One last one pulled from the 37-page complaint. Between December 2021 and January 2020, the interpreter placed approximately 19,000 wagers. Jesus. I ran the numbers.

That's over 24 bets a day consistently for 26 months. He lost nearly $40 million. Now, this is one that I'm sure the conspiracy theorists are going to say, 19,000 bets and none on baseball? According to this, no bets on baseball games by the interpreter. But you know people are going to say, how can you make all these bets and not one on baseball? You can't, it's almost impossible to place 19,000 leaders.

I mean, baseball is every day for like eight months. Yeah, but I've got to tell you something. I know a lot of gamblers. None bet baseball. It is college basketball, college football, pro football, golf. Like my, the guys that I know, they just have a life.

They don't want to be sitting watching the Cincinnati Reds for four hours. So a lot of people just don't bet baseball. That's the no life crowd. And also, maybe the interpreter was smart enough and had enough decency to go, I'm going to bet, but I'm not going to get, I'm not betting baseball, because I know I'd get in trouble with that. People can be awful, but not, but have a solid. I mean, it's possible the interpreters like, I'm not betting baseball.

So I don't want to raise red flags in this sport. That would get all of us in trouble. So this is just me. Maybe he validates in his mind. I'm not betting baseball. I'm betting football. It's not as bad. I would hope you're right.

Some conspiracy theorists might argue the dude was down 40 million. He is in the baseball locker room every day. I'm sure he's trying to use that knowledge to gain an edge. But so far, 37 pages, no bets on baseball, according to the feds. This is the feds. It's not baseball. It's a fence. It's not baseball investigating.

It's offense. Next up, the Lakers and Warriors. They appear locked into the playing tournament, and they might meet as nine and ten seats. Steph and Golden State have gotten the better of L.A. this season, three and one, although I don't know how much we count Tuesday's games. I count it completely with excellent gamesmanship by the Warriors. Oh, AD had the sniffles.

Warriors. The Sniffles. The Warriors not only didn't have a cold, they were not cold. Yeah. So, LeBron. The most historic in league history. The greatest night ever in 3.2. LeBron spoke about how tough it is to go up against the Warriors.

That's reps and reps and reps and reps of actually guarding something that's uncomfortable. Guarding Steph is uncomfortable. And the problem with our guys in our league, they're not comfortable with being uncomfortable. And that's why Steph and Golden State Wall always be relevant because they play an uncomfortable style of play. Do you hate that? I hate it when you don't have the personnel to match I just hear the word hate I hate it

So that's from LeBron's Mind the Game podcast I don't think they have that much to worry about here If AD's back Now he couldn't sit on the bench because the lights were too bright That's a bad sign you know that Hey on for the record My perceptive laser vision noticed this Because I had really good seats to the game

I didn't have to guess with binoculars like you So when I was there I noticed something thing during warm-ups. LeBron was sweating like crazy. So apparently LeBron was in bed until the very end and then got like, you know, drove or somebody

drove LeBron to the stadium. I think it's one of those. So AD and LeBron were both sick. I went to the warm-ups, I'm by the Laker bench and I'm like, that's not a pre-game sweat. LeBron dropped 33 and probably had like

100 degree temperature. 33, 11, and That is his flu game. Honestly, MJ's flu game, second tier compared to LeBron Tuesday. Imagine if the Utah Jazz could shoot. They could have made 23. I mean, Jeff Warren, and John Stockton couldn't make anything. No, but I mean, he did not look right in warm-ups. He didn't.

It was heavy sweat. Go get the tape. Lakers will win the playing game. Lock that up. Final story, the Bears traded Justin Fields to the Steelers for that conditional sixth-rounder in 2025. It wasn't a big return, but the Bears, former director of player personnel, Josh Lucas, revealed why the price was so low. He said after three years, there was a lack of instinct from Fields and that the league was

telling them he's viewed as a backup, not a starter. That is the word I've heard used. Oh, harsh. No, that's Zach Wilson and Justin Fields are the two quarterbacks. I like Justin Moore that I have said, certain guys just don't see. the field and don't have a feel for the game at the NFL level. And I think that's Zach Wilson, who moves well with a good arm, and that's Justin Field, who moves well with a good arm.

There is a feel to the pocket in the NFL, and the best I've ever seen is Mahomes. He's got a good arm, obviously. Some guys, they can hear it. They can sense it. They know it, and they're just really comfortable in the pocket. And I've never felt that with Justin or Zach. It's like they hear things that aren't there. They see things late.

And it's just the word used there is instincts. He's talented clearly. He's big, strong, and moves well. You've got a good arm. But there is something to be said about feel. For anything, be a stand-up comedian. Some people in front of crowds, they're better in front of a crowd than they are practicing their material. They're just better and a live audience. They just have a feel for it.

The difficult part about quarterback analysis, why nobody in the league knows what they're doing, is how do you properly assess instinct? You can't put a number on instinct. You just either kind of have it or you don't, or maybe you might have it, you might develop it. Who has good instincts in this draft? Does Caleb Williams? Because he seems to tuck and run a lot like Justin Fields. I think Caleb Williams has great instincts. And Drake May and... I don't know, but I've watched more of that. I think he's got to... very good instincts. That's what I would say about Caleb, having watched him more than any of these quarterbacks. I can't make a judgment on the rest of them, but there are, there is something to be said.

You mean, look at how many people are good-looking men and women in Hollywood. They've taken all the same acting classes. Why are certain people like Christian Bale? There is just an it. There's an instinct. Like I watch him and I'm like, I buy him as Dick Cheney. I buy him everything he's in. What is it? I mean, a lot of these guys aren't even classically trained. Like, what is it with an actor? It's a feel. Some people, the camera's on, you're in a room, there's a feel to it.

It can't all be, I'm smarter, I'm better looking. Some people just have it. And I think, you know, Caleb's got it. There you go. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News.

I'm going to call Ann today. and I'm going to ask her about our kids playing craps. Your parenting advice earlier is, it may be a seminal, foundational piece of parenting that America this point forward embraces with zest and zeal. It really resonated with you, huh? Your kids watching you play 21 for math expertise. I think it's an outside...

This is not a new... I mean, other dads told me about this. Oh, is that a Manhattan Beach thing? All right. Let's not reveal to. This is like, you know, started in like first... second grade, quick math, you know, like, hey, seven and a six, you get dealt. What are you doing here?

What are the odds? Hit. Put on that Caesar's vest. That's good parenting. Well, it depends with the dealer's showing. I don't care what anybody says. That is good parenting. Springtime's the perfect time to give a fresh look.

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But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Overpromised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two-hour show. We never get to everything. Honestly, because this guy is over-promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips. Blame and me.

Well, you know what? It's called Overpromise. You should be good at it because you've been open. We're promising women for years. Well, it's a Kavino and Rich after show, and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Overpromised.

Well, if you don't get enough, Kavino and Rich, make sure you check out Overpromised, and also uncensored, by the way. So maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Overpromising. Perfect. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join.

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Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered, conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.

What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jette. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here. unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for Black.

Black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Saturday on Fox, the United Football League kicks off the week three action with a battle between the Memphis showboats and the Birmingham Stallions. It all begins at 7 Eastern on Fox. Spring just got stronger. By the way, John Calapar is the new coach from Kentucky to And so we've been critical of him through the years, but he very optimistic, had the right tone. Here's his opening presser for Arkansas. To do what I was able to do at Kentucky, I was happy.

I mean, I loved it there. My wife loved it there. You know what? 15 years I was there. Did everything I could. Gave every ounce of everything I could. And you know what? I'm jacked about another opportunity.

Like, I'm like, let's go. Now, I met with the team. There is no team. We've got to get a roster together. And some of it is a little bit of everything, but we will. All right. Don't have a problem with that. 15 years, won a title, started hot, really hot, cooled, not good at the end, but 15 years of noteworthy work is fine. He's going to win a lot of games at Arkansas.

It's not Kentucky as a program, but he'll get him into the tournament. probably year two. They got a lot of work to do, but he's a great recruiter. All right, so the big story today is Shohei Otani, who gave his phone to the feds, and now we're getting all the messages. He was robbed of $16.5 million by his interpreter. There are no baseball bets on this. I never believed it was Otani.

I thought he got robbed. I didn't think they bet baseball. The conspiracy wackos are going to come out of the woodwork. All the insiders in Vegas, here it comes. Gamblers are a different, you know, brief. So I'm not looking forward to that. J-MAC, some of the phone messages in this 37 page, like manifesto by the feds, what are you seeing on the phone messages? So here's one from the interpreter, September 24, 2021.

You could probably look up the date to see what actual match this is. The interpreter message, a bookmaker, I've just been messing around with soccer. There's games on 24-7, L-O-L. I took UCLA, but they lost outright. I mean, this is the kind of degenerate gambler this guy was. He's just messing around with soccer with Otani's money. Betting, losing, doesn't care. On to the next.

I mean, this guy was, I mean, he's certifiably insane, right? Like, just betting on sports, he doesn't even know. I'm messing around with soccer. He lost $40 million to the gamblers. That's crazy. I get nervous. I mean, I am very pro sports gambling. $50 to me is like, I feel good about that.

Can I hit a two-team parlay? a hundred bucks that's a serious bet we both make a nice living I mean that some people just you know there are also some people that are just more aggressive more manipulative I mean if you gave me a free role and said hey here Jason goes about I mean I would hopefully be able to win some stuff but would you rather have a free bet or a free steak dinner I would need more information what I lean it into food yeah well it depends what the bet is in the size hold on here's another November 14, 2022, interpreter message, a bookmaker.

I'm terrible at this sport betting thing, huh? LOL. Any chance you could bump me up again. As you know, you don't have to worry about me not paying. That's from, you know, basically the reporters for MLB are going through all the 37 pages and pulling out some stuff. They got all his text messages. This guy stole Otani's money and gambled it away and was terrible at gambling. And had, was just beyond cavalier.

Unrepentant. Yeah, Calus. Bank fraud. Like this guy's, there's, listen, there are bad people among us.

And bad doesn't mean murdering people, but there are people without a conscience. There are really bad people out there. And we've had them in our church. You know what I mean? We've had them in our school systems. We've had them in government. There are bad people out there that just can do evil things to what they call friends.

I don't get it. like it's sociopathic I mean it's crazy you'll find like this doesn't rise to serial murder but I read a lot of books about you know true crime and a lot of times there's this thing that all serial killers have

where they later acknowledge yeah I just didn't care I didn't have the I didn't have the gene that I cared about people like that's like a real thing in the Green River killer in Washington State he's like yeah I never had empathy I just don't have it and there are people that don't

do terrible things that acknowledge they lack that empathy gene where they cry, they feel bad for others. Like, you know, it doesn't always end tragically, but this guy sounds like somebody. He is sociopathic. Like, he just doesn't care. It's cavalier. It's like, oh, it's not my money. He's got a lot of money coming.

I don't care. I don't know how people can do that, but it's out there. And it happens all the time with pro athletes and entertainers. Any other good phone messages here? I mean, there's a lot to comb through. I think tomorrow's show is going to be. really good. Once you have time to go through the 37 pages, this just broke, what, 45 minutes ago, hour ago? You should tell people, Otani gave the feds his phone. He said, you go. Yeah, here it is.

I'm an open book. Would you do that if you were guilty? You get nothing to hide. Right? Check my house. Check my computer. Here's my phone. You get all of it. That's an innocent man. To everybody except conspiracy guy. That's coming. Has the Jets quarterback waited on this? dead or no. I'm not going to get into that. I know. Some people sent me a link to something else he said recently. I don't know.

I'm just, yeah, I'm over it. Well, I tend to think conspiracy theorists are people that think somehow that society doesn't recognize their brilliance. And so they want to find things where they, they have information that you simply,

you and I, you know, dim bulbs, we don't have. Dim bulbs. So there's a lot of, conspiracy theorists have the biggest egos in the world. They want to prove that. They really have insight.

Reddit board guy. And so that's what, when you get conspiracy theory, it's guy that wants to show you the insight that us commoners don't have. Instead of actually doing homework and the feds here are not the Dodgers. They're not baseball. Yeah. You got wire fraud. You got, this is big boy serious.

Thank God the Dodgers contracts pay people down the road. Thank God for that. I mean, so he was in some way. protected him. Well, more to come. Quite a show tomorrow. Holy moly. Exhausting.

I'm like sweating from this show. So is America. See tomorrow. It's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter

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