The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Brenden Rice

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

Jerry Rice's son, Brenden Rice sits on the couch with Colin, explaining why he's ready for the NFLSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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well Brendan Rice many know him because of his father but we followed him at USC and i'm not sure i can recall a receiver making a bigger leap uh from his junior year to his senior year and he is joining us i saw him in the hallway during the break and i said i knew you were a worker your dad had a legendary work ethic michael pitman another trojan legendary work ethic and so there was a time as a junior i didn't know if you were an NFL player and all of a sudden I watched last year and I'm like, oh no, you're going to go, you're going to go closer to the front than the back of the draft. Is some of that just your dad in your ear for years? Because Jerry was known as the hardest working receiver in the league. Was a lot of that

from dad down? I would have to say that my work ethic was always there. And even Coach Riley spoke highly on just what I did in practice and as well as the weight room. It was just going ahead and staying composed within the moment and not letting the moment get too big. And my dad preached that for the longest time to me. Because he saw the work I was putting in day and day out. Now it was time to go out there and just transition it onto the field as well as staying composed. So you're a physical receiver, but the speed to beat people as you see over the top. What do you look at and think, those are nice highlights.

So you're obviously beating man coverage here and that you, yards after the catch, you're a physical, dude, you're physical. Carrying linebackers. What do you look at and think I've got to get better at something? Oh, yeah, I have to get better at yards after the catch. I have the burners and speed to go ahead and reach top speed, but how can I get there the quickest way? And how can I, it's pretty much angle positions, footing, that type of stuff, drop step and getting it vertical and just being aware of my surroundings. So you have your pro day tomorrow.

You went to the combine. Did you get feelers? Are there teams that you kind of walk out of there and think, man, they really were interested? I would like to go ahead and say a couple teams, but it's never the teams that you would think. end up drafting you, the ones that are kind of sleepers, and I don't want to, you know, put bad juju out there, just, you know. So let me ask you about Caleb. It's very obvious.

You probably figured it out very quickly working with him. This is special. But he is a player that can go off script and likes to move. I'd argue he's almost as comfortable out of the pocket that in it. Does that make it easier, harder? Like early on, first year with him. him. Was it an adjustment with that kind of athlete at quarterback? Well, Colin, my first year with him, just being in the environment and being in the,

going to war with him, it was kind of crazy because I didn't know how to work with him. I had to get adjusted and just an off-time and quarterback, but likes to be on timing as well, because if you're not doing certain things or if you're doing too much at the top of the route, he's going to get on you about it. But shoot, he might roll out the pocket. Now you're trying to go around with him. And I'm like, it's confusing. But once we built that chemistry and I got to know that,

more and more started thinking like him. That's when you see the production from the second year and it just grows and grows and grows. Yeah. Did you feel he was accurate? Oh, crazy accurate, man. Just go look at the tape. Yeah. Heck yeah.

Is he, was he easy to communicate with? Was it something? Because he came in kind of as a star and you're obviously the son of a legend. Was it a weird dynamic early? I would have to say, yeah, it was kind of weird because he's a different type of cat. But one thing you can respect at all times is his work ethic. and who he is the person he's going to come in each and every day and put his best foot forward. So I could actually follow somebody who's going to lead to that example.

But I would have to say, like, working with him wise, we got the hang of it, man. We got the hang of it. Yeah. So do you feel, you know, Bronny goes to USC. Your dad's a legend. What are the advantages of that, dad being Jerry Rice? Is there an advantage to it? I mean, sure, I came from Boulder, Colorado.

So when I came from Boulder and I looked at USC, I asked. said there's such a long list of prominent and dominant guys here and you just see all the last names and all the legends and I know that I'm going to fit right in and nobody's really going to look at me twice whereas in Boulder he knows a big deal you were a big deal when you went there yeah yeah the Mel Tucker stuff be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on fox sports radio FS1 and the iHeart radio app imagine an olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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you get your podcasts um do you know brawny by the way have you met him yes i have met brawny what is it like for him on that campus i've i can only imagine it's hectic for him yeah just being the son of lebron james especially that lebron james is still in the league and still i was saying he's prime and dominant as ever i don't know about you but that's my goat yeah uh i would have to say like yeah it could be hard at times yeah do you guys talk about that is that like a discussion you can kind of relate? There's a lot of guys with the same last name as me like Sharif, O'Neill and his

little brother and you've got to go ahead and take it as a blessing because our fathers were able to go ahead and create a legacy and paved away for us. So now it's all up to us about our work ethic and how we handle it. So this year was viewed as disappointing by USC

and Lincoln Riley. Obviously a smart guy. Did you see the stress because it didn't go as planned? Could you sense that things weren't going well? Was it was it on his face week to week? I would have to say no matter what he kept he kept to compose. He said guys we're going to go back to work and we're going to dominate this next game. He didn't care about what happened in previous game like I think it turned to just bad after the Utah game. Yeah. We lost in that last

second field goal and you see like so many few mistakes but you know they're game changing mistakes. So you have to go ahead and look at it as how can we minimize those mistakes so we don't make it happen next week. And it just, hey, things happen and we just went down. How is Lincoln as a coach offensively? You walk into a program. Is it complicated? Does it ask you to do multiple things?

Did he assess you very quickly? Tell me about Lincoln's coaching and your relationship. He's going to build your football IQ and who you are as a person. He's going to ask a lot of you. But same thing with all college coaches, man. But the person that I really liked who I looked up to was Dennis Simmons. That's the reason I wanted to go to. receiver coach. Yes, he had Marquis Lee, Michael Crabtree, C.D. Lamb, and I want to go ahead and be a part of that just because of who he was to his kids, to his wife, and as well as who he was on the field as a coach.

Yeah. Is Lincoln during a game, he's play calling, is, how is he a play caller? Like, could you kind of predict what's coming, or was he unpredictable? We had a short list of first and 10, second and five, third in five, third and longs, and you can, could basically tell, like, I can, if you gave me a situation, I could probably tell the play right now. Yeah. So you had a very, very good final year at USC. And is there, when you look at yourself in the combine in your pro date, like your pro day tomorrow, what are you trying, it's in shorts, right? You're working with familiar quarterback. Is Miller Moss, for instance, throwing to you? Who's throwing to you tomorrow? Uh, Caleb Williams. Oh, Caleb's going to throw for you. Heck yeah. Okay, that's great. Okay. So, um,

Do you know exactly what you're doing? What are you trying to get out of your pro day tomorrow? I'm trying to go ahead and compete. And whatever people would like me to go out there to do, I'm going to go out there and do it. A couple drills, couple routes, do a little bit of Elta shuttle and the L drill three cone, and just try to put my best foot forward, man.

Who do you view your game to be after? Compare it to somebody in the league. Maybe a former Trojan, maybe not? I hate comparing. But I would have to say, I like the dominance of Keenan. I like the dominance of D.K., a little bit of Mike Evans, those type of guys. You're a physical receiver. For sure.

So when we showed those highlights initially with Brendan, you think you have to work after the catch. But I think one of the issues, you're a faster version of Pooka Nakua, but Pooka's just big. And you found when I watch these videos, I look at you as somebody that takes pride in not being tackled. Oh, yeah, you can't be tackled by the first man. Always have to make the first man miss. Most of my issues came from the second man. And honestly, a lot of my tape, I had a bad ball security, which I have to go ahead and

clean up. What is that? Why is that? I felt as though, you know, you get past the first man. Okay, I'm trying to break out. You'd be a little bit too eager, but the second guy is coming and trying to punch that ball out. Yeah.

Brendan Rice, joining us, played all four seasons, two at Colorado, two at USC, 45 catches, 12 touchdowns. You know, the transfer portal really benefited you, but I think it can be problematic. And a lot of times when coaches complain about it, they sound like old guys. You know, the kids, all they care about is money. So Jordan Addison obviously came. It was publicized. He got some lettuce. Take me through, do players now mostly care just about the dough? I mean, take me through the transfer portal. Do you like it? Are you concerned about it? How do you view it as a star player? I'm very concerned, but I'm thankful that some guys get some opportunities to go and play at other places, just as well as coaches get to, you know, just jump around. And the portal for me, it wasn't all about money.

I got offered some couple million dollars just incentives and stuff like that. And I came to USC because I wanted to play with Caleb. I want to be with Lincoln Riley. I want to learn from Dennis Simmons. I wanted to build off my football IQ. And I want to be a part of the long list of Trojan receivers to wear number two. to as well as just be within the Trojan alumni and stuff like that. Yeah.

Are there guys, I mean, listen, a lot of it is you grew up with a dad that was affluent and had money. Did you feel like you didn't necessarily, that wasn't the primary goal for you? It wasn't a necessity? I'm always, I don't know if it was nothing. No, it was definitely a necessity. Let me say that. Shoot, my dad is a farm boy from Mississippi. He's very stingy with what he has, but I am thankful for everything that he's.

does for me. But yes, you're going to go ahead and look at it that way, but I was looking at it 20 years down the line. I'm going to have a USC degree. I'm going to be in the lead. I'm going to be better off. And you can't look at the short-term goals. Are you, you know, it's amazing. You're at USC, you're getting ready for your pro day. Do you have a guess? I mean, you obviously size yourself up. You don't like to compare. If I said third round, does that feel right to you? No. Second round. Yes. I would hope. Shoot, I would like to be a first round. under, but it's by the grace of God and God has my own path set for me. And I just hope that I'm following it and just staying online with it.

You know, it is, I was thinking when you, when did you realize, obviously you're a great player, but when did you realize, six, seven, eight, nine years old that, you know, just because your dad plays football doesn't mean you're going to. Your dad could be a boxer. You don't want a box. When did you know, man, this football thing is fun? I started off playing tackle football when I was about five, six years old, and I was running into the end zone doing flips and all that type of stuff.

Yeah. I was one of them kids, just kind of crazy knucklehead. I used to play every position on the field. I even play alignment for a little bit. I was going to say you were a bigger kid probably. Did you ever do the defensive stuff? Oh, yeah. I was on the defensive line, linebacker, all that type of stuff.

But you went receiver? Yes, sir. Was it an easy? Was receiver easy for you? It was easy. for me because I played so many positions and I was able to learn okay now of alignment learned how to block running back okay learn how to show up my strides so I can make certain juke moves and stuff like that

safeties and corners now I get to see what the defense is looking at and all those perspectives go into my game as a receiver so you're a big film guy and you told me most of your friends in football are guys that are committed like you and do film give me an example you're watching my film I'm an Oregon DB. Are you looking for tells? Like one of the moves we showed, he bit on an outside step and you went in. When you look at film, are you looking for like the poker player? You're looking for tells? Oh yeah, I'm looking definitely for tells. How does he line up versus man? Cover three quarters, cover six rats, anything like that. And I'm looking if he's see if he's flat footed,

he's going to jump press me. Does he like to open his hip? Does he like the shadow technique? Stuff like that is the little things that will go ahead and separate you. as a receiver. Yeah. Are you a trash talker at all? Only when it's talked to me. But I like to respond with my play, and then I might give you a little something. Trash talker over here.

Oh, crap. This guy. He did, never the end of it. Hey, it's great meeting you. Say hello to your father. 6-2-215. Are you at the weight you want to be for the NFL? 215 now is a physical receiver.

I'm 210 right now. I'm at the perfect weight. I'm going to stay between a 208 to 212. range and I feel as though that I'm the most just ready to go at that way. What do you run your, I don't, I don't care much about 40 times. I think it's mostly first step acceleration. Some guys play

fast in pads. You play very fast to me in pads. What do you run? I would have to say, what do I run? Like Puka. Puka didn't burn up at the 40, but when you watch him, nobody catches it. Exactly. I would have to say like if you go off the GPS, I hit, I was third at the

combine. I ran 23.7 miles per hour. And I talked to a couple coaches and they were like, hey man, like you don't have to run a 40 again. Like you, we see who you are and you're a top end burner guy. You go ahead and be a deep threat and cause

defensive stretch. What's your favorite play? Is it getting a bubble screen and break in tackles? Is it over the top? Like if I said to you, the because I'm watching some of these highlights and you're just bowling over people and I think, oh, this, you love this. Is there a play that you dream of, that you is, it shows

your talent. I would have to say, Caleb just goes ahead and goes up to the line of scrimmage, and he just checks me to a post. And he checks me to that post. I get to go ahead and stem him, lean him to the left a little bit, and then cross him up, and he has to spin out, man, beat

over top, catch it, touchdown. Had a few with those. Had a few of those. You did. Great meeting you. Good luck to you. You as well. Thank you. All right. We'll be back. Wrap up our herd line news after this. Most home break-ins happen in Broad. Day's get longer. This thing spring. Protect your home with Simply Safe Home Security, 20% off any new system. Simply SafeCollins, C-O-L-I-N.com.

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you guys are the absolute best. There you go. At coming up with the stupidest takes possible. You know what those clowns say. Just listen to the Paulian Tony Fusco show on the IHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,

embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement

to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, Follow at Clifford and a TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.

What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, J-Mack, Brendan Rice, Jerry's son, USC receiver, sees himself as a second-round pick. Very, very productive for the Trojans. Nick Wright stopped by today without further ado. Jay Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the third line news. The Jets will be at his pro date tomorrow. Maybe we should pop over there. See what's going on? Maybe I have a dentist appointment. tomorrow.

Out. I've had harsher rejections from ladies. Well, what time is his pro to 8.30 a.m.? Okay, I'll go over there and just show up on the set, right? Right. Let's start with the sequel to Netflix's quarterback series. It's been announced. It's going to be called Receiver.

The five players, the docu series following are following are Devante Adams, Justin Jefferson, Debo Samuel, Amara St. Brown, and George Kittles. That's a lot of personality. that's going to be much more outspoken than quarterback. Well, we know Devonte Adams, I mean, he was popping off all season. Justin Jefferson was hurt for half the season. Debo is a legendary talker. Amara St. Brown was one of the top guys in the league.

Kittles, like a pro wrestler. Kettle's interesting. I wonder how they're going to show his Super Bowl highlights. He was invisible. Well, there's no reason to pile on. Listen, I like Kiel. I'm a Niners guy. Yeah, I don't know.

These docu series are getting interesting, right? No, I think they're good. I mean, it's pretty predictable. The NFL's the only TV show in America. Old people, young people, left coast, right coast, Midwest, rich, poor, middle class. It's the only show that works for every demographic. That's it. There's one show.

Politics doesn't. Young people tend to be kind of disengaged from political stuff on TV. The NFL's the only TV show. There is no demographic that it doesn't pierce, not one. No. Really impressive. Next up, Kenny Pickett. Boy, this is the most we've ever talked about, Kenny Pickett.

So he was traded to the Eagles after Russell Wilson signed with the Steelers. There were reports that Pickett did not handle the Russ edition well, and that's why he was shipped, but Pickett is now pushing back on that narrative. I just thought it was time. You know, it just felt like it was time from, you know, the things that transpired and, you know, wanted to get a chance to go somewhere else and continue to grow my career. And I think the communication, you know, is what it is.

It was behind closed doors. You know, I'm confident in the way that I handled it. I handled it the way I should have handled it. You know, I'm excited to be here. It worked out so well that Philly was the place I ended up landing in. So I think everything happens for a reason. And, you know, I'm right where I'm supposed to be. He was in a very rare quarterback draft class.

We haven't had many of those in the last 20 years where there was no quarterback viewed as an elite first-round talent. It was viewed as a bit of a reach by the Steelers. He was viewed mid-second, top of the third, how most teams had him graded. Like this year, we've got only Bo Nix is not in the first round. Bo Nix and the two-lane quarterbacker probably viewed his second, top of the third. But that was a weird year, is that we can bang on Kenny. But it just wasn't, remember you had the kid that went to Tennessee, Willis from Liberty, that got flushed out.

We could call them the COVID quarterbacks. The few COVID years that were out there, it all didn't pan out. But let me address something real quick. Kenny Pickett said, I just thought it was time. Correct me if I'm wrong. He was in Pittsburgh for two years or three. It wasn't his decision. It was barely there.

It was time? What do you doing, dude? You were a first round pick. You didn't even last half your rookie contract. I felt like it was time based on things that it transpired. Well, I don't think he was happy with the organization. I credit the Steelers for making, in my opinion, the right, but a very tough decision. He's a local kid.

And the other reason I look at him differently. Kenny Pickett started for a lot of years, played in the same town, same stadium. It's different if you ask a one-year starter at Florida to travel cross-country to Indianapolis. Like I thought Anthony Richardson, that was a hard ask. One year, 13 starts go to the NFL, AFC, and yet Anthony Richardson popped before he got hurt. You were like, wow, Kenny Pickett started for like three, four years, same stadium, same topography, geography, weather. I'm going to ask you, I need you by Thanksgiving of your first year to show me something. So by the time you get to Thanksgiving of a second year, and I haven't seen anything, it is time to move off.

These guys are not a, you know, a Brock Purdy starts for four years. It's clearly an advantage in the NFL. Clearly, I mean, Bo Nix has 61 college starts. There is nothing Bo Nix does that scouts do not see. He's had to scramble, running left, running right. Like Kenny Pickett, everybody had the video, and out. Outside of the Steelers, I didn't talk to anybody that saw him as a first round quarterback. Okay, let me ask you then.

Why would the Eagles go grab Kenny Pickett to be their backup? When, when? We've seen the best of them, 40 touchdowns at Pitt, and Zach Wilson's still out there. And I don't think we've seen the best. No, because I think Kenny Pickett, more college starts at a high level. Zach Wilson had a lot of stuff. Kenny Pickett's not inconsistent. He's limited.

Zach has great highs, but he's all over the map. I kind of know what I get with Kenny Pick. I have no idea of play-to-play what I get with Zach Wilson. You can refine Zach Wilson. I would take Kenny Pickett over it. He feels to me that I know exactly what I get with Mack Jones and Kenny Pickett. Well, they're backups. I don't need him as starters.

If you looked at the 10 best throws Zach Wilson made, I guarantee you they're better than anything, Kenney Pickett's. I'm not disputing that, but my backup quarterback, give me Drew Stant. Lower ceiling, know what I get. Give me Chase Daniels. I don't need some wildly explosive backup. I want a guy that learns the playbook, good in the film room, good teammate. If I have to start him in two games, he can win one. Is he a good teammate if he thought it was time to play a longer?

He has bristled. He has pushed back on Pittsburgh, a defensive culture where, remember he got there very early and complained. Remember this when he got there to early and he was complaining. that he wanted to practice more than he was allowed to practice. There was something that happened very quickly after he was drafted, and he was getting frustrated with Pittsburgh. I remember thinking, do I like that or not? I'm not sure.

It's tough to go from being the guy in college, and he had one awesome year at Pitt, just chucking and ducking. Big numbers. I think they went to like a January 1st bowl game. That pit pit team was good to being like, and we don't know if he's the guy in Pittsburgh. Final story is kind of a bummer. Leighton Van Derrash of the Cowboys has announced his retirement.

Yeah. He only had a six-year career. He was pretty damn good at lineback. Good athlete. A lot of injuries said his body won't cooperate any longer. Yeah. Now, I did a bit of a deep dive on this on my podcast. They've now lost six starters, the Cowboys.

Yeah. Six. Two on the offensive line, Pollard, Gallup, Dante Fowler, and Van der Resh. And we don't know what's happening with Gamebo. And by the way, and didn't spend any money in free agency. I don't know what's happening. Well, I'll tell you what's happening. They have to sign Mike and C.D. Lambs.

in a year and now DAC is a $55 million cap hit. That's what's happening. They're going to have to have a great draft. And you can say, listen, Gallup has been a shell of himself since the injury and Pollard, like, you know, he was okay, he's better as a two.

That's just a lot of losses. And, oh, by the way, head coach is lame duck. So I don't know what to do with the Cowboys. They've won 12 games each of the last three years. I don't see like a regression to eight or nine, but... I just think they had a deplete. of productivity. And there's some leaders in there, and it's,

they seem so, I mean, it's just so obvious. Minnesota said, listen, we love you, Kirk. But we can't pay this. We're going to spend very little money at quarterback. We're going to draft one done. So they have made a pivot. Dallas is not, and I think Kirk and Dak are the same guy, if you look, statistically.

Dak moves better. Kirk throws better. And my take is, Dallas is not comfortable pivoting off Dak. Go look at Kirk Cousin's numbers last year. pre-injury. Yeah, they were on fire. I know.

Why, they were? What do you mean, you know, they were? I think they, didn't they start out like 0 and 4? They didn't have a great start, but he was remarkable. But I mean, Minnesota is doing, Minnesota is making the pivot. Dallas is terribly uncomfortable with, and I think a lot of this is DAC is good for merchandise.

He's good for the brand. You know, I just, I kind of look at it, and I think Minnesota and Dallas were in the same space, and one said, I'm not paying this guy who's pretty good, 48 million and Dallas is like yeah we'll pay 55 million. Somebody sat here about a month ago and said I would take Cooper Rush over a given DAC $55 million. You laughed at me and now

you're saying Minnesota did the right thing. Yeah but Cooper Rush isn't the answer. I'm not he could be a bridge quarterback just the way they, whoever they had last year Minnesota. That's a bridge too far. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Line News. So this is very interesting so i like jerry judy going to the browns i would never make him a number one he's too inconsistent but the browns and jerry judy have agreed to a three-year contract extension up to almost 60 million bucks including 41 fully guaranteed so mark slareth was very critical of him as a denver talk show host um a couple of weeks ago when judy was traded to denver from denver to cleveland mark slarus said he's just not a great football player he doesn't run secondary routes well to attract coverage, drops the football, doesn't block.

It's not the kind of player you need in Denver to rebuild this thing. I agree with what Mark Slaroth is saying. I think he's fast and has talent. He's just disappears. He'll disappear for halves. If you're not throwing the ball to him, he doesn't do you much. He's not going to block much. He's not what I would call a great teammate.

If the ball's going to him, he can make plays and he's fast. So Cleveland stepped up and paid Jerry Judy a lot of money. He's sort of the classic so far in his career. A lot of talent. A lot of hope and just hasn't delivered on it. Those are dangerous players to give $58 million to. But there's also the fact that he's a younger guy, came from Alabama, probably felt entitled, got his wake-up call in the NFL. I think this is a good move.

I like this. I think Jerry Jude, we talk about stocks, Colin. You want to buy low. They're buying low on Jerry June. Yeah, not that low. It's $58 million. That's not buying low. But to get him, and remember, this is $58 million's funny money.

How much of his guarantee? 41 million guaranteed. That's not ideal, but they didn't give up much to get them. That's a lot. You know, Cleveland makes weird moves. Cleveland is such a, I mean, the fully guaranteed Deshawn contract. That's like what I would call a low sports self-esteem team. They were desperate.

Well, they're always desperate. Cleveland always is. And what's funny about Cleveland, I love the GM and I love the coach. I love the pass rusher. The O-line, the run. There's so much about Cleveland I like. This is a lot of money to give Jerry Judy. Though I do think he could be a nice,

two on this team. But to your point, they have four quarterbacks and nobody can figure out why. Boy, by the way, Browns fan, I went on social media like an idiot after saying that. And Browns fans are like, it's fine. There's no big deal, nothing to see here. I'm like, all right, no, we'll see. I've never had a Browns fan. One of them apologized after my

accurate depiction of the Baker Mayfield pick and years. Not one apology. They're an angry group. Well, I mean, it's just a lot of losing. And a lot, it's just... Just like Jets fans, you know? But there's a lot of Elements. I mean, they stack. They can go toe-to-to-to-physically with anybody.

They beat San Francisco. I watched the game. They went toe-to-to-to-physically with the Niners. Trent Williams, DeVille. Oh, it rained. Ooh. Rain games don't count. Debo. Debo did he hurt? This is not the NBA. The games are played outside. I think McCaffrey missed the second half of that game. Yeah, that's because Cleveland banged into him and knocked him out. Here we go. For hot water that never runs out, go to Navian. Tanklessmade Simple.com, 15-year warranty. only heats water when you need it so it never runs out saving your water bill to navion at tankless

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