The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Browns-Broncos, Tua

Episode Date: October 21, 2021

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Case Keenham's fine. He's not Baker. I don't like late substitutions at quarterbacks because I don't know how the team's going to react. How many snaps has he had over the last two weeks? like none that matter. They do have the better roster, though, and Jarvis is back. They do. And Jarvis back is a huge part.

He's kind of that soul of the offense. So I'd probably take Cleveland close. What's the weather like there tonight? Is it going to be low-scoring, windy weather, cold weather? I am the official meteorologist of the herd. It's 70 degrees in Los Angeles with no wind, not to be obnoxious, but that's our weather today. 62 degrees, but they are expecting some rain. That's okay.

88% humidity, 14 mile per hour winds. Oh, that's windy. So, well, Bridgewater doesn't have a big arm and Case doesn't have a big arm, so that tells me you're going to have more of a running game. And the running game is all injured for Cleveland. Yeah, it's a coin flip. But by the way, Greg Jennings, Joy and I were talking about this. There's three games this week where teams are favored by 12 or more.

Arizona is favored by 17 over Houston. I want to bring on Greg Jennings. Was there ever a game, Greg? you were either favored by close to that or an underdog by close to that. In Miami, were you ever like a 13, 14 point dog? Why did you go to Miami, man? Nobody goes to Miami when they talk about my career. What if you do it to me right now?

Okay, okay. As a favorite, were you ever a 13 point favorite? 14. There we go, man. Yes. Okay. Yes. In Green Bay, obviously, when we play Detroit, and we actually lost.

Okay, so I want to talk about that. When you're a big, because I've never seen ever in my life, three games in the NFL with a 12-point favorite. So when you guys obviously knew you were big favorites, when in the course of that game did you think, oh, oh, hell, this is, we're not, we're not ready to play. Okay, so I'm going to go directly to my own performance. I had to play clearly a touchdown. It's a double move. We took a shot, play. It might have been after a turnover.

kind of Mike McCarthy's M.O. And I'm wide open. I destroyed the safety, double move out and up type of deal down the middle of the field. And I just, I dropped the ball. It hits off the top of my helmet. And it gets, I'm running down the field like, oh, my gosh, because I dropped it. Meanwhile, it got intercepted. And they're running back the other way.

But I had no idea. After that play, we were already struggling offensively. I'm like, this is just not the day. And I had a, and as a player who makes plays who feels like you can get your team and help your team out of a rut to contribute, it's like we all kind of knew, like, this is just not going our way. We're about to possibly lose to the Detroit Lions. And Mike McCarthy after that game was livid.

I had never seen him like that after that. By the way, you're getting inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame in 2022. Packers just announced that. And we were talking about this, is that Green Bay is America loves it sports and small market, big market. When you got to Green Bay initially, did you know immediately, I don't know if you're from a small town, you went to Western Michigan, were you an immediate fit? Did you love it?

Because there's not a lot to do there, but did you fit immediately? Did you love it? I was an immediate fit for football purposes, for business purposes. It was a great fit. Even for my family, I'm from a small town, Kalamazoo, Michigan, right there where Western Michigan is. So there was a lot of translations that I could take from home to Green Bay, a lot of comparisons. But I will say this, it was one of those deals where for me, as a player,

you just have a knack of feeling when you're in the right situation. And with Brett being at where he was at the stage of his career, he still kind of had something to prove. They had had a losing season the season before. And Donald Driver really emerging as one of the best receivers in the game. And there were so many guys that individually had things to prove that collectively, we had some pieces. It was just a matter of starting to understand.

and learn how to win again. And we were able to do that. It was a perfect fit for me. So there's a story about Deshaun Watson going to Miami, people in Houston that have broken stories for years, multiple people, two or three journalists saying it looks like it's going to happen. I said this earlier. Years ago, I'll tell the story again for people that missed it, years ago, Randy Moss was a

Patriot. He was crushing. And after about three years, Randy's history that, you know, he didn't last anywhere for a long time. There was a Monday night football game in Miami, and the Patriots targeted him once. And I went on the air, I was at ESPN, I went on the air the next day and I said, okay, he's out. You do not target him. It's one thing if he had one catch and was doubled.

They targeted him once, he's out. And five days later, he was out. So it was a little thing, but it felt massive to me. When teammates didn't name to a captain, they see him at practice. I'm like, that ain't good. That ain't good. I really thought that. And I got a lot of pushback on that.

but it meant something. Quarterbacks are almost granted that. So what it tells me with Tua in Miami, the stuff I don't see, practice, you see it, I don't, players see stuff, and they don't trust what they see. That's why the Deshawn Watson rumors keep that, that's my takeaway. Your thoughts on the rumors that they're going to replace Tua already. Yeah, well, you can't get over on players. And when it comes to them potentially replacing Tua, and this is what all the,

the talks are about. I could definitely, like you said, I listened to your segment earlier. I could see why. I could definitely see why. You talk about Tua not being named captain, but you watch how they used Tua last year. And I get it coming off the injury. You want to give a player time. But it's one thing to give him time.

It's another thing to know, okay, we're going to allow him to play. So as a player, we no longer care about your injury and what it was. if you are on the field, show me something. Right. Be who we thought you were capable or brought in here to be. And to your point of him not being named captain, there's just, there's, there's, there's telltale signs in the National Football League in life. And one of those signs is a lack of leadership somewhere or whether it's performance

base, whether it's verbally based. Yeah. However it is, there is a lack of leadership that is. is missing in Tua that players felt like, now we're not just going to even hand it to them. Because as you just mentioned, the quarterback by default typically is granted access to that C on their uniform. And that didn't happen with Tua.

So yes, it was a very big deal. I was one that was in your corner. When you said it, I said it. It is a big deal because as a player being in locker rooms, we know what that means. It's not just about your leadership skills. off the field and how great a person you are and he is, that's what we hear. But you better be able to live up to all the hype and produce some wins. And the players, they're going to tell you everything you need to know if you listen to them.

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He, you know, the team was lousy. They're literally 0 and 6 without him in Detroit this year and we're 5 and 28 when he didn't play in Detroit due to an injury. And it just, it just goes to show you. We showed it earlier. We put up his L.A. numbers and his Detroit numbers. And it's like he's two different players. He's got a better pass rating than Aaron Rogers as a ram.

And the other one, he's a guy you'd, you know, well below Kirk Cousins. And when you were years and years beating Stafford, are you surprised that all, it's been this easy, this quickly, and this good. No, everybody, everyone has always seen the potential in Matthew Stafford. Everyone. It was just a matter of being in the wrong situation. And there are so many times we're like, well, how is it that they can't win with Megatron and all these offensive weapons that he has had, in particular, Megatron, let's face it.

But they were never a great team and they were never a great organization. and you have to be run the right way. You have to be, there has to be everyone moving in harmony from top down all the way to the locker room. And that's never been the case in Detroit. And when you look at the struggles of Jared Gough and why he's struggling so much and why Matthew Stafford was even able to win games is because of that ability, that skill set, that raw talent that he had, that he possessed, that he can come back in the waning moments of the fourth quarter, which he did more than anyone in our game, often, he was able to use that to his advantage. Well, Jared Gough doesn't have that same skill set. And so when you have an offense that was solely based around a quarterback,

and then you take a quarterback that is comfortable with an offense being solely based around the system, that's just not a good fit. By the way, we talk about good, bad organizations. So Green Bay is obviously very well run. Miami, not so much. When you went to Miami, how many days? before you were like, I'm serious now, Greg.

How many days before you were like, this ain't great, man. Like, like, it was it like locker rooms were a mess? Give me a moment when you were like, man, this ain't buttoned up like Green Bay. Well,

I'll give you a moment. I don't like putting guys on a spot, but I'll give you a, for instance, an example. Okay. And Dominic and Sue had signed, and he was the big signing.

Big signing that year. And I remember going to, one of the off-season programs, and the entire team is actually participating in the program that is set for the team, not mandatory, but everybody is actually going through it together. And then Domic and Sue was out on the other field going through his own deal. And I remember looking at that, like, what is this? And I knew then that, yeah, there's discord. We're not all on the same page because there was, there would be no way that in Green Bay, even in Minnesota, that that would have ever been allowed.

I don't, it didn't matter who you were. Adrian Peterson didn't have, yes, he got some preferential treatment, but he was with the team while getting that preferential treatment. Right. Like you never get preferential treatment and you're completely, uh, distant from the. team. And when I saw that, this is no knock on in Dominic and Sue. I love him as a person, even as a player. But he was able to get that access and he took advantage of it. That let me know the level of success that was not going to be obtained with that team. And Rogers and Farve never got that in Green Bay? No, no, no. I mean like Farve didn't get an extra pancake at breakfast

or something like that? At the team? I mean, I mean, no, no, Brett, he did at the end of his extent. He was, he had his locker in the locker room, but he had kind of an office in the back. And it was, it was different, but it was, it was, it was Brett. It was, it wasn't, it wasn't as though he wasn't a team guy. Like, he was approachable. He cracked jokes. He made, I mean, there was a sense of camaraderie, even with that, even though he had his own space. I think it was just more of a, you know, I'm so much older than everybody in this locker room. The ability to connect and with everyone just wasn't there. As we see, like with Tom Brady, he goes almost out of his way to make sure that he connects

with everyone regardless of status. Yeah. All right, buddy, congrats on being inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame next year. Happy for you. You're one of the good guys. I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. Thanks so much.

All right. Yeah. That's interesting. I get far. By the way, when I covered Michael George. He had an extra in Orlando. Michael Jordan was so big. I covered a Bulls Orlando Magic Playoff series.

So you went to the Bulls locker room, and then they had a separate locker room just for the Michael. Michael had his own locker room next to the Bull locker room. And they were a road team. Orlando had to set up a separate locker room for Michael. For the media to fit in? For Michael, probably shoe execs media. Michael, you couldn't fit. Now, this was 20 years ago, but you could, Michael was.

It's hard to tell you how big Michael was. Michael Jordan was so big, much bigger than LeBron is as an iconic figure. Like, and I don't know why that is, but Michael Jordan was so big that I can remember when Michael Jordan, even at the end of his career, would come into your town. It wouldn't lead sports. It would lead the news. Michael Jordan's in town. I have a theory on that.

Why? What is that? Well, I think that, because, you know, you watch any of these documentaries, Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Michael Jordan, they were bigger than life because you didn't have Instagram and Clubhouse and Facebook and Twitter and Snapchat and all these things, all these things that made you feel like

you had access to people. So you would only see them on television and you had to be in front of your television when they were on. There was no like recording. There's no streaming. So they were like demigods. Like they were bigger than anything you could ever imagine in life.

Like it was that big. I have walked by a restaurant and seen LeBron and he's not being bothered. That's not the way it worked with Michael Jordan. He could not go to a restaurant. Yeah. And it's not that stars today don't have the star power, but there's also more ways to be famous now. You have the internet.

You have YouTube, like TikTok. There's so many different ways to be famous. You had to like be discovered and like explode and have this opportunity. And like you could only be famous if you were on TV. Yeah, no, that's, and you, by the way, so you got less of the star. So when he was available, it was like an event. Yeah. Those 41 bull home games were like an...

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Joy Taylor with the news. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Oh, the Dodgers found themselves down 3-1 in their series to the Braves after losing last night. Game 4, 9 to 2. But a big concern for L.A.

And their chance to come back is the loss of Justin Turner. He strained his hamstring running into first in the seventh inning. And after the game, Dave Roberts said it's like it's unlikely for Turner to return this season. Well, Trey Turner's not hitting. Justin Turner wasn't hitting and got hurt. You watched that game last night and you're like, they're just not getting enough hits. Atlanta's much more active. They're creating, you know, a lot.

They didn't really have a lot of energy. No. And it was funny. We were talking about this. I went into the night I was going to watch baseball. And I'm not really loyal to a sport. I'm loyal to energy. And the Celtics Nix got on and it was crazy on my television.

It was just punching me in the head. And baseball, just the energy in the stadium, the energy for the Dodgers. They fell behind. They kept giving up solo home run, solo home run. And you kind of felt like this is fitting. It's been a season of injuries. They don't have any juice tonight. They can't get consistent hitting.

But you didn't feel that way in game three. Well, I did. No, I did until the eighth inning. Oh, I didn't. Yeah. I felt when they were down to Atlanta and Charlie Morton's role and I was like, yeah, season over. Oh, no, I don't know. I kind of, I didn't feel like it was going to end that way in game three. But I'm with you. The energy was down. It's one of the conversation with Joel yesterday about fans leaving games. Like, you and I are kind of elitist, so it's fine. But like, what's entertaining me?

Oh, last night, a wildly entertaining double overtime NBA game jumped through my television. And the baseball game did not. There was just no juice. and all their best hitters. I mean, Bellinger had a good series, but it's just one of these things. The season's been all full of ups and downs and injuries from Kershaw. Now it's Turner. You've had Sompbellinger, Moki Betts.

Sometimes you have great talent, but it doesn't line up. Well, in the AL, the Astros have the Red Sox on the brink of elimination. Valda's pitched eight innings and was perfect through four. In the Astros, nine win last night, 9-1 win last night and helps up the clinching game when the series moves back to Houston on Friday. So Braves Dodgers game five is tonight at 8 Eastern, and Astros Red Sox Game 6 is tomorrow on FS1, and coverage begins at 70s. By the way, there's a lot of people are saying that there's another controversy with Houston that somebody is whistling, tipping players,

Astro players off to pitches, and there is some proof that before a couple of big pitches, there was, you know, you could hear whistling, the batter could hear whistling coming from somewhere, tipping him off, hey, it's a fastball. I'm just saying, it was out there. It was all over Boston radio. Well, look, when you cheat, that's how it goes, you know? You're going to miss me with a sympathy. If you're cheating a partner, your home late five minutes.

She's at the door waiting for you. That's how it goes. You've got to be perfect. That's right. So the 49ers have announced who the starting quarterback will be for Sundays haven't announced who will be the starting quarterback for Sunday's game against the Colts. But Jimmy Garoppolo is likely on track to get the nod. He missed their last game with the calf injury. But he's had extra time.

Thanks to their bye week. And Kyle Shanahan said yesterday he's pretty optimistic that Jimmy G will be good to return. Garoppolo also said that the calf is feeling good. Trey Lance will likely not be able to play Sunday because he is recovering from a knee sprain. Injuries have just been the story for the 49ers for the past two years. Also, they've been the injury for the Colts and they just lost their second year safety yesterday. So I went from really liking the Colts in this game to Garapolo playing and really liking the 49ers. So, God, the Colts cannot get a break.

Cannot get it right. Not get it right. And neither can the 49ers. And we're also starting to reach that point this season where a lot of teams are dealing with injuries. Obviously, tonight's game is basically a story of injuries. So it's a very obvious thing to say. But now that they've added this extra game, even though we have some teams that have separated from the rest of the league and how they're playing, I really believe that it's going to come down to who is the healthiest.

like that's it's just going to be rough towards the end of this season especially with this extra game. So during Nick Sabin's press conference on Wednesday, one reporter on Zoom was holding his baby while he was asking a question. I always love these nice human moments from guys like Sabin and Belichick. Let's see that. And Sabin had a little fun with him while he was giving him his answer. Well, I have a question for you, first of all. I mean, did I finally get to meet the boss? I apologize.

my wife is not home yet, so I'm having to pull dad duty. Well, this is the best behavior I've seen you on since I've been here. Obviously. No, you don't have to apologize. I mean, if this is the way it's going to be, I'd like for him to be there all the time. The reporter is Aaron Suttles. He's an Alabama beat writer for the athletic, but really a cute little moment. Isn't amazing that how Sabin has endured?

I mean, we grew up with the Mac Brown. Round Dynasty and the Urban in Florida and Pete Carroll at USC and and you know urban Ohio State almost got it going in terms of national championships they couldn't get as many but they are as good today he has lost eight offensive coordinators a million players in the first round there's not even a second place when you like when you ask the best college football coach ever there is no second place or Nick has won and then you could just have it's almost like in hockey There's Gretzky and then a different category for everybody else that was great, including the Bobby Holes and the whoever gordy hows. They, like Nick, if you go look at Urban Mac Brown and Pete Carroll and Bobby Bowden, once they lost a great coordinator or two, it just unraveled.

Nick not only has Nick lost offensive coordinators, he's lost guys that have gone on to be successful head coaches. Yeah. And they just this year, now I don't know. I mean, Alabama's offense and Georgia's defense, if you combine them would be the greatest college team, because George's defense is insane. I don't know if they can beat them, but I'm just, it is remarkable that Nick just keep, I mean, Belichick lost a quarterback. It's not the same. Nick has lost 75 first round guys, eight offensive coordinators, five defensive coordinators. They're still dominant.

He's just brilliant. But you also have to give him credit. he, for being, you know, the Sabin like, and that's why we did this because he's usually very short and he has his style and he's like tough, he's made adjustments as he's gotten older and as the game has changed. And sometimes coaches get into this space where they have their system and it's been successful for them. They do things their way and they don't adjust. And then the game moves past them and that that's what keeps them from being on the level that Saban is. You know, he's also legendary from all my coaching buddies.

Saban is so good to the players and so hard on his coaches. And he's obviously a brilliant recruiter. Yeah. And I think, you know, the other thing, I think he likes it. Like a lot of coach, Chip Kelly is a really good coach. I don't think Chip loves recruiting, I've been told. It's not his thing. He didn't hate it, but he doesn't love it.

Nick really enjoys the architecture of fine talent, develop talent, groomed talent. play town. The whole process for him, it's like Brady. Brady loves practice. Sabin loves the nuts and bolts of the sport. And you can tell because players go to Alabama and they get better. And a lot of people recruit and players don't get better. His players always get better. So you can tell he loves the entire process of what he does. Yeah. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Yeah, we are. You know, by the way, there's two great jobs now available. LSU's got a job opening and USC has a job opening.

And we got into this discussion yesterday. I thought it was fascinating. What's the better job? So my initial inclination was LSU because the school is unbelievably demanding, but they'll pay anything for assistance. They are very impatient and very demanding, but I like my bosses to expect me to be good, right? USC will give you an extra two or three years. They want you to win, but they're not going to pay quite as much for a staff.

And so, but Joel Clatt did bring up a very good point is, let's be honest about it. Tom Brady doesn't have nearly as many Super Bowls if he was in the same division as Peyton Manning, which he was when he broke into the league, is that it did help the jet, solfins, and bills couldn't get their act together. There are so many good coaches down the SEC. I mean, Dan Mullen, and Dan Mullen's only good, he's at a powerhouse. Jimbo Fisher's good. He's at a recruiting juggernaut. The kid at Georgia.

Kirby Smart is not only a good coach. Oh, he's at Georgia. There is a lot. You could really do a great job at LSU and win nine or ten games and do a great job. I don't think you can do a great job. You have to do the best job at LSU. Whereas at USC,

you can literally never lead the state for a recruit. And there's only, only really truly, Oregon is financially committed in the entire conference as USC is. Oregon with Phil Knight, they're all in. I think it depends on what kind of lifestyle you want. Well, I would rather live in the beach, near the beach. Well, not necessarily like where you're living, but like what the expectations are going to be. Because you want to win, obviously, and you are going to be expected to win at USC.

Well, the SEC is much more intense than the PAC 12. So if you can handle the intensity, just that wave of, I mean, literally off season, you're getting ripped because you lost a four-star cornerback. You can hide as a USC football coach. I can remember bumping in the lane kiff and into hotel. He's got glasses and a hat and nobody bothered him. You are, you cannot escape. Yeah, you're going to be king.

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