The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Carson Palmer stops by The Herd

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

Colin talks to 3-time Pro Bowl quarterback Carson Palmer about his time playing for Carroll at USC and why he expects him to have success with the RaidersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inform...ation.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 His son's the quarterback, and he is joining us now live right now, Carson Palmer, in his office right now, around the clock. So you were at USC. And then all of a sudden, your first coach, Paul Hackett doesn't work. Here comes Pete Carroll. So you're a young guy. That Raider roster has got a lot of young guys. What was your first impression of Pete Carroll?
Starting point is 00:03:11 You had a great year. I mean, Pete kind of took you to new heights. But give me your first impressions of Pete and what really resonated with you? Just the energy he brought to the program. You know, there was such a vision. that was laid out in front of us from the jump and it there was a clear vision uh... he knew what he wanted he knew what he expected we knew as players what to expect from him and what he expected from us
Starting point is 00:03:40 uh... which is just the day what you want you know when when you're the raiders you just want some stability has been uh... very unstable environment for a very long time and he instantly gives you that stability that that pro that that organization needs and when you're coaching in high school school. And you've had good coaches. There's been a lot of guys, Bruce Ariens, Pete Carroll, what is the one thing you will take from Pete as a coach, the one discipline, the one
Starting point is 00:04:09 culture center that you'll take from Pete? There's not. There's not one thing. I had a chance to spend five or six hours meeting with Pete before I took this coaching job at Santa Margarita High School. And I took 12 things. I still am texting. I'm asking them, you know, certain things, how to run this, how to do this. So he's not a one thing guy. He doesn't do one thing well. He brings tremendous energy. He's super mature. He's got success, so he's got credibility. But the things that I look that I'm hanging my hat on are, you know, there were simple rules, but Pete isn't, you know, a ton of rules, you know, super disciplinarian. You know, there's a handful of rules. they all make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:04:58 They're really easy to follow. And if you can't follow those rules, then you probably shouldn't be on his team or really any team. But there's not one thing that when I think back about my experience playing with him, I learned how to be a leader. I learned how important it is to focus on the ball and how important it is to go get the ball on defense.
Starting point is 00:05:18 He always talked about that, securing it, never giving it away and attacking it on defense. He talked about respect, respect for your time. team, respect for the officials, respect for your opponent. He's the greatest coach that I ever had the chance to play for. He's a future Hall of Famer. He's everything you want in the coach and the Raiders organization. This is an exciting day, obviously.
Starting point is 00:05:43 For the future, you know, I know it's a three-year deal, maybe a four-year deal, but he's just, he gives you instant credibility, stability, maturity, and he's been there and done that. And what he did in Seattle was amazing. going from the Matt Hasselbeck, Sean Alexander, creating the Legion of Boom, developing the Legion of Boom, being there long enough to see those guys leave and move on,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and then still getting the playoffs with Russell Wilson at quarterback and Beast Mode in the backfield and really reinventing that team after the Legion of Boom, to bringing along Gino Smith. I mean, I don't think he gets the credit he deserves for the success and the stability that he brought to Seattle. You played in a conference championship game, NFC championship game.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Go back to that moment. Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hertz now been in a couple. Mahomes been in a lot. Josh Allen's experience, Jaden Daniels, this is his first. That was your first. You tell me, anxious. Did you worry about being so amped up?
Starting point is 00:06:51 That can affect sort of, you know, your mechanics, go back to your NFC championship game. What was it like? Yeah, James got nothing to lose. I mean, he's playing with house money, all the pressures on Philly. He's got all the hype. Everybody's going to be focused on him. Obviously, that entire defense, that entire stadium, the energy is going to be electric.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But, man, he's out there playing as a rookie thinking, I've got a whole career ahead of me to get back here. I'm just going to let it loose, cut it loose. And that's the one thing when you watch him play, he doesn't really, really, he doesn't play within a mold. He plays outside the system a lot, which is really unique, and a lot of guys don't have success doing that. He is just playing with so much natural instinct. And his first, one of his best attributes and one of the things he's looking to do first is take off and run with the ball. He's such a good runner with the ball. And it's not because he's a four-four guy. It's because he has the ability to get down and cut and change direction and make
Starting point is 00:07:48 people miss. So I think in his mind right now, he cannot wait for this game. He knows all the pressures on Philly. They're at home. They've been there. They're expected to continue to play through this game and into the Super Bowl. And he's playing with, you know, a young team, a first year head coach hit in his first year as a quarterback. I think he is excited. I think he's going to let it loose and have an amazing game and possibly knock off Philly and head to the Super Bowl as a rookie and be the first to ever do it. You had a year in Arizona. It's still the best. year quarterback's ever had there. You threw for 4,600 yards, 35 touchdowns. In the history of the Chicago Bears, they've never had a quarterback equal the one year,
Starting point is 00:08:30 your greatest year, it's the greatest year Arizona's ever had for a quarterback in a season. You also, I think you were the first quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards for three different teams. So you had success in multiple places. All that said, Chicago has struggled with quarterback. They've never had a 4,000-yard quarterback. They've never had 30 touchdown passes. You did it all sorts of teams. So obviously that's a lot of you because you did it with different people.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Maybe some of it is the weather. Maybe some of it is. It's always had a defensive culture. But there is something to unlock here. You know Caleb Williams pretty well as a former USC guy. How does Ben Johnson, this is a defensive culture. It really is. You think bears.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You think defense. If you were taking over Caleb Williams in Chicago, cold weather, rough-out door games. Are there any secrets to getting over the hump for a historic franchise that can't get over the hump at that position? Yeah, I mean, a historic
Starting point is 00:09:29 franchise that hasn't had success at that position, but they've never had the athlete or the player and the competitor that Caleb is at that position. So it's a first time that that organization has had somebody like him. You combine him with what, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:45 you watch Jared Gough do, who Jared Goff is an incredible player but not the athlete that Caleb is. So when I first heard that Coach Johnson was getting the job, Caleb's got the blueprint. He can sit there and watch hours and hours of film of watching Caleb,
Starting point is 00:10:01 or I'm sorry, watching Jared Goff run that system. And then you combine the addition of all the attributes that Caleb has that Jared doesn't have within his repertoire. I think the sky's the limit. I think Ben is phenomenal, what he's done. He's coming up with concepts that people have not seen or run in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:10:20 There's some things he's doing against manned defense in the play action game. They're route combinations that I just haven't seen before, which is really rare. A lot of stuff in the NFL gets recycled and then it trickles down through college football. But Ben is an innovator. He's coming up with new stuff. And like I said, Chicago's got a quarterback and an athlete back there that they've never seen run out on that field in their uniform and their helmet. So I think it's a perfect combination. And I think the blueprint is right there for Caleb.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's so nice when you get a new head coach that comes in and you can watch that system on film and study that playbook and study the cut-ups that he's going to be studying of Detroit and Jared Gough doing it. And I just think that's going to energize Caleb. Caleb's going to go, man. Yeah. Carson Palmer. So you've been coaching now a month. He's coaching a son at a very storied high school program in Southern California. harder than you thought, easier?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Can you give us an update on your coaching? Oh, we lost them. We lost Carson Palmer. Well, I appreciate it. A little breakdown in connectivity. It's the world we live in. Good stuff. Carson Palmer, 15 years, three-time Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 00:11:30 He didn't play us for our first year. John Kitton, I think, was ahead of him for a while. But I think what Jaden Daniels doing is all-time stuff. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
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Starting point is 00:15:24 It happened about an hour ago. Bobby Sloick, fired as offensive coordinator after two seasons with the team. Now, listen, obviously this season, there were major issues with some of his play calling. he just loved a good Joe Mixen run into the line of scrimmage to start almost every first down. Texas fans were irate about this. I guess the big picture you look at it, he was hopefully setting stuff up with the early down runs. But they made the playoffs each of Stroud's first two years. This year the offensive line injuries were decimated the team.
Starting point is 00:15:52 The receivers went down, and they still made the playoffs and so won a game in the playoffs. And they won a game. They blew out the chargers and outside of special teams outplayed the chief. Chiefs. Okay. Chiefs had 200 yards offense. Yeah, no, no, the defense was great. Albert Breer has shed some light on this saying,
Starting point is 00:16:13 and this is all you need to know, C.J. Stroud was frustrated with his offensive coordinator. Okay. If C.J. Stroud, whatever he wants, you know, he gets. Well, that's the NFL. Yeah, I mean, a young quarterback gets frustrated. You're not going to fire the quarterback. My only thing is, like,
Starting point is 00:16:29 I don't know how easy this is going to be to totally pivot to a new offensive coordinator, new system. We know Diggs ain't coming back, right? He's going to go elsewhere. They got to improve that offensive line. There's a good job, though, for an O.C., right? You get to work for C.J. Stroud? They got Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I don't know if Diggs is going to stick around. Diggs wants big money, man. Well, they got Nico Collins, Taint Dane. They got a good left tackle. Bolton Schultz, solid. Joe Nixon good. Yeah, I mean, they got real weapons. And it's a wonky division.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think it's a very good job. You want a hot take? What? Hot take. Let me save it for headlots. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'll tease it. I don't think they win the division next year.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Do you think Jacksonville does? No comment. We'll talk about it. I think Sam Darnold is going to the Indianapolis Colts. Wait, is that news I don't know? No, that's your guess. Okay, okay. No, I'm saying Sam Darnard.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I mean, I had a pretty good prediction here. You guys may want to just take my work for everything. Sam Darnold to the Indianapolis Colts. Don't hate it. Kirk Cousins to the Raiders. It's not sourced. No, it's just. Prediction.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Ruminating upstairs. Yeah. Cowherds going on the IR. He just hurt himself patting himself on the back. So he's got a shoulder injury. Next up is Jared Goff. Hey, listen, man, he had a tough matchup against a bad Washington defense. Three red zone turnovers, two picks, and a fumble. It was ugly. But he had a good run under Ben Johnson overall. Now with his O.C. in Chicago, some believe Goff may not have the same successes in the past. GM Brad Holmes of the Lions feels otherwise.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Obviously, he was very productive with Ben, you know, as a coordinator, but he had a lot of prior success before even got here as well in a completely different system. And I think he's a better quarterback and more mature quarterback now than he was then when he had early success. So I don't foresee that again. I think the guys in his prime has gotten better and better every year. And when I say prom, I think like just entering it. because he keeps ascending. Yeah. Brad Holmes is sound smart.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He built an amazing roster in Detroit. But you're not going to duplicate Ben Johnson. Is the next coordinator good enough to coach the Chicago Bears? No. So you're not going to get Ben Johnson. You're going to go down. We don't know. Who was Ben Johnson four years ago?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Like, these guys can come out of nowhere. Ben Johnson's younger than me. Ben Johnson four years ago wasn't as good as Ben Johnson today. Also facts. You're not going to, you're going to just down. You can just mark that and you're going to downgrade it. By the way, I'm hearing troubling things on the jet staff. Do not like the staff the jets are compiling.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I'm just going to tell you that right now. After the weekend, I don't like what I'm hearing. I'm going to go, no comment two consecutive stories. Don't like it. Let's just be, you are being positive on them earlier this week. Now you're just. No, when you get new information, new spin. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:29 This is the new spin zone. So we save some time for this last story, which is freaking incredible. What? Okay, the transfer portal, we know it's popping off. How about this? There is a report out there from one of these recruiting websites that Jeremiah Smith, the best receiver in college football, was a true freshman, unguardable, has a $4.5 million offer to enter the portal. He just won a national championship with Ohio State. He's coming back. We don't know who their quarterback is going to be. Colin, USA Today is speculating. Miami is the team pushing for him. They just landed Carson Beck in the portal a few weeks ago, and Jeremiah Smith grew up in the Miami area, won three straight titles. They spent three state titles. And Jeremiah Smith leaving the Buckeyes. They're spending more money to hurricanes than the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Seriously, their pay roll may be higher than the Bengals. This is spicy because Smith's numbers were unbelievable. He's probably the best receiver in college football since Randy Moss. And Amika Igbuka, a very good reason. receiver is declaring for the NFL draft. So Ohio State could lose their top two receivers and both their running
Starting point is 00:20:42 backs. Let me just, so do you remember when LeBron started teaming up with his friends and forming amazing super teams in the NBA? Yes. What's stopping the transfer portal from super teams forming in college football? Well, you have limitations on what most colleges can pay. Oh, not necessarily. Four and a half million
Starting point is 00:20:58 for Jeremiah Smith. That feels low. I would pay him more than 99% of quarterbacks in college football. Would you not? No. Jeremiah Smith? He's going to touch the ball seven times a game. Not with a smart. Colin, if you're Texas and you hear this and you've got Archmanning
Starting point is 00:21:13 and you lost Golden and everybody, why aren't you say, hey, Jeremiah, here's 5 mil. Texas has really good receivers. They're probably paying $300,000 to. They're not Jeremiah Smith. Well, he's a wide receiver. By the way, teams are getting better. Buffalo got better without Stefan Diggs.
Starting point is 00:21:31 No, that's the NFL. Timeout. That's the NFL. an ego-driven guy and the divas. Jeremiah Smith has no diva in him. A year ago, Michigan won the Natty, and their weakness probably was wide receiver. Okay, Ohio State just won the Natty
Starting point is 00:21:45 because they have the best offense. Now, if you're Oregon, do you come to the table? Hey, here's six million, Jeremiah Smith. Phil Knight, open in the bankroll. I think Oregon has to get a little bigger in a couple of spots. I think they're plenty fast. Oregon doesn't have a speed problem.
Starting point is 00:22:00 This is amazing. You've got better up front defensively. They'll be tough. So Jeremiah Smith's probably going to Ohio State. Hey, yesterday's price, it's not today's price. Oh, boy. I need more. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Are you backing off if you don't want these guys getting paid? I want them getting paid. I'm not paying $6 million for- You're not. It's Joey bag of donuts over here with $75 billion in the bank. I want my team to compete for the championship. I'm not paying a college-wide receiver. You know what?
Starting point is 00:22:27 You like Flash. You're a convertible guy. You're a gun show at the beach guy. I'm a Mason. I'm out here with masonry and a hammer. Coastally league coward. I'm building a roof for the impoverished. I'm a lunch pail guy.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You're a convertible Maserati. You like receivers. I like centers. That's where I'm spending my money. My NIL is going to the big boys up front. Convertible with the tank top? Is that common mind-blowing? Six million for a college receiver.
Starting point is 00:22:57 No, no. It's not a college receiver. It's Jeremiah Smith. You do realize Ohio State. He works at Ohio State because of, Ryan Day and Chip Kelly and Will Howard and great running backs. Oh, so now Jeremiah says, he's not working elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Oh, my gosh. It is hot take happy out. You put him it over at Syracuse, and I double team him. By the way, Texas took him out of the game. And they still won in coverage. Yeah, but they took him out of the game at $6 million. You can't get taken out of the game. You can't take a quarterback out of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You can take a receiver out of a game. Roll coverage over. Six million bucks. You got to play a position. I can't. I can't take a quarterback out of a game. Okay, so just hypothetically, you're Ohio State, and I'm Jeremiah Smith and I say, hey, Miami's got four to half for me.
Starting point is 00:23:41 What do you guys say? Are you saying thank you for the title? We'll see you. I'll say, I'll throw in a Kia. I'll give you a company car. A Kia? I'll lease a car and four-mobile. He's like, you can lease that for my cousin.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I have. What are you going to give me? No, I got Brian Hartlines, my receiving coach. Okay. We've got four other five-star guys coming to us. Good luck. All right. Ohio State fans. Just know, Cowher said, buy to Jeremiah Smith.
Starting point is 00:24:06 No, that's what I'm saying. If there's any position in college football for any program, I'm not worried about, it's receiver at Ohio State. Who are the two most marketable players returning to college football? Arch Manning is one because of his last name and Jeremiah Smith. One plays quarterback. Oh, my gosh. This is a good.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Ohio State literally gets three five star receivers a year and four other four stars. Why would I pay? I'm just going to be like, hey, you were great. You want us a nanny. Some guys hit the exits and you thank them when Manny Ramirez left the Red Sox. Thank you for getting us a trophy. I don't need nine more years of Manny Ramirez. You got us what we needed.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I don't know, man. By the way, I mean, it's like Garrett Wilson. Gerville. Alave. Marvin Harrison, Jeremiah Smith, the Seahawks kid in Jigb. YSN, yeah. Every year they got two first round. guy. Okay. All right. You let him go to Miami.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'll put, I'm, I'm, when is our next to Texas? Getting, getting a wide receiver to stay at Ohio State is like you having another tank top for the beach. You've already got a closet full. What's it matter? Jeez, I hope this is not how my negotiation's going to go. Because this does not sound promising at all.
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Starting point is 00:30:12 One of the questions is, which team will score the most points on Sunday, Colin? Who you got? Bills at Casey, commanders at Philly, Eagles or Chiefs? I'm going to go Eagles. The weather's not going to be an issue. It'll be cold. But they'll leave some points on the field. That's Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You always feel like they could give you more, but I'll take them. All right, here we go. Well, well, well. Three games left in the football season. Two games this weekend. College not for a while. You've had a very good season. So I went three and O last weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I've taken the bills this week, Philly and the over. in the Commander's Eagles games. So let's start. Tomorrow's headlines today. Commander's Eagles, what's the headline for the NFC championship? You know, Washington comes in that one of the hottest teams in the league, like, who's beating them? Right? They're just on fire with Jane Daniels' fourth down historically great.
Starting point is 00:31:17 The headline will be claw-abiding citizen. Eagles object to Washington's commands. By the way, great movie Law Abiding Citizen. I don't know if you've seen it. I'm on the Eagles here. Listen, I think a teaser bringing them from six down to pick them makes a lot of sense. But ultimately, Washington, fourth straight road game. You know the teams historically who play in a four straight road game?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Oh, and seven straight up. It's tough. You just wear down a lot of travel. One thing defensively and schematically, I'm curious. So Tampa Bay and Detroit played a lot of man-to-man against Jayden Daniels, turning your back and let Daniels run. Philly plays a lot of zone, and they mix them. up the blitzes. I think
Starting point is 00:31:56 Daniels could struggle here, and I'm kind of with you. I smell the potential for a Philly blowout. I will add, I did bet Jaden Daniels under 55 rushing yards. 55 yards is a ton for a quarterback. And he also does a lot of eight-yard runs. He doesn't do a lot of 30-40-yard runs, usually.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, he picks up a first down. And by the way, I think the Eagles are going to be ready round three for fourth and three. Jane Daniels'Reid Option Keeper. You know, they're going to be ready for that. For some reason, Detroit was not coming off the buy. Ultimately, whoever wins the turnover battle wins, Colin, Washington won the turnover battle 5-0 last week. Do you think the Eagles are going to turn the ball over five times, even
Starting point is 00:32:34 three? Like, unless Jalen Hurts vomits all over himself, I don't see that happening. I'll take the Eagles to win semi-comfortably. Same here. Tomorrow's headlines today. Bill's Chiefs won potentially for the ages. Yeah, you know, you remember Brady and Belichick and the Patriots, betting against them was just stupid. They would just win every important game, right? Starting to feel like that with the Chiefs, kind of sort of. The headline. Will.
Starting point is 00:33:02 B. Take a chill, Bill. Swiftie's super sweet, swallowed hole. Gary the Buffalo Bills. Going into Arrowhead Coward, I'm fired up about this game. I know all the numbers on Mahomes is a small underdog. He's unbeatable. Andy Reid. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I think the bills can pull this off. I genuinely do. It's going to have to be a Josh Allen game. I'm only over here. I think there's going to be a lot of points like you. And this feels like a three-point game either way. You know, it's going to come down to whoever has the ball last, and hopefully it's Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Now, the one injury concern is Taylor Rap, the safety, hasn't practiced yet. He has a history of injuries. Yeah, it sounds like he's not going to go. Now, the question is who fills in his spot. There is the kid, Elam out of Florida, who was a first-round pick. He's kind of been a disappointment. He might have to shift into a cornerback spot and you move somebody to safety.
Starting point is 00:33:47 This could be a big Mahomes game. You know, he didn't do much last week against Houston. He didn't do anything. It was Travis Kelsey and Nothingburg. Well, we know, you know, playoff Kelsey is a real thing. You know, playoff Jimmy Butler, that's a thing. Playoff Kelsey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I mean, he's unstoppable. I will point out to people who want to say, well, the bill's offense didn't do anything last week. In the win over Kansas City in the regular season, no Kincaid, no Coleman, and they were down their right tackle. And they still move the ball pretty much with ease. I don't know, man. I smell a bit of a shootout. I know a lot of people are looking at the under. The total's 47 and a half.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I don't get that. These are two good offenses. A quick reminder. The teams that are here have not turned the ball over yet in the postseason. They're playing error-free football. Somebody's got a break. I saw a stat from, I think Dan Orlovsky had it. The Buffalo Bills have an NFL record 12 games this season without a turnover.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Now, the Chiefs have gone eight straight without a turnover. Something's got to give, right? These guys can't continue to play perfect games. I'll go Bills. I love the Bills in a teaser leg up through the key numbers of three of seven to seven and a half. That's my best bet is it. Eagles, Bill's teaser. Go Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Tomorrow's headlines today. How about some tasty luck? What's the headline for the Bears next season with our new coach, Ben Johnson? We're getting a little speculative. Ben Johnson's a hot name. Can he build a culture? That's a big question. The headline in Chicago will be.
Starting point is 00:35:10 It's Ben Too Long. Chicago playoff hibernation finally over. Yeah, I think they make the leap. Listen, this was a really good team for stretches early. And then Iber Flus really coached him. out of a lot of games. They kept blowing stuff late. The Hail Mary to Washington. They never recovered from that. They never did.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But roster-wise, if you look at this division, I think they stack up pretty evenly. I think they've got some really interesting players at key spots. Yeah. And now the question is, can Ben Johnson build like a tough staff? Can Caleb, how quickly will he adapt to Ben Johnson? I think there's some real positives
Starting point is 00:35:44 to take away here. And frankly, like you said, Dallas is cratering in the NFC. The NFC South once again is just like one team's going to get in. I don't know what to do with like the Arizona's and Seattle's of the world. I think Chicago has a legitimate case to make the playoffs this year with Ben
Starting point is 00:36:00 Johnson and Caleb Williams. Tomorrow's headlines today. Wild 48 hours for Liam Cohen who leaves Tampa for Jacksonville. What's going to be the headline? I get a sense you don't love this as much as I do. I think this is fascinating. She has to coach Trevor Lawrence. The headline
Starting point is 00:36:15 in Jacksonville will be Cohen back on his word. Liam turnaround turns Jags around. Look at that. Trevor Lawrence in the back seat. Driving Miss Daisy? Good stuff. Listen, that division is right for the tech. It's wide open. Remember, the Texans like, hey, anybody, does anyone want this? They couldn't, nobody could take it last year. I just go back to this Jags team. Trevor Lawrence, they got some weapons. I like ETN. I mean, you know, the wide receivers are solid. Young kid Brian Thomas looks like a major keeper. They just got to figure out
Starting point is 00:36:45 the defense and Liam Cohen's smart play calling. Remember, there was supposed to be a big drop off for Baker Mayfield when they lost Dave Canales, the O.C. He went to Carolina. There was no drop-off. Baker was outstanding. One of the best quarterbacks in the NFC. I think Trevor Lawrence can turn around. I think it's a huge loss in Tampa. I think Jacksonville's a 10-win team next year. Put me down for the playoffs for Trevor Lawrence. I don't think that's crazy. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today. What are we going to do with the train wreck known as the Dallas Cowboys going forward? They still, I don't even know if they have a coach on the radar right now. It's bad. It's bad. I will say we've got some genius headline writers here.
Starting point is 00:37:24 This has to be. I don't want to overpromise and under-delivered. This is a top three in my history doing this for like six years. The headline in Dallas will be shot through the heart. And Jerry's to blame. You give Dallas a bad name. Colin. That's as good as it gets.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And I think we're starting to see shift over to, hey, Jerry, you had a good run. You got to let someone else be GM. This has been disaster after disaster for a few years now. I'll go back to the Dak Prescott contract, the way he bungled McCarthy. Colin, it's all not good. Now, I wonder how do you navigate that? Because Jerry is getting all the blame. Turn on Dallas radio?
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's brutal. Look on the Dallas media. Everybody's pinning this on Jerry. He did not have an alternative game plan when McCarthy said, no. We know Dion was a pipe dream. That was never happening. And now it's Brian Schopenheimer? Like, I mean, it's so bad that Mike.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Michael Parsons has not gone on his podcast to chime in yet. Like, he doesn't know what to say. I don't, if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, this is DefCon 1 right now. No, no, no. This is, we're not trying to be hyperbolic here. This is a disaster. Folks, when you don't, when you're the last team to hire a coach, because there's always six or seven openings, you get the bottom end of the coordinators.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And Jerry doesn't pay his coaches a lot anyway. He's not like, I mean, certain organizations will pay coordinators. and there are certain organizations that will not. Jerry doesn't pay coordinators big money or coaches big money. It looks like Washington and Philadelphia are going to dominate that division for at least the next few years. Those are great historic organizations. I'm fine with it. This is bad.
Starting point is 00:39:07 If this keeps up, you know, the NFL gives out primetime games to the great teams. I don't know that Dallas is going to be a big Sunday night team. I know that the ratings are good with Dallas, but this team probably by Halloween is going to be like already thinking to 26. I can't even believe it. I mean, if LeBron never goes to the Lakers, never shows up, what are they? People forget. They were like a 20-win team when LeBron got there.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Kobe's last five years, I may be wrong. I think they were like one of the bottom three. They were. It was bad. Winning percentages in the league. They were lost. Pete Carroll's the new coach of the Raiders. His college coach, Carson Palmer, had Pete.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And he won a Heisman with him. Carson Palmer had Pete Carroll in college, and he talked about what Pete right from the start will bring to the Raiders. He's the greatest coach that I ever had the chance to play for. He's a future Hall of Famer. He's everything you want in a coach and the Raiders organization. This is an exciting day, obviously. For the future, you know, I know it's a three-year deal, maybe a four-year deal.
Starting point is 00:40:17 But he's just, he gives you instant credit. stability, stability, maturity. And he's been there and done that. Yeah. I think it's good hire. Little silver to the silver and black. I'm good with it. J. Mack, we had a fun week.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And two teams don't have a coach. It seems like McCarthy and the Saints is a marriage. Let me tell you, that is a good get by the Saints. It's a good get. I just, he's got an uphill line. I like all of these. Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, Aaron, Glenn, Mike Rable, Pete Carroll. If McCarthy takes the Saints, I think you have to go Robert Sala in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I don't think you have a choice. I don't want to wish that upon Robert Sala. Better to go to San Francisco, be the D.C., build things back up, and then get a good job. I am not hearing great things about the Jets, Aaron Glenn staff. All right. I'm just telling you. Let's just give it the weekend. What do you mean give it the weekend?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Let's just see what happens because the GM, I know there's one reporter saying a GM deal is done. others are saying that's not true a bit of a tug of war I'll try to be positive through the weekend Okay But there's some stuff going on with the jets I'm around tomorrow if you want to grab a beer And cry on my shoulder
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