The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - CFP Picks, Urban Meyer

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Colin and Jason make their picks for the College Football Playoffs. Former head coach Urban Meyer stops by to talk about the state of college football and the challenge facing Bill Belichick as he takes the North Carolina football head coaching job.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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then that. But Urban Meyer, Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, obviously, and Ohio State. So what a pleasure to have sports, kind of the voice of college football with Joel Clatt and others. So, Let's just, Nick Saban said this week, he goes, you Buckeye fans got to get therapy on Michigan. And I looked at it, Ohio State's 44 and 4 against everybody else in 0 and 4 against Michigan. Is it fair to say right now, and it's been reversed, Michigan's in the Buckeye's head a little bit? It's very fair. Obviously, it's happened in the last four years after a dominant run. And it's got to get, you know, it's got to get change.

And I hear people say that there's, too much emphasis on the game. And that's, you know, I grew up in right outside Cleveland, Ohio. It is the game. I grew up in the 10-year war with Bow and Woody. So that's the way it is at Ohio State, and it will never change. So when someone says they need to back off that game, I'm like, they don't have to back off off the game.

I'm just going to win that game. Yeah. Yeah, people say that when they lose it. When they win it, nobody says that. I think Oregon's the fastest team in college football. But in my life, I don't remember. a mediocre to below-average defensive team winning a natty. I think it comes down to, I love the Texas defense, the Buckeye defense,

Penn State's defense, Notre Dame's defense. I don't, and I love Oregon. And I said, Oregon's going to beat them. I said this before the season. They're going to beat Ohio State Adopsin. They're going to lose in a rematch. I just question Oregon's defense. They'll score, but I watch Penn State do it.

I watch Ohio State. I watch Boise State. What do you make of Oregon's defense? is a personnel issue? Well, I love their coordinator, Tasha LaPoy, was actually all my staff one time, and I think he's one of the great motivators. I love their defense aligned,

but you know what? They got exposed against Penn State. I'm actually going to talk on the Big Ten Network about that briefly, that the Q-run game exposed them. And Ohio State's not done a lot of the Q-run game. If I'm watching that, Chip Kelly and that staff watching what Penn State did with a non-dual threat player in Drew Aller,

they ripped them up and down the field a little bit with the Q run game and then Pribula came in. Explain the Q run game door. It's an equalizer. It's where you read a defender. It's a spread option. So you're going to read a defensive end and you put, you know, you equate judgments. And you equate numbers.

You can't load the box because you're always reading one defender. And they did that with Drew Aller. Jewelor, Will Howard's an excellent runner. So I would anticipate, I would see some of that. Going back to Oregon's defense, though, I got a little more confidence to Oregon's defense. You watch them in some of those. games. They have 10 sacks against Washington.

The defense aligned plays with great effort. I really admire their coordinator. I think they'll play better in this game against Ohio State. Listen, there are times as a college coach, even when you were at Florida or Ohio State, there are times as a college coach, you look across and say, listen,

they're going to be able to do this on us. Right? Like if you faced a banner Georgia, they're going to get a sack or two on us. They got NFL dudes. I look at Oregon's offense, and I'm like, you just, guys, we're going to give up some plays. How do you stop Oregon? Because they score on everybody.

Yeah, I got theory on that. And what happened is when you play a soft schedule like Ohio State's schedule was awful, the beginning first, the 50-point favorites, I think, in every game. And then what happens is during the course of practice, you go against something called a scout team. And here you are, the defensive backs, Ohio State. You're playing the

schedule they played, which was I mean, you didn't see any juice at all. All of a sudden you're lining up against Oregon, and that is the fastest group receivers. You know, them in Ohio State, those are the two best groups of receivers, and they were on them. I watched the game, and it looked like Ohio State was in Quicksend. Those are fast corners. They were shocked. Here's the good thing. I don't think they'll be shocked because they faced them. And I don't know if Coach Day has done this, but I made a comment earlier on this, too, that I would,

there would be no scout team. If I was getting ready to play Oregon, the corners are not going to go against a scout team receiver. You're going to go against Jeremiah and Mecca. You're going to be going against dudes the entire time because what happens, you get shocked. And the game is on you so fast if you're not prepared for the speed. They played them once, and I would anticipate in practice they're going against good on good to get ready for this game. So your entire career, I can go back to Alex Smith and Chris Leak into Tebow. I think we tend to, I'm guilty of this. We just think quarterbacks are the same every Saturday or Sunday. But the truth is, college kids, as they're growing, confidence is a big part. And I thought Will Howard,

lost it against Michigan. I just lost it. And then I watch him against Tennessee, and I'm like, okay, this is the kid that I thought could get drafted. What is Will Howard? I mean, I forget the NFL, but what do you like about Will Howard? Because if they do get into a shootout, which he did before,

tell me the things you see as a coach. I like everything about Will Howard. I like an athletic quarterback can get you out of trouble, which he does. He's had big scrambles and he makes plays with his legs as well. here's the best thing about Will Howard his surrounding cast one of the best I've ever seen on a

football field and the offense line I'm not including them I'm talking the offense's skill the offense line has three major injuries but you're looking at those two tailbacks you're looking at three maybe four receivers that are all high draft picks that's the best thing Will Howard's got going

is he's got to be a distributor and he does not have to be the game winner that's right and that's I've had quarterbacks that thrive in those kind of situations. When you have to go put it on your shoulders, you know, there's not many quarterbacks can do that. You know, I've said on this show before, it's hard to win a Super Bowl with a shaky O-line and you can't win a World Series of the bad bullpen. You can't, I think a bullpen, seventh, eighth and ninth inning, you're facing the best hitters in the

world. You've got to have closers. And O-lines, not when you're trailing, when you're leading, and you can't close the door. Ohio State's O-line to me is the weakness of the team. For the record, I think it's the weakness of Georgia. So I eliminate Georgia because they're on a backup. They can't win the Natty, in my opinion. Are you concerned that Ohio State, if they get into a great game against the great team, and they need an eight-minute drive, they don't have the offensive line to do it? I'm very concerned because I think you're right as we made it to the final game,

final two games when I was at Florida and Ohio State. And it is. It's a line of scrimmage game because a lot of time skill, negates itself. You know, you have great skill on both sides. So what's going to win? Can you get four yards, five yards of snap? And like you said, can you close out a game or get a first down when you need to? And that's all offensive line driven. I would say I'd be very alarmed. They played their best. They did against Penn State. They had a 10 or 12 play drive. Yep. Six-minute drive, started the one-yard line. That was the best offensive four-minute drill I may be ever seen. And then Seth McLaughlin, the center goes down. When I got that text, I almost fell out of the trail. Like, what happened? Because you lose your center at that point in the season, and they played not very well a couple games, but they played excellent against Tennessee. So I am concerned. I would be more concerned if they didn't have the best skill in America. I want to talk Notre Dame and Georgia.

So there's this sense for a long time because Brian Kelly won early, and then they go play a Natty against Baman and get rolled. But the last two times he played him, they went toe to toe at Georgia. I like them this game is that I think sometimes maybe it's because the academic, the austere Notre Dame view, that we don't think of Notre Dame as elite recruiters. We think of Ohio State. I think Notre Dame is more in the Michigan recruiting, but I think Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU,

it's a whole different ballgame. A whole different ballgame. Oregon's buying their guys. They're kind of in that space. But I think when I watch Notre Dame play, I'm like, they got a lot of dudes, and I think they match up with Georgia. I think in our mind we're like Georgia's got better players.

I'm not sure they do. I don't know. You're looking at me like I'm nuts. No, I agree with you. I think, imagine getting hit in the face by Northern Illinois and picking that team off the mat. You know, Marcus Freeman and his staff did that, and the leadership of that team did it. I counted them out. When I saw that, you know, Notre Dame's done.

How do you regroup from that kind of a loss they have, and I've studied them actually the last couple weeks at home? I just would watch the videota tape. I think they're toe-to-toe with Georgia. I agree with you, Georgia's offensive line is not the typical Kirby Smart. It's a weakness. Dominant offensive line. They're playing a backup quarterback. I think this is going to be, I think this is going to be whoever had this ball last is going to win this thing.

Yeah. I always used to think, you know, it's cold weather, small town, isolated, academics are hard. I think Marcus, I think Brian Kelly in the end when he was in his coaching prime, and I think Marcus has done a tremendous. If you meet Marcus, you can see why he's a good recruiter. Yeah. I think the sports a young man's game, and I think Marcus is one of those guys that he's putting in 17-hour days. He'll beat you on the recruiting. In the recruiting, I used to coach there for six years under Louisville.

Yes, I remember. I would always plan my recruiting visit around because I recruited the South for Notre Dame. And if you heard the two words, Lake Effect, do not bring a kid from the South. Don't do it. And then if you got caught, I would get those cars. You had real nice cars, and I would turn up to 90 degrees. We'd have a jacket in there for him. So recruiting at Notre Dame, but it's not, you know, that's old school.

Now it's just how much. I think recruiting is Notre Dame is a great education, but we're going to pay you this. Are you going to go? So I think it's a different world than it was. All right. I'm not a huge Quinn Ewers fan. He's probably a Sunday player, Archmanning. So, I mean, listen, we know this.

Joe Burrell was a Buckeye, then he's not. Like, here's the problem with college football now. In the NFL, you have a starter, and then you have a backup, and everybody gets it. In college, Ohio State has to have two five-star or four-star guys. You can't just not as a season expense. So you got Arch Manning and the royalty in America of the Manning name, and then you got Quinn Ewers. I think this is a harder balance than you think.

To have Arch Manning behind you, I would be like, you know, Peyton's coming to practice. What if Quinn Ewer scuffs? What if they trail at half? What if you see him lose his confidence? Is that a harder balance than we all recognize? It's a really hard balance, but I would actually tell our quarterbacks that you're no different to me, even though you are, an offense guard or a tailback, you're struggling. The other guy, especially if it deserves a right to play, you'll play.

You know, Nick Saban did that on the, I believe, at halftime, I won the national championship. He did. He did. He did. I've had quarterbacks say, I don't like the look at the – I had Chris Leak, and people said he's looking over his shoulder at Teabble, and I said, yeah, so was the receiver. So was the middle linebacker. I mean, that's if you recruit really good play. or have a good day

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they could play, George and Notre Dame. And James Franklin puts in the film, and these guys are all like, yeah, they've got a good running back. You can't fool the players. I don't know.

I think Boise State Now, Boise State is not built to play from behind. They get after the quarterback. They protect their quarterback. They run the football. Boise State's got pros. I don't know. How do you, as a coach, convince your team?

It's easy to convince, hey, here comes Tennessee. Here comes Notre Dame, Georgia. That's a different ball game. How do you convince Boise State, Penn State players? Is that a struggle? That's a real struggle. It's the locker room. You know, if I have grown-ass men as players, I'm having meetings with them, they have to, you know,

if the coach is up there, I mean, what is it, week 14, if I'm still having to do a sales job on my team, it's probably not a great team, but I don't have great leaders. I would anticipate that's not the case. I'll say this about Gentie is that we were there. Yeah. And the post-contact yards is what would be alarming to me. I would make a videotape of not him running against some team for 60 yards where he's untouched. I would make 30-play highlight tape.

of post-con i think he's the best post-contact runner i've seen in several years in college remember the michigan state walker was like that yeah it is he gets stronger as he gets hit yeah and we witnessed it and uh i would make a 25 play highlight tape i'd be running that through the facility and make sure the defense sees it over and over you better get him down because he's going to get yards after the hit yeah go back to that penn state ohio state game now will howard fumbled near the goal line i thought that really hurt the momentum of penn state but um i think that Edge Rush or Carter could be one of the five or six best players in college football. Penn State, because Michigan and Ohio State, they just take all the oxygen out of the room.

Penn State is one of those unique programs that we overlook, and it's a top 10 program. Go back to your days facing them. I don't know. I look at their talent, and maybe it's not Texas or Ohio State, but there's pros everywhere on that. Everywhere. Yeah, I go back to our games. We were down, I want to say, two scores twice in the fourth quarter against him in 2017 and 18. I think James Franklin has done a hell of a job.

Tremendous recruit. He doesn't get the credit he deserves. The fan base, the support is second to none at State College. So, yeah, I never looked at Penn State any differently than the upper echelon teams. Maybe others have. I never did because I walked out there and there's Sequan Barclay. You know, Chase McSorley. There's the, like you said, the defensive players they've had.

So, no, I've never, I've always looked at them as a top five, top seven program. Okay, now we've got to get serious. Okay. Let's get serious. So, yeah, the world, so years ago, I think it was McCaffrey and Leonard Fournett. You're in second-tier bowls. And they're like, I said at the time, when it comes to running backs, if you've given me three or four years and you sit out of the Liberty Bowl, I get it. Okay, we're not talking to Natty.

So do you agree with that premise, running backs were the last players in the last players in the game? in the NFL and college football, you can take a shot. You can hit him in the head. You can hit him anywhere. It's the last player available. If it's a second-tier bowl, I'd let him sit. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that did not compute.

Denzel Ward, the first time this really happened, Denzel Ward, a first round job. You're a great player. Great kid. I mean, I loved his family. We were like this. He comes in. No, I think his coach came into me and said, I think Denzel Ward is going to sit out the Cotton Bowl.

I'm like, I've never heard that before. This is before that all started happening. And I was like, sit out. Why would he sit out and get ready for the NFL draft? That was the first time. And that just did not, you know, I use the word compute. Like, what do you mean you're going to sit out on your teammates, etc., etc.? So Cam Ward played one half and left?

When I heard that, I think I told you earlier to me that someone said, Coach, what's your thoughts on that? I'm thinking that's like saying the world is square. I don't know. What do you say to your, like did he go in? change at half time? Did he get in a car and leave? Did he walk? I didn't see what happened. And they lost. Does it matter more because he's a quarterback?

Sure. Of course. That's the number of position. But I'm just wondering, how do you, how do you, you know, you walk in after the game and you just, you know, you get people played their hearts out. And I'm not criticizing it can't work because I don't know the whole situation. But someone asked me how I feel about that. Like, I don't, what do you say to your teammates? You just, maybe, maybe the ad is. It's just a second-rate bowl game. I've never looked at. Anytime you keep in score, you're trying to win that damn game.

And so I don't know. I got really mixed feelings on that. So I am a fan of the transfer portal and the NIL, but things need guardrails. Okay, I'm okay with that. I think it's hard to figure out the transfer portal because you have to be on the academic calendar. It gets in the way it's right after. That's the first time I've heard academics in a long time. That's great.

So it's a weird, the NIL, I'm going to propose this, is that, listen, Oregon's got Phil Knight and Texas has two billionaire donors, that we just say, listen, you get $18 million, that's the top. We know Purdue's got three and a half to five, Ohio State's going to have 18, but even the NFL has a salary cap. We're just going to say, 18 is what you can do. Is that reasonable, or do you not like that? I think it's very reasonable, and I think there's, logically, you have to have some kind of guardrails, some kind of system set up. I'm going to tell you this. I don't think there's any chance, though, because that would mean that the upper echelon schools are going to have to give up power. If you're Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, the teams with this ridiculous amount of money, you're the power player right now in college sports.

If you imagine sitting in a room and say, okay, we're going to back you guys down and make this more equal, like the NFL. The NFL. You've got 32 teams, and they're all working together under the same guidelines. College football is like this. You've got teams that are, you know, $20 million salary. Your Buckeye spent $20 million. And you have teams that can't do that. Why would those teams ever lower and raise the others? Right now, I don't see that happening.

I keep hearing that. I just sat in those meetings in the SEC. You think the SEC cares about the Big 12? No, I'll answer that question. where I send those meetings. They don't. They care about the SEC. I send the Big Ten meetings. You think the Big Ten is really concerned about what happens in the ACC? No, they're concerned about making sure their programs thrive in the Big Ten.

So you need cooperation and you need more equal footing. I don't know if I see that happening. Logically, yeah. But I don't see that happening. Now, it's going to go to a 14 to a 16 team playoff. I thought the media, I thought everybody overreacted to the first round. Listen, March Madness, you get blowouts, and if you get a couple of good Thursday games opening weekend, you feel great. Would you expand it?

Are you okay with 12? Because there's a lot of discussions that they're going to 14. There's also the Mountain West may not get a buy. We're going to see changes. It's the first year. Lighten up everybody. Of the 12 teams playoff, what bothers you the most? I don't like that Penn State's got an easier route than Oregon.

That's not fair. Oregon went undefeated. won the conference championship, and I got Ohio State is my first game? Yeah, I think there's going to be, like you said, this is the first year. There were some mistakes made, get used to blowouts, they're going to happen all the time. I think college basketball is a little bit easier for an upset than college football, just the masses of the humanity on the bigger teams. So there's going to be some adapting.

The biggest issue I didn't like is the fact that there are blowout games, I don't know how you get away from that. I agree with you also. There's got to be rewards. When I saw Penn State's path, they're a double-digit favorite. And then you can see Ohio State and not Ohio State. I'm not worried about Ohio State,

but the team that won it, like you said, Oregon, they had a more difficult path than Penn State, and that does not equate. Yeah. Hey, would you be, James Franklin suggested Nick Saban could be college football's commissioner. And for years on this show, we said, how can you be an $8 billion annual business

and have no commissioner. I think they need a strong voice to unify people. Why wouldn't you do it? You don't have to recruit. It's just a big strong guy that knows you have a big personality, you have strident beliefs. Why wouldn't you do it? Well, when I are Nick Saban?

You? No, I'm voting for Nick. Why wouldn't you do it? No interest at all. None? None. I just, when you're a commissioner of a conference, let me put it this way.

So imagine the NFL and they say, okay, Roger Goodell, we're going to now put the USFL in with the NFL. You guys are all going to be together. And that's what college football right now, everybody's not the same. They're not operating in the same guidelines. It'll never be that way. You take in Ohio State, you take the Wolverines, you take Georgia,

and then you're mixing, I'm not going to use names because I want teams to get mad here, but they're not the same. That's right. So this person has to lower their level, and this person has to raise to get any twice. any type of equilibrium in a that's not going to happen Colin so a commissioner would take you know I don't I don't know I again I just because I've sat in those meetings you got the haves and you got to have knots the halves would have to give up power do you really see that happening I don't

hey so um um um bellich so I know you and belichick so I know you and belichick are tight so I think the coaching's fine my take has always been that could barely tolerate Robert Kraft. The idea he's going to have to deal with a volleyball coach, I'm like, give me a break, that Bill's going to come in there, and Mike Lombardi, who I know is another kind of gruff guy. These guys are strident, strong opinion guys, and all of a sudden it's like, hey, you're going to go to the tennis match today

and support the athletic program. Give me a break. So I think Bill will just get worn out by the nonsense of college sports. The coaching's fine, the recruiting's fine, the players come to you. They're collective now. you know Belichick did you call him and warn him about some of the stuff he's going to have to deal with

no but I think five years ago I would have cost it don't do it you you're not going to wake up at six in the morning and go meet with the social studies teacher in high school and ask about the brother and then go into the get the transcript and figure out how he's doing in the

geology class and all this and then you have to go to a basketball practice and basketball game that night but you don't have to do that you know how many times the coach is where I heard this. I didn't realize this. We're out on the road in December. None. You don't recruit anymore the month of December. That used to be when you would fly in that private jet and he'd be in four to five states in one day the way we used to recruit.

Finish it a basketball game and then you'd be watching your computer get ready for bowl game. It's not that way anymore. Now it is simply they come visit you. You find out what the number is and you pay the number. So Coach Belichick. Why don't you do it again? If I could take recruiting out, why don't you coach again? Because I'm a Fox Big Noon, man.

I got a great job here. Hey, Sean Payton was at Fox, and now he's coaching the Broncos. No desire. You don't have to coach it. You don't have to recruit anymore. Let's go back to Bill O'Bellechuk. He'll figure it out, and I can't wait to watch it. He's 72, and I'm not a math major, but that's only three years away from 75.

So, you know, that's... So when you guys are together, I would be... I would love to hear this. I should wire you next time you go talk to him, And I'll give you some questions. So obviously, you ask Bill stuff, and you're interested. And then he asks you stuff, is give me something you asked Bill, a little bit of his wisdom. Because you guys are, I mean, he's, give me something that Bill said in a fishing trip or something.

And you were like, whoa, that's smart. Yeah, I would go visit the Patriots very often. And he'd come every year, started at Gainesville, Florida, and would visit with us. And he had the greatest locker room I have ever witnessed. I would go watch practice. you know, Tom Brady, Willinganist, you know, Mike Vrable, Rodney Harrison, you know, he had that locker room. And I remember I would actually sat with Tom Brady and Vrable.

And I was having some issues at Florida, locker missions. I remember that. And I was like, how in the hell do you guys do this? And those players said to me, it's our job to make sure nothing ever gets to Bill Bothertick's desk. That was how strong his locker room was. And I would meet with my leaders and use that as examples. And he got better as time wore on. and he would always ask me about the spread offense.

I was back in the Alex, I got a phone call. Bill Belichick called me when I took the Florida job, and he said, hi, this is Bill Belichick, and I said, I thought it was one of my boys, master. I said, well, this is Pete Rose. How you doing? And he came down, and Josh McDaniels back in the day, and they started running some of our Alex Smith spread offense stuff.

So he wanted to talk football. I wanted to talk locker room. I was amazed at how he did the Patriots. Yeah. Those Patriot teams were no nonsense. The best locker rooms I've ever witnessed. What was the best locker room you ever had? I would say the 14, the national champion, Buck Ice.

You know, when you're down your third-streen quarterback. Who are your leaders? Joshua Perry, Curtis Grant, Jeff Hiramon. We had just incredible leaders. And here you took a third-string quarterback and had one of the greatest runs ever because everybody just, you know, Joey Bosa, Zeke Elliott, Mike Thomas. Do you ever have a game in witness?

Didn't have you much. that at a Florida or Ohio state you went in and you knew you didn't have as good of players but you couldn't tell the players did you ever have a game and you came out of it and you thought we shouldn't have won that game sure back in the LSU days LSU had the best talent and people forget what Les Miles had down there I mean they had about a four to five year run right I'd grab my line coach every time when I saw LSU come out of Tyson now hell in the hell are you going to block those guys their defense line was that good how about Ed Orgeron's Joe Burrow to? team? Never coached against them, but they looked apart. That's the most talented college team I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah, I've had a couple of those where I'd look across and say, how in the hell. But just you change your game plan.

You know, you've got to get the ball off fast. You've got to attack this. We felt that way actually in the national championship against Ohio State when I was at Florida. Get the ball out here. Don't play in here. Get the ball out here. And that's what we did. Yeah, that's good stuff. I can't believe you wouldn't. Would you take

a call? Would you take a call? Would you take a call? Like a really good program says, hey, listen. A lot of money down here in blank. This wasn't on the rundown. You got to set me in. You're not going to get away. You look fantastic.

I feel great. I mean, what's golf? Just had grand kid number six. Wow. Peyton two days ago. So life is good, man. All right. You golfing?

A lot, yeah. Not very good, but a lot. Yeah, who's good? Scottie Schaeffler. Nobody else is good. The Great Urban Meyer. We take a break back after this. live in LA, The Herd.

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And so Jim Tressel was coach in Ohio State, and they were playing 2007 playing LSU for the Natty. And I said, hey, what's going to happen in the game? and Urban Meyer literally broke the game down. And I went on the air, and I wouldn't tell them where I heard it. And I said, I'll tell you how I think the game's going to go. And I basically took what Urban told me, and it turned out LSU won by two touchdowns. But he laid it out.

He just knew, he said, Ohio State keeps it close. LSU pulls away. They've got two of this, two of that. And he just kind of laid out. I'm like, I'm watching the game thinking, that's exactly what happened. So he's always been somebody I've leaned on for. kind of behind the scene stuff and how games work. How much of that do you think changes with the 12-team playoff?

Because kind of predicting, you know, some teams played last week, right? Yeah. Some teams have been on a, like, Boise State hasn't played a game in like 24 days. I don't love. I don't love the fact that Ohio State played so well. They're brimming with confidence, and Oregon's been sitting around with all these 19-year-olds. I think, first of all, I think buys in the NFL are overrated unless you have an old team, like Kansas City. Chris Jones, Travis Kelsey, Joe Tuny, they'll use the time off.

But like Detroit's pretty young, and you start looking at these, Baltimore's got some young guys. In Buffalo, it's like, I don't like Bison football. If you're healthy and ready to roll, now Detroit, like Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota doesn't want to, Vikings want to play. Addison, Naylor, Darnel, Jefferson, I don't want those guys taking a buy. I want those guys on the field every, I mean, so like there are certain teams in the NFL, Kansas City can use a buy, but Oregon is a fast California kids everywhere playing at the Rose Bowl.

I don't want them sitting around waiting for a game and getting distracted and go and seeing their families and I want them to play. So like last week it was a pretty easy handicap, right? The four favorites at home rolled. Everybody, you kind of had a sense. At home favorites. I think the games are closer this weekend. None of that.

That's all out the window. Now I think it comes down to coaching. how can you scheme up? Like Arizona State doesn't have the horses to hang with Texas, right? You look at Boise State's defense. They could barely stop Wyoming and San Jose. Like those guys scored like 30 points on Boise. Boise has to come out with a totally different game plan against Penn State,

something they have not seen. What good coach can cook that up with three plus weeks to prepare? And I think it comes down to coaching, and that's why I think Dillingham keeps it close with Arizona State. I like him a lot, man. He is a coach on the rise. Can Arizona State keep him? I think you just enjoy the ride.

You know, you don't worry about the future. Enjoy the moment. Dillingham's here now, probably in another year, and then after that, the big boys are going to come calling. Yeah, I like Notre Dame over Georgia. Marcus Freeman, man. That guy. Listen, college football is a young man's game,

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Because kids that commit to Notre Dame are beyond just getting paid in football. You choose Stanford and Notre Dame. Yeah, that's a good point. Because it's in your life. Once you go to Notre Dame and graduate, you go to a party, you tell people you went to Stanford or Notre Dame. It's not just, hey, I played football at first. Florida. Notre Dame players don't transfer out. So they're going to be able to create cohesion and chemistry that nobody else in college football, because there's only one

academic school that can compete for the title. It's not Northwestern or Stanford. It's Notre Dame. And so because that is such a part of the recruiting process, you're going to Notre Dame. It's an advantage. It's a lot of high school players. They have great. How did they rebound from that gutting loss? Chemistry and cohesion. You're not doing that if you got 48 guys from the portal. See you tomorrow. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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