The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Changes to CFB OT, Albert Breer

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Colin explains why he thinks the overtime rules in college football need to changed, his thoughts on the Eagles win streak this year, and Albert Breer stops by.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got, we are all stacked in Denver Broncos tonight. Hosting the Cleveland Browns, I'll be texting J-Mack. Jamak, you see that Bo Nix past, Cortland Sutton, Franklin Mims, whoever. Mims is, I forget his name from Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Marvin Mimbs. There's another kid, Franklin, from Oregon. Oregon. They got some okay players.

Hey, if they went tonight, the playoffs, they're waving at everybody else. Because the Colts are right behind them and they can't pass. The Colts could pass the Texans, though. The Texans, what is going on with those guys? The Texans are good. Are you sure? I like the Colts roster. I like the Texans quarterback.

I'm going to go with the quarterback. I don't think Boonex will do anything as impressive as Anthony Richardson's 90-yard game-winning drive and the two-point conversion. If you watch that, it was like, I mean, Richardson had like 80 yards passing leading into that drive. I know. And he delivered. I was like, okay. That game was weirdly entertaining.

It was, yeah. Football, it was just awesome yesterday, honestly, like eight hours. The whole four days. Eating like four days of leftovers. I watched all that Georgia Georgia Tech game. That thing, I was, I hate college overtime, but it is what it is. Okay. Albert Breer, who was front and center as a Buckeye, bad weekend for Albert.

Other stuff percolating in the NFL don't go anywhere. The bills continue to look like a Super Bowl contender hammered the Niners on Sunday night football. But last night, Buffalo reminded me of an eight-year-old on the first day of winter snowfall. They were having the time of their lives, baby. I think what you were watching last night is the champion that never was San Francisco and the potential champion that should be Buffalo. And the reason Buffalo should win a ringer three, Josh Allen. ran for a touchdown, threw for a touchdown, caught a touchdown, nothing he can't do.

Missing a couple of top offensive performers, meh, six straight games, 30 plus points on a driving snowstorm. We've been saying this. When you get Superman, you don't want to overuse him, and for years they didn't have a home run hitter at running back. Now they do. They had drama at wide receiver. Now they don't. They add Kincaid, Dalton Kincaid, a great tied end. They've always had a great left tackle.

They've rebuilt their offensive line. This is the best version of Buffalo, and I believe in the AFC, they've sort of separated. Baltimore, the defense special teams are a liability. Joe Burrow has the worst defense in the last decade. Kansas City's flawed. The chargers are not dynamic enough, and the Steelers, I like them. I was wrong on the Steelers, but I don't think their ceiling is Buffalo. They are built.

bills are just, they had a ball last night. I mean, the only team that plays in snow, they don't have like a heating system under it. No, that's okay. We're 6'0 at home. We're having the time of our lives. We'll lean into it. They are built for January and February football. You watch Miami go to Chile Green Bay.

They're like, can we get back on the flight home? Even the uniforms, dolphins in Green Bay. It doesn't work. Buffalo's built for this stuff. You look at the dynasties of the NFL. they've been Green Bay. Right? They'd be, oh, they're Kansas City.

It's New England. It's the Baltimore's. It's the Steelers. Cold weather, January, February, in a sport mostly played outdoors. Buffalo's got all the elements. A strong-armed quarterback. Don't have one of those in Miami.

The ball can get through this. A strong run game, sometimes, windy, you've got to just hand it off. Good old line. Tough defensive culture. Snow games generally don't do it for me, except if it's the, the bills. You know, it's Elvis and Vegas. It just works. You know, it just works. And Josh

Allen is your set of all-weather tires. I mean, and then, you're watching them have the time of their lives. On the other side, it's San Francisco. I said a week ago, it's time to tear this puppy down. People push back. That's not true. We're close. No, you're not. Christian McCaffrey hurt again. Fred Warner hurt. Trent Allen, Bosa didn't play. Folks, put up the signs. Liquidation sale. Get draft picks. The sooner San Francisco admits this puppy's over, the better. Reinforcements are not coming. Stop drafting wide receivers. Get Kyle Shanahan away from the personnel department. It ruined Bill Belichick and Bill O'Brien. And among other things, John Gruden didn't help Pete Carroll. Get Shanahan away from personnel. Go back to being a strong,

forceful team, run first. Brock Purdy's not a guy you can rely on. in January and February, if he's got to play in cold weather or against, you know, he's not a Joe Burrow. He's not a Lema Holmes. He's not. He's not a, I don't think he's a Jalen Hertz in terms of playmaking. That's not what he is. He doesn't throw it as well as golf or move as well as Jalen Hurts in the NFC or Jordan Love. So San Francisco, the sooner they can come to terms with it, the better.

But what you were watching last night is the champion that never was, San Francisco. And they're going to struggle letting go with this puppy. It's over. reinforcements aren't coming. Tear it down to the studs. And on the other side, you saw Bill's team once again dominate the AFC East. They're going to win this division as long as Josh Allen is in its prime, which is five more years, just like Brady did.

And here's Josh after. This one feels a little bit different. This early in the season, we still got five games left. At the same time, we're chasing the one seed. We understand that we know that. And we've got to keep getting better each and every week. but it's it's going to be fun i mean to go out there and play free and play relax and play loose i think that's that could be a dangerous team a lot of sports when it comes to team sports

is taking advantage of these tiny windows kansas cities flawed baltimore and cincinnati defense not off the stuff and you start looking at pittsburgh's ceiling this is the year for buffalo they're mostly healthy. They could get the number one seed. They've got a superstar quarterback, good front office, no chaos in coaching. And they've had a little bit of that in the coordinator head coaching space. This feels like the year for the bills. I want to talk about this next. The Steelers beat the Bengals 4438. So for years and years, I defended Russell Wilson. I think everybody liked him. Let Russ Cook. And then it ended poorly. Then he went to Denver. It was a bit of a mess. He and Sean

Peyton, personalities clash. He went to Pittsburgh. And my take was, I think the players are going to like Justin Fields more, young, relatable, athletic. But the one thing that Steelers haven't been, and I mean even in the Big Ben days, Big Ben Prime days, they've always been loose, a little overly dramatic, loud, and undisciplined offensively.

And Mike Tomlin needed Russell Wilson. And frankly, Russell Wilson needed Mike Tomlin. a head coach that isn't looking over his shoulder in the meeting rooms. Mike, let's offense do offense. And I don't know if this team Pittsburgh's going to beat Philly in two weeks or Baltimore and three, but Tomlin and Russell Wilson are perfect. Russell is the adult in the room for an offense that's desperately needed that for years. He's focused, he's driven, he's aspirational, he's grateful, he's serious, he's disciplined,

he doesn't turn the ball over and defensive coaches like that. And here's the thing. Both Tomlin and Russell Wilson have trophies, have healthy confidence. I think they're good people. Both got humbled. Tomlin kept hearing, bro, you can't win playoff games. Brady Manning. Mike Tomlin had to look himself in the mirror and go, you know what?

I got to get a grown-up to run this offense. And Justin Fields had a winning record. He pulled him out, gave it to Russ. Tomlin got nothing but crap, and he was right. He was right. He's like, I need a senior statesman. And by the way, Russell Wilson figured out in Denver, you know what, I'm probably going to be a complimentary piece. I can't be the savior for football teams. So before Russell Wilson arrived, the last several years with Pittsburgh, there was one way to win.

Create turnovers, mostly low scoring, played really well as an underdog, not necessarily as a favorite. 4438 wins over Joe Burrow were not available to this franchise the last several years. And now they are. So there's multiple ways to win. And I mean, in my entire life, every really great Steeler team has had two things. A great tough defense and a quarterback that could beat you over the top. From Terry Bradshaw to Big Ben, and that is Russell Wilson's primary asset now at his age. He'll beat you down the field.

And the last time the Steelers finished in the top 10 in the offense, Andrew Luck was starting for the Colts. So it has been a while where they had a quarterback that would couple with a defense and a Mike Tomlin and a Chuck Knoll or a Bill Cower that could burn you if you weren't honest. And it gives the Steelers now multiple ways to win. And Mike Tomlin and Russell Wilson, there's no clash of personalities. Sean Payton sees offense a certain way. Russell didn't play it that way.

Clash. Right? And then Russell saw the world a certain way, and by the end, Pete Carroll didn't. The Tomlin Russell thing works. Here's the coach after. Thought our group, you know, smiled in the face of it, particularly Russ. You know, it was the first time for him going through this AFC North football. And then I thought he acclimated himself to a well today.

He put himself squarely in the history of these series and this series with that performance, today, man, and we're thankful for. I'll tell you there was a moment after the game. It was one of those in the hallway gestures where Tomlin grabbed Russ and gave him a hug, and you could really see the affection. Tomlin understands, and this has been Pittsburgh, even during the Big Bend days, is Mike is a very emotional coach. His Steelers are tough, physical, they're emotional, and sometimes with young players,

you know, you've got to have a grown-up on the offensive side, because Mike will monitor the defensive side. But it's always been the offense and you're like you're a little noisy, you're a little loud, you're a lot buttoned up. And that's what Russ brings. Disciplined, focus, grown up, grateful, aspirational, driven. That's exactly what they needed and the fit works. I didn't think it did. I didn't think it would.

It does. All sorts of good stuff left Albert Breer, the Buckeye around the corner. A lot of people want Ryan Day gone. I'll just say more chaos will ensue. I still contend Texas is the best team that a bad Saturday at home against Georgia, I think Ohio State, Tennessee, and Oregon are my best bets. I just don't think Georgia's good enough. I think Tennessee, Ohio State, and Oregon wouldn't be shocked if any of those ended up playing Texas.

But I don't count the Buckeyes out. They've got too much talent. And they don't have to play Michigan again. They don't match up with Michigan. Michigan is in Ohio State's head. Let's wait the calendar year and see how we go. next year in Ann Arbor. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports

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There was the flag planting incident, which was ugly, but it happened all over the country. So somebody will put a kibosh to that. But it was pepper spray and not good and put a little stain on the game. As Michigan shocked the world, a team that can't master the forward pass this year beat Ohio State. Here was Wolverines running back, Khalil Mullings, after the game with Jenny Tass. At the end of the day, you know, some people got to, they got to learn how to lose, man. You can't be fighting and stuff just because he lost the game, you know, all that fighting. We had 60 minutes.

We have four quarters to do all that fighting. And now people want to talk and fight. That's wrong. You know, it's just bad for the game. Classless, in my opinion, you know, and people got to be better. Well, let's go to a reporter, a journalist, Albert Breer. Yes, he went to Ohio State and he's a bit bitter today. but what are you?

That was a convenient opinion, I think. He didn't mention the flag planning. Well, what do you make? I mean, is it bother you? No, like, I think if you win the game, you have the right to do what you want to do, but that doesn't mean you get to do what you want to do without repercussion.

And if you are going to dance on a logo or plan a flag, you should expect a fight. That's just what it is, because what you are doing then is you are saying, not only did I beat you, I'm going to go ahead and disrespect you, disrespect your program. Okay.

And I mean, to me, at least, like, I think that is picking a fight. Yeah. So if you are picking a fight, you need to be ready for a fight, Kaleel Mowlings. That's the score here. Like, you want to plant your flag, no problem. You do what you need to do, but you cannot do that without expecting repercussions.

I don't know. Listening to him talk, it was almost like he had missed the whole part about planning the flag. Like, planning the flag is what started the fight. When you plant the flag in that rivalry, you should know what's going to happen. And, you know, I agree with the Big Ten's decision to define both sides. Yeah. Because one side picked a fight, the other through obliged. The other side obliged the side to pick the fight with a fight.

Why not just out, we have a picture of you at the game. As you were watching the flag planning, you very, very distraught. Was this actually during the flag planning? Well, it looks like it was at any point in the game watching your offense, from what I can tell. But why not just ban flag planning? Because, I mean, by the way, Sark in the A&M games, like he got in front of his longhorns, he's like, get out of here. We're not getting involved on the road with that stuff. How about just ban it, period in college football?

How about that? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, that'd be up to the powers to be. Um, you know, I think, I think it's stupid anyway, don't you, Colin? Like, yeah, like most of these fields are turf. Yeah. So what happens when you plant the flag as you jam it into the ground and then it falls over? Yeah.

So it's like it doesn't even stick there, which makes it like even more stupid. So, uh, if they want to, if they don't, if they want to ban it, that's fine. I actually like kind of like field storming. Like I think field storming is like a good, good, good clean fun, like a college activity. You know what I mean? like and as long as everybody is you know like everybody's not a psycho about it like you know like that can be fine um if they wanted to black to to to ban flag planning because it's causing fights like i i wouldn't have a huge problem with that um let me by the way you notice to thank for

all this is your old buddy baker mayfield hey he's always been a pioneer let me ask you i um and i said this ohio state can can't be a first job. I mean, listen, Dan Lannning has worked at Oregon. But it's a big job. I've said it reminds me of Mark Richt at Georgia, quarterback coach, you get a big brand. I think Ryan Day is fine. But there is something to be said about steps. You don't start it where you work right now and write. You go to the local paper, a bigger local paper. Then you maybe you're a secondary reporter at a big space. Then you become the columnist. There are steps to life. Is it possible that Ryan Day,

here, he's still figuring out how to coach. Because I don't even know what Ohio State's identity is as a program. I just know they're talented. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's fair. You know, look, like, I think a big part of that job is understanding the terms of employment, you know. And, yeah, when I was in school there, John Cooper was the coach. Yeah. And, you know, I know that that's a third rail name for a lot of people.

But I remember thinking, like, and I'm not from Ohio, but a lot of my family is from the Midwest. and my family is Big Ten. And so I felt like I had an understanding of it. I think until you're in it, you don't really know. Sure. How important the rivalry is and how the rivalry, how you approach the rivalry is really important. Here's what I mean by that.

I think every coach who's coached at Ohio State feels the pressure. But how do you approach the pressure? Do you think the pressure is a burden? Do you feel like you're a victim of the pressure? Or do you think the pressure is a privilege? And do you think being in those shoes is a privilege? And I think that that can be the subtle difference sometimes. Like Urban, and you guys work with him,

I was at the game in 16 that was the one where Curtis Samuel, you know, scores at the end in overtime. I think it's still the only overtime game in the history of the series. And Urban like kind of falls to ground. I watched Urban for a lot of overtime. It's where we were sitting. He had kind of a clear look at him. And it looked like he was going to have a heart attack damn near the whole time.

Like it looked like he was about to keel over and die. And like, so you can't tell me that guy didn't feel the pressure. But I never heard Urban ever scuffle against the pressure or, you know, feel uncomfortable. It was just like he viewed like that as like a privilege, you know, like that that he was in that role. Like, yeah, it's hard, but like he viewed that as a privilege. And I sort of felt the same way with Trussell. So I love Ryan as a person, as a coach. Like I just, I wonder sometimes, like, do you fully appreciate?

embrace it. Do you fully embrace the terms of employment? Because I think the guys who've been successful at Ohio State. And obviously, Ohio State's ceiling's always been higher than Michigan's for a variety of different reasons. And the pressure there's always been more intense than it is at Michigan. And the winning's been more consistent. The bars higher on a more, like all the evidence shows that. Are you willing to embrace all of that? And are you willing to say, you know what, these two games that we're going to play at the end of the year do matter more? Yeah. The game for, the game against Michigan, the game in the Big Ten title game, the playoff game, whatever. it is like that's how i'm judged here it's not by beating iowa in the middle of october it's not by

beating indiana it's by beating michigan winning the big ten and winning the national title um so i just think a huge part of you know a coach's ability to succeed in that job comes down to how willing he is to embrace those things all right two NFL things i have to get to first is the bears a great job and is there a leader in the clubhouse i hear marcus freeman at noder dame what are you here so like i i i know a lot of people are going to look at and say they need an offensive guru I don't really agree with that. I think they need somebody who's going to be willing to stand up to ownership to stand up to the front office to really be a leader, not just of the guys in the locker and but of the organization.

You know, I think if you look over the course the last 15 years or so, there's something that's broken there. And they've gone back and forth from an offensive coach, a defensive coach, from a player's coach to a taskmaster. And I think in the process, you're right, they've lost like any sort of identity in who they are. So I think they need somebody to come in and establish an identity. And I think they need somebody who's going to be willing to stand up. And if ownership's wrong about something, tell them like, hey, you're doing this the wrong way. If the front office is wrong about something, tell them like, no, we cannot do things this way. And so, like, I have my eyes on guys.

And I think it's sort of similar to what Detroit needed, you know? So, you know, Ben Johnson is a name that's been, you know, thrown around there for over a year. And I think at one point he really wanted that job. I'm not sure if that's the case as much anymore. But I'd look at a Bill Belichick. I'd look at a Mike Frable. I'd look at, you know, if you're, you know, want an assistant to turn him into a head coach like an Aaron Glenn who's been in Dan Campbell's program, you know, and who is a former player. I just think they need a really strong personality who has an idea of the identity he wants to establish who's going to stick to that identity.

You know, I think one of the most impressive things about Detroit, Colin, is those guys stood there on day one and they said they were going to build something and they built exactly what they said they were going to build. I think that's what Chicago needs more than they need just some guy who's going to develop one player on the roster. So we get into this discussion during the break. I'm like, if I'm Pittsburgh, and I mean, some of it is Russell Wilson historically doesn't get hurt. You got these T.J. Watt players that you got to chase the ring when you have them, these historically great players. And I think Russell's a free agent after the season. What's wrong with signing him to do a three-year deal at $30 million large? Is that crazy?

Because I'm watching him play. he's highly effective. You can't let Russell Wilson go, can you? Well, their policy is not to sign guys in season, and that's a long-standing policy. And you can say it's stupid, and they should make an exception, and maybe they should.

But they just haven't done it. And I do think, like, just having talked to people there, they want the full body of work, right? So they want the body of work, what it looks like in the regular season, what it looks like in the post season, how Justin Fields is going to fix. into all of this because remember he's a free agent too. I just think they want the full body of work. And, you know, part of it too is like over time, teams are going to build up some more

tape on how Arthur Smith is deploying Russell Wilson. So where's your counterpunch? You know, there are all sorts of things that play into that. So I think they're comfortable with where they're at right now. They'd still love for fields to have, you know, a future with the franchise as well. But I think you're right. Like you could look at Russell Wilson now and how he's married up with what Arthur Smith is doing with him on offense and say, this could be an effective bridge, where for the next year or two, like, he can get us to whoever our long-term guy is going to be. I just don't think it's going to happen in season because they've never done it that way. Let me ask one more question. Nineers. I mean, I'm telling you, watching Purdy against Josh Allen in the snow.

I mean, it was Mac Jones and Josh Allen. It was nothing special. You're sure they're giving Purdy the bag. Yeah, I think so. Now, I can tell you, like, people that are flat out told me that that's the plan, and they've budgeted for that and that they're preparing, they've been preparing to do that. You know, I don't know where negotiations are going to go. And we know the Niners have had some protracted negotiations over the last few years, right? So they had one with Nick Bosa, they had one with Brandon Ayuk, they had one with Debo Samuel. A couple of those got to the point where, you know, the idea of making a trade was on the table.

So, you know, they've fought through these things in the past. Obviously, a quarterback is a little different because you've got to know who your starting quarterback is going to be in March. And so, like, I think for the Niners, it's going to be about sitting down and starting the process of this early. The last time they were in a situation like this with Jimmy Garapolo, they got that deal done if you remember in January. So I'd expect that they're going to be aggressive in trying to pursue a deal with Brock Purdy, whether their season ends at the right end of the regular season or at some. point in the playoffs. You know, and then you see where it goes. The one thing that does kind of make it interesting, though, Colin, if you do want to, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you do want to stir the pot a little on this is that Sam Darnold's had a great year. He was in

their system. He'll be a free agent. Yeah. And then Kirk Cousin's contract is tradable. So right there, you have two guys who are legitimate starting quarterbacks in the league this year. Yeah. Where you could look at them and say experience in Kyle Shanahan's system, either of those guys could work. So if you're looking for like a leverage point that the Niners have with Brack Brock Purdy where they could say, take our offer at 40, take our offer at 35, or else we'll go get this guy for that price. That certainly could exist as an element in the negotiation. Good stuff. Albert Breer. Let's see that sad picture because I've never seen Albert sad. He's such a joyful human being. They didn't get any happy pictures of me. See, this is the picture. This is the picture that I get

to send to my buddies now. See my buddy Ron there on my right, my buddy Reagan, Mick is over Reagan's shoulder, Shrock. Trina's not there for some reason. But yeah, like I, like this is a picture that I got to send to my buddies now. I kind of look like a congressman though, don't I? You look like a, you look like a senator who just got beaten the midterms or something. I don't know. It's just, it looks like you hang around a bunch of tough guys. I would look like you had some fun in college. That's what it looks like to me. Oh, absolutely. We definitely did. All right. Good seeing you, buddy. Don't worry. You're going to be fine. Just got to get another star quarterback.

You're going to be fine. Hey, Natty or bust. Maddie your bust now. That's it. I still like you in the championship. You were Oregon against Texas. There you go. Let's go.

Let's go, Colin. When everybody's bailing on a good program, everybody's bailing on Ohio State, slow down. I just don't want to play in Michigan again, but slow down. I watch Georgia this weekend. I'm watching Miami.

I'm watching. Texas looks here. and every, I'm going to stay with just Oregon, Tennessee, Ohio State, and Texas. If the Vols win a Natty, I am going to be obnoxious. That's all I'm going to say. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. Speaking of obnoxious, how about the commanders? This was one of your best calls. I'm surprised you're not doing a victory lap here. In the offseason, you were higher on them than everyone. They snapped a three-game skid on Sunday with a big win over the Titans. Jane Daniels was on fire early. Washington scored T-Ds on their first four possessions.

Daniels accounted for four of the scores throwing for three, adding one on the ground. They outgained Tennessee by over 200 yards, and they're back in the mix for, you know, locking up a playoff spot. Jayton Daniels, by the way, improving his offensive rookie of the year odds. He's now minus 220. Bo Nicks second. Brock Bowers has overtaken Caleb Williams for fourth. Any thoughts on the commander's rousing victory? I think they have a buy week.

Then they go to New Orleans. I think they're going to win that game, and they're going to be home free. The weird one is the NFC South, where it's like I picked Atlanta to win. Kirk Cousins off the rails, and, you know, Baker is, you know, Baker can deliver. When Baker's backed into a corner, and I like Tampa's. roster. So if I had to bet today, I'd probably take Tampa over Atlanta, but Atlanta beat him twice already. Yeah. So head to head if it's tied, that goes to the Falcons. That Seattle, Arizona matchup this weekend in the desert is used. Is that one on Fox? That's a good matchup.

By the way, what's the line on that? I like Arizona. Who do you think's favored? Arizona's favorite. They're favored, yeah. I don't know that I agree with that. I would guess. I think Seattle's aside. I like the Seahawks team, man. I know they kind of no-show in the first quarter against the Jets. But I think they're a dangerous team. Playing at home in January, that's a tough place. No, it's in Arizona. No, no, I'm just saying in the playoffs. I like Seattle. But yeah, they got to get their first at Arizona this week. Washington is a dangerous seven-seat. They got to get Echler back. He's on the IR now with that concussion. But Brian Robinson looked good. The defense, by the way, Marshawn Latimore sounds like he's going to play this coming

week. That's big for Washington. Up next, how about this one, Colin? The Colts and Anthony Richardson with an incredible game-winning drive. There's Richardson with a game-winning TD toss, and then they went for two instead of playing for overtime, and Richardson just bulldozes into the end zone. He's incredible talent. It was a 19-play, 80-yard drive for the win. Shane Steichen decided to go for two,

and here's Richardson having with the ball in his hands. No doubt. Whenever there's a situation like that, I would like the ball in my hands because I feel like I can make a play. But it's up with coach, you know. It's not really up to me. make a decision at some point. So if he does believe that, I can make a plan, make a change. No, I'll do it. And if not, you know, somebody else has to do it.

Look at him. If you didn't know what position he played and you just said this guy at the podium, guess which position he played? It's like Dwight Freeman. Yeah. He'd be like rush end. Did you see that that tube, that touchdown when he's running over people? Yeah. Now, as a thrower, I think he was 12 of 24. No, listen, it is. It is a complete work in progress. It's not that he lacks arm strength or coachability because he'll make throws, but he's just not there. I was told by an NFL

GM, Jalen Milro is a more polished version of Anthony Richardson, which to me is very draftable. Because I think you have, because he only played 13 college games. I don't think you can, I think you just have to wait to the year's done. You have to look at it. Give him one more year. I mean, if you can draft

a quarterback in the first round, that's that physically gifted, you've got to give him a third year. Very young guy. John Taylor looked good. Nice kid, coachable. hard worker. Like everybody likes the kid. If the Texans, they've got to be careful here. This Colts team can pass them. There's a chance that the Texans miss the playoffs.

Texans just don't look crisp. I mean, the culture, you know, this is a game against the Patriots, a bottom feeder. By the way, any thoughts on Drake May watching that game? Drake can play. I think they're fine. I think he's good. You know, I think he's good too. I mean, he's got to argue with the weakest receiving court. No, it's not arguable.

You're like, who is that guy? Okay, Sean Bouté, whoever that is. You know, like they... Well, he said they drafted him in the six round, that day. throwing a six-round guy. Like, that's your top target? You come here for mock draft information. This guy nails it. Final story is Baker Mayfield and the Bucks.

How about this thriller in Carolina? I didn't watch that game. It was corner TV game. You missed out, man. So Tampa, you know, they couldn't stop Bryce Young largely. He had a great... Hey, he's had a good month. Oh, he's been tremendous.

He put them ahead with 30 seconds left, but Baker got him in field goal range, and the kid hit a bomb in overtime. A tough fumble by the first. running back from the Panthers and then Tampa gets in field goal range and wins it. Bucky Irving, I thought, was the second story here. Dude, he is. He is.

Good. Yeah, they have a lot of depth in the running back group. What did they drive to what round was he? Because that guy's a stud. They got three running backs, right? And then Tucker, so they got, and Mike Evans is still like an ageless wonder. The Bucks and Falcons tied at the top of the division. Who's Tampa play next?

Do we know? I'd have to look that up, but they're both six and six. And the Falcons own the tiebreaker, which is not great for Tampa. year of and fourth round. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Atlanta at Minnesota this week. Oh, that's not a good spot for that. That's a tall order. Meanwhile, Tampa Bay has the Raiders on deck. Raiders are awful. By the way, Raiders play hard. Tampa closes out with

Cooper Rush, Derek, sorry, Bryce Young and Derek. Oh, look at that. That is favorable. Oh, my lord. Baker Mayfield in the playoffs. Well, Atlanta's schedules garbage, too, though, isn't it? Yeah, they're facing who are the, I don't know who the Giants have a quarter of back, and then they got Vegas as well in Carolina. That Washington game is going to be a tough one, because Washington's going to be fighting for a playoffs, but I like Washington.

Yeah, Baker-Mayfield. Good story if you get to the playoffs. When you got the Raiders at the end of your schedule, well, you're in a good space. When you got Raiders, Carolina. Did you really say they started 10 rookies on Thanksgiving? Raiders played 10 rookies. No, Raiders play hard. Pierce is coaching them up.

No, no. The effort they give, they're playing a third of their, or half their starters are rookies. They're playing rookies everywhere. Brock Bowers had 15 targets against the team. He's insane. I mean, you have to go like Kellyn Winslow Jr. for a prospect of tight end that

gifted. I mean, he is something else. J. Mackle of the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. We got a lot of stuff going on. Poor Albert Brear. That was a tough one for him. You know, I was watching that college overtime thing

with Georgia and Georgia Tech. I I don't like college overtime. First of all, you don't want overtime to last very long. Why? Because it affects, you're going to get more guys hurt. How many Georgia guys are wobbling off the field? So it's like, did anybody sit around in a college committee room and go, here's an idea.

Let's do two-point conversions. It could last all night. And nobody went, nah, it's a bad idea. They're college kids. They could get hurt. Anybody gone skiing before? The two or three times I've been hurt skiing, is like the last run of the day.

You're tired, your shot, your legs buckle. You know, it's yard sale. You skis over there, pulls over there. You don't have anything left. Guys get hurt at the end of football games. You, I always had a theory on what overtime should be. In the NFL, everything's built for the home team to win. You can't hear.

You always get a break at home. So in overtime in the NFL, the road team always gets the ball first. First point score. So what does that do? It forces the home team to be aggressive. Home teams like, let's just go to overtime. We can win a coach. No, no, no, no.

Home team's got to be super aggressive. And if a home team's being aggressive, a road team will. So just give the road team ball first to the road team. Now, the road team may not be very good offensively, and they don't want it. And they could elect to give it up. But the road team gets the call in overtime, just for the first possession. because everything is built in the NFL. If you win the Super Bowl, you draft last.

Everything's built for parity. College football is not. But I still think it works in college football. I mean, if you have 19, 20-year-old kids, and you have 13 possessions, and you're a home team in college, and you can't put it away, road team gets the ball first, first score wins. And college special teams are awful,

so you'd have to score a touchdown. Nobody in college has a kicker. It's like one a year. So I always thought you want the overtime. Stop this whole thing. Well, it's not fair. You had 13 possessions. That was the fair part.

Now, let's end this thing as quickly as we can. Road teams, college and pro. You get the choice. Do you want it or do you want to defend it? First point score. This whole thing about fairness. Have you ever thought to yourself in college football? You know, this sport is not have-than-have-nots.

Purdue may win a national championship. The whole damn sport is a hierarchy. Let's stop the fairness thing. You want to end overtime as soon as possible not to get players hurt. And even in the NFL, there's like they've done studies on this. Teams that go to overtime, A, have more injuries and lose the following week on average. You know, this whole, let's go to the 13. It was embarrassing kind of.

At some point, you're like, this is bad for college football. Live in LA, The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays, and New Neat, Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news,

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They're very reliant on their offense. But their special teams for years has gone into the tank. It was so good for years. And John Harbaugh is a former special teams coach, Justin Tucker. That was always like one of their specialties. They'd steal two or three wins a year on special teams. And their defense on the back end, Kyle Hamilton's amazing. But it's pretty, you know, it's pretty liminal.

limited. But I think a lot of it's just Philadelphia from Jalen Carter, who's unblockable. They nailed a couple of draft picks in the secondary at corner, one from Toledo. And I think Philadelphia is, they're really good. I think today Philadelphia would beat Detroit, neutral field or maybe Detroit. I think I'd take Philadelphia. Remember, Detroit's a dome team and Philadelphia is used to outdoors. That's a big advantage. Jared Goff historically, very, very good indoors. above 60 degrees. And so when I watch Buffalo or I watch Philadelphia,

it looks like they're made for the elements. And here's Matt Hasselbeck, who's been a big supporter of Nick Seriani on why he's higher on the Eagles than most. I like Nick Siriani. I think he's a really good coach. I think the Eagles are a really good team. I feel like I like the Eagles more than Eagles fans like the Eagles,

which is in a weird way. Like, I believe in them more. No, listen, I thought like yesterday's game, they coached around their injury situation. They didn't have Devonty Smith. And so they said, okay, you know what? We are going to be, you know, a lot of people talk about RPO. The Eagles in that game, they were an RRO offense, a run or a run option.

It's winning football. Dick Fangio does a great job. I've told you, Kellan Moore is learning his guys. And really, it's a one-two punch and the defense is off balance. I thought they mixed up tempo. I just, I like Nick Siriani. I think he's got his team focused each and every week. and we pay attention to some of the antics like on game day.

But I think if you look at that team like Monday to Saturday, they're locked in. They don't have distractions. Now think about the teams that are going to play well in bad weather. Obviously Buffalo, strong-armed quarterback, good old line, run game, tough defense. Pittsburgh, although they're a little reliant sometimes on the deep pass, good defense, Russ can move.

So Pittsburgh, I think, is built for bad weather. And they, you know, practice planet Buffalo built for bad. bad weather, Kansas City with Isaiah Pacheco back. The Interior O line for the Chiefs, Guard, Center, Guards, good. So I think Kansas City, I think Buffalo, I think Pittsburgh, I think those teams, and Denver a little bit, I think they're built for cold weather. If you look at the NFC, I think Philadelphia is built for cold weather. I think Green Bay, now with Josh Jacobs, they're a power run team.

I think Green Bay is built for cold weather. I think Philadelphia is. I think Seattle, I like Walker and Charbonne. I think they're kind of built for cold weather. I'm not sure if Washington is or Minnesota is. Yeah, listen, I've been saying this for the last week or two, is that January, February football is just, it's December, January, February, it's just different football.

And there are certain teams, like, I don't think there's any question. Atlanta's not built for cold weather. Kirk Cousins, I don't feel like they're, I don't, Detroit's built to win football games. I don't think ideally they're built for cold weather. although they're just losing so many people on the defensive side. I don't know if Washington's built for cold weather. And then when you go to the AFC, I don't think the Houston Texans necessarily are built for cold weather.

It matters. The Chargers just, the Chargers actually are, but now they got running back health issues and they got wide receiver issues and I think they're ahead of schedule. I could argue that even though they're a dome team, if the Colts made the playoffs, Anthony Richardson, Jonathan Taylor, and their tight ends, they're actually in their defensive front. I could argue that Indy, strangely, is built for cold weather as a dome team. They don't want to get in shootouts. That's not what they do. But keep your eye on Denver tonight. J. Mack is a very, he doesn't like Bo Nix at all.

You're not a Bo Nix guy. Just because I'm not all about him like you are. It doesn't mean I'm not, I'm out on him. He's good. I'm just rooting against him tonight. Okay, let's show the video. Did you watch Brock Purdy against Josh Allen last night? You mean in the Blizzard? Yeah, I watched that. That's how you have to win games in December and January. Brock Purdy slash Mac Jones. Did you see what he looked like?

How about when he threw in the ball flopped out? Stop, come. I'm just being honest. You just don't like Brock Purdy. It's fine. It's not that I don't like him. But if I'm going to pay him $45, $50 million, it can't look like that.

In the snow? Now, you can lose. You can lose like Justin Herbert would lose or C.J. Straub would lose. But it can't look like that. It can't look like best quarterback in the league and whatever that. It can't look like that.

So Tua got, how much money did it? Well, I know, and that's my point. So when you watch Miami go to Green Bay. Tua didn't play awful in Green Bay, but historically, he's winless when it's cold. They looked cold. They coached cold. I think they've had a season high for mistackles throughout the league, the defense, the 21 mistackles.

It was 24-3 and half. Yeah. I mean, it was just, I mean, it's just so funny to watch Miami play in cold weather. You can see it. You could just, they just look like they want to get. in a flight and go home at half. Yeah. By the way, Detroit, I know they're a dome team, but they're running game with Montgomery

and is. It is built with the great offensive line. But if you play of Philadelphia, you're going to... The big question is golf. He has turned into a pumpkin before in cold weather outdoors. There's a specific Chicago game. Remember when he was with the Rams? Sunday night football, like one of the worst cold weather performances,

I can recall. We'll see. Ben Johnson's going to have some stuff ready. You know that. He's always auditioning for jobs. Unbelievable. I like Denver tonight. Score. 30-20. I'll go 13-9. Browns. Hey guys, it's us.

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