The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Chris Broussard, Benjamin Garcia

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Jason has more on LeBron James being unhappy with the Lakers, trying to figure out where Suns SG Bradley Beal ends up after a presumed contract buyout, and more! Guests: Chris Broussard, Benjamin GarciaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we would run into each other, and he was a little taken aback by some of my takes. I had to take him to school, you know, and then the old dog taught me some new tricks. So let's begin, Chris Broussard. First things first. The man, the middle legend. You didn't tell the story. You didn't tell the story about how when you were a cub reporter in New York. I was the only vet that was kind to you.

That is 100% true. Everybody else was blowing you off and I was kind to you. So I was this young guy at a newspaper in Jersey and I was crushing it and I had a couple job offers. So they were like, oh, we got to throw McIntyre a bone to keep him in. So I went to a USA basketball thing in Madison Square Garden and I walk in wide eyed. I'm trying to talk to people.

Hey, where do I plug in my computer? And these guys are brushing me off. And Brousard's like, hey, young fella takes me under his wing. Listen, Bruce Ard is a great guy. I like how you're wearing a Jets tie. Your show is in New York. How am I going to do this season, Brew? What are we looking at?

10 and 7? Look, Justin Fields? No, I'm not going 10 and 7. I'm excited about Aaron Glenn. I'm somewhat excited to see Justin Fields. I think they will cater the offense to him. They won't try to fit, you know, him into a square peg into a circle. So I think he'll be okay, but I'm not going 10 and 7.

They're not making the playoffs. All right. What big talking point so far today is this quarterback list that came out. I'm sure you guys are going to chop it up on first things first next. But, Brew, I got to ask you, I had some issues with the list. I did my own. I had Patrick Mahomes coming in at four coming off his worst season as a pro. I had Brock Purdy in there.

I love Jalen Hertz at five. I'm just curious if we could get my list on the screen and you want to kind of poke holes in it. I mean, there's really not a lot you can do. I know you're good at this, but this is kind of impervious. Patrick Mahomes is number one. What are you talking about? He is in a category by himself, okay? I will give you, if this season he comes out and plays the mediocre by his standards

type of football he did last year, and there they win 10 or 11 games, get bounced in the first or second round of the playoffs, sure, then you can move him down. But until further notice, he is the best. Not much of a receiving core at all last year. Offensive line on the blink, and yet he still goes 15 and 1 and gets his team to the Super Bowl. I'm sorry. He is the best quarterback I've ever seen, period. He's not the goat yet. He's got to do more and win more championships to get to Brady. But come on, man. Dude is number one. He's in the category of his own. Outside of that, I'm putting Lamar ahead of Joe Burrow. If your argument for Josh Allen, he has been better in the postseason than Lamar.

But right now, I would say I would put Lamar in two, but I understand the playoff argument. I think you, I like Hertz like you do, but I, and I get it, it's only one year. But right now, I'm going with Jayden Daniels at five. A lot of people are going on. Jayden Daniels, yeah, the poise he showed, the clutch play that he showed. He didn't have the greatest weapons, you know, outside of Terry McLaren. So he is a special quarterback, best rookie season we've ever seen. I put him at five. All right, let's pivot to the NBA, Brew.

Before we get to LeBron, I know he's your guy. You've known LeBron in his camp forever. I want to start with Cooper Flagg. There's a lot of doubters. I heard some people say, hey, he could be Andre Kirillinko in the pros. I was like, come on, guys. Sorry, Baron Davis. That's not happening.

They didn't shut down Andre Carolinko after two summer league games. But Cooper Flag is going to be the truth. I said he could be a Kevin Garnett type player, obviously not the MVP right out of the gate. But I love the defense, the handle, everything about his game, just scream superstar. Where are you on Cooper Flag after two summer league games? Well, I think he'll be a better score than Garnett. Like, offensively, he can do it all. He can shoot the three.

He's got the mid-range shot. He can post a little bit, and I think we'll post better as his career goes on. He can lead the fast break, can obviously take it to the hole and dunk. So he can do, I think his offensive package is way better than Garnett's, you know, when you, you know, you compare those two. But I think he can be a superstar. Like his ceiling is superstar MVP candidate, you know, and maybe winning it a time or two. I'm not saying he'll definitely be there.

What I have said is he's definitely a star. The question is, will he be a superstar? And I get that he struggled in the first game in the summer league. Where he really struggled was just that his shot wasn't falling. Yeah. You know, he did everything else well. He led the break. He obviously had the big defensive play and the assist while leading the break at the end of the game to win it.

And then I, you know what I like, Jay Mack? He knew. He said it was, I think it's, worst game or one of his worst games of his life, right? What does he do? I like the fact that he clearly looked in the mirror, was upset with himself, and then goes out the next night and scores half of his team's points with 31. Like that shows a dog, and people have questioned that, like wondered, does he have that in him? Will he take over? Does he let the game come to him too much. In that game, too, in the summer league, he took over, and I like the way he responded

to a disappointing game one. So, yeah, I think he is the truth and great, great luck and fortune for the Dallas Maver's. Yeah, yeah, fortune favors the bold. I think something nonsense, Niko Harrison said. Let me just ask you, this just came to me listening to you gas up flag. Seems like we're on the same page. I'm going to ask you, Chris, if you're building an NBA team and I said next seven years, you've got him locked up. Are you taking Cooper Flag or SGA? SGA. Oh, stop it.

Stop it. Stop it. Yeah. We don't know that Cooper Flag will ever, and as much as I like him, will ever be the number one player and lead a team to a championship. That's totally up in the air. And SGA has done it at the age of 26. Oh, by the way,

doing it with the second youngest team ever to win an NBA championship? No, and here's the other thing, Jay Mack. SGA still has plenty of room to grow. His three-point shot is nowhere near where it will be over the next two, three, four years. So he can get even better. Wow. And so there's no question.

And look, flag looks like it'll be a good defender, but SGA also plays defense. Like, no, no question. SGA all day. Wow, that's a surprise. Honestly, I would take like six or seven guys over SGA. Wembenyama, I would take over SGA. Well, yeah, Wimby, okay. I'm not putting Cooper flag in Wimby's tier.

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I asked Rick Buecker, over under one and a half MVP's for Cooper Flagg in his career. I took the over. Well, here's a look. I said it, the ceiling for Cooper Flag is superstar. The ceiling. I'm not predicting this.

But the ceiling for Victor Wimbanyama is goat. That's the ceiling. He can't be the goat. Is that what you're telling you? He can't be to go. How many guys are you saying could be the go? Him, who else right now are we looking at? I know people are.

I disagree. But I do think, given what he's a comment, through his first six or seven seasons. I think Luca Donchich could be in the goat. His numbers are going to be there for sure. The defense isn't there. The defense isn't there. But you know what?

He's going to lock in this year. LeBron, Jordan, they were great defenders, obviously, win Benyama. So when you talk about goat, you nitpick, and that would be a knit to pick on Luca. Yeah, no, the defense is not quite there. By the way, let's talk about Luca and the Lakers. Luca's getting a little skinnier. By the way, do you believe this? Luca's thin, and he's the, are you believing this based on pictures, seeing Luca

at a Jordan party and, you know, Greece or wherever he was over the weekend? He did look. He did look awfully thin. I mean, it was noticeably. But I'm not going to. I don't know. He's looked good in the, you know, in the summers before, right? We've looked at him. Oh, wow. Luca's slimming down. But I will say this. I mean, obviously playing with LeBron James may change your perspective for a positive, right? You look at the way LeBron works. You look at him doing what he's doing at 4.4. years old and you may be I would think a competitor would say man I'm going to start doing some of that stuff so that could be good for Luca and also he is entering that like you talked about

what he's done over the first six years of his career and he's been phenomenal I love Luca but doesn't yet have an MVP and obviously doesn't have a championship and so he is now at that stage uh j Mac where until he wins a ring there is going to be a a little bit of criticism of him. Like people will give him love, don't get me wrong, but it'll be like, okay, when you're going to win? And they've all faced it. Jordan, LeBron, everyone who has taken several years to win

as probably the best player or one of the best players in the league, starts to get that criticism, and that can spark you to work harder. And so I think this could be good for Luke. He's getting a little bit of criticism. And so now I think that can spark him to work. Work harder on defense, work harder on his body, and come back as an even better player. Yeah, I'm trying to look it up, Bru, but it looks like LeBron and Jordan both won their first title at 27.

Is that accurate? Right around there? So Luca's like right in line with that. It's not a big, it's not a race. Just you can get the first title. It's a marathon. And watching Luca work, again, I know people don't like when I hear putting Luca on the goat, but he makes everyone around him better. The way Magic did, the way LeBron did, the way Yokic did.

Does different from magic. Here's why. Certain players he does make better. And same with LeBron. They make certain players better. But because this is when LeBron was in his prime. Because they are so ball dominant, it is tough to fit pieces around them. Right.

You have to fit the right pieces around. Like magic was different. Magic was such a great playmaker that everyone on the team could be the best version of themselves. You haven't seen that with LeBron through his career. or Luca through his career. And that's just the ball-dominant era. Some of these guys are just too ball-dominant. But Luca is phenomenal, obviously.

And so I'm just pointing that out. Ball-dominate, like the free-throw merchant SGA. Anyways, let's quickly go. So I took some heat on Friday for D'Andre Aiton. Listen, statistically, just statistically, for seven years, averaging 15 and 10 and shooting 50%. He's in a class. Listen, that's pretty good for centers,

especially in this era where it's not really, they're not getting the ball as much. So I think Aiton is a steal at $8 million. When you consider Rudy Gober's at like 35 mil, I would take Aiton at 8 mil over him. However, it's DeAndre Aiton. He was a malcontent in Portland. He was kind of lazy in Phoenix.

Do you think he can turn it around playing with Luca and LeBron? Yeah, I'm with you on that. Now, I don't know how far you went. You were talking about a class you put him in. What class did you actually put in it? So the guys who were 15, 10, and 50% shooting are centers like Janice and Yokic and elite guys. And again, statistically, he's in that. He's not in that level.

But he's not as good as nobody would say that. Come on. What other than you, apparently. But look, I, I, otherwise, otherwise, beyond saying he's with Janice and Yokic, I'm with you. All right. I agree. I think I don't understand why certain people have panned this move to get DeAndre Aidan.

It's ridiculous. People love the Mark Williams acquisition, right? That they obviously kill. He's better than Mark Williams. Statistically and period. Okay. He's going to be a great fit with Luca. He obviously will be great on the lives from Luca.

And then he's got the short mid-range shot that is darn near automatic. I mean, he really is good at that. level. What I want to see from DeAndre Aiton, his problem has really been his attitude, moodiness, his motor or lack thereof at times. I want to see him say, look, I'm playing with the best player of this generation and another guy that could be the best player of his generation. And Luca, we have a chance to do something special. I'm giving my all on the defensive end and then don't be so moody. Again, like Luca, learn from LeBron is example. And I agree with you.

I think it was a great move by the Lakers. I'm not saying it puts them over the top to win the championship, but I think it was a great move. And look, they're right there. I think right now you would say, OKC, Denver, Houston, and Minnesota are better than the Lakers. But the Lakers are good enough where there's hope. Like, they should go out there.

Like, we have hope that we can do something special this year. If the Lakers get Bradley Bield, they're the favorites in the West. Let's quickly go to LeBron. Oh, no. Stop that. Let's go to LeBron. I have to ask you about this. You know this guy as well as anybody. He's been leaving breadcrumbs on social media for a couple weeks now. He's using Rich Paul to get his thing out that he's not happy with the Lakers. Not really feeling the love from Polinka and company. They're showering Luca. Please tell the audience there's zero chance LeBron's getting traded. Zero. They're not. I won't say zero, but I am with you. I don't think he's getting traded. I think he starts the season with the Lakers.

Now, if for some reason it goes terrible, would they try to move him at the deadline, maybe get him to a team with a chance to do something in the playoffs? Yeah, something like that. But I don't see it going terrible, right? They were 15 and 8 with LeBron and Luca last year. And J-Mack, the teams they beat. They beat Houston twice. They beat Denver twice.

They beat Oklahoma City. They beat New York. They beat Indiana. Like, those 15 wins weren't against chunk change. Like, they were playing good basketball. And that was on the fly, right? That was with a roster not built around Luca. It was on the fly.

LeBron had to all of a sudden adjust to being the second guy offensively. And they still played good basketball. So you would expect them to be better. You know, JJ Reddick has spent all offseason trying to figure out what's the best way to maximize LeBron and Luca and the other parts together. You add a good center in DeAndre Aiton that you didn't have a year ago. Like, again, I'm not predicting at this moment that they're going to win the championship.

But if I'm the Lakers, I'm saying we are one of a handful of teams with two all-MBA-level players in Luca and LeBron. And we've got a good cast of role players. Now, they need more athleticism on the wing. They need more shooting. But they're good enough where you can. As I said, you should go into this season hopeful. So look, if I could get, and this isn't even possible because of the second apron rules and stuff.

But if I could get like Darius Garland and Jared Allen? No, absolutely. For LeBron, I would do if I'm like now, you have Aiton so you may not need Allen. Those contracts are bad. That type of package. No, but those are guys that can play off Luca in the future and the present. See, Darius Garland, I think, would be good off Luca because he can shoot. And then obviously, Allen with the defense and finishing at the rim off Luca would be good.

So I'm looking at them as guys that would help be good in the present and beyond. So I would do that. But again, that's not even possible. So I don't see, yeah, I don't see the Lakers moving. When the sons get rid of Bradley Beale, the Lakers can get it for $5 million. Bradley Beal is the missing piece. You can just go ahead and get the parade ready for the Lakers if they get Bradley B. I am not nearly as high.

And I'm like, Bill, first of all, I'm not sure they'd even get Bill. You know, obviously he's going to have a lot of options. But I don't know that he wants to go there and be at best the third banana. Like he would come off the bench, right? So? You want to win? I don't know that. I'm not sure I haven't talked to.

I don't know that he wants to do that, though. So it might be attitude issues. I just don't see that. Maybe a nice pickup if you can get him. and he's got the right attitude. My main man, Chris Bussard, he's on first things first after this. Brue, anytime you want to lose an NBA battle, just holler at your boy. We'll chop it up, man.

Have a great sum of my man. I won't tell the audience, we used to have a whole segment on my podcast where I beat you down. It was literally called Knock Down J and you were Jail. So what are we talking about? Broussard's a man. All right. Coming up next year on the herd, what are the sons doing, Bradley Biel? And I got a guest who you are going to love to talk about Kyler Murray,

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We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. back here on the herd. All right, our next guest is a guy I've known for a couple years now, good basketball player, but also he's really carved out a niche as like Mr. Arizona Sports. Benjamin Garcia joining the herd, host of the Locked-on Suns podcast. I've known Ben for a while. He does great social media stuff. Ben, I don't know if you heard me chopping it up with Chris Bouchard, but I'm bullish on Bradley Beale getting bought out, waved and stretched like Damien Lillard, and joining my Lakers out here.

I think it would be a boon. Where are you on Bradley Beal having watched him the last few years in Arizona? Well, Bradley Beal has been someone who, to his defense, has been very accommodating to what the Phoenix Suns have wanted him to be. He's taken the third option. He's taken more three-point shots. In that instance, Bradley Beal is a good team player. But you're asking him now to go over to the Lakers and be this pesky defender. The issue with the Lakers is not scoring.

They've got LeBron, they've got Luca, Austin Reeves. What they don't need is another person who's an anchor defensively in a bad way, meaning you're going to stick a starting five out there of DeAndre Aten, Bradley Beale, Luca Donchich, LeBron James. Tell me which one of those guys is scaring anyone on a night in a night out basis. I actually think it is, that would be, I mean, career malpractice for Bradley Beal to go over to a team, which he was just on one of those teams. thought if you add more scoring power, more volume to him,

then this team would be awesome. We'll just outscore everyone. Take it from someone who has covered the Phoenix Suns on a night-in-night-out basis. Having more offense isn't always necessarily a good thing. And I would look at the Oklahoma City Thunder who pushed teams around the entire time. I think it's absolutely crazy. There are two teams that make sense, the bucks, the clippers, maybe recreate Norman Powell and the aggregate money ball style with C.P. and Bradley Beal.

but the Lakers, Jason, come on now. Hey, you got to get $5 million. He's a major deal. Hey, let me quickly on Aiton. How were your dealing with DeAndre Aiton covering the TV? Is this guy a malcontent? We know Kevin Durant doesn't like you, doesn't like me. He gets very upset with people.

But what about Aiton? Does he hear all this noise? Is he kind of an issue? Aiton is, if Aiton had the same presence as Kevin Durant did offensively or as a basketball player at all, he would be seen as someone else that has proceeded. is quote unquote sensitive. DeAndre Aden talks a lot of game, talks about how he's dominating,

he's going to go in and he's going to dunk on everyone, he's going to hit elbow jumpers. And then it comes to game time. There are multiple instances where one thing that got back to me is the game two against the Denver Nuggets years ago where he's just standing around, watching Nicole Yolkich and Kevin Durant fight for a rebound.

That is the epitome of DeAndreidon. No one thinks he's not incredibly talented. And when you look at the statistics for like 15 and 10. I'm Jason Maginty. I think he's the next Nicole Yokic. But that's nonsense. He is a middle of the pack.

I mean, let's forget about that. Jason, after one year of the D'Andre Aten experience in Portland, what did they do? They went and drafted his replacement, Donovan Klingin. Two years later, they said, you know what? We would rather just pay you to leave. It is a desperate move by the Lakers to go get Diannayden. Maybe he's a good lob threat with Luca Dantzich

in that instance, but asking him to come in and be a defender, the biggest sell you could make is can D'Andreighton come in and be someone who, on a contract year is looking for that next big deal and turns it on for a year? We saw that happen in 2021 with the Sons. Outside of that, it's been more talk than actually doing the thing. And that's kind of where it goes with D'Andreate. All right, we got like two minutes left.

I'm curious. Kyler Murray, you and I have sparred on Kyler Murray versus Brock Purdy. ESPN had a list today at the top 10 quarter. from scouts, executives, and coaches. And Kyla Murray did not sniff the top 12. So I'm just curious, where are you on your boy, Kyler, and a make or break here? It's a maker break year for Kyla Murray in this instance.

Is he going to be back on the team next year, Maker Break? I don't think that's the case. He's got like a $60-plus million cap that you and I talked about this on my podcast before, where it's just so much money to move away from. We will know by the end of the year if Kyla Murray can be a consistent enough quarterback on a week-in-a-week-out basis to a point where he can help get you to a Super Bowl. Brock Purdy has been to a Super Bowl. Jalen Hertz won a Super Bowl.

Brock Pretty did it twice. It's about now, can you surround Kyla Murray with enough talent and not make him be the piece? Because what we've learned is when he's the piece, it's a recipe for likely disaster in the later parts of the season. But if you could surround a bunch of players around him talent-wise, like you did with Brock and Hertz, he can absolutely be that good. All right.

30 seconds, Ben. are the Arizona Cardinals going to make a wild card team in the NFC this season? Yeah, they better. This is a year where everyone talks about it. J.G. is Amani Austin, for it. Can people be on the hot seat? Could Kyler Murray be gone next year? Everyone's got a little bit of pressure on them.

The floor for this team is like nine wins, but you could talk me into the talent of this team, as well as all the other players surrounding them and the coaching staff, that this could be a conference championship level team. you two years ago, if I told you two years ago, Jason, the lowly lions and the Washington commanders are going to be in the conference championship game in back-to-back years, you'd call me crazy. You'd block my number.

You'd already kick me off the show. But since it happened, there is a potential for that to be the case. All right, Benjamin Garcia, great stuff. Love the show on YouTube. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the time, buddy. Thanks for having you, man. All right.

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