The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Chris Finch

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Minnesota Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch joins The Herd to talk about his team's series win over the Lakers, their matchup against the Golden State Warriors and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. To Fox Sports Radio. They not only beat the Lakers, they pushed them around. out-coached him, out-played them, had so much more dexterity offensively, a very impressive series, and now a totally different team, although they are a little longer on the tooth, but it's the Warriors, and Chris Finch, the head coach is now joining us. So it's weird because I once again feel like the Warriors are going to play a bigger, deeper team.

The difference is your bigs are old guys that have been around the block, and Houston is a much younger team. took advantage of their youth. How much do you even take from that Houston Warrior series? I mean, do you look at it in New York? We're just a different team. Yeah, I think we start there. I do think we are a different team. We have a different defensive philosophy. Of course, there's always things you can learn when you watch a series. And that series was very intriguing, very fascinating to watch. I mean, it was extremely physical.

I thought at the times it bordered on out of control. But, you know, given the amount of physicality that they're allowing in the playoffs, I think you can see the impact that it does have on a high functioning offense like Golden State. You know, you know you're going to have to be

physical with them. You've got to try to be disruptive and slow them down. But, you know, every team is built differently and every team has to play to their strengths. And, you know, what Houston was able to do may not be exactly what we're able to accomplish at the high level. So you have voice concerns.

You and Steve Kerr both said, this thing's out of control. It's physical. Yet, yet, that physicality was very disruptive to the Lakers. So as a coach, what do you look at and say to yourself, Chris, okay, that's out of control. Because J-Mack and I argue about this all the time. I love physical basketball.

He's a finesse guy over there jacking up threes. What do you look at? and go, okay, refs, time out, guys, get over here. That can't go. Yeah, I think, I think to be, to be clear, Colin, I think every coach in the NBA would, you know, welcomes in physicality. Actually embraces it. I think we all love physical basketball. I don't think that's what, you know, Steve or I are saying. Well, I think what we're saying is like it seems at times out of context, and in the first round of games, it seems out of context where it was, was actually affecting the basketball that was able to be played.

It didn't feel like, hey, we're just going to allow you to be more physical. While that was certainly going on, what it felt like is that they just decided to not call some amount of foul. Right, right. And that's different. You know, that is what leaves players and coaches frustrated. That's what leads to kind of things getting slightly out of control, if not completely out of control. So I said on the air I theorized, I said, when JJ rhetoric with an older LeBron and Luca and Austin Reeves, he was struggling when he decided to play his

starters. Whether you agree with it or not, I said, I bet Jeff Finch and his staff said, hey, let's just go bigger. We're going to go bigger with Rudy Gobert. Did that game and his decision, I mean, this whole series is all you guys are changing things, but it did feel like you came in with even a different game plan the next game after that game for decision. Was that part of it? Well, we've always leaned into being a big team. And when you have, you know, historically we've had, you know, Carl Anthony Towns or you have Rudy Gobert or you have Julius Randall

and Nas Reid's sixth man of the year, like these are some of your best players. And, you know, you're not just going to take them off the floor because somebody goes small. You have to find a way to maximize who you are and lean into those strengths. Yeah, there's going to be. times where you get a little bit exposed for it, but we've preached to Rudy ever since he got here that, you know, we need to be highly flexible with the things we're going to ask you to do through the regular season. So when it comes to the playoffs, you know, you can't be marginalized by teams just going small. And, you know, in that series, you know, Rudy just stayed patient

when they made some adjustments that allowed him to have the big game four. And, you know, he did a great job of just staying focused and calm and remaining the part of that series, even though at times, you know, he wasn't as impactful as he certainly was in that game five. So when you made the Julius Randall move, I didn't love it. I said he's not a great postseason player. I don't know if he fits. And then I didn't even like it when I watched it early in the year.

I'm like, I'm not sure if this works. And then all of a sudden I watch him late. the year and I watched him against the Lakers. I'm like, who's this? When did you know? And it's okay to admit that this league's a fit league with very few exceptions. When did you know, okay,

this is going to work, he's found his way with this offense and his touches? Yeah, we started to figure it out in mid-to-late December. That's when I started to see what we could possibly become, particularly

with Julius. And to be fair to Julius at times, we've asked him to do different things, and he's done that. It just may not have been the right thing. I told him early on, we need you to score, score, score. I thought that's what we were going to need. And what we really needed was just more of his all-around game, his playmaking and his scoring.

But when he started to kind of playmate for his teammates and be a point forward for us, I always point to a game in December we played at at Madison Square Garden we played the Knicks. It was as a return home game. You could imagine how emotionally charged that's going to be for him personally. I think he took three or four shots, Colin. But he just played an incredible all-around game, whether it be defense, rebounding, creating pace, creating first teammates with the pass, just doing all the little things. And to me, that was the moment. And I'll always point to that as kind of our.

team growing up and growing up around Julius and Julius realizing like this is what we need to win. We won that night. We won on Christmas Day, which was another big game for us. And we had been starting to play a little bit better. And he had a monster game on Christmas Day, both scoring and creating. So it's been an evolution. All these things always are. It's not always the player's fault. I was extremely happy and proud that he played so well in the Lakers. series because, you know, he has had some unfair criticism of his playoff performances. You know, those early Knicks teams, he didn't have a lot of help, let's say. So it's easy to game plan a guy out if he's really the only and dominant score.

So it gets hard for some of those guys at some point in time. So I know he was focused on having a great playoffs. He did so far. He's got off to a really good start. And, you know, we just love him. We love what he's brought here with his toughness, his physicality. He gave us a perfect LeBron match up in a lot of ways, which is what we needed. So he was huge.

So you guys didn't play the Warriors very well. You played him before the Jimmy Butler trade, but I remember one game in particular that, you know, Curry's running around crazy. And sometimes aunt or whoever's guarding him just get lost. He's running through screens. He's running all over the floor. And some of your guys are just like, if you don't pay attention to Steph Curry, he's in another continent. He's on the other side of the floor.

How much, what do you do? Like Houston said, okay, we're going to double the minute you get over half court, but then buddy heels wide open and buddy can shoot. By the way, now, Pods now is shooting with more confidence than he was 35, 40 games ago. So, I mean, what do you do, what do you do with Curry? Like, you just chase him all over the floor, or is there a reality that he's going to get his, and he's going to, you just can't chase him non-stop? Well, first of all, you know, all credit to Houston. They did one of the best jobs

I've seen it actually trying to take and succeed in some instances in games, taking him, you know, kind of out of the game. And that's very hard to do with any great player. Great players impact the game through a multitude of ways. It's not just their scoring, but it's also their gravity, their playmaking. Right. You know, their ability to distort your defense and just force you to make mistakes that you wouldn't normally make. I think, you know, Steph does all of that, and he does it with the constant energy and motion that you just referred to. It's not really, you know, you know when you're guarding Steph that you have to be on high alert and you know that you've got to put the work in, that's just one third of the battle.

The other two-third is just the continual nature, the locking in that, you know, as he moves around the floor and somebody else might now have to pick him up, they've got to now assume that level of focus and concentration. And that's not where we've been at our best. And, you know, you also know with him, you're going to have to live with some tough shots. You know, he's an incredible player. He's going to make tough shots.

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Good luck pushing Draymond Green around. He is a handful. Chris is always great seeing you. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it. You bet. Tea wolves are a fun story. Yeah, they played, but when they played, Jimmy Butler wasn't there, so it's a totally

different warrior team. Caminga is now done. Post will play more. Butler's obviously there. Pods is a better player than he was earlier in the year. But Julius Randall now is a different player than he was earlier in the year. So, I mean, you know what? People always talk about nobody watches NBA regular season basketball.

basketball, well, it's, I mean, baseball, hockey, college basketball. People watch big events in this country. But you can watch a lot of regular season basketball. Playoff basketball is just different. And when you play the same team over and over and over, guys know what Austin Reeves can and can't do. And they just, you have a limited repertoire of what you can do. Whereas a guy like Curry has fundamentally so many things he can do that you can't

stop him. So when you kind of a one or a two-dimensional player and you don't have a ton of athletic gifts, I think you're easier to defend. That's why Westbrook can flourish in the postseason because he does so many things, and LeBron flourishes in the postseason. And by the way, Draymond Green can flourish in the postseason. He can defend. He can be a catalyst. He can be a connected passer. He can shoot an occasional three. He can be a bully. And when you're playing the same guys over and over, you've got to have a lot of cards in the the deck. You got to be able to do a lot. That's why Yokic is such a great playoff player. He can beat you so many different ways. J. Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's get started with Shadur Sanders. Colin, so, you know, he had met with the New York Giants, and according to Albert Breer, Shadur was given a mock playbook install with errors on purpose. Sure. Shadur did not catch them and got called out on it. According to the New York Post, Shadur and the Giants were unhappy. Shadur came out of the meeting, pissed,

and Brian Dable didn't appreciate Shadur's reaction. Now, this is interesting. This is the equivalent of what? A teacher giving a test with spelling errors, and you've got to catch them? No, because a teacher, you're not an employee or a student. He's not an employee of the New York Giants. Well, he's angling to be an employee.

If I was interviewing. you for a job. And I'm like, I'm going to see if this guy pays attention. And I said, you know, my favorite player is Amaran St. Brown of the Bears, and you'd go Packers, or you'd go Lions. And I'd throw it out there just to test you. I'd say, man, I'd tell you that, I love a Men Thompson of the Orlando Magic. And you'd be, he plays for the Rockets. And I just want to see. Well, I like sports, so this is not a problem. Well, no, no, no. And he likes football. Right. So you'd think he would know it. It's not. It's not student teacher.

It's employer and potential employee, and I'm going to test you. Yeah. When I interviewed for another company, they threw some, well, 78-mile-an-hour sliders, and I hit them out of the park. But the point being is they're testing you. Yeah. They're sinking millions of dollars into first-st-round quarterbacks. I have no problem with this. I have no problem.

And again, it's quarterback. Quarterback's different. The fact that, you know, the kid that grew up was, you know, in a wealthy family, like, oh. I mean, I would say if you grow up like Shadoor where you had some money around you in life or Arch Manning. So Arch Manning's grown up in a world of comfort compared to the rest of us or a Brony James. I think one of the things you wonder, if I was interviewing Arch Manning, I'd think, well, he grew up with comfort. I'm going to make him uncomfortable and see how he reacts. Is he short-tempered?

Is he, you know what I mean? Like, test him on, is Archmanning capable? Uh-oh, duress, life's not planned. You don't have great protection at Texas anymore and five-star receivers. So I think that stuff's all fair game. How much of this has to do with Kyler Marie a couple years ago getting a computer with, hey, here's film of our opponent coming up.

and he didn't watch it ever. And I just wonder if that lack of like, hey, I got this. I'm a super star. There's a lot of guys out there. And I wonder if the Giants are like, listen, we have concerns about this dude. He might be well-liked, but is he going to put in the work? I don't know the answer to that. Nobody is.

The NFL quarterback for years and years, I used to talk about this all the time, is that it was amazing that many of the great quarterbacks, Big Ben from Miami of Ohio, Aaron Rogers, Junior College, Cowell. Even now, Josh Allen, Wyoming. Mahomes at a non-football power. Why is that? Matt Ryan, Boston College.

Very few Peyton Mannings, number one high school, number one college, number one NFL. Why? Because NFL quarterback is all about discomfort. Hell, practice is hard in the NFL. So if you've lived a life of comfort, oh, I was a five-star guy that went to Alabama. I never got stacked. I had a great run game. I played in a lead.

That's not the NFL. The NFL is, I mean, what the NFL is is Mahomes. I've got to drop 55 or we lose again. It's Josh Lamar Jackson, Louisville. Okay, we're playing Clemson. They got better players. So if you look at a lot of these NFL quarterbacks, it wasn't a comfortable life. They were overlooked.

They had to fight for their starting job. So I think, Shadur Sanders, you're like, listen, this kid's, of a pretty comfortable life. Let's make him a little uncomfortable and see if he catches it. It'd be one thing if you didn't catch it. But to not catch it and then react. And plain. That is a deal breaker for that position.

By the way, shout out to Breer. This is the kind of stuff that not a lot of people are going to report because you don't want to damage friendships with the Giants or Deon. Breer just, that's a big scoop. I like this story a lot. I think there's a lot of meat on that boat. It's a fascinating one from the Giants and Shudor's perspective. It doesn't mean Shadur can't succeed now.

This is a wake-up call, I think, for sure. Yeah. Next up is the Miami Dolphins have been open about looking to trade Jailen Ramsey. And it sounds like the Rams could be looking at a reunion with their former cornerback, who I called a pile inspector once. Well, they got two-fives, two-sixes, two-sevens, two-ones. They're not trading a one. Of course not.

Here's what McVeigh said regarding Jalen Ramsey. He is a total stud. And you look at, obviously, he's continued to play at a really high level, special competitor. great person, great father. And so there are a lot of layers when you're talking about a player of his caliber. With regards to the contract, the compensation that they would be looking for in exchange for receiving a player of his magnitude. And so those conversations are ongoing, as I'm sure they are, with multiple teams.

I give up a fifth round pick for him because I got to pay him. I got two fives. I don't know. My take on Jalen Ramsey, So the Rams did not draft the corner in this draft, which was the kind of strange move. They can also pick up somebody at some point. It was the only thing about their draft they didn't like. They need another corner.

They're thin there, and I think they know it. So in addition, this is just breaking right now. Ian Rappaport is reporting. The Rams and Stafford have finally finalized terms on his new deal. How long? According to Rappaport, Stafford will earn, this is an interesting number. I'm just going to put the name out there, Brock Purdy. Stafford will earn 44 million this year.

Four million already paid and the other 40 million guaranteed. Yeah. 44 million for Matt Stafford. That's a team-friendly deal. Yeah. And by the way, Brock Purdy not in the same class wants 58. Yeah, no thanks. That is.

I told you the reason the Rams over the last two years have elevated over the Niners, they are better upstairs. They are not handing out money. They are drafting better. and they are much more disciplined. The Niners handed out too much candy to all the kids. Halloween, everybody gets Kit Kat-bar. Well, it started with the Iyuk's deal.

That was, he's got to turn it around. That Stafford number is very interesting in the division. Stafford's got a Super Bowl. He was the number one overall pick. He was a stud. This is the advantage to Sean McVeigh. You can say, well, you could leave, but you don't get McVeigh. Well, Stafford would have a market.

A bigger market than Purdy. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Play Pittsburgh. Well, that offensive line and that culture. Or you get McBey and Stan Cronkey. Pooka Nakua, a great defense where nobody can score. I'm telling you that ram defense next year?

Well, wait a minute. Lights out. The Rams are a Super Bowl team with Matt Stafford. If he moves on, they're not sniffing the Super Bowl. So it goes both ways. Wait a minute. What are you saying? Jimmy Garapolo still could put this roster in Super Bowl?

No, I'm saying it's mutually beneficial. So Matt, let's get you another ring. at 58, we're going to have to let go guys. At 44 or not? Because the Rams have drafted so well the last two years that that defense now is free. Now, you could also counter Stafford, not that we're looking at his pockets,

he's made a ton of money being a number on-pick, multiple contracts. Purdy's still searching for it after making like $800,000 last year or whatever the number was. You know I'm not anti-Purdy. I'm anti-Purdy at 54. 54 is the line. I'm 52, I'm fine.

No, I mean, if you give me purdy at 38 to 41, I can live with me. There's no way he's taking less than what Daniel Jones got. And that's, they shouldn't ask him. Well, final story, WNBA, Caitlin Clark. Colin, this was a preseason game. It was a two-hour wait to get into the arena in Iowa. Caitlin Clark had 16 and 5, dropped a 36-foot 3. I mean, she was cooking.

I'm just telling you right now, Indiana Fever are, I think they have the second best odds to win the title. they had a good off season. Here's Caitlin Clark on returning to Iowa. I felt good. It was fun to get out there. I haven't played basketball in over like 200 days. So I was a little, you know, nervous going into it. I don't get nervous, but nervous just because, you know,

I haven't been able to play basketball in a really long time. And a competitive spirit in me, like, you just want to play really good for these fans. And once you get into the flow of it, you knock some rust off, and it'll be the same when we go to Atlanta next week. Just continue to build, continue to build. and hopefully by, you know, game one, you're ready to go. Yeah. Halliburton and Caitlin Clark, pretty good back courts.

By the way, so two things. After the game, I don't know if you've seen this video, the Brazilian players came up and were like, Caitlin, can you sign my jersey and shorts? And they're wearing, here it is, here it is. They're wearing the shorts and asking Caitlin Clark to sign it. That was the team that just played. That was like Michael Jordan in the Dream Team Olympics.

Remember where the opponents would come up? So the tickets for this sold out in 24 minutes, the average price was $440. I'm telling you, it's Taylor Swift, man. This is unbelievable. It's unprecedented. They will beat. These WNBA fever ratings this year, watch them beat like other major sport. You know, we should go when they play the sparks out here?

We should go to the game. I'd go to the game. And then we get to meet Caitlin Clark afterward? Can you make that happen? Well, I tend to pay for my own tickets. Stop. And not be a disruptor. I like to go subtly.

There's no reason for me. Yeah, there is. You want hand out. It's Caitlin Clark. You just said she's Taylor Swift. She is. So you want to meet Taylor Swift? Do you don't want to meet Caitlin Clark?

Caitlin Clark is going to have a million people that want to meet. Yeah, but you're Colin Cowherd, man. Yeah. I think she does. I think she got bigger stars than me. Well, my daughter would be thrilled if you made that happen. Anyways, also, you mentioned, I should, Tyrese Halliburton, Caitlin Clark in Indiana.

I asked one of the producer. The Gonzaga guard. The other guy they have. Oh, Nemhart, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Real quick. Halliburton or Cade cutting in? That's tough.

Well, Cades, I think, will be a more gifted. They're both great. Yeah, that's a tough one. I'll let it marinate for the next day. Maybe a trade happens. They play together. Cade is good. I feel bad for the Knicks.

Once Detroit now is going to get run. Here's the thing. Indiana and Detroit. All you look at is a Nick fan is, ooh, Celtics, Cavs. You watch in Indiana? They're good. I like them. They're not just good.

I said they were conference finals before the season. You can look that up. No, they're also fun to watch. By the way, I did have the wolves in the championship. I swear, it was my pick before the season. It looked dumb for like 60 games. Now it looked like a genius. I wouldn't go that far.

Jamack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. man there's things there's things developing here hold on one second folks by the way when the brock pretty deal becomes official

is that going to be like a two-hour bananza for you no i know what the numbers i mean again i'll just say to all you nineer fans the rams would get him at 40 million let's see what the niners get him out that's what the rams would get him at the rams would say mcvay stan cronkey do better go to the market carolina may have an opening I mean, to get Stafford for 44 is a pretty good indicator that the Rams are like, listen, this is a Super Bowl team.

You don't have to play here. Pittsburgh's got an opening. This is Super Bowl team. Let's all do this together. Super Bowl team with you, Matt Stafford. Without you, it falls apart. Stafford, you're not winning it without McVeigh. It goes both ways.

44 million is a lot of money. What do you have against Mike Tomlin? He's got a Super Bowl ring. I think he has as many Super Bowls as Mr. McVeigh. 2025. Maybe more. Which franchise is dialed in offensively? Well, that's fair.

Okay. Steelers have so much money on defense, they're limited offensively. And I can like Tomlin, but Tomlin has not delivered in the last decade. I'm looking at it here. Tomlin has not won a playoff game. It's like eight years. Eight years. And for the record, during that time, he's had a great defense.

So it's not like he's got a bad roster. He's like continuity, good ownership, solid GMing, excellent defense, hasn't won a playoff game. I'm not looking to peel off four of them. How about one? So, I know, I think the Rams would get Purdy at 40. The smart move is the Niners, Inc. A $55 million deal with Purdy, the day before the schedule comes out, and everybody's off Purdy at a day talking about the schedule, right?

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Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call. about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just found out next Wednesday is NFL a schedule release day. I don't know. I'll be dizzy. I'll be doing these schedules here. It's thought of my mock drafts as usual. The other thing is, will the Pittsburgh Steelers be left at the altar with Aaron Rogers? They don't have a starting quarterback.

They drafted Will Howard, Mason Rudolph? Those feel like backups. Will they be left at the altar? Matt Hasselbeck said, I said, what's the bottom line date? What's the latest you could get there? if you were Aaron Rogers. Phase three, I think, is really important. So for the Pittsburgh Steelers, I believe that's May 27.

May 27th is the start of phase three. They also have a mandatory minicamp, which would technically be June 10th. So, you know, when is the day that I need to, like, all of a sudden go from speaking Spanish to speaking French? It's not really until week one of the NFL season because of who you are. You're Aaron Rogers.

You'll figure it out. You can speak enough to get by. But to me, I think I'm, I would circle that May 27th date as a date that, like, it would really be detrimental to be starting the missing time at that point. Okay, so I was thinking about this, and my memory is not serving me. So I generally, after the coaching hires and free agency, I give you my first iteration of my NFL predictions. I didn't give my post-draft predictions, did I? So now we've had all the coaching changes, all the free agency moves, and the draft.

Have I given a draft? I don't think I have. Because I wait for the coaching changes in free agency, and I say, okay, you know, like I said before that, I said, New England, between Vrable from Jared Maita and $200 million in free agency, that's a totally different team. So I think tomorrow we'll do that at the top of the 10. okay now we've got new coaching staffs free agency and like Seattle got three starters

minimum out of that draft like at key spots and Jalen Millroll will play so I think we need to do and then we won't do another one until it's almost like right

like training camp so I think yeah and then we do a final one on training camp injuries right before the so we have three left. Tomorrow I think we'll do one. I'll line it up because I didn't love I got to tell you a team that I'm just struggling with is the 49ers.

I didn't love their draft. They lost Hufunga and Greenlaw, essential parts of the defense. I thought their draft, they got better on the D-line. That's indisputable, but I don't love their offensive line and they're going to have to be pretty a boatload and they're not as good in the secondary.

And they've been hit and miss on, they don't draft as well as the the last several years. So I think I'm pretty close. I don't know. I'd argue this window with them with cheap quarterbacks on team-friendly deals. If this number gets up into the 50s or high 40s, I don't see it. I don't see it. The other thing, you got an opinion on that?

I was just going to say, I'm looking at the Niners secondary. What is going on here? Shrey Brown and Renardo Green are their cornerbacks. I don't, that's not good. Colin, this is this defense. Let me tell you something. Something crazy happens every year. I don't want to bet against Kyle Shanahan, though.

I think that is risky. Every other year, they've struggled. So last year they struggled, they're going to bounce back. Let me throw this at you. You know who the two best drafts, there's an argument. There were Seattle and Arizona. Arizona's on the come up. Arizona's defense is going to be nasty.

But is Kyler Murray, does he give you any? confidence because I didn't see it last year. He really hurt them. But they got McBride, Harrison, Connor. That's a good trio. They got better skill position guys than the Cowboys. Not even close. No, their draft, their defensive coach just said, we're going defense.

The Seahawks did the opposite. They got better with Darnold. They went and got a tight end. I mean, Seattle's last in that division. San Francisco. Oh, stop. No way. If Purdy and McCaffrey are healthy, there's no way. I'll make an argument next year. What if I told you?

year has a weird vibe. Like last year was the year of the rookie quarterback. Jaden Daniels gets to the NFC championship. Bo Nix makes the playoffs. You're like, these guys are good. Drake May. Oh, they found their Justin Herbert. What if next year in the NFL is the year of big brands finishing fourth, the Dallas Cowboys, the 49ers, the Pittsburgh Steelers? That's a hot take. You just come up with that on the fly? Yeah, this thing never shuts off. No, I think that the year of the big brands bottoming out. I'm sorry. Chicago Bears, do they qualify?

No, because they haven't been winning. How about this? Green Bay. Detroit's got the best roster. You know I like Minnesota, but Green Bay's not a bad ad there. Oh, okay. Just because your last doesn't mean you don't have players. They could be eight and nine in the last.

No question. I mean, last year, at the end of the year, Jordan, Love was all over the map. He was not great. Now I got Dak Prescott in Dallas off a second surgery, and he's now just a pocket quarterback. Dak's not a great pocket quarterback. In San Francisco, I think Seattle and the Cardinals had great off-season.

And you love the Rams. Well, I think the Rams are, they were a 15-yard line to end up to the NFC champion. By the way, you haven't picked your AFC team to face the Rams in the Super Bowl yet. No, and Rams are NFC. You haven't picked your AFC. Come on, say it. Bubba, Buffalo! Yeah, baby.

Bill's Mafia? It ain't going to be the Chiefs. My B was Baltimore. Okay, you can't go wrong with L'Orgham. Baltimore and the Rams. Lamar Chiefs, love it. No, I don't, I've told you, I think the Chiefs are a wildcard team. That division now?

If they're lucky. If Ashton Gentie gives them the running game, we think, and the Raiders are predicted for fourth is a great fourth. Think about this. Last year, bad at quarterback, didn't have the coaching staff, gave the Chiefs outplayed him, I could argue, both times they played. How was Nick going to handle this if LeBron bounced in the first round and the Chiefs don't even make the playoffs? Is he going to be okay? Nick's life is great. He can handle his Chiefs missing the playoffs. Because you know, nobody stays on top forever.

I think the NFL tends to be a little bit more predictable than we think. Like we know in baseball there are certain payrolls that are going to make the playoffs, and we know in the NBA there are certain rosters that will. They're about, I mean, AFC is pretty easy to predict. Andy Reed and Mahomes will figure out a way to get in, but they're not going 11 and 0 in one score games. If they go 7 and 4, you'd take it today. Oh, hell, yeah.

We'll see you tomorrow. Hey, guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast. Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know...

Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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