The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Chris Simms

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

Colin is extremely excited about Sam Darnold's future with the Vikings  Chris Simms joins the show to talk about the upcoming NFL season and the biggest storiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy... information.

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Starting point is 00:02:45 Several years ago, I may have been 6'7, whenever it was. Sam Darnold, Baker-Mayfield came out in the same class. And I said, I'm a Darnold guy over a Baker guy. I like both. I thought Baker was, should have been a second-round pick. Darnold, I like more, bigger, stronger, more athletic coming out of college. And I was kind of right on Baker.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Let's be honest about it. Like the stuff that I said would get him in trouble, the hookspah, the arrogance. Now he's grown up a lot. I'm very, very happy for him. I said, I'm Tampa. I'd absolutely sign him. I know a situation privately where Baker was a wonderful human being. It's not gotten any publicity, but he did something that was really, really wonderful.
Starting point is 00:03:25 With somebody I know, I like Baker. I think Baker's a good guy. really do. I think he's a good guy and Emily, beautiful couple, but I was kind of right on some of the stuff. Darnold, I've always been seen as, I'm just some goofball, don't know what I'm talking about. If Darnold now has won,
Starting point is 00:03:41 you know, again, just through practice, he's number one on the depth chart. If he goes on like a six-game heater this year, I'm going to be incorrigible. You will not want to even pass me on the street. Because I didn't want to rub it in with Baker because Baker was struggling at one point, and I thought I don't want to be, you know, cheer for the fact that he's going, you know, he's struggling.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But Sam winning, I'd be cheering for somebody who is elevating above what you thought he was. So I'm just saying this is the first time he's got a solid organization, an excellent head coach, and really good weapons. How good will Sam be? I don't know. The division's excellent. But if he goes on a heater, you may want to take a few shows off. I'm going to be really obnoxious, more so than usual. Fifteen minutes, Chris Sims stops by.
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Starting point is 00:07:02 To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?
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Starting point is 00:08:43 26 and 6 will get to the Longhorns in the second. First of all, just, and I know this means nothing to the radio audience, but look, NBC is feeling themselves. They got the Olympics. Look at the lighting on Chris Sims. It's like a salon perfect hair. It's very Hollywood looking. Congratulations to you. Hey, thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You know, like I said to you in the break, I'm trying to be big time like you. And this is all because I'm in my house right now. And because of COVID, COVID really saved me here and gave me a nice little setup. So, yeah, I feel big time even when I'm at home. So good for you. We've been talking, Jay Mack and I have been talking about this. He brought this up about two months ago, and I thought it was interesting. We've heard of housing bubbles, Wall Street bubbles. And we've talked about like being wide receiver bubble right now, where nobody is disputing their valuable. But there's always been this one receiver, an OBJ, a T, O, and A B, and you start going Randy Moss, and it's like, yeah, the Patriots didn't win titles, and that's what it's about hoisting trophies. I like Brandon Ayuk. I like him a lot, a lot. But on that team, he may be the same. seventh to eighth most valuable player, maybe the second most talented. I could not write a check for $25 million annually for him. What say you? I agree with you there, right? I'm kind of shared the same opinion you do. I like Brandon Ayup. There's no doubt about it. He's talented. We know
Starting point is 00:10:07 he was a first round pick. He's got good size, right? He's a good route runner. But at the same time, I put guys like Jemar Chase, Tyree Kill, Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown in a different class than a guy like Brandon I.U. Yes, he's really good. But how much is it the team around him, like you explained? We all know defenses more than not are worried about Christian McCaffrey and what they're doing in the Shanahan running game, let alone I think you can also say how much do you put on Shanahan himself and how he gets receivers open wherever he goes and makes them look successful, no matter who he can. calls the place for at wide receiver. So yeah, I'm with you there. You know, I'm big more into, wait, can we line him up on the outside and can he beat man to man and run by the best corners in football on a consistent basis? Can he catch a slant and run 70, 80 yards like the guys I mentioned
Starting point is 00:11:01 previously? No, I don't think Brandon Ayuk's in that class. He's really damn good, but to me, not a superstar and special like some of those guys I mentioned. Okay, all these first round picks. Somebody brought this up to me a couple months ago. Caleb Williams defensive coach. Michael Pennick's defensive coach. Jaden Daniels defensive coach. Drake May defensive coach,
Starting point is 00:11:23 rookie. Bo Nix and J.J. McCarthy offensive coaches. And for young quarterbacks, that refinement, that voice is not a little thing. You think it's possible that
Starting point is 00:11:39 the quarterbacks at the top of this draft, scuff it up a little bit, and a Knicks or a McCarthy emerge, at least for the first couple years, as a little ahead of the class. Well, they certainly got an advantage to all the reasons you're talking about. First off, I mean, Sean Payton, we know it's one of the greatest offensive minds in history of football. So he's going to do it and make it all about the quarterback and make the quarterback look as good as he possibly can.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And Kevin O'Connell, certainly one of the top five offensive minds in the game right now. especially when it comes to the past game. So they're all about always focusing everything around the quarter, making the quarterback always look successful. Where some of those other guys you talked about, they might just worry about, hey, let's win the game. Let's be a little more careful on offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Right? Let's manage it that way because I'm a defense ahead coach. That's usually the MO of the defense ahead coaches. But I will remind you, the greatest quarterback duo we've ever seen in the history of football, Belich, and Tom Brady worked out okay. So let's not judge all of that off of that. But nonetheless, I think we're going to see all these rookies playing pretty early on in the season, if not from the start.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I think it's a very talented group. And I'm always one that's pro. Get them out there. Get them play. And that's the best experience you can get in the world. So I said earlier today I talked about perspective. Justin Fields still has a lot of support in the league. He may win the Pittsburgh job.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Daniel Jones, bum no good, get him out of here. if you go look at their NFL careers in every crucial quarterback stat. Daniel Jones is better. He's won a playoff game, and he's had a worse offensive line, and worse weapons. Now, I'm not saying either is lighting the world up, but the perception is Justin Fields deserves a second chance, and Daniel Jones, I can't believe he's starting. I want to talk about the Giants because the HBO series really put Daniel Jones in a weird spot.
Starting point is 00:13:39 his team didn't want him they tried to move up what you're right next to new york you're in connecticut what what you tell me does he have any support do you think truthfully in the building or with a fan base in new york i think there are fans that are the smart giant fans realize wait this guy's got some talent and i do think there is support in the building now i think there are some in the building there that are using him as a scapegoat right And I think, you know, hey, there's certainly certain fans that are out there and they just blame everything on the quarterback all the time. But, I mean, you make a lot of good points. And listen, if there was a two-minute drill at the end of the game, I'd rather have Daniel Jones and Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And we can't run the ball, right? And we have to rely on throwing the ball 40 times a game. I'd still rather have Daniel Jones. And let's not forget that Daniel Jones is a special runner, right? And the biggest thing, Colin, is what did anybody expect Daniel Jones to do last year? or most of his career. It's not like, oh, it's a bad offensive line. It's the worst offensive line in football he's been in front of.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They broke the record last year for sacks. And I would tell you, Daniel Jones got out of another 20 or 30 during the year. So, yes, I think Daniel Jones is underrated. I like Justin Fields. He's going in the right direction in a lot of areas. But I think the bears got rid of him because of some of the things we talked about. He still had to be managed. They didn't trust them in games where they had to throw the ball
Starting point is 00:15:06 and attack through the passing game, right? So those are things you don't have to worry about Daniel Jones. Let's see if Daniel Jones, let's see if the Giants, more importantly, can finally put a team and an offensive line in front of him that can truly allow his true talents to show. And I expect them to be better this year up front, and I think you'll see a pretty damn good Daniel Jones as well. So I can remember covering Oregon, the old Otson Stadium.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Then they put a, you know, a zillion dollars into the uniforms, the facilities and the new stadiums, and for a couple of years, they were prettier, but I didn't think they were as tough. They got a little soft. I mean, they led the world in facilities. Now Oregon's great. But I remember that.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It's like there was a certain work ethos with Oregon, and then they were the fancy school, and the stadium wasn't as loud. So Texas, my entire adult life, has been the glamour program. It's, I mean, the uniforms, it is just, I mean, they got lambos in the parking lot, And my takeaway is that as much as I love Texas football,
Starting point is 00:16:10 and I don't know why I didn't grow up with it, I just always, it just was cool. But I got to be honest, they underachieve a lot. And now I'm like, they may have the best roster in the sport. Maybe Ohio State is a little better. But my take is, don't they have to win 12 to 13 games this year? Like, period, no excuses. They even have two excellent quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I mean, agreed. Listen, they're on the up and up. We know that. The talent's real, right? I knew that last year. When they lined up in, what, week three or two last year against Alabama, that was the first time in a long time. I went, whoa, we looked apart, right? We don't have to trick it up or do anything. We look like we can stand toe to toe with Alabama. In fact, we look like we might be better. So we are back from that standpoint. Now, the things you bring up, they're real. I mean, listen. Listen, we underachieved when I was there, even though we were a top five team three years in a row. And, hey, maybe I was part of that underachieving and not playing good against Oklahoma. But, no, I will say in Texas, because the school does have so much money, the facilities are so great. You're the king of Texas and you're certainly the king of Austin. You get treated like you are an NFL superstar when you're good and you're playing for the Texas Longhorns. When I was in college there, Shanahan. Kyle Shannon, the coach of the 49ers used to laugh and go, they treat you like you're John Elway.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And I look at him and go, I know, it's crazy. But I do think Steve Sarkeesian has brought a toughness and an edge to the football team. And I think the team is legitimately super talented, like you explained. Now, the thing is, the biggest thing for me, them this year, we know the quarterback's good. They've got to replace some wide receivers and a new running back and all that. But it's going to be the schedule itself, the Big 12. come on, you know, Colin. It's a seven-on-seven conference the last 15, 12 years.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Now they're going to have to play week in and week out SEC type of football. I think that's going to be the biggest adjustment. We can't have a week of, oh, we didn't play our best, but, you know, so be it. It's just Iowa State. We'll still win the game somehow, some way. That can't happen now, and I think that's what they really got to get mentally ready for. Yeah, I see a lot of Ws on that schedule. Chris Sims, one of my faves.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Say hi to your dad. I'll be watching those Giants preseason games. If somehow I can pick it up on the satellite. Could see you, buddy. You too. Thanks, buddy. You'll figure it out. You've got enough money.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You'll get it on the satellite. Come on. What are we talking about here? Chris Sims. No, that schedule's got Georgia right in the middle of it. There's a lot of Ws there. There are a lot of Ws. And a lot of LAMBOS on that campus suddenly.
Starting point is 00:19:00 J-MAC with the news. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Starting with college football, this is one of the cooler stories I've heard this summer. So Florida International University announced an unprecedented partnership with the rapper Pitbull today. Mr. International. He signed a five-year $6 million agreement, including the naming rights to the stadium.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So FIU will now play their games at Pitbull Stadium, okay? The first ever athletics venue with an artist possessing the. naming rights. So Colin, some of the details are trickling out. This is very cool and smart. Is it very savvy of him? Now, will that be his venue? Like, I mean, in Florida, could he go perform there all the time? Oh, yeah. He could do halftimes. He could do post games. He can basically make FIU football kind of a cool brand. How about this? I will do two concerts a year. I don't have to lease or pay, and it's all profit. Exactly. I'll give you the naming rights. You give me three nights a year. I get the stadium for free to do whatever I want with my
Starting point is 00:20:01 concert. Oh, by the way, guess what? He has a vodka brand. that's going to be the vodka that's sold in the stadium. So easy money. Now, is pit bull? I know he's hot in Florida. Is he still a thing? He's a big deal. Well, I know he's a...
Starting point is 00:20:12 Can I yell, Dali! That's like his thing. He yells and, like, does all this cool stuff. Anyways, listen, FIU's had some good coaches in recent years. Mario Cristobal. Butch Davis. So I think this brand... Didn't Lane Kiffin coach there?
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm not sure. Was that Florida Atlantic? I think that was Florida Atlantic. They can make this something at FIU. I don't know how big it can get, but I did look. So they play in Miami-Dade County, right? Which you know a lot, like a hotbed for high school football.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Of course, yeah. And the town is Westchester, where FIU plays, 88% Latino and Hispanic. Wow. Okay. Pitbull goes, basically, this is going to be his home. He's going to make this area his. I think this is just a brilliant use of marketing on his part and branding. This is smart. And I'm waiting for you now to step up and put the cowherd.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Don't you have hamburgers and beers? No, you know, eastern Washington, cowherd field. Is that the blue turf? Is that what they have up there? It's the red turf. Red turf, I'm sorry, blue is blue is. I donated a small amount to the red turf, which when it snows, we didn't predict it would turn pink, which it did. Didn't work out quite like we planned.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I think you need to put your name on the stadium. No, I am a journalist. I'm a respected journalist. I don't want to be part of those shenanigans. There's a lot of rich people out there. There's farmers up there everywhere that got a lot of stacks of cash. Shout out to Pitbull. Very smart.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Next up, Joe Burrow. He wants to get back to the Super Bowl. Remember he narrowly lost to the Rams. a few years ago at Sofi. This season, the Super Bowl is in New Orleans. It'll be on Fox, I'm almost certain, because I've never been in New Orleans. I hear it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Looking forward to going. He wants to go back to the stadium where he won a national title with LSU and said it'd be fun to win it all back in New Orleans. He'd obviously have a home field advantage down there being an LSU guy. I don't know. Where are you on the Bengals in the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:21:56 I don't know, because it's all health to me. So, you know, it's weird. They got rid of Joe Mix and Good player. They've moved off some of their better players, but they pay a quarterback, they pay an edge rusher, they pay Jamar Chase. Why can't they pay
Starting point is 00:22:13 for a second receiver? Well, that's what Miami's doing. Oh, they haven't paid Jamar Chase, yes. But my takeaway, if you just said, we're going to pay money to these four. Burrow, Chase, Higgins, and the edge rusher. Just draft well. I mean, it's just funny how, like, Philadelphia's got two star receivers,
Starting point is 00:22:29 and multiple, and their tackles, and they pay Jalen Hertz, and they They pay the safety and they pay, like, it's weird how the salary cap works. Like, some teams feel like San Francisco pays everybody. Outside of Brock Purdy, everybody's getting paid. What did Jaylen Hertz get his deal done? Was it last year? It feels like forever ago.
Starting point is 00:22:47 But he's now, like, slid down the list. Let's think about this. Debo gets paid. Kittle gets paid. Warner gets paid. Well, you're not paying the quarterback. Trent's got paid. Yeah, but that's just one guy.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But it is interesting to me is the whole T. Higgins thing. Like, I would figure out ways to, if I can. have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins for half of my NFL career at wide receiver. It feels a little top heavy. We laughed at Miami earlier in the show for their situation, paying to a, paying Waddle, paying Hill. Did you notice the footage of Joe Burrow? Dude, that guy put on minimum 10 to 15 pounds. Look at the video of Joe Burrow. I was, look at him. He's yoked up. He's kind of jacked. He is jacked. I mean, I got bigger arms in him, but that's not saying much. I work on the show muscles, as you know.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But yeah, listen, Burrow, he's going to have a chance to get back, but you would pay T. Higgins, top dollar? I think he's arguably one of the best number two receivers in the league. So, I mean, if I have Joe Burrow, I got to need a left tackle and weapons. And they got rid of mixing. So it's like, I don't know their depth chart at tight end, but it's, why can't you keep two receivers? Philadelphia is paying for two.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Had they drafted well since Burrow and Chase? I mean, I think they draft. I don't think they draft like Green Bay, but I think they draft fine. Yeah, because you need, they're just so top-heavy. If Chase goes down for six games, what are the Bengals next year? It's like Joe Burrow. T. Higgins is a hard guy in 20-24. I don't, I mean, he's been consistently better than Brandon Ayuk the last three years, consistently.
Starting point is 00:24:17 When Chase went down, he's good. I like the Bengals. I don't know my AFC team yet. I keep moving around. But are the Bengals, they're in your Super Bowl bubble, right? Yeah, I think. I think they're on. I got to watch them play.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, wow. Okay. Final story, Team USA faces Brazil in the quarterfinals. I think it's coming up in like the next hour or so. Brazil has been a bit of a Cinderella story. And Steve King said his team needs to be ready for their physicality. There's been a lot of talk about different starting lineups, about who does Kerr has decided not to play. He's starting to get sick of it, pushing back with the media and saying this whole social media nonsense,
Starting point is 00:24:53 that's a regular season thing where the soap opera can carry the ratings. Here, we just want to win the damn gold medal. Now, what's super fascinating is Canada played today and lost a bit of a stunner to France. France benched Rudy Gobert, their center. He played three minutes, Colin. Wow. So they said it's too big. The two bigs is just too much.
Starting point is 00:25:15 They benched Gobert. I wonder if they start to slip up, is Joelle Embedde the fall guy in that starting lineup? Because, I mean, who else are you pulling? I don't think he's going to pull Curry. Who has been struggling? But Embedd's probably the guy who's most likely to get benched, just like Gobert was. today. Yeah. I don't think we're going to have to worry about it. Not against Brazil, but in the next round, that Serbia team, man. They're tough.
Starting point is 00:25:37 We've beaten them twice. I know, and that's the problem. It's tough to beat a team three times in what a month. Not if I have LeBron. Bam. They have this guy named Yucat. He's solid. He's pretty good. He's pretty solid. They were down 24 today, I think, came back in one? Serbia did? Yeah, they were getting smoked by Australia. France was crushing Canada. Yeah, Canada storm back and France held on. So Wembenyama in the semi-final. I'll tell you, the Fiba rules are different
Starting point is 00:26:03 at the NBA rules. I love goal tending in Fibba. I love it. When the ball's on the tin, baby, go knock it off. We need that at the NBA. That's what I said. You know, it's like college football. I prefer the college football pass interference
Starting point is 00:26:16 where it's just like 15 yards. In the NFL, you and I, our feet can get tangled that is a 63-yard family. I also hate the NFL where you fumble the ball out of the end zone. You lose possession. That's way too punitive. What about overtime rules?
Starting point is 00:26:30 College football's overtime. Nobody can figure out overtime. Everybody is sure they have the exact formula. They're all awful. College footballs is all. That's the best overtime in all sports. So good. You could be an hour long.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So? It's not good. You're like the 25-yard line. You're just scoring left and right. And everybody's tired, so it's big plays. You know, I always told you my overtime rule. And nobody likes it. Okay, let's hear.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I wrote about it. The road team always gets first possession. So if you think about the NFL, I have to travel. Because the NFL's all built on parity. The more you win, the lousier the draft pick. So it's not baseball where most money wins, or NBA, most stars win.
Starting point is 00:27:11 The NFL's trying to create parity. Not college football isn't. Best team, better recruiting class. So the road team gets the ball first, and then from that point, first team scores. And you say, what about the fairness? So in football, the crowd can absolutely, absolutely negatively affected team.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You can struggle hearing, even with a new helmet equipment. It's harder in the end zone to hear. And that if I have to do all the traveling once a week, I have to stay in a hotel, I can't hear in the stadium. The one advantage I get is, overtime, I get the ball first. And if you score, it's over? It doesn't matter what you score. You score, it's over.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Oh, no way. That is no. Then you got teams playing for overtime in the fourth quarter, as opposed to try to win the game. But we go to overtime and get the ball first. not playing for overtime. The home team. The home team. And by the way, the road team may not either based on
Starting point is 00:28:02 quarterback play. The road team, if the road team's a defensive team, no, they're not. I just like the equality of opportunity. Both teams get the ball in overtime, which is what college has. NFL, we saw that in the Super Bowl. San Frank got it first. Kick the field goal.
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Starting point is 00:29:55 I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:30:22 One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at Tickford.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. clearly, 84 is big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist,
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Starting point is 00:32:48 on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free, iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now basketball uh joel mb has had a very very rough olympics charles barclay was on the paul george podcast you know he talked about some of the issues joel mb will have to look in the mirror with i hope this is a week up for joel this olympic experience he has not played well and i'm hoping he's like you know man i got to get in better shape because I mean personally I think that's one of the reason he's always injured I don't think he's in good enough shape but I think the way he's played which is not well doing the
Starting point is 00:33:31 Olympic should be a wake-up call for him like you know what I got to get in better shape I got to get healthy because if we don't win the championship or go deep in the playoffs it's going to be because of me I agree with Charles and I do think it's been a bit of a revelation that he can't just blame James Hardin and Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris, a lot of it is Embedd clogging up the offense. And Nick Wright stopped by earlier, and we talked about this.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I said, is it time now? He's not Yokic, he's not Yonis, he's not A.D. We have to drop him out of that class. I think everything you said there, unfortunately, is fair. Because I have been an Embeddead fan. I have picked the Sixers a couple times
Starting point is 00:34:17 to make the NBA finals. You know, I admit my, you know, if I have biases, I admit them. I think their GM, in addition to being a pal of mine, I think is one of the sharpest, savvious minds in basketball. So I root for, I root for Daryl. I root for the Sixers to a degree. But all those critiques, I feel, have been crystallized in this Olympic run. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Which is, he isn't in great shape. Now, part of that is, you know, circular, which is he gets hurt so he can. can't be, you know, he can't do the conditioning he needs to do. So then he's out of shape, but then that leads to more injuries. And so you wonder, is that ever going to get fixed? I thought some of the quotes he gave were really unfortunate. What the stuff he said about, you know, LeBron and Durant and those guys, it's like, those are your teammates for these few weeks. That to me is, is odd. And the fact that when they put this Olympic team together, Indeed, obviously, not born in the States, and then theoretically he was going to play for France, and then we ended up getting him.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It was a huge coup. It was supposed to be the cheat code for this Olympic team that we're going to have the size, the rebounding, the defense to compete with anybody when we weren't necessarily going to have that on this roster without him. And instead, he's been one of the least reliable worst players on the team. And it is to me, I think people, and folks can roll their eyes at me when I say this, but I just think the facts are out there from watching the games, prematurely dis-downgraded LeBron in his stature in the league because they're like, he's in year 20, he's in year 21, he's almost 40 years old,
Starting point is 00:36:05 and when LeBron is healthy, we're seeing it right now, he's still one of the five best players alive. And I think they prematurely upgraded. Embeded without a single great playoff run, which we've asked for from every star ever, even if you don't win the championship, just a great start to finish playoff run because he is such a dominant regular season player. But the fact that the team is flatly better without him playing in these Olympics is a really tough argument to pull against if you still want to say he's one of the four best players
Starting point is 00:36:41 in the world. Finally, I said this earlier this week. Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys, is not terrified of never winning another Super Bowl. He's got three. He's terrified of irrelevance. And Dak Prescott makes you relevant. And Dak's going to get his money. It's a weak college quarterback class.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I've already had two executives in the league tell me they are interested in Dak. he's going to get his money. That's my take. Jerry is, you know, as predictable as, you know, the morning son, is that he drafted him. He found him. I mean, during the anthem, controversies, DAC was there.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He's great at the podium. He keeps you relevant. I think Dak's going to get $65 million. You think I'm nuts, don't you? So 60, that part's correct. No, I don't, here's the thing. I totally agree with your first point. And if I can, I'm going to steal a line.
Starting point is 00:37:41 from a mutual friend of ours, Kevin, and congrats to Kevin and his upward success and everything he's doing. He said on his podcast or on some outlet a couple weeks ago that if someone came to Jerry Jones and said, I guarantee you you win the Super Bowl this year, and all you have to give me is that you will never do a press conference again, he wouldn't take the trick. And I was like, oh, I agree with that take.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah. I think that is correct. that if Jerry's like guaranteed Jeannie, rub on the, you know, the crystal, I'm screwing this up. What do the genies come out of? A lamp, there you go. Lamp. You have three. There it is.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I guarantee you win the Super Bowl, but you have to cancel your weekly radio hit, and you never do a press. I'm going to be like, now I'll roll the dice. So I agree with that part of it. Where I disagree is this. If they were going to pay DAC, they'd have paid DAC. Had they paid DAC, it would be easier to pay CD Lamb. They might have been more active in free agency. I think that they are terrified of being locked into a ceiling with Dak Prescott, and I think
Starting point is 00:38:49 you're right about the money. Everyone that's saying, oh my God, DAC could get $57, $58 million. That is not accurate. It is a minimum of $60. It is probably $65 million a year, and I don't think the Cowboys are going to pay it. Because if they would have, if they were going to, they would have. So I think Dax's going to play out this year and then become a 31-year-old franchise quarterback with true free and clear free agency. And I've been saying it, I will keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I really think Dack Prescott, Bill Belichick, package deal to the New York Giants a year from now is going to happen. And I think Bill gets to end where he started. I think the Giants get to rebrand entirely and steal the Cowboys quarterback. and that gets something like three years, $200 million guaranteed, and that's where this thing ends up going. But the biggest quarterback story today is that the Minnesota Vikings have released
Starting point is 00:39:51 their first depth chart, and Sam Darnold convincingly beat out J.J. McCarthy, the heralded Michigan quarterback, who was in a battle with Nick Mullins for the backup. So Sam Darnel, this is his first great coach, his best offensive weaponry, Sam Darnel. Now, I will say, J. Mack, last week in tomorrow's headlines today,
Starting point is 00:40:19 he did his NFC predictions, and you had Minnesota as a wild card team. I don't, but does that mean Darnold like Baker Mayfield has a little bit, like a Gino Smith, a little bit of a real-card team? birth. Yeah, I'm 100% with you. Look what O'Connell did with those quarterbacks last year. It was like Josh Dobbs and Jaron Hall. And now you add Aaron Jones to the running back room. Remember, they had no running back last year. Madison was hurt. They were going to be randoms. I think these Vikings
Starting point is 00:40:50 teams going to be spicy. I mean, that division's very good, right? Lions, Packers. Only one really, only one really good defense New Chicago's. So, you know, listen, we've seen Gino Smith, who was a complete bust. I mean, Darnold had highlights. Gino is a bust. Seattle, got to the playoffs. I mean, Baker Mayfield. Rams briefly, Tampa, rebirth.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So it's in a sport where eight teams every year are desperate at quarterback, Sam Darnel has a very good year. Let's say wins nine games. They don't make the playoffs, but he throws for 3,800 yards, 26 touchdowns, 8, 9 picks, 62, 63. He'll get a Baker contract somewhere. It's not a very good college quarterback draft. I think he's going to get a contract. That might be going a little far.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I mean, Baker got him to the playoffs and I'd like, didn't he have the best season of his career? You have Minnesota getting to the playoffs. So that tells me Sam's going to get it. They're not getting to the playoffs because of their defense. Well, Flores is known for turning things around. He's got some players on the defense are good. Gosh, the NFL season can't get here soon enough. So many new, like the Vikings to mirror are like a top seven interesting team.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Because we're all in on O'Connell. We both know somebody who's super close to them. Was at his wedding and like, come on. You root for the jets. I'm supposed to be above that as a hardened, respected journalist. It's going to be hard for me to watch Viking games and not root for my guy Sammy. Sammy D. Sammy D.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's going to be hard for me. See you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey. Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their
Starting point is 00:42:37 between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big
Starting point is 00:42:53 moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in
Starting point is 00:43:31 sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Starting point is 00:44:02 call it grotesque, others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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