The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Colin would trade Myles Garrett, Albert Breer

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

With a lot of woes around the Cleveland Browns, Colin argues that the team should trade Myles Garrett and go for a new quarterback. NFL insider Albert Breer joins the show to talk about why the Jets head coaching gig might not be the most enviable job out there.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you liked him coming out of college. We did. I think they have to look at this. in Washington, they have to be shocked to some degree. I mean, let's go back to pre-draft and draft. Remember, Albert, during camp, usually you don't shower praise on a rookie quarterback during camp, and during camp Kingsbury and Dan Quinn were marveling over him. It's like they couldn't contain themselves how good he was. But aren't they surprised at some level by this? Well, I'll give you a fun anecdote. Like a lot of times that, um, you know, as a media guy, you'll show up at camp and the rookies will be kind of locked away. Like, they're afraid that the rookies are going to say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing,

and the rookies are scared to be thrown in front of it. Like, I got like ushered over to Jaden Daniels just to say hello to him. And just so I could see what they were seeing about what kind of guy he was, you know? And it wasn't on the record or anything like a big deal, but it was like they couldn't wait to present Jaden Daniels to everyone, you know? say, see here, look what we have. Like, it is something, he is a very, very, very special player, prospect person, all of it. So they feel really strongly about it. They have felt that strongly about it, you know, since camp. And I think, you know, one of the things that's

really coming through now, Colin, and I think this is an important piece to it, is how he's handled the bumps, you know, and I think this relates back to being a five-year starter in college, having 55 college starts. Yeah. He saw it from both ends of the spectrum. him. He was at Arizona State in the Pact 12, and he was there when probation hit, when the COVID season got canceled. His whole career got kind of thrown into a blender. And then he went into the pressure cooker of the SEC in a program that's won three national titles, you know, since 2000, with other great players around him. So, you know, I think, you know, like one thing that they really liked about him was because of the amount of things that he's seen and the

of experiences that he has he's had, that he'd be able to ride out any bumps that he faced in the NFL. And I think that's certainly happened. They leveled off a little bit in the season. They've been able to come back strong. Yeah. I think his command, you know, even for, even for a guy who was experienced, I think that has gotten them a little bit. And there's a little thing in Sunday's game that you probably wouldn't have been able to notice if you didn't talk to people there. And that was that second and three. I think you remember this one, right, Colin, where he takes the, you know, it's I think 23 seconds left, whatever it is, 26 seconds left. He takes the snap.

He runs behind his blocker. He doesn't quite get the first down. Well, that looked like it was a design quarterback run. It actually wasn't. They called an RPO in that situation. The receivers didn't get the signal. And so when Jaden took the snap, he had to react to the receivers not being ready for it. And he actually tucked the ball and ran for the two yards that were there, got down.

they call the timeout, and of course then they run for the first down. He gets up spikes the ball and they throw the game winner. But I think it's another example of his poise. And I think that's the one thing you couldn't really project is in these high-leverage situations at the NFL level, how is he going to be able to handle that? And yesterday was just another example of how he's passed those tests with flying colors. All right. I've got a bunch of things I want to talk about.

Sam Darnold, it's gone from a good story to a really good team. Detroit's beat up. Philadelphia's got some drama. Jalen Hertz concussion. You know, I like the Rams, but I think they're a draft away. I like the Packers, but I think they're kind of young. You start looking at Minnesota, how in the world do you let Sam Darnold walk? I mean, I talked to an executive yesterday that said they're too smart to let him go.

You know, the executive is like Tennessee needs a quarterback. Raiders, Giants, it's not a great quarterback class. Is it possible Minnesota now has talked themselves into, we're going to keep, we're going to franchise. tag him. Yeah, I talked to Kevin O'Connell when he was in the tarmac in Seattle yesterday. After that great win and the throw at the end from Donald to Jefferson down the left sideline. And, you know, one thing that was sort of interesting in that conversation was Kevin almost seemed

like a little bit, and you've been around Kevin, I'm sure, like he almost seemed a little indignant about the idea that the other shoe is about to drop, you know, with Sam. And, yeah, he really took up for Sam and saying, like, people expect, like, this whole thing's going to come undone and it's not. Sam's just a really good player who's now in a good situation. And so I think they have an idea of what they have. Here's the other thing, too, Colin. It's like, I think the question, if you're the Vikings that you have to ask is,

do you owe it to your team? Do you owe it to the veteran players in your team who are in this win-now position to give them another year of Sam Darnel? Yeah. When you don't know what you're, Jay J.J. McCarthy is going to look like in the spring and the summer. When J.J. McCarthy, as much as they did like him, did lose all these months of development time, August, September, October, November. They still love him and he's doing all the right things.

But, you know, the team that's in a position to win right now, do you look at it for your Minnesota and say, we just can't roll the dice right now? So there is a model out there for this, and you have to go back 20 years, but it's sort of like what happened with the Chargers, you know, in 2004 and 2005. in that in 2004, they had Drew Breeze as a veteran quarterback in their roster. They drafted Phillip Rivers. Breeze played great in 2004. The Chargers won 12 games, and the Chargers franchised him in 2005.

And then, you know, obviously Breeze winds up getting hurt and Rivers becomes a starter in 2006. But this has happened before. So the franchise tag is awfully expensive for next year. It's expected to be over $40 million at quarterback. But it might be worth it to just kind of. of show your team. If you're Kevin O'Connell, Quasi, Duff, Mesa, all the other guy, all the guys in charge there,

to show your team, like, we're really invested in here and now. We're going to show you by giving you the quarterback that you had last year. Oh, by the way, also our quarterback of the future, if something goes wrong. Hey, I want to ask you about the Jets, because I think Aaron in the last month has played well. I heard during the broadcast, they said

Aaron would be willing to take a pay cut. You got two receivers I like. Nice defensive personnel, elite corners. A good back. You probably, you know, I like the makeup of the team. I don't love the ownership space. Is it viewed by candidates as a good job? The Jets?

That's a tricky question. I think most quarterbacks or I think most coaches are leery and GM candidates too of where ownership has gotten the last few guys, you know, and the non-football voices in that organization, how the non-football voices have influenced Woody Johnson and the decision-making and how some of the things that maybe Joe Douglas wanted to do or Robert Sala wanted to do, they weren't able to do.

You know, I think one good example, you know, that I can remember in the recent past was in 2022. They felt like the football people felt like they needed an offensive tackle. Like that was going to be a real problem for them. And Woody Johnson didn't want them drafting an office. offensive lineman now wound up working out because they got sauce gardener and and and and uh and and garrant wilson yeah and so you know it wound up like looking okay but then the offensive tacklish you wound up being a tire fired for them um you know until they they really had to

invest to fix it this off season so um i think you know like candidates are going to be leery of that that said there's a good base of talent there and so you know you go through the garrilson's the the sauce gardeners. Olufoshana got hurt, but he's played really well and left tackle. He's going to be their left tackle in the future. You got Jermaine Johnson.

He'll be coming back from Achilles. Quinn and Williams is one of the best one of the best young defensive linemen in football, Quincy Williams at linebacker. There's a good base of talent there that you can build around. And so, yeah, I mean, I think that there are things that make the job attractive. Here's the other thing that makes it attractive,

just versus some of the other jobs that are out there right now. So if you go to Chicago, you're inheriting Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles. If you go to New Orleans, you're inheriting Mickey Loomis. If you're a coach who wants to make sure you're going in with a general manager you already know and are comfortable with and that you two are going to be tethered together, the Jets right now are the one place where it looks like you'd be able to do that because I do think that the guys in charge are going to prioritize having two guys coming in together that are willing to work together that maybe have some history working together. So there are things that are attractive about the Jets job.

It's just you've got to figure out where you're at on the role of ownership there. And Bill Parcells used to say this to all his young assistant coaches. It's the one thing when you go into a new organization that you cannot change. You went to Ohio State and you're very connected to the program. I want to shift and pivot and end with this. I feel a lot better than I did before. Is that what we're going to get to? No, no.

First of all, I thought the game would be. competitive. I thought that's the best Ohio State has played in years in a big game. I thought they reminded me of the Georgia game where you're like, okay, they're hitting on all cylinders. Like they may not win. You know, I mean, Georgia was a great team, but it's like, wow, it was showing off good.

And let's just say, I think they're going to beat Oregon. Let's say they don't. And Ryan Day loses to Michigan and Oregon twice. How does Buckeye Nation? How does that land? Because this was impressive, but they were at home and Will Howard was perfect

I'm looking at Ohio State and I think did Ryan Day save his job? And I think of course and then I think to myself, they lose to Oregon little old Oregon in the Pacific Northwest. You tell me Buckeye Nation, they lose to Oregon. How does it land? Well, so I was there when John Cooper was fired

and I remember what that was like. I was my junior year and like there was some academic scandal that you know they they wound up pinning it on but it was really because you know they weren't winning at the same club that they had winning been winning at before and there was the Michigan problem the one thing that like I think can't be ignored there is it also happened when the win loss record changed so it wasn't just losing to Michigan losing to Michigan was a huge problem it wasn't just not winning a national title although that was a huge issue as well it was that if we fire him, we're not really sacrificing anything. We're just walking away. I look at where Ryan Day has the program, and I think in a lot of different ways, he's done a really good job.

Same. And, you know, like, you look at, like, the roster right now, and it's like what they're going to be bringing back next year. Now, they're going to lose a lot. But Jeremiah Smith, Caleb Downs, Julian San, like, they have the core. of what could be a monster again for the next couple of years. So, like, part of this is, like, not just, you know, how do you look against Oregon?

It's also, like, if you are, if you're walking from Ryan Day, are you bringing in somebody who can retain all that talent? Are you walking away from that talent? Does all that talent jump in the transfer portal, the way a bunch of guys jumped in the transfer portal at Alabama when Nick Saban walked away? I think one thing that, you know, and I think Ryan on balance has done a really good job there. I think one thing that protects Ryan is the strength of the roster

because I think if you're Ross Bjork, the AD, or any of the other powers that be there in Columbus, I'm sure you're going to look at it. You're going to say, this is still a team that's set up to win very big over the next few years. The talent is still better than all but maybe three or four schools of the country, and it might be number one. Yeah.

Are we really in a position where we're that upset? with what happened where we're going to walk away from Jeremiah Smith. We're going to walk away from Caleb Downs, potentially. I'm not saying they would jump in the portal, but you'd be risking that. I think it would have to be pretty ugly against Oregon to get yourself to that point. Okay. Just a thought, because I do think they'll beat them close. All right, great stuff.

Albert Breer, as always. Appreciate it, man. All right, thanks, Colin. Yeah, it's interesting what he said about the Jets, is that the belief is you don't have this president who's, you know, the owner's impulsive. But the truth is it you and a GM coming in together. That's very, very valuable. You're bringing in your lead guy.

Again, I'll say it again. I thought Joe Douglas was a better than average GM. He missed on a COVID quarterback. There's only one person in the world that got Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, and Daniel Jones, all right. You know that was, Jay Mack? Is he sitting across from me right now? I just wanted to be obnoxious. I just wanted to be obnoxious.

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Eagles 10-game win streak down the tubes. Here's Dan Quinn on Jaden's performance. If you give him moments, he really lights up in those spots. Today, he became a heavy hitter to know that, you know, at the end, you're ready to go make a play, to go, you know, give your chance a shot to win it. That's a big deal. So I thought there's a lot to be gained from today. It was ugly in some ways, but it was also excellent in some ways.

Yeah, I mean, he had some turnovers early, was great late. I can live with that. Turnovers, Colin. How do you win a game with my turn? That game was a lot. I don't want to take too much from it, but I do think you can take Jaden Daniel's second half from it and go, wow, this kid's a gamer. 100%. Now, where it gets interesting is this offseason for Washington is pivotal, right? We saw the Texans kind of mess around. Whatever they did with Stroud around him, hasn't really worked. I would like to see one more weapon beyond. They need a weapon, but Colin, the cornerback situation's bad. They thought they got something in Latimore. He was roasted.

Well, you know what's funny is Lattimore has given Mike Evans fits for years, and Mike's the first belt hall famer. A.J. Brown had his way with him. I mean, that shows you how good A.J. Brown, because Lattimore can play. I don't think A.J. Brown's coverable. I just think he's one. Like Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown. J.M.R. Chase. There's a handful of guys in this league.

By the way, Aaron and DeBonte Adams have a little something cooking. Stop. I don't want it back. Cookin, Stafford. I think Washington, listen. Dallas. Can they win a playoff game? Yeah, why not? Because I think, I mean, you're talking about...

I mean, against Philadelphia, it's going to be very difficult. Well, I mean, the Rams in Green Bay, those are good teams. Like, I think I'd be very... I mean, I like Washington, but I think what we just watched may have been the highlight of the year. Oh, I don't know. You remember Jane Daniels against the Bengals on Monday Night Football in, like, his fourth NFL game? Well, the Bengals. He was amazing.

So let me ask you, who would you rather have for the next? five years. Jordan Love or Jaden Daniels? Oh, that's coin flip. I love them both. That's not a fair question. It's a sports bar question. You're hanging out with your buddies. I'm not drinking. If I was drinking, I'd have an answer.

I mean, I love that's both. I think the contract is. I think they're both. Jordan Love just got paid. Yeah, so Jane Daniels is free for four years. Probably I'd go Jaden. But I mean, those guys are both. I mean, if we project out, and I don't know what college is going to furnish

pro football. But if you told me three years from now the top seven quarterbacks in the league, I think Jaden Daniels and Jordan Love are both in the top six to seven. Now, I think Mahomes is still in it. Josh is in it. Lamar's in it. Herbert's in it. I don't think Stafford

in three years is in it. The only reason I would take Jaden Daniels is because he's younger, A, and B, Jordan Love remember sat for a few years. Then he came on and well, oh, this guy's got some. Jane Daniels, get in there. Yeah.

New coach. Well, Jane also had a much more robust college career. He was with an NFL coach in Herm Edwards. Then he goes to Brian Kelly. So, I mean, he had a collegiate career that I thought had certain layers that Jordan, Utah State for a couple years. Jayden Daniels or Bill Nicks? Jaden Daniels. Next five years, Jayden.

Pennix or Daniels? Like him both, but I do get movement with Jaden Daniels so I take him. Penix is a pocket. Last one. Just one more. Justin Herbert of Jaden Daniels. Again, that's unfair. It's close.

You're giving me things. They're both A's. These are legitimate sports questions. Who would you rather have? Don't you have an NBA story to go to? Let's get to the Browns. Worse than the NBA, the Browns. Oh, my gosh.

What a disappointing season. Well, this is where it's starting to get interesting. So they don't have a quarterback at all. Everybody's hurt. And now Miles Garrett, who's been a loyal soldier in Cleveland for eight years, talked about the possibility of a change in French. if things don't change for Cleveland. First of all, I want to win.

And I want the Browns to be able to put me and us in position to win. And I'm not trying to rebuild. I'm trying to win right now. I want that to be, you know, apparent win. You know, the season's over and we have those discussions. I want them to be able to, you know, illuminate that for me, illustrate that for me.

So that can be, you know, something that I can see in the near future. That's all we want to do. He's got to be the leader of that team. I don't, that does not sound good. It's just, I don't trust. It's too bad. I love the coach, love the GM, love Miles Garrett.

They have elements I love, but I don't think it's a winning culture. You're in a division with the Steelers are such a smart franchise. Baltimore. And, you know, it's a have-and-have-noughts division. I love Pittsburgh and Baltimore, top-down. I think they're great. Baltimore and Cleveland, or Cleveland and Cincinnati just have talented players. That's the difference.

I mean, Pittsburgh and Baltimore, those are real businesses. Those are real businesses. Top executive suite ownership down. Cleveland and Cincinnati just have Hall of Fame players. Miles Garrett's a Hall of Famer. Joe Burroughs a Hall of Famer. Joe Burroughs a Hall of Famer. There's a big difference.

So there's some things we don't understand at all. The Bermuda Triangle, for instance. What the hell's wrong with Deshaun Watson? As a football player, he does not look like the guy who was at Clemson. No, no. Does not look like the guy. And there was no, I mean, there's been some injuries, but no, like, radical. Oh, my gosh.

If I would have told you three years ago, an NFL team will sign the worst quarterback contract ever. And you had to pick three teams to guess who it would be. Wouldn't Cleveland be one of them? Jets, Browns in that ballpark. But nobody thought that at the time. Well, no, we didn't like it. First of all, there only been one guaranteed contract. That was Minnesota Cousins.

Nobody thought it was a good contract. A, it was guaranteed. Brady didn't get guaranteed. But it was Deshawn Watson, who'd been to the playoffs and lap. And Brady didn't get a guaranteed contract. Okay, you don't do that. It's not baseball. And the other thing is, he had all this civil stuff,

and it was still lurking around. It was. It's like, I'm sorry, but like it just wasn't smart. It'd be one thing if he was a student body, president, like he was the nicest guy. We had all sorts of civil allegations, and it was like, ugh. I don't know what to do. Like, do you, is, no, Browns aren't fans aren't going to want to hear this.

Do you consider trading Miles Garrett, Colin? Can you get a hole for him and start over? Can you get a quarterback at five? I would trade Miles Garrett if this was a quarterback class like last year, where I thought there were four to five guys. Because the way to get out of trouble in the NFL, So the Russell Wilson contract for Denver, a lot of dead cap money. The way to get out of it is hit in a first round quarterback.

You don't pay anything. So by the two or three years, then you're home free. The only way for Cleveland to get out from this mess is to hit on a quarterback. This is not the time to hit on a quarterback. This quarterback class is not good enough. Now, I do think, I do believe, and I'm serious on this, I could see, I could, if I'm the New York Giants and you gave me Miles Garrett and I gave you the number one pick. No, the Giants need a quarterback.

Yeah, but my take is I would go Kirk Cousins for a year and I would take Miles Garrett and a bunch of picks. Like, I'm telling you, I don't think these quarterbacks in this class are, I don't think any of them are as good as this. You don't think Kim Ward could be as good as McCarthy or Pettics? I don't. I don't. I think the draft process is going to be fun on this show. Because I'm bullish on Cam Ward. I think he comes in and...

He's got the best arm by far. I think there's a chance he's really, really good. And Jalen Milrow could be, could be, maybe. A poor man's Jaden Daniels. Could be with the right offensive coach. I think he's a much better Anthony Richardson. Much better. That's fair.

I think Jalen Millroll's body type... I mean, that dude is. He's a smart quarterback. Oh, he's a great kid, great parent. He has a great, I mean, his intangibles in Alabama, he's inconsistent. But they love him. He passes a lot of the intangible stuff. Well, Will Levis was like a 4.0 guy.

Very smart. But no, people weren't fans of him. They had a lot of doubters with him. Gun show Will. Led by you. Final story is college football. Listen, the first round matchups were blowouts, all decided by 10 ports or more. home teams cruised. Every teaser

under the sun covered. The most lopsided margin came in SMU Penn State and Tennessee, Ohio State. I'm very geeked for this, Boise State, Penn State on New Year's Eve. Are you calling for an upset? I think you are. I'm getting closer. I already took the points, but I'm getting closer to a money line on Boise. On the first, which would be, what, next Wednesday, I believe. Texas, Arizona, State, Ohio State, Oregon,

at the Rose Bowl. Who has the edge of your crowd-wise? Because Ohio State will travel in Oregon? Oregon and Ohio State are two of the top five travel teams in the country. They're both great. They both have $35,000 or whatever. Notre Dame, Georgia, I believe that Sugar Bowl's in Louisiana, which is

very close to Athens. You know, I've got to be honest with you. That's not a bad drive. I think I like Notre Dame. I'm leaning there with you. I like Notre Dame. Is there a case for Arizona State or no? A case to get beat by 20 or 15? No, a case to win the damn football.

I know. I don't think there's a case. I'm just telling you, Dillingham, I know, like the Indiana coach. The old school. Dillingham's going to have that four weeks to cook up something, and I'm almost certain they did not game plan for Clemson. You could have spent the last three weeks just looking at Texas

and where we could take advantage. I think they may take a lead. Huh? They may take a lead. I do worry about Texas. Didn't Texas lose a couple of linemen? They did have a couple of linemen go down. We still don't know about Bond, the superstar receiver.

Now, the running backs, that one shit was a blur. Yeah, they were really good. But clubs that couldn't tackle me in the old game. I think I'm going to take Notre Dame over Georgia. That's what it feels like. Okay. And then Oregon, Ohio State, do you have a, is it too early? Well, I'm just going to stick with my preseason prediction.

Ducks won at Otson. Buckeyes winning the rematch. For the record, I have not heard one person outside of a staffer here who's in Oregon grad picked the ducks in this game. Haven't heard one person saying it. Well, I mean, they beat them earlier. I'll tell you this. No, everybody's going to have to.

When is that game? What day is that game? January 1st. That will get the largest college football rating ever. Ever? For a game, not for the national championship. I think that's going to set the record for the greatest college football rating ever. I mean, modern history that's not a natty.

Because Texas USC got like a 20 or a 22 Vince Young, Liner. Bush. That game was, I was there, that game was off the charts. That was like star studded. Before we knew who Matt McConaughey was. I think he was. No, stop. Well, I remember Roger Clemens was at that game. He was like the big star. Oh, that's right. Clemens, yeah. But I think Oregon, Ohio State, and I'm talking, I think it'll get a sideline for that. It'll get a, I'm going to watch on TV. It'll get a 20. I'm not joking. It'll get an NFL playoff rating. How are the Oregon corners? If Jeremiah Smith doesn't have 12 to 15 targets. Oregon's defense, you can push around a little bit, but that offense

goes score points. You watch Smith he's better than Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr. was awesome. Jeremiah Smith's better player. He's unguarded. He's more athletic. It's going to be a great game. Jay Mack for the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Boy, that's going to be the good game. Ohio State, Oregon, Rose Bowl. That is going to be. You can see it on TV right now. The sunset's going down. I'll have the planes flying over. Wrap it up next live in LA, The Herd.

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Here was Matt on Caleb earlier today. This is a very strong rookie class of quarterbacks. And I just think that Caleb is the one guy to me that I don't see the things that I believe are really important, that I believe matter for sustained success, for a long career. I haven't seen that so much. Body language is a huge thing to me. I don't love what I see out of him. So are there wow plays?

Are there splash plays? Yeah, that's awesome. That's why you were drafted so high. But if you're going to compare him, and if I was just going to like, nameless faces, I don't see the emblem on the helmet, I don't see the name on the jersey, I don't know who was picked, first, second, third, whatever.

I'm putting all those other rookie quarterbacks, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Bo, Nix. In a week, I might put panics up there above Caleb. You know, and Jay Mack, one of the criticism that I thought was fair because I watched it at USC for two years, that he was emotional and a little moody. And there was a GM that said he didn't like the fingernail stuff when he was putting profanities on there.

I talked to another GM in the league that didn't love to jump into the crowd with mom stuff. It didn't bother me, but I'm just telling you their perspective. And I do think temperament is underrated. Like Jay Cutler, I didn't like his temperament. Aaron Rogers, body language. Yesterday, hands in the air, frustrated with teammates. I've never loved Aaron's sort of temperament and body language. I don't doubt.

There is something to be said not only about IQ, but EQ. And quarterback is your CEO on the field. He's your coach. And you've got to be able to, and I'm not saying you can't bark at a teammate on the sidelines. I've always been okay with that. Tom Brady barked at Josh McDaniels. Peyton Manning barked at Jeff Saturday. I'll always defend a guy in the heat of the action.

But a lot of this passive aggressive stuff and eye-rolling stuff with Aaron drove me crazy for years. Brett Farve could be upset. Brett is not an eye-roll guy. And I think there are times with Caleb that he's kind of – you know, Kyler Murray, by the way, doesn't have great body language. I've overlooked a lot of it because I love the talent. Lamar Jackson, when he's frustrated, gets mad at himself. You never see Lamar mad at teammates. Lamar is mad at himself.

I like that. There is something to be said. The camera is always on you as a quarterback. So, you know, with Caleb, there's some mood stuff. And I think he's done a really good job this year at the podium. As the sky is falling in Chicago, I will defend him forever. He's been great at the podium, and that counts too. But I'm just saying there was some stuff out at college.

When I asked my five or six guys, you know, they would all say kind of, you know, some of the stuff off the field I don't love and the fingernails. Not the... Everything is something and nothing is everything. But it was something. With Jaden Daniels, the only thing

we worried about was frame. He's a little, you know, a little spindly, but he's been fine. Bo Necks were like, doesn't have a big arm. Drake May were like he's raw, but really talented. Everybody had something. Penix. You're like, he's had surgeries.

Like, everybody had something. But Caleb was more the, he can be a little bit moody. And that temperament equation is a big thing, especially when you're going to the bears. And, you know, it's, you know, every day has something there. Jay Mack, nice job at a Monday. Boy, Matt Hasselbeck, he was our off-season signee. We went into the free agent market to sign Matt Hasselbeck. He was a better signing than Kirk Cousins in Atlanta.

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