The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Combine, headlines

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:02:51 NFL draft analyst, NFL.com, his dad coached in the league forever. He's been covering the draft for 21 years. years. And he's just a guy that's accurate all the time. So I've tried to bring him on a couple times during the draft season. So I'm looking at your NFL scouting report grading scale, where eight's the perfect prospect, and then it's perennial, all pro, pro bowler, starter, blah, blah, blah. Is there, is there a one of your perfect prospects this draft? Does it have a perfect prospect? No, no, you don't have a perfect prospect. Not only do you not have a perfect prospect, you don't have a 7.0 prospect.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And Daniel Jeremiah and I use the scale. He brought it to my attention, and that's what we use for NFL.com. And when we talk to each other, that's the terminology we use the grades. And a 7.0 prospect is a guy who is a Pro Bowl caliber prospect. And the higher you go on the 7s, that means a better chance that you have to be an all-pro prospect. Trevor Lawrence was a high 7. Miles Garrett is a high 7. You have Chase Young was a high 7. There are actually, Sequin Barclay was a high seven. Quentin Nelson was a seven.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But we don't have any of those in this draft, unfortunately. Some good players, we don't have any 7.0s in this draft. So let me just throw a couple guys out. Kyle Hamilton, safety Notre Dame, high IQ. I know him personally. He doesn't look like safeties tall 220, 25, carries the weight like it's a buck 90. What do you make of him as a prospect? So this is why I like you, because you actually do your work.
Starting point is 00:04:27 work and you know this is my highest rated prospect in this draft. I don't know a lot of people have Aiden Hutchinson. I have him second. I think Kyle Hamilton has very special traits. He's six foot four, as you mentioned. He can carry 230 pounds. Most people who have been doing this for a while, project his frame to carry 230 when he when he hits the weights a little bit harder and grows into his frame. He's going to run really well. He has range. He can play in the box. He can play tight ends, matchup tight ends, which is a big part of the game now. He's a unicorn, Colin. He's a guy who can do a lot of different things. He's got the versatility to play all over the field. And I think people wanted Isaiah Simmons to be that kind of guy. And I don't think he's developed
Starting point is 00:05:07 into that kind of player. This is that kind of player. Special player. I don't know if he goes inside the top three because he's a safety. But I also think he's kind of more than a safety, if you know what I mean. Yeah, here's a picture of him right now, Kyle Hamilton, and there it goes. Malik Willis, Liberty quarterback. How do you view him? I now, I will say this in terms of pushing the ball down the field. He's just a running back. He's a big, thick kid. What do you make of him? Yeah. So he is a tough one because, you know, I learned. So this whole process, it's about learning when you make mistakes and adjusting your process. And Justin Herbert and Josh Allen are two great cases. A guy's a good size, great size, great arm talent. Josh had special mobility.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Justin is very mobile. And there were guys that I didn't grade the flashes on. I got too worried about the things that they weren't consistent at. I'm not going to make that same mistake with Malik Willis, but I am going to temper it a little bit. I still think there's holes that he has to clean up in his game. But the thing is, with Josh Allen, you can see a comparison there. Arm talent, athleticism, flashes. And sometimes, Colin, you have to grade the flashes.
Starting point is 00:06:15 That's where people made the mistake, I think, with Justin Herbert, is they didn't grade the flashes. That's a mistake I made, and I'm not going to make that mistake again. So I'm bumping my grade up a little bit on Malik Willis, because you have to grade the flashes because they might become that player that they flash as. Kenny Pickett, hand size. Now they're saying he's got small hands. That's what they said about Burrow.
Starting point is 00:06:35 My concern about it, I mean, he didn't pop until his fifth year in college. So that to me says, you know, you got pop. I mean, Bryce Young popped by his second start. Caleb Williams' second start. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you make a picket as a prospect? Yeah, you know, it's interesting you bring up Joe Burrow because Joe Burrell was not very impressive as junior. year. I thought he was a seventh round pick, maybe. And then he had one of the greatest,
Starting point is 00:06:58 it's actually, as a sports talk goes, I can honestly say this. It's the greatest flip from one year to the next that I've ever seen in the history of sports. I've never seen get, someone get that much better from one year to the next and win awards the way Joe Burrow did. Kenny Pickin went from 13 touchdowns and nine interceptions for consecutive years to 42 and 7 this year. You want to talk about popping, that's a serious pop. But then when I've turned a tape on, I don't see the same Joe Burrow type stuff in his game. I like Kenny Pickett. He's definitely gotten to be a lot better quarterback.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You talk about hand size. Everyone will try to diminish it. The fact is he had 30 plus fumbles over his career, and that is a concern. 30 fumbles is not an accident. You've been around long enough to remember Dave Craig. Everyone talked about his hand size. He fumbled a lot, too. It's a concern.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. By the way, so I saw something yesterday. There are times that, you know, I don't want to be swayed by a guy with his shirt off, the hotel lobby thing. but Evan Neal weighs 335 pounds. And I remember when Indomicon Sue came out. And he was like, whatever the weight was, he had abs. And I remember telling somebody, I'm like, that's not normal.
Starting point is 00:08:06 That's a Pro Bowl player. That body is going to last for Indomicon still playing. And I look at Evan Neal's body and I'm like, okay, that guy's not going to have a lot of injuries. That guy's going to wear well. That is a 15-year-N-F. That's Tyron Smith out of USC. I think I'd make the argument. That's who I would pick for.
Starting point is 00:08:24 first. What do you make of that shot and his body and everything? I think you're on to a good point, and it's about lean muscle mass. And I know you've had Chris Ballard on from the Colts, and he's a big believer in that. A lot of general managers are you want players to look a certain way. It's the Bill Parcell's old model. There's only a certain amount of people who walk the earth look a certain way, and they can do special things physically. And he's one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And I think what's interesting is when you watch him at Wright Tackle a year before last, he was powerful, but then he trimmed down in the offseason played less. tackle and it was much quicker. And when you were able to envision the quickness to go at the size, the strength, and the technique they teach at Alabama, I don't have a problem with him going number one. Typically, I wouldn't want to tackle to go number one unless you thought he was Hall of Fame caliber. But this year and the type of year that it is and the need you have after drafting Trevor Lawrence last year in Jacksonville, I got no problem with it. Draft away, Evan Neal number one, I'm fine with it, Colin.
Starting point is 00:09:19 What do you make all these receivers running, you know, 4, 4, 4, 3 and all this stuff? is it a great receiver? It seems to me, Lance, in my life, in the last three years, we have a change. A, they mean more, B, they're faster, and more of them just go college to pro and play and are great immediately. That's what it feels like to me. So I'm watching all these Ohio State guys and these guys run and I'm like, yeah, I've seen that in the last few years. Those guys will play and make an impact year one. That's what it feels like to me. Yeah, and then if you add Jameson Williams who transferred out of Ohio State, and listen, he would have been a four three guy as well. You would have had three Ohio State wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:09:57 at least at one point during their career, who all ran in a four-threes. I mean, that's unheard of. We're at a time right now where fast players are training for speed and we're getting numbers that we've never seen before. Now, the one thing I would point out is that a guy like Chris Alive, who's one of my favorite receivers in the draft, I mean, he's in a low one-80s.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's not like when D.K. Metcalf is running that same kind of speed, and he looks like D.K. Medcalf, one of the, you know, freaky testers who also looks, different than everyone else on earth. So I think that's one thing you have to keep in mind, Colin, is the speed. You see, like, the Rams fell in love with 2-2-at-well. We saw Dwayne Eskridge get drafted high because he ran fast. Fast guys are getting drafted higher right now, but you also have to deal with getting
Starting point is 00:10:38 off press. You have to have to deal with contested catches. So I love speed, speed kills, but it needs to be a speed that translates into the NFL, and you have to watch tape to get that. Just because you run a 4-2-8, like Taekwan Thornton, from Baylor. I mean, he was a track guy. I expected him to run fast. He's also like 182 pounds. That's tough to
Starting point is 00:10:59 make a difference in the league when you're that light. Lance Zerline. Great seeing you again, my friend. We'll bring you on near the draft. Can't wait. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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Starting point is 00:13:15 Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George but you got to do a little kill. Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:13:40 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's interesting. He has his scouting grading system here, and I'm looking at it. Eight is the perfect prospect. 7.3 to 7.5.
Starting point is 00:14:21 That's a perennial all pro. seven to seven one. Anytime you're in the sevens, you're either a pro bowl talent or a perennial pro. He said there's no eights, virtually very few sevens. So that's the draft we have. It's guys that could potentially,
Starting point is 00:14:36 there's a lot of day one starters, potential pro bowlers, but this draft does not have a perfect prospect or a perennial all pro. Doesn't make a bad draft. There's going to be a lot of good players. And again, what does that mean? It means the better the culture,
Starting point is 00:14:52 the better the draft it will be. So I'll show this to our TV audience. It's too long to read for radio audience. But he's saying there's no perfect prospects, there's no perennial all pros and very few Pro Bowl talents. It's a lot of year one starters, could be, and there's a lot of a lot of good starter in a couple years, some boomer bust, year one starter.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So what does that mean? It means, it may mean this is a draft where the bad teams that draft up high, don't really change anything. You're just getting starters. Like, sorry, Philadelphia, but three first round guys, they're starters, but they're not special. There's not special. So the bad teams next year, still going to be bad. There's no Chase Young here.
Starting point is 00:15:35 There is no Justin Herbert or whatever their number is, right? So what it tells me is the good teams, you know, it's a good year in the draft to be a good team because you're not missing out on superstars. There's going to be plenty of guys late first, late mid-second, mid-third that are all kind of really good potential starters. So it's a bad year to be a lousy team with a lot of first-round draft picks. You're going to end up paying guys who are starters. That's what it is. Joy Taylor with the news.
Starting point is 00:16:13 No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. It's usually a good year to be a good team, by the way. That's not a revelation of any. Sounds like it's going to be a chip on the shoulder year draft. Yeah. You're not any good.
Starting point is 00:16:27 You're no good either. You guys are bad. Well, I mean, I'm joking. But, you know, one of these guys is going to be great. So that's going to be the story that this is a very underrated draft. Yes. I mean, again, there's all sorts of starters. But they're just saying their grades, it is not.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I mean, like would Chase Young look different. Yes. They're generally always one to, two players in the draft that we can look at and say, okay, they're, they're going to fit in nicely to the NFL. It's not going to be a huge adjustment period for them. They're going to be raw. They're going to be rookies, but they're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Evan Neal being one of those guys. So Kevin Durant returned to the Nets lineup last night. He had him played since suffering an MCL sprain on his knee, January 15th. He had a game high 31 points as well as four rebounds and four assists, buts, Nets fell to the heat, 113-107. I don't like to react too much game-to-game during regular season. Just a game.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But look, I mean, I think we're both on the same page when it comes to the Nets. I think the Ben Simmons move really is for next year. I don't think the Nets are going to even look the same next year. I would not be surprised if Kyrie Irving is not there next year. That's my take. I think Simmons and Durant, Curry
Starting point is 00:17:49 Patty Mills I don't think Kyrie Irving is getting to a point and so don't lump Hardin and Kyrie Irving together Hardin is working day one in Philadelphia I don't know where Kyrie works
Starting point is 00:18:03 I really don't I don't know where he works anymore I don't think this season and what happened did anything positive for his career I mean it was great for PR year I mean it was great for the you know tinfoil hat people on
Starting point is 00:18:17 Twitter. You've got allegiances with them for the rest of your life. I don't know what that does for you. But basketball, I mean, I don't think that they have an opportunity to win a championship unless, I mean, Ben Simmons, we still have no timeline when Ben Simmons is back. No timeline. I don't buy it at all. I think people. Still no home games for Kyrie Irving. I think fans are going to razze Ben Simmons. I think players are going to beg him to shoot. He's going to get into his head. I think he lost confidence. I think he's an easy guy to rattle. And by the way, when you put it out there that you're easy to rattle, it brings in all the wolves. Like, it's one thing if you're bothered by criticism.
Starting point is 00:18:52 If I don't know it, I stay away. When you're not playing him, and the word is they don't, they think Philadelphia is too hostile. What's that going to be like the next time you're in Philadelphia? I'm like licking my chops to go after. I don't know why anyone thinks New York is any less hostile than Philadelphia. They're very demanding. Those Brooklyn hipsters are very demanding.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I mean, it's still New York. It's still New York City. You're still playing on a team with Kevin Durant. And really, KD is the thing that upsets me about this situation. I love watching Kevin Durant in the postseason competing for a championship. And I don't see how that that's possible this year, even though he's back healthy. Like, you don't have all your pieces. The season is slowly coming to an end.
Starting point is 00:19:39 There has to be some sort of chemistry move here. Get Ben Simmons on the floor and work that out. He's not a player that just fits anywhere. You still have Kyrie part-time. So, you know, don't want to react too much to it, but he can't do it by himself. It's still a team game. So the wide receivers ran the 40-yard dash to the combine yesterday. A lot of fast people on this planet and are all playing football.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yes. So the fastest time came from Baylor's Taekwuan Thornton, whose official time was 4.28 seconds. That doesn't even, that looks. Look at that. It looks like he's jogging. It's so effortless. And there was a guy from Ohio State. same thing. I thought somebody was speeding, editing, speeding up the editing. There's that
Starting point is 00:20:19 kid Lave for Ohio State. His video didn't even look real. Chris Lave. It looked fake. Well, he was the only one to run under 4-3, but there were eight players who ran under 4-4. That tied the record for the most sub-4-4-4-wide-by-wide since 2006. Yeah, Chris Olave ran under 4-4. Garrett Wilson of Ohio State as well. Look at this. Watch this. Watch this. God, he's big, too. He's big. Yeah, I mean, they're just, so fast. This is more... Look at that.
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's insane. It's cartoonish. You know, the funny thing is when you put these up against guys who are, who don't look great running the 40, it's such a stark comparison. Again, we know, you know, game speed obviously is completely different, but it's always fun to watch the 40 and they're just getting faster. God. What do you think you could run a 40 in?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Have you ever done it at the experience? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done the 40. You guys going to laugh at me. I used to be pretty fast. So in high school, I ran a 471. It's pretty good. Yeah, no, I could run.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I could do nothing else. I ran a track. There's no way I'm running for anything right now. So when I was 40 years old, I ran a 5-flat in tennis sneakers on grass. I'm not joking. Is there evidence of this? No, I got a tattoo because I lost a 40-yard dash. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But I have run. I can't anymore, but I could. You just revealed so many things. Tattoes. One right after the other. The worst part about losing that, the guy I lost who smoked and drank Mountain Dew and had hash browns for breakfast
Starting point is 00:21:53 every day of his life. That's who I lost to because he wore track shoes. They fooled me. We had a 40-yard dash on grass. He wore track shoes and I wore tennis shoes and I slipped. And he was a smoker and he drank Mountain Dew all day. Someone asked me the other day
Starting point is 00:22:08 an interview who would win in a like a sprinting race. you or Skip. Oh, I'd crush it. And I defaulted to Skip because Skip runs three miles every morning. Oh, big deal. But then I forgot that you are also a runner.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I'm 12 years younger, and I was a sprinter. I think we should shut this up for charity. No, I don't. But I would crush him. I would normally say I would beat both of you, but my speed is completely gone. He runs on a treadmill. Nothing happens to you. Skip would not appreciate this slander right now.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He does get up every morning and run three miles. So offensive lineman Evan Neal is one of the top players in this year's draft, and has a chance to be the first overall pick. It's been 74 years since the first pick from a player was Alabama, was a player from Alabama. And Neil said it would be special to have that honor. He said it would mean everything. You have a whole lot of Alabama players
Starting point is 00:22:55 that are worthy of having the number one spot. And for that to be me, that big stream is special. I feel like the whole state of Alabama would be proud. The University of Alabama would definitely be proud. Is that crazy? Yeah. They've never had a number one pick. Well, the last time was 1948. Who was it?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Washington selected. quarterback halfback, Harry Gilmer. You know what? I had him number two in that draft. So he shocked me because I had him, I had him as a second number two pick. Harry just leaked. He had a great combine. He knocked people's socks off at the interview. Harry was glib, very funny. People loved him. Well, look, I mean, Evan being the number one overall pick would make sense is what this draft is.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Jacksonville needs the left. I would take him into one second. He's my number one pick. I also, I don't, for quarterbacks, I think it's important. I mean, obviously it's very prestigious to be the number one overall pick in the draft. But if you're just the best player and that's the person who's, the team who's picking first needs your position, what is the issue? I don't like these rules for what position has to go number one overall in the draft. You have the first pick. Take what you need. If he's the best player, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Now, he's not Jonathan Ogden. He's not Tony Bisselli. He's not that kind of left tackle. He's not. His feet are as good. Maybe. Yeah, well, I mean, those guys were like Anthony Munoz. When I look at him, he's still 340 pounds.
Starting point is 00:24:16 He carries it well, but I don't think he has... But he's also going to get into an NFL weight room with NFL nutritionists and NFL trainers. Not that they don't have that, you know, very high level of all that at Alabama, but the NFL is the next level. I don't think he has all-time left tackle feet, but I think he has all-time left-tackle size. Yeah, well, that's a question. He's had the most impactful picture taken in the... in the combine in quite some time. He carries that very well.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But I think it's going to be a, I'm with you. It's not a, it's not a draft we're expecting big time trades in. No. No one's going to be moving up. Well, nobody wants to move up in the draft. There's not really a move-up guy. Maybe it will be. You know, every year we're like, there's going to be lots of trades.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's going to be very active and it never is. Maybe this year will be. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today around the corner with Jason McIntyre, one of my favorite segments.
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Starting point is 00:26:13 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
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Starting point is 00:27:28 Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to bowl your mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the look back. Added Podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack
Starting point is 00:28:14 what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah, yeah. But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point,
Starting point is 00:28:31 Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good day have you in. Tired of waiting around for hot water. Choose Navian. Lower your water bills. Hundreds on tankless water heaters.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Tankless made symbol.com. Jason McIntyre is joining us on a Friday. We call it tomorrow's headlines. today where he predicts what the headlines will be after events occur. And we've got a lot today. Let's start with something we both love, Jason. The NFL Combine, tomorrow's headlines today. Michigan defensive end, Aidan Hutchison. What's the headline going to be? So a lot of people have him staying, you know, Detroit. I don't know if he gets there, Colin. The headline will be, I have a Hutch. Aidan goes number.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Number one. I like the Michigan defensive end to go number one to Jacksonville. Colin, we saw it in the playoffs, right? The Rams had that awesome pass rush. Von Miller. You got Aaron Donald. You need to dominate in the trenches. And if the Jags can go Josh Allen on one side, Hudson on the other, I think you've got the foundation for something in Jacksonville. Even look at the Bengals who were in the Super Bowl. They go out and spend on Trey Hendrickson. Boom, he's a sack machine and they're getting pressure on the quarterback. Jacksonville was bad. I was way wrong. that was my worst projection last year. I'm not ready to go all in on Doug Peterson yet, but I like Hutchinson, who I don't think is quite a Bosa brother level defensive edge star. But in a draft, it's not really top heavy.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I think he's probably the best prospect, Colin. Yeah, and I think he's been dominant for several years, whereas Evan Neal hasn't been. And he also, this kid projects, I think, for most NFL people as the most dynamic, disruptive player in the draft defensively. so I think you're probably right. Tomorrow's headlines today. What's it going to be for Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett after the combine? Yeah, small hands picket, they call him, right? I mean, a hand-sized season, they say, the headline will be.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Can we see that? Like commanders make their first pick it. The Washington commanders, I don't know how I feel about that nickname. But, Colin, they are out there desperate for a quarterback. The only one on the roster right now is Taylor Heideke, right? and they've said they're going to call everybody in free agency and make place. Good luck getting someone to Washington, right? The skill position players aren't great.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Daniel Snyder doesn't have a good vibe. I don't think that it's a robust market for quarterbacks going to Washington. So you've got to go to the draft. And Kenny Pickett, who did measure with the eight and a half size hands, smallest for anyone since Michael Vick. Michael Vick was okay. He's a different quarterback than Pickett. This is my only concern with Pickett. And I do think he's definitely going in the first round.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Colin, the guy threw 39 touchdowns in his first four years combined. Then he makes the jump to light speed, throws 42 touchdowns last year. And you start to drill down a little more. Colin, he was 23 years old last year in his fifth season. So was this just a kid who's a little bit older dominating college football? His completion percentage went up 61% to 67, and he's turning 24 in June. So I'm not 100% certain that I love Pickett, but in a week mark, I think Pickett could push Taylor Heideke in Washington.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Wouldn't shock me if he's a starter week one. Yeah, if you watch him in the combine, it doesn't. The ball doesn't fly out of his hands. He looks very ordinary, and I think that's a fair. I just, I think he's pretty ordinary guy, but if he lands with a good team, he could start and win some games, but I don't see him as a superstar talent. All right, let's do tomorrow's headlines today. Malik Willis, Liberty quarterback.
Starting point is 00:32:28 He kind of popped yesterday. Yeah, like, kid looks good. And he's doing some cool stuff social media-wise. I think the ceiling is up on Mr. Willis. The headline will be Steelers get some Willis power. Pittsburgh Steelers in desperate need of a quarterback after Ben Rothesberger retired. Colin, I've had Jimmy G. Pegged to the Steelers for months now. Did you see the news on his throwing shoulder?
Starting point is 00:32:53 He won't be able to throw a football for 16 weeks. I don't know. I think that crushes Jimmy G's market. So I don't see Pittsburgh going in on him. I think Malik Willis, the kid out of liberty. Now, listen, he's very raw, Colin. I don't even know if he's ready to start week one. He took a lot of sacks.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I will advise against going to YouTube. Do not watch the tape against Ole Miss. He was awful when he had to step up in competition. You know, he kind of crumbled under pressure. But some of the raw abilities and that arm strength, it looks like there's something there. You kind of got to dust off some of the struggles. But I think Willis is something. And I think ultimately Pittsburgh has to make a move on him.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Because, Colin, what the hell else are they going to do at quarterback? Yeah. Tomorrow's headlines today. some uncertainty for a few NFL quarterbacks. Now what's the headline going to be for Carson Wentz this offseason? Okay, this is one of my favorites. I haven't heard anyone else say this. You know I love originality. The headline will be Ariens Sips on a case of Carson.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Give me Carson Wentz going to Tampa. Now, Colin, I was doing undisputed this week. So obviously I'm working the phone. It's working everybody I know. Give me something interesting. They pointed this out that was kind of compelling. Bruce Ariens thinks of himself as a quarterback whisperer. right? He played quarterback in Virginia Tech. He has a good history of working with
Starting point is 00:34:08 quarterbacks. He has said some stuff this week about how, hey, guys, everybody wants to give Tom Brady all the credit, but there was a lot of guys that won that Super Bowl for us. It's almost like he's pushing back against the notion that it was a Tom Brady-led team, and we're going to get back there. Now, I don't think that Blaine Gabbard's going to be the guy. I don't think Kyle Trask is going to be the guy, no matter what Arian says. So what does he have to do, Colin? He goes and makes a play for Carson Went, who, mind you, was a good, deep ball throw an indie, right? That's his strength and that's what Carson wants to do. No risk it, no biscuit. Yeah. I think Carson Wentz to Tampa makes a ton of sense.
Starting point is 00:34:42 They have a good, not great offensive line given the departure of Marpet to retirement and a couple guys up in free agency. But there is some hope for Carson Wentz to succeed in Tampa. No, I think this makes sense now that Garoppel's off the market. Tomorrow's headlines today, what's it going to be for Kyler Murray this offseason? Yeah, Colin, one of my favorite movies is the movie rounders, gambling. I'm sure you've seen it. Great stuff. The headline will be Murray up and pay that man.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Give Kyler Murray his money, Colin Coward. Colin, people refuse to note this, okay? The year before Kyle Murray got to Arizona, they won three games with Josh Rosen, okay, fired the coach. Kyler gets in there, they go 5, 10, and 1, marginal improvement. Second year, 8 and 8. Kyle Murray looking up, he was like an MVP fringe candidate for a minute. They cratered at the end.
Starting point is 00:35:30 year three, 11 and six, playoffs, Kyler Murray, a good season. Now, everybody wants to say, well, what happened at the end? Why were they so bad? Colin, DeAndre Hopkins kind of missed the end of the season
Starting point is 00:35:43 there, kind of a big deal? You take Cooper Cup from Matt Stafford, what happens? So I'm not as out on Kyler as everyone else. Now, I will say his teammates love him in Arizona. It's the front office that wants to see some more maturity from the guy, but Colin, I don't blame him, okay? He saw Baker McHill. Remember, his college teammate,
Starting point is 00:35:59 went into year three, asked Cleveland for the money after getting to the playoffs. Cleveland said, no, Colin, what happened to Baker in year four? Rips up his shoulder, has a terrible year, and Cleveland's not paying him now. So, you know, at quarterback, you're really one hit away from not getting paid. And if I'm Colin Marie, I'm fighting for that money. I want to get paid this summer. I think Arizona should pay him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Tomorrow's headlines today, Russell Wilson, drama continues. What's the headline? So I know you and him had kind of a bromance Super Bowl week out here. in L.A. I wonder if he mentioned this. The headline will be let Russ cook in Charlotte. Colin, hold on to your seat here. I've got, I've been working on this all week. I'm telling you. So Russell Wilson is from Richmond, Virginia, which is the south, kind of close to Charlotte. And his wife grew up in Atlanta, Sierra. This is a regional fit for Russell Wilson. And all I've heard from you and everyone else, boy, Aaron Rogers, he should just stay with the Packers. That division is awful.
Starting point is 00:36:59 No, waltz to victory. Well, Russell Wilson's in the toughest division in football. And if he were to get traded to Carolina, Colin, we're looking at a scenario where he waltzes to the division title. Brady's gone. Sean Payton's gone. Matt Ryan and the Falcons win in that division? I think there is a compelling case for Russell Wilson to quietly go to management, not like
Starting point is 00:37:20 last year, where he gave a list and say, hey, can you get me to Charlotte? Remember, their owner is the new billionaire hedge fund guy who love to take risk. He made a hard push for Deshawn Watson before Watson's life fell apart there. I think Russell Wilson and Carolina makes a great fit. And frankly, I think Russell Wilson's got a good chance to win there. Him and Christian McCaffrey, that's pretty dynamic. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Jason McIntyre, FS-1. Have a great weekend, buddy. You too, Val. I tell you what, the Carson Wentz thing is really interesting because the owner doesn't want him there. And you're not going to go from Tom Brady to like a, You know, like a kid you drafted last year, deep first, second round talent.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That makes sense. That's interesting. That's a lot of weapons, too. All right, we're done. Speak for yourself on a Friday is right around the corner. And what a fun week. Joy, a lot of big topics, a lot of things going on. We'll see you tomorrow or Monday.
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