The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 – Comeback Player of the Year Clarification

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

Bryce Young is improving but the Panthers are still in the worst position in the NFL. The guys preview Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. The NFL makes adjustment to the Comeback Playoff the Year.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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every single weekday here. But they've moved us back to fill in for Colin. And look, we're doing our part. We're doing our part to try and keep everybody informed. I would also say this. Can I defend the dog days of the sports calendar that a lot of people have looked at this being because the NBA finals are over.

Yeah, you've got the Stanley Cup final later on, but after that, then you're pretty much waiting. You've got some soccer games and stuff like that. You've got some baseball. and then you're just waiting for the football season to start. I think that gambling and the ability to bet on sports has completely wiped out the dog day's term. Because now everything's interesting.

You can bet on anything. LeBron and Aaron Rogers have done the same exact thing as well. No. What? Now I had to doubt sports. What do you mean? No down day. I mean, you can just gamble your ass off if you want to

on just pick a sport at any time. There's always something going on. Asia versus Italy. Yeah. Bam. Let's go Italy. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, okay.

Let's go Croatia. Damn. Whoa. I mean, they got to have a win to advance today. Oh, man. Brady's like 86% Italian. Me too. That is not true.

Don't be making up lies. Me too. I mean, 23 and me will. Change some things. Well, they say when you use your 23. Antiamo Italia. Oh, okay. Mons is you black, no?

It definitely did say that. Now, that being said, we talked and opened up the show discussing the story that came out, Tyler Dunn of Go Long, TD. He pointed out that, you know, I mean, I believe it's, is it Go Long? Lee, is that the name of the, that's the credit, right? Is it Go Long TD or something like, yeah, listen. It's hard to keep track of some of this stuff. But the point is he pointed out the information that came out of the Cowboys in which the feeling is Mike McCarthy is a little bit fed up with the influence Jerry Jones has and everything that's going on there.

And it's a circus and it's drama and it's to be expected when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. But at least Dallas is like a good team. Maybe they're not going to want a Super Bowl, but at least they're a good team. And you can complain about the owner getting involved too much. but they're always in the headlines. They're usually in the playoffs. Yeah, they don't pick up a lot of wins. But at least when it comes to Jerry Jones,

I would say his time as a Cowboys owner has been highly successful. It's why the guy's in the Hall of Fame. I mean, it's why Robert Kraft is really upset that he's not in the Hall of Fame because Jerry Jones got in before him. And apparently they have this rivalry, which would make, by the way, the hiring of Belichick, if they do move on from Mike McCarthy, that much more interesting to kind of stick it to Robert Kraft one last time if they hire him next year.

I'm just saying. Do you think they have some competition, like some vendetta against one another? Yeah, they don't like each other. Apparently, I think the story was Jerry Jones yelled at Robert Kraft in an owner's meeting and basically clowned him in front everybody. And Robert Kraft is not, and he was so distraught, he was so distraught that he took his talents to Jupiter, Florida, to really try and get over the whole thing. Where did he go?

Bobby Orchid The point is that There's all that going on Between Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy And then we transition over to the other Spectrum, which is a team who's got an owner That's too involved, but they're just awful. And Adam Thielen is a member of the

Carolina Panthers. By the way, he had a really good year last year, sort of under the radar Because they were so bad. But Adam Thielen was talking with Rich Eisen recently about what he expects and what he's seen from Bryce Young is they enter year two of the Bryce Young era there in Carolina. I look back to last year, those first two weeks of Chase, he wasn't even there yet.

He was still not even on a team yet. He was not, the draft hasn't gone on yet. So I'm thinking back to that like now he's there. Now we're getting routes on air. We're around each other. We're in the locker room together. We're BS and talking about how great the Timberwolves are because I'm a Timberwells fan.

So, you know, you have that time. together that we didn't have last year. And so you kind of started thinking and be like, man, like, that's, that's tough as a rookie quarterback. Come in, you're already behind the eight ball, learning the playbook, learning your players. And then it's like, again, like, take that month off.

You get away from each other. Maybe we get together quickly for a day or two. And then it's like the ground's running, boom, like training camp. Like, we got to figure out what the starter is. Like, okay, now he's the starter. Now we got to figure out the games, the preseason games and all that. So it was a whirlwind in a lot of ways. And that's not even talking about.

about the system and the coaching and the adversity and all that. So it's been a really cool offseason to see how he's just come back with, okay, like I got urgency, I got confidence, I have comfortability in the system, in the facility, and the locker room, and what that does for a player. I mean, if only they had a different owner, that'd be fine. Dang. Everything would be okay in Carrey. I mean, I don't know that David Tepper has helped the situation,

but I will say this. for all those things that Adam Thielen just said, was any of that different for C.J. Stroud? I mean, he came into a situation, you're only going to be a part of so much, right? And he came in and lit the NFL on fire. Now, I do think the roster was better out around C.J. Stroud. You know, I didn't think the offensive line protection was great.

Outside of Thielen, I don't know that anyone really emerged as a deep threat or any threat whatsoever, at least on a consistent basis for the them offensively. Defensively, they weren't as good as they were when, you know, Matt Rulwell's head coach. I mean, it kind of ended up being a dumpster fire. I mean, between play calling, going back and forth between Frank Reich and their OC and the I mean, it's just the whole thing. And look, that's not to take away from Bryce Young not playing good football.

And like the one thing that stood out to me that he did, and I had one of their games early in the year, was the way he would step up in the pocket. thing that in the NFL, it's hard to do and consistently get away with it is when quarterbacks typically have their shoulders perpendicular to the line of scrimmish. And what happens is when you start to turn where your shoulders are now parallel, you're essentially cutting off half the field. Like if you're a right-handed quarterback, the entire middle to right half of the field is cut off because you're not going to be able to kind of retwist and retort, you know, contort

your body to then fire something back to the right side of the field. And it's one of the reasons why when you hear about quarterbacks working on their footwork, for example, Jordan Love, the entire focus for him this off season was fundamentals of footwork. It's because oftentimes in college, you can get away with some of that, where you turn your shoulders parallel to the line of scrimmage and work up into the pocket. And look, if you do that, that's fine, but you've got to get it back square again. You've got to get back into a throwing posture where you can make a throw to end. portion of the field.

And that's some of the difference between getting away with certain plays in the college game and the way college players rush versus the NFL game, where, you know, those guys are retracing their steps. If they're trying to race to the spot of where you're setting the pocket and then you step up, they're going to counter, they're going to retrace right back down. And so you've got to get rid of that football if you're standing in the pocket. Oftentimes, you know, in college, you can still scramble. something that happened. You're just a better athlete. You're able to elude some of those guys.

And you can't get away with that quite as much in the NFL. So those are fundamental things that, like early on watching them last year, I was like, ah, that's one of those habits that you're going to have to get rid of. You're going to have to learn how to play this game a little bit different in that respect. And it's hard. You know, it's one of those things you've got to drill out, but you really only get those reps in live game scenarios where you are live. You can be hit. You can be sacked. And you can try it in practice, but it's not quite the same. So he needs to have a big step from year one to year two. And yet he's got, again, another new coaching staff and everything else.

He's got to absorb, even though he is there for the entirety of the off season. I mean, I hope it works out for him. He looks so small. I wonder what he looks like physically coming into this season. I mean, we looked at a few quarterback. Probably the same height, I would assume. You think the same size, though? No.

I mean, I doubt, I would assume he's not. I mean, I know he's not going to grow taller, I'm assuming, but. She just gas up in the offseason. What would you recommend, John? Oh, my God. I mean, you know. And that's how he's going to grow taller. Pick a card, any card.

Whatever you got to do. Go lay to hang by your ankles. Go talk to the guy. Help stretch out Kenny Pickett's hands. Remember that guy? Oh, yeah. They do have this new surgery for your knee caps where they can add like three to four inches on to your height.

I did. I did see that. That was big for some of these guys who were trying to date. Yeah, it looked pretty painful, though, for the first time of healing. We'd have that conversation about, well, again, different time slots. Yeah, yeah. You don't have talking about that. Yeah, I kind of know where you're hearing.

Remember, we were saying, like, what really would you want to lengthen? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I mean, you know. And you could potential. I'm not going to touch it. No, I'm not going to touch it. Anyway, you know, to me, that was the biggest glaring observation of Bryce Young last year was just how small he looked like.

Kylo Murray is short, but Kyle Murray still has like a thickness about him, you know. He still looks like he can physically take a hit from a defense. Just don't look at Jonas. Just don't look at him. I'm not doing it. Listen, I'm trying to be a professional broadcaster. You're the worst.

What did you call him? Thickums? What would you say? Thickens. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in all seriousness, a little bit more, you talked about,

like, if he looked the same, like, Russell Wilson and him are about the same height. Right. height-wise. So, like, do you want, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Do you want him to come back and look more kind of muscular built like Russell? I think he needs to be stronger, man. I think he has, he needs to have a stronger feel, a stronger look to him.

And I think a lot of that, to me, has to do with, I don't know. I just feel like he needs to be able to take a hit. He needs to be able to take a hit. He needs to be.

be able to run the ball. He needs to be able to be stronger in the things that he does. And ultimately, I'll just be honest with you, he needs to look more physically inclined than what he did as a leader. Like, he just really looked puny. If I'm being honest, like he just looked like a puny guy out there. And I think that plays a part. I think it plays a part in his confidence. I think it plays a part in the confidence of the team around them. I mean, There have been guys that have done it. I mean, I think first thing that comes to mind is like Doug Flutie comes to mind. Like Doug Flutie had a hell of a career and there's some really cool things.

And he was super, super tremendously undersized. But I would just be wondering what does Bryce Young look like coming back physically? And then along with the mental capabilities that he brings to the table, can he take a definitive step forward in what he's able to do in order to make this team a better team? and how much of that falls at the feet of Bryce Young in this scenario. So there's going to be growing pains that he's going through. And if they're, well, I'm not using that to be as any sort of a joke. But I say that because if you are going through all that, that's the worst organization you could have that in.

A losing organization is the worst organization that you would be in, being a top draft pick and needing time to grow. Like if you're a coach. I think their win total is five or five and a half. Like is six and eleven, which would be exceeding expectations, is that going to be enough to get David Tepper to not stop by on the way to a draft to complain about somebody's signage that they've got out in front of a bar or a restaurant? Like, that's the problem. Tepper might pop by the studio.

Yeah, that's the problem. Throw some beer on this. I don't know. He's from Pittsburgh, I believe. Is he? We should be okay. At least he went to school in Pittsburgh. Yeah.

I think he is from Pittsburgh. I think he's got like the business school at Carnegie Mellon. Yeah. He's got a good business school there. I'll do some research on David Tepper here. Oh, David Tepper. Like the Tepper School of business or something? David Tepper.

Oh, yeah, Pittsburgh. How about that? How about it? LeVar's right. Yeah, we know each other. I mean, you know, so maybe. I mean, I don't know him. I'm just saying we know, you know, you know when somebody's from here.

Interesting. Yeah. It's got to be a tough spot, the tough place. to play. You would assume so. Nothing like he literally stopped by and complained about signage out in front of a bar at a restaurant. He's fired, what, two coaches now?

Matt Rule and Frank Reich are both, you know, is Matt Rule still getting paid or because he took the Nebraska job? He's no longer getting paid. That's a great question. I'm not sure with the specifics. You know what my bet is? I bet he's not getting paid from them. He probably had offsets in his contract.

he's probably done by now I mean as in it hasn't it's been two years at least he's been on Nebraska this will be year three he signed a seven year deal yeah he might still be getting paid bro he might still be getting paid but there might be offset there might be offset I think there was offsets

and I think that was one of the reasons why when he took the job in Nebraska people were like no he wanted to go back and coach you know I mean it's like you look at Christian McCaffrey left Carolina continue to play well. They had some players there.

DJ Moore. They have some players. Brian Burns. The Brian Burns trade didn't make any sense. You just traded away arguably your best player? That's for all their guys. Like they found them.

I mean, not arguing. There's two names you threw out there that are your best players. That's down. I mean, it is what it is. You found them. Like, those are yours. And they're like, ah, no, we feel. Hey.

You know, we'll move on. And I just, I don't get it, man. I don't know how anybody's optimistic there. Then he goes and becomes the best player on another team. And they go to the Super Bowl. He's still getting paid. And it gets paid again. I mean, what the hell?

It's like, and Colpo. You know, like, there's just, all of it. It's just crazy, man. All kinds of talent leaving out the door. What's wrong with you guys? It's a worst situation in the NFL. And it's not even close. Worst situation in the league.

So congratulations to the Saints. Good luck. To the Atlanta Falcons as well too. And everybody else in that division, the Bucks, on having an extra buy week because the Carolina Panthers are still there. So that's good news for all of you. It is too, no, it's not too pros in a cup of Joe. It is.

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hours into the program, feeling about game seven coming up later on tonight. Any more nervous than you already were? Not good, Jonas. I can't work. You know, it's great. It's great not having a dog in the fight to where you can just watch it and be entertained by it. You know, like he just There's a portion of me that

gets it. I mean, Connor McDavid's arguably the best player in the NHL, so he's played long enough where I think there's a lot of hockey fans who want him to win it. I completely understand that. But I don't know, man, even though it's been a great two-year run for the Florida Panthers, you never know.

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I'm just saying, you know. You know, Lovar and I are Penguins fans. We don't have that problem. We just, you know. Yeah, we don't have anyone to tear for it right now. We're an off season. There's cups. There's a lot of them.

But when it comes to the odds on that game, by the way, it's pretty even on draft kings. I'm seeing the money line. Florida is a minus 112. The Oilers are a minus 108. So they're basically, you know, at this point, it's just, you know, pick your team. And then you just go from there. So we get to see that Game 7 play out. Speaking of odds, this is kind of, let's sure how I feel about this.

So the NFL announced last week that they were kind of changing, and this is the Associated Press that they announced this as far as an NFL award goes, rather. But they're clarifying their criteria for the comeback player of the year, saying it should be a player overcoming injury and illness, not a player following a bad year. Is that a shot at Joe Flacco? is that what that is this is this because people are upset that demar hamlin didn't win comeback player of the year and joey flacco got up off a futon somewhere and led the browns to the playoffs and won the comeback player

of the year and instead of just celebrating that we've got to sit here and now make adjustments to the award and now make adjustments to uh to who can actually qualify for this award i mean because like what does it matter if you're coming off a bad year and you have a better year like bryce young Bryce Young's like a 25 to 1 to win comeback player of the year, all right? Is he, like, is he not qualified because he didn't go through enough injuries last year? Enough, he didn't get banged up enough. Like, how's this work? Can you have such a horrible year where they say you're eligible to be a comeback player?

Like, how bad does that have to be? I mean. Like, how bad does your season have to be for you to say, yep, you're a comeback player of the year recipient? What am I coming back from? Here's what I don't understand about them trying to, I don't know, clarify the criteria. The, DeMarne Hamlin's situation was incredibly unique. And it felt like there was a big push to get him the award for what he overcame to get back just healthy enough to be on a team. Yet it swerved away from what the award's been in the past.

So why are we then making an award around essentially what's happened to DeMar Hamlin? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's not we should make it the rule around more of the norm, not an outlier. I mean, unless we start seeing that all, you know, all of a sudden all over the field. I don't think that's going to be the case. But there is a sense that there was a lot of people who are frustrated that they wanted Demar Hamlin to win. He didn't end up winning.

And instead, the award won the Joe Flacko, which, in my opinion most fit I think that a specific category given the way he uplifted the Browns and considering what had happened in the prior probably two years of his career How many games Joe Flacco played for the Browns last year like seven or eight

something like that? So he's played seven or eight games as a Brown's quarterback and already won more awards than Deshawn Watson has since he's been there. And he's not even there anymore. It's kind of impressive by Joe Flacco and not all that impressive from Deshawn Watson. Now, would you guys... What are you getting at?

Well, I'm just, you know, you've got to be available at some point. I think that would help everybody involved. Now, do we have any game show music and promptu game show music here? Because we do have ourselves some odds, all right? So if we're looking at a comeback player of the year, since they want to go ahead and manipulate the rules because everybody's upset that DeMar Hamlin didn't win last year and Joe Flacco did, we do have some odds here.

and we have a live studio band again this is a brand new setup in studio here so we have a live studio band they're plugging their instruments in right now and they are getting ready to go all right guys you take it away and uh there and we and there they go uh right there you hear them uh they are they are all jamming away here uh and they are trying to stay out of the camera shots so they are behind the cameras here as we are being filmed in studio right now so the live studio band is piping away this just incredible music as we look at the comeback player of the year odds that the AP is trying to manipulate now

because they're upset about DeMar Hamlin. All right, so who would you say is the shortest odds? I don't want to say the favorite because it's still plus money, but the shortest odds to win comeback player of the year, if you had to guess. Who are you guys going with? Aaron Rogers. Yeah, it has to be.

That is correct. Aaron Rogers is sitting at plus 125. So Aaron Rogers is there plus 125. No, why not? Gosh. So you don't even, like, why? Why are you hating so much, man? I don't know.

It's not going to happen. I don't know. Is at this point, do you just not want to be wrong? Is that what it is? No, I don't care about being wrong. You know, it's radio. It's got to be other quarterbacks. He's got to be like, Burrow.

He missed time. Joe Burroughs on there. Burrow is a plus 250. What's Couss? Kirk Cousins is a 5 to 1. What's Russell Wilson? Russell Wilson is 20 to 1. What's Justin Fields?

Justin Fields is 40 to 1 Okay, but again, those guys aren't coming off injuries Like, was this your problem with the definition of it? Yeah, but like they're mixing in all these players that are, and they're trying to tell you while... I'm with you on what you're saying. I'm with you. I understand what you're saying, but it's always been this way.

Yeah, I do get it. But now they're saying that they're focusing more on the injuries. Like you've got to be coming off an injury or an illness to really. get serious consideration. So if that's the case, then why would Russell... Or losing your office. Yeah, like Russell Wilson and Daniel Jones.

I mean, not many players could come back from going to having a 16 bedroom with 19 bathrooms. No, no. It was the opposite of 16 bedrooms with like four bathrooms, three bathrooms. No, it was a four bedroom with a 16 bathroom. That's correct. That's correct.

It was all the crap closet. Yeah, the guys got 16 craftcloth. That architect walked in there. He had IBS. And it's all got. A hot sauce. At lunch. And by the way,

bathroom here. Can we get a bathroom here? By the way, what does it say about the optimism around the Steelers that both their quarterbacks are up for a comeback player the year? I wanted to say that. That's why I asked them consecutively. Hold on. Doesn't that make the case that there's optimism for them then?

Not for one. Well, no, but whoever ends up starting, you got a hedge. Yes. By the way, Flacko only started five games in the course of the regular season, which it's a regular season award. So he was able to do that in five games. All right. He was four and one as a starter. So technically that's why you'd see that Justin Field to isn't getting first crack at it.

It's going to be Russell Wilson first. The hell we need four or five games. There you go. All right. Now, Sam Darnold sitting at 20 to 1. All right? He's in the vicinity. But what injury is he coming back from?

He just didn't play last year because he was backing up Brock Purdy. So you're saying feelings are part of injuries. It's a comeback. Feelings are injuries. You can get your feelings hurt. Listen, I believe that every, if you're coming, it doesn't matter what you're coming back from, injury illness, bruised egos, bruised egos, benches.

You know what I mean? There you go. Yeah, like anything like that. Nick Chubb, 12 to 1. That's a real comeback. Yes. That's a good one. That's a good one.

That's also a sneaky guy. And you won't want him to win. Yes. You know, because that was a pretty gruesome injury. You'd love to see him come back and play well. Now, I would like to point out somebody who is coming back from injury that I believe has no shot in hell of winning comeback player of the year. Dang. Step right up.

Besage Watson. You, sir, will not be rewarded for coming back from injury. It would be interesting if he won to award, though. I don't think he's going to. you think they're going to give him an award? I mean, it would be the first time he'd be a comeback player. Oh, geez. Brady, your thoughts.

I'm not touching it. No, you're not. But massage was going to come back for it. I know exactly what he was just doing there. So I will congratulate you, LeVar. That's very well done. I tell you, we're not getting asked back. There's no chance we get this time slot ever again.

All right, so can I be serious with you, though? Very well done, LeVos. Thank you. I'll be serious with you, though. All right. You know who's got great value at 40 to 1 to win comeback player of the year? Who? Justin Herbert.

What? Why is he in the running? Why is he? How's he in the running? He got hurt last year. What about Trevor Lawrence? Where's Trevor Lawrence? I believe he's, where is Trevor Lawrence?

He could be the dark horse. How many games that Herbert have missed? Like one or two? Um, no, there's more than that. Was it? Yeah, it was more than that? I don't remember that. But, I mean, if you believe that that's going to be a pairing, him and Harbaugh, and he comes back and he's out here.

I think they're going to have an excellent year. I do, too, as a team. I don't know that statistically he's going to be passing for as many yards and so forth. I mean, he missed four games last year. Think about his prior two seasons, he darn near through for 700 attempts in the regular season. Like, that is ridiculous. Like, that's not Jim Harbaugh's blueprint. Hmm.

Gardner Minchew, 75 to 1. That's an interesting one. It's not going to happen. You don't think? No. What do you know? There's a better chance of my Gardner winning comeback player of the year than Gardner Minchew. It's not happening.

And he didn't, no, not really. Leave the jokes here. I know what you want to do, LeVar. Leave it alone. I'm going to leave it a lot. I know. All right. By the way, I'm jotting down stuff that we can't say in this time.

thought that we should use tomorrow though. Because I do think we've stumbled upon some material here. That would make some sense. So there is your look at the comeback player of the year. So Aaron Rogers is the favorite. Levars guy, followed by Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins, Anthony Richardson, Nick Chubb and Sam Darnold. Those are your leading connections.

I'm hoping for Nick Chubb, man. I am too. I agree with that. That's a fair one. That's a great value at this point because I feel like once he comes back and showcases the first few weeks, he's going to be healthy. Like, it's only going to go up from there. Yeah. So that is a... I hope he can do it.

Jeez, that was a bad injury. Bad one. And the fact that they went through that, and still... And still made the playoffs. Yeah. They still made the playoffs. Jill Flacco stepping up. I mean, can you get the award two years in a row?

I mean, I guess it doesn't matter. But it did go to Cleveland last year. Well, the Jets had rookie of the year on both sides, right? So, you know, teams do get the – can get the same award. So, you know, comeback player of the year two years in a row for the Cleveland Browns? Why not? Why not? What's more likely that Nick Chubb once comeback player of the year

or that Deshaun Watson starts all in the game for the Browns? Can you split the award? Can you have co-award winners? Because I feel like Justin Fields and Russell Wilson could do that this year. What if they both – Did you – You're really coming off as a hater and you're not. What if they both had...

What if they both had... You're hating on the Stillers? Well, what if they both had really good seasons? They could. Right. What if they both had tremendous success this year? It would be kind of impossible, wouldn't it? No.

What do you mean? Why would you be... Why would you be... I'm trying to remember. I'm just saying. Did Arthur Smith try to run a two-quarterback system at some point? I don't know. Oh, with the...

what is in Atlanta? Yeah. Why am I blinking on his name? Ritter, Desmond Ritter, and who was the other guy? Yeah, Mario, well, Mario, didn't he quit the team? I think you liked the team at some point.

Just to say, you know. My knee was a little sore, and I had to go get it checked out. Hold on a second. It was a rush. It was a pressing issue, so I had to just go right away. So let me get this straight.

We're bad, and I'm not playing. I'm going to go to Oahu. I'll see you guys later. Go back home. F this. They did they roll out, did he? Did you see what, so there was a trailer that came out for Madden 25. Did you see what was on the trailer?

It was Justin Fields returning kicks. That's disrespectful, right? He has played good quarterback in the NFL at times, and they got him as a kick returner. I mean, but just imagine if he played a different position and, like, let's just say, made the pro bowl as like a slot receiver like pulled a like a um what's my guy I played for it for Indiana was the quarterback Antoine Randall Lale who which by the way did that in Pittsburgh right I'm just saying what if they put him at slot and he ends up making a pro bowl Russell Wilson ends up making a pro bowl being an amazing quarterback and they should both share comeback player of the year

yes or no that'd be neat right I'd be cool to see but I think your disrespect of Justin Fields as a quarterback. I would agree. That's fair. I just think that Russell Wilson is way better. That's all. Well, I mean, it definitely is a hot take.

Do you think that? No, I don't. I was going to say, man. You've been sarcastic that because every time I'm being sarcastic the whole time. Okay. I don't think we have a quarterback right now. Hey, you know what? I'll say we too.

Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Here we go. Stillers, here we go. Pittsburgh game going to the Sioux football.

Not with them quarterbacks. Here we go. Well, look, I'm not going to... But that's all right. I mean, I'm a Steelers fan. We're natural haters. I'm not going to throw water on your take at all. But speaking of which, for hot water that never runs out,

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All right, here we go. A lot of expectations for Colorado football and Coach Prime as they head into year number two. And with all the hype that follows Dion Sanders, many have wondered how long will he stay in college before making the jump to the NFL? Well, Coach Prime tells Joel Clatt, not so fast. Quote, I'm a leader of men, not a follower of men. I'm a father, not a baby daddy. I lead my sons. I don't follow my sons.

My sons, Travis included, are getting ready to migrate to the NFL. I'm not following them to the NFL. Well, technically, he would be hired before they would be drafted. So... Technically. So he wouldn't be following him. Yeah, exactly. Okay.

Just saying. Would he ever leave Colorado for a different job in college football? Hell yeah. Like Florida State. For real? Like this? Like Florida State? Like Florida State? I don't know. I feel like they gave him the cold shoulder the first time they went around instead hired Mike Dorvell. I mean, what about Colorado?

Like Barr? What about, you know, maybe... What about Dallas? Yeah, maybe... I mean, you guys already tried to fire Mike McCarthy. If LeVar did earlier the show. Or, hey, what if the Denver Broncos decided they wanted to move on from Sean Payton, you know, it's right there. I mean, it's right up the road.

You could make that happen. You know, that could be a possibility for Deion Sanders to be the next Broncos head coach. Like, we threw out the idea of him maybe going to the Cowboys as well, too. So there was that possibility. There was. That was thrown out there. Yeah.

And I don't think he's going anywhere. I think he's got a good thing going. What if, okay, so if his son Shadour ends up being number one, or one of the top quarterbacks in this upcoming class, likely going high in the draft, right? Which means the team isn't very good. So what if it's not immediately he makes the jump?

But let's say Chador is in year two, year three in the NFL, whoever his head coach gets fired. So now we're talking two, three years down the line. But wouldn't we say, isn't that what life is about? Sometimes you got to pivot. Sometimes you rethink things. Sometimes you evolve. Sometimes life happens.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I wouldn't say that he wouldn't never. consider it, but just from my conversations with Prime, I don't think he has any aspirations to go to the pros to coach. It just doesn't seem like that's where he wants to coach. And I would say that confidently from the conversations that I've had with him, that that's, he college is where he really, really loves being a college coach. That's what I would throw out there. I don't know. I would be curious to see. Go ahead, I was supposed to say. I'd be curious to see how it would be taken because at that point

time they might not be doing well but he'd be in a position. Chadour would be to be extended. So then what role would Coach Prime play and all that? Like that could be kind of a sticky situation. Right? So LeVar and I think Brady you guys both think it's much more likely he'll take a different job in college than ever just go to the NFL. Oh no, I think if you got an opportunity in the NFL, you know, he would go. I don't. If you're an ultimate competitor, and that's the highest

level, and he obviously is a Hall of Fame or one of the best to ever do it, I'm just saying somewhere inside that's there, right? I think it's in there. You think about it, but I just don't. I don't think he leans that way. My estimation, I don't think he

leans that way. Does he go to, is there a chance that one day he goes to Florida State? Yeah Texas A&M or something like that Or Texas Yeah But the league

I just don't think he I just don't think he wants to coach in the league I could be off But that's just what I got from him What else we got music? Well we've been talking a lot about the Dallas Cowboys And Mike McCarthy Let's take a little bit of a pivot there

We know Micah Parsons has been great so far In the NFL The problem is we also know Cowboys not great in the postseason. Parsons was asked about the playoffs and some of the reactions to America's team coming up short, and here's what he had to say. The criticism is a privilege because sometimes a great standard is not good enough for those who want to be greater. When people want things, you have to answer that call.

I don't even see it as a negative thing. It is the most positive thing people can say to me because it pushes me to be better. It's a great privilege for someone to say, hey, you're great, but you can still be greater. That from the Dallas Morning News. and he's going to get paid. I wonder what that contract's going to look like. Do they have to pay him? Is he eligible this year or is it next year

that he would be eligible to get a deal done? Michael Parsons. He's eligible this year. And you know they're going to wait because that's what they always do. He'll be the highest paid defensive player. Yeah, that one got done. That one got done pretty quick. He was in Cancun.

Carbo. Or Cabo, yeah, with a muscle for. Mango deck. Is that what's called? Mango deck. Oh, boy. Sheesh. We'll work out on that beach.

A covo wobbo. Whoa. What's over there? Like a lot of, uh... Mango deck. Yeah. A lot of mangoes and decks. A lot of, like, the weight room pretty good over there.

You know what I mean? So I'm not going to say anything. Why not? What's wrong? That's wrong that? I don't know. Oh, yeah, you know? I don't know.

We're figuring this out. It's do a different time slot. So, you know, you got to learn. And be careful with what you say. You say it mango deck. I do wonder if the relationship between Mike Zimmer and Michael

Parsons might be one that escalates to the point to where Mike Zimmer is like putting his hands on him like he did Kurt Cousins. Oh wow. I don't know that that's going to work out. Yeah. You see those guys is a little different. Yeah, I might think better of that one.

Mike Zimmer's a little fiery. Yeah. So if he's not. He's not. He's not. He's not a fool, though. But maybe he wants to, maybe Mike Zimmer looks at Michael Parsons and says, listen, I saw how he worked against that sumo wrestler. He saw him against that sumo wrestler.

He won the second time, bro. He lost the first, but he won the next guy. He did. What you mean? You don't know. He pushed that big man up out of that circle. Yeah, I think it was choreographed at that point. I would just say this.

He felt bad for him because he was a guest. Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know. That's some horsepower in them legs. pause. You know. It is interesting, though, that with the Dallas Cowboys, you've got maybe the best, one of the best defensive players in the league,

one of the best wide receivers in the league, like talent everywhere. Both in need of a contract. Both unhappy right now. And coach that's just kind of fed up with the owner there. Dang. So we started hour one. Our three. Bookend.

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