The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Dana White stops by The Herd

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

Colin talks to UFC President & CEO Dana White about Halloway vs Poirier 3 and what Conor McGregor has in common with Caitlin Clark Tomorrow's headlines todaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, hour three. We finally had Dana White. He's busy. He's in New Orleans. UFC 318. This is going to be a great card highlighted by one of those classic fights. Remember when McGregor and Nate Diaz would meet two and three times?

And you're like, Saturday, you knew what you were going to be doing. And I think we got Dustin Porier, who's one of the all-time most likable fighters, most interesting, most entertaining against Max Holloway. They're meeting for a third time. I don't want to waste Dana White's time. He's the CEO and the UFC president. He is joining us live from New Orleans, and we appreciate he's a busy guy. So it's interesting, in the history of UFC, the best fighters I've ever seen are John Jones, who was unbelievable in his prime, and I think Khabib, who made even Connor McGregor look completely outmatched.

But Dustin Porier, who fights Holloway tomorrow, is one of the more entertaining, likable, interesting guys. he's on that second tier of guys that when he fights I have to watch. Did you envision him when you found him being this great, this captivating for this long, Dana? Who, Max and Dustin? No, no, no. Both hand. Porriere. These guys have.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you never know. You never know. Obviously, you know, when he first faced Connor, they were really early in their careers. And Connor won that fight. and you never know how a guy is going to bounce back from a loss. But if you look at Porey's last 11 fights,

I mean, it's all been straight killers, and seven of them are former world champions. So he's absolutely a very special fighter, as is Max Holloway, which is what makes this fight so intriguing. And the history of the UFC, nobody's landed more strikes than Holloway, and Poree will sit in the middle of the ring and throw blows.

is you know what's interesting about your sport? And I was talking to a member of the staff. When Caitlin Clark came to the WNBA, they weren't prepared for it. They weren't well-run. They weren't well-organized. She's overwhelmed, and the officiating's bad. You and the Fertitas ran a great sport. So when Connor McGregor arrived, you were prepared for it.

But like Caitlin Clark, he was so damn popular, so fast. And I want you to talk about that. You have not only been on the ground floor, but you had your kids. Caitlin Clark. You had a superstar emerged that was literally the most viral human being in American sports. So as the WNBA is struggling with Caitlin, go back to the Connor days of what it's like to run a sport and here comes a superstar, a Taylor Swift, into your lap. Do you remember, was it great? Did it create anxiety? Take us back to that time. Yeah, no, I mean, the first time that I ever sat down and had dinner with Connor McGregor in Las Vegas,

he flew out from Ireland. And I left the dinner and I called Lorenzo Furtita. And I said, let me tell you what. I don't know if this guy can fight or not, but if he can even throw a punch, he's going to be a huge superstar for us. And obviously, you know, we leaned into that. And you're right.

Listen, Caitlin Clark is a massive superstar. So all the stuff that I got going on right now, I actually had my assistant look to see when, I have season tickets to the Aces. So I had them find out, you know, when she was coming to town and I'm clear on my schedule so I could go to that game and watch her play live. I agree with what you're saying. Yeah.

So you are apparently, I just read this the other day and this made news, I'm going to have a card at the White House. So you've gone to an island. You travel around the country. Now you're going to have something at the White House. Obviously, I mean, there's security and all these things. Were you shocked when that was offered to you or did you know that was coming? I did not know it was coming, yeah, but when he offered it up, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm all in on this.

So we've already sent a logistics team out there that have walked the White House. There's calls going back and forth every day between Craig, we're sorry, my head of production and the White House. And then we will have all these renderings done within the next 10 days and we're to fly out, sit down and walk them through it and see what he wants and what he doesn't want. So you're also getting involved in boxing with Canello and Crawford. So you and I have talked about this. We both grew up boxing fans. I grew up with Muhammad Ali and Frazier. I grew up with Sugar Ray and Hearns and Hagler.

You did too as a Boston guy. And then you're part of UFC. I prefer UFC. I think it's more consistent. I think the quality, the women's division. But I still have a soft spot for a great boxing match. I saw Pachiel fight six times. So as you go into boxing, why did you choose to do it?

You know, I've been talking about it for a long time. You know, I've had a lot of criticism of boxing over the years. And now here I am. It's time to put my money where my mouth is. And tickets go on sale today, actually, for Canello Crawford. Legion Stadium, September 13th, tickets on sale today. You know, for me to be able to, my first boxing match that I'm going to promote, other than McGregor Mayweather, is Canello versus Crawford,

you know, two of the greatest fighters of our era. And a big massive fight in a stadium in Las Vegas, I mean, this whole thing just sort of fell in my lap. I have other plans in 26 and what I'm going to do with boxing, but this fight here, yeah, this just sort of happened. Shake Turkey and I ended up doing this deal for me to promote this fight. So Max Holloway and Dustin Porriere tomorrow, one of the hard things for you, even in Nick Connett's WWE, although UFC is different, obviously, is finding your next star.

Now, in the NFL, you have a draft. You have seven rounds of draft. And they come to you. But in your world, where do you find, take me behind the scenes on the standout, where do you find your next Dustin Poirier? Where do you find your stars? Are you flying around the globe to find, do you have a team of people that do that? Yeah, we do. I have matchmakers that are always looking for up-and-coming talent,

but where it really comes from right now, we do a show called Data White's Contender Series. It starts in August, and the best unsigned fighters in the world fight each other on this show to see who earns a contract, and it's been unbelievable for creating talent. We've already had three world champions come off that show. So, yeah, that's really where it is.

right now. Okay, UFC 318, Holloway, Porriere, tomorrow, the smoothie King Center in New Orleans. It's a great, by the way, it's a great, great venue. It's going to be wild because Porier is actually from there, Holloway's from Hawaii. Before I let you go, forever, there was this stupid stigma about you can't have pro teams in Vegas. And, you know, it was ridiculous. I mean, nobody monitors sports gambling like Vegas. They don't want games thrown. So now you've got hockey. You've got a baseball coming. You've got the Raiders. For people that haven't been to Vegas in a while,

are you surprised how willing over the last five years pro sports have been? I mean, you were the first in that really you, because boxing was all over the place. Are you surprised that people have finally embraced Vegas over the last half decade? Well, I think it was the gambling issue. I think that, you know, they were so stuck on the gambling issue. And once I got over, you could take it. Now, if you grew up in Vegas, when you think about the UNLV runner rebels, they were like the pro team when I was a kid,

and they were so well supported and, you know, financially and people buying tickets, and the list goes on and on. I knew that, listen, if you're going to go to an away game for your team anytime during the year, which one are you going to pick? You're definitely going to Vegas. It's a no-brainer. You go in there, you have an unbelievable weekend, tons of hotels, the greatest restaurants in the world, the best shopping. There's always

something to do. And it's just a no-b. I mean, there are so many sports teams. There's going to be a ping-pong league there pretty soon. Vegas is the sports capital of the world right now. Dustin Porri, before we go, when a boxer gets older. And do they say to you, hey, Dana, this is going to be my last fight? Do you approach them sometimes and go, you know what, man, care about your health, we care about you as a guy. When you get a Porriere, who's still very good, who makes the decision, Dana? Do you ever lead that and say, hey, guy, I think you got about two fights left? Well, Porriere and Holloway are ranked number four and number five in the world in the nastiest division in the sport. So, you know, it's not like they're on this huge decline

or anything like that. And, you know, Porriere was the one that said, I think I'm ready to retire. and he wanted to do it here in his home state. And think about this, highest grossing event in arena history tonight, or Saturday night and over 17,000 in attendance. So still a huge superstar, still on top of his game and a legitimate, badass fight for his last fight, you know, his retirement fight. So, no, there's stuff. I would never go to a guy like Pori and say, hey, you should think about,

know, retiring. There have been guys, but it's usually guys that are on a skid and don't want to retire. Those are usually the ones that I say, you know, you should probably hang it up. So I'm buying it tomorrow. Max Holloway, Dustin Porriere, UFC 318. Danny, you're a busy guy. I always appreciate you stopping by and giving the herd 10 minutes. Good to see you, buddy. All right. It's going to be a great fight. Those guys will stand in the middle of the ring. Porriet's last fight. Holloway's still good. Holloway more of a volume guy. Porriet is going to stand up and try to knock you out. So that's going to be good stuff.

Dana White's stopping by. Tomorrow's headlines today as well. I know what I'm doing tomorrow night. A lot of people would be out partying. Not me, J. Mack. Home early. Buying it. Ready to go. What do you have in a cocktail with Zach Taylor or something?

What's going on? No. Hey, by the way, what's your poll say now and that? Oh, let me call it up here momentarily. I really don't like this Twitter machine. But, okay, currently, oh, the gap is shrunk. Zach Taylor, 56%. Mike McDaniel, 43%.

So it was 57, now down to 56. You know, if you could get on that Twitter machine and pop it, you know, your sizable audience over there might side with you or me if there's... Well, I've always said our audience is very intelligent, and over time they fall on the right side. Yeah, when I called them the unwashed masses, that was probably not a good move, right? Yeah, you probably lost 6% right there.

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week, and this is what we do on the show is that Greg McElroy down in Alabama, he's a former smart guy, one of the better college football guys covering the sport. He said he's been told Sabin sniffing around coaching again. Lane Kiffin, also very connected to the SEC, also mentioned it. I know both. I trust both. So if Lane's saying it, and if Greg McElroy is saying it, he's sniffing it. And that's nothing against the network he works at now, but he

he's a guy that needs to be challenged. I've always had this theory about Nick. Nick thinks he's as good a coach as Belichick. I'm not saying he's wrong. He's the best college coach ever. And I think it just rankles him that he went to the pros. The team doctor

wouldn't let him have Drew Brees. And go look at Jim Harbaugh, super competitive. Harbaugh got to a Super Bowl, won a Natty. And the minute a top quarterback was available and an ownership group that would pay for a great coaching staff, he left. I mean, Michigan was loaded. Recruiting was rolling. Big Ten was expanding.

Jim was the talk of the sport. He's like, I'm out. So I just, Nick is old herb, but does not playhold. Here's Urban yesterday on Sabin to the NFL potentially. I have not talked to him about this. I could guess, because I know him fairly well and competed against him, that it's not a little scratch. It's probably a pretty big scratch.

That's the one area that he is not, you know, like you said, he's getting things going on Miami. I actually visited him when he was down there. But I don't think he'd go back to college. I don't see that fit. I would say very little to no chance he would get involved in college, but I think he would take phone calls from the NFL. So do I.

And again, the math is pretty simple. Six openings a year, maybe seven. College coaches are not leaving their post and sniffing around the NFL as much because with the NIL, universities can't afford to buy them out. You're not buying out Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley. You're not buying them out.

And an owner doesn't want to have to write a $70 million check for a new coach and buy him out of his college contract for 70. If you wanted to buy out right now, Lincoln Riley, it'd be 70 million, $80 million at USC. And then you have to pay him 80. And even billionaires have their limitations. Then he's unproven. It's not really proven. He can build a program in college. He can inherit a program, Oklahoma. Can he build his own? That's still unproven. So, uh, a lot to talk about here. J. Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right. We haven't talked about the Colts in a minute. Anthony Richardson, Colin, remember they shut him down this offseason due to soreness in his shoulder as he was recovering from shoulder surgery. Sounds like those issues are behind him. Multiple reports indicate Anthony Richardson is believed to have recovered and be ready to go next week when training camp opens. It feels like Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson for the starting spot.

I mean, Jones is a veteran, but he's learning a new offense. I mean, he ended very badly in New York. Richardson obviously drafted in the top five. They are invested in him. Any read from you on who has the edge going into camp next week? I trust my sources in the league in the general manager spots, and they like Daniel Jones more. I just think he's more consistently accurate.

Anthony Richardson, I had a general manager tell me he was the least accurate quarterback on simple throws he'd ever seen in the NFL. Who was a starter? So he's a good kid, he's a hardworking kid, but we've always talked about this, J-Mack, you've got to hit your layups in the NFL. You've got to get eight or nine. Those things out in the flat, you've got to be 10 for 10.

You can't skip the ball out there. You can't sail it to a guy in the flat. You've got to get, you know, as great as Mahomes is, and he'll make two or three throws a game that are, wow. He makes about 18 throws a game. He doesn't miss him. You do a curl route. You're open.

do a drag route, you do something in the flat, Mahomes doesn't miss those, Herbert doesn't miss those, CJ Stroud doesn't miss them. Anthony Richardson struggles on 12 yards in, on the easy stuff. Well, he, Josh Allen struggled on those early as well. Josh Allen had way more college starts. Remember, Richardson barely started any games in college. It was like 12 or 14, some low number, and now he's been hurt and hasn't really played that much. I'm not, I would start him. Like, you're not going anywhere with Daniel Jones. You're not winning. You're not saving your job with Daniel Jones. I think you've got to see what Anthony Richardson has. And if he, sink or swim, baby.

When Jim Ursay passed away, I think one of the things his three daughters want to create is stability because Jim, as great as he was, could be very impulsive in his later years. So I don't think they're, I think they're going to keep Chris Ballard. I think he's going to get, if he hasn't a big contract, long contract, I think they're going to keep Shane Steichen. Stuyken and Ballard are, they support each other. And I think the three, we talked about ownership today. I think the three daughters of Ursae are going to create a very stable environment, maybe compensating for some of their dad's impulsive nature.

So I don't think Shane Steichen would not be unemployed long. He would get a job. He's really good. They are just trying to bail water. Like Andrew Luck retiring, they've never, I mean, that's just like right before a season. They're still trying to figure that out. I might as well ask it. Just humor me.

Shane Steichen or Zach Taylor? Shane Steichen. Oh, okay. I'm with you. I'm just surprised that you're on. He doesn't have any playoff wins. No, but I think he is viewed as somebody who literally made Jalen Hertz was struggling as a pro. Go back to Justin Herbert's rookie year when he broke all the records.

Who was the coach? Who was the coordinator? Go look at Jalen Hurts' best year. Who is the coordinator? And by the way, Indiana is viable. Go look at the Gardner Minshew year By the way, who you got

win in that division? I know it's kind of topsy turvy, but who are you on today? Tennessee. Interesting. I'm going Jags. Pushing all my tips into the Trevor Lawrence. Two organizations in the NFL might as well have my debit card. They've taken so much money from me.

Atlanta and Jacksonville. Oh, yeah. And what's the point? Here's my debit card. Go ahead and take it. Yeah. Just just just take it. take 300 bucks out a day. It's like giving your kid, you know, hey, you want to go on a shopping spree at 7-11?

Go for it. Go crazy. All right, next up, let's go to Bengals. A big topic today, Cincinnati Bengals. Well, how about this? They took Shamar Stewart with the 17th overall pick in the draft. Edge Rush, who had a career four and a half sacks at Texas A&M. But he's got the skills and the measurements.

Anyways, he's the only first rounder not signed, Colin. Now, he's been working out at Texas A&M facilities. And a lot of people are saying, well, he's not signed. can he go back to college? Their head coach, Mike Elko, says there are no intentions of Stewart playing for them this year. I don't know what no intentions means. That's not, to me, a firm no, but against Cincinnati. Have I told you?

There's this team in the NFL that sets history. They draft a guy and he goes back to college. What a shock that it's Cincinnati. Jets would have to be a consideration for that word. No, the Jets have spent money. They just haven't spent it smartly. They spent money on Aaron Rogers. They'll spend money.

Jets spend money. Dolphins spend money. The bingles don't spend any money. Of all the organization, if I would have guessed, somebody gets drafted and says, this is nonsense. I'm going back to college. I would have guessed Cincinnati. Ridiculous.

It's bad. Final story. That's what Zach Taylor has to overcome driving to work every day. Yeah, luckily he's got Joe Burrow. Anyways, finally, in the NBA, interesting tidbit from your friend Charles Barkley here. So the Thunder won the championship, obviously. And Barkley, I'm not allowed to say anything bad about him.

Barkley believes there's only two teams that can hang with the Thunder in the West. Here we go. I said, nobody can beat the Oklahoma City Thunder. I said, Defer got a shot at it, but that's it. Now, I think the Rock has got a shot at it. But they're going to be the favorites for the next three or four years. They're young, they're talented, they're very well, coach. Now, the Rockets have had a great summer.

They've had a great summer. So have the Nuggets. But those are the top three teams in the West right now. Yeah, I totally agree. I'll take the Nuggets 1, Rockets 2, OKC3. Nobody's beating them four times. The Indiana Pacers, historic underdogs, push them to game 7. Yeah.

Let's get off this. They're unbelievable. Two years ago, Nuggets won the championship. I remember. I fell for the Nuggets. I thought the Nuggets could be the spurred. That was on me. But then last year, Celtics, we said they were like the most loaded roster ever.

They're bringing back everybody. Like, this is just how the league is now. This idea that, okay, I mean, we should do a friendly wager. No, let's be honest, you're right. If Halliburton doesn't get hurt in game seven, that is a coin flip. I agree. I think I would have taken Indiana. Well, seriously.

They look great. It was only one quarter, but they look great. This idea that OkC sees some kind of juggernaut. And by the way, SGA had a great year. He's a great kid. He's not an all-time great player. He's not as good as Curry in his prime. LeBron and his prime.

Michael Kobe Shack. But we got to be careful what we say about Charles Berkeley. Nobody wants to get thrown through a window or anything. All right, let's just settle down. Well, who said that? I did. Charles, I like Charles. I know you do.

Well, you've alienated him for so many years. I think his takes have been weak on this Oklahoma City. Come on. That good, Colin? No. They needed seven to get by Denver in the second round. Denver with hobbled Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr. No, Denver is my pick to win it next year.

Denver is going to meet Houston in the Western Conference Finals. I like that. Denver and Yokage Carriam. And then I think, you know, Halliburton, I don't know in the East. Nix. I mean, I mean, I don't know. Orlando is my, Orlando's in the Eastern Conference finals. I don't know.

Nick's Rockets in the finals. That's going to be good. Nick, if you told me Nick's magic in the East, I'd buy that. Without Halliburton and Tatum, I'd buy that. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News.

Oh, I've seen a little news here. I love, we had a Steeders writer. DeFayboy was on, Mike DeFayboy was on earlier today. And my lead today was, it's not that I don't like the T.J. Watt deal. I just don't like it how the Steelers have completely prioritized defense for four years. And the defense isn't even that great. T.J. Watt is, but the defense isn't that great. We had a graphic earlier today.

If you go to the last five playoff games for the Steelers, and they've led the NFL in defense of spending four years in a row, and they will lead it next year because of the T.J. Watt contract, their defense isn't great. Now, it's gotten better over the last several years, but their offense has gotten worse. For our radio audience, in the last five playoff games, dating back to 2017, they've given up 45, 48, 42, 31, and 28.

So they lead the league in defensive spending over the last half decade, but they don't have a dominating defense. So I don't mind the T.J. Watt contract. He's a great player. He's an all-timer first ballot Hall of Fame, as his brother was. Great player. But it's the fact that you let Minka Fitzpatrick go, and instead of just getting draft picks,

you sign past his prime, Jalen Ramsey, who's $7 million more per year. So if you're going to move off defensive players, just get the draft picks. Don't go back to overspending on somebody who's passed their prime. So T.J. Y is toward the end of his prime, but he's still great. But here's Mike DeFibo on the urgency for Pitchburg now to win this year with this contract for three years. Did Mike Tomlin get the most out of Antonio Brown or did he enable him? And, you know, we saw history in some senses repeat itself with

George Pickens. You go back to where this whole postseason losing streak began. Labion Bell reported late for that playoff game. Mike Tomlin always has a saying, I don't treat everybody equally, but I treat everybody fairly. But when you're treating people

on different levels, that is unfair to the guys who are doing the right thing. And that was in a response to my question, is Tomlin so pro player, does it get in the way? And as Mike says, it kind of goes back to Levian Bell, Antonio Brown, George Pickens, is that it's sort of ice cream for breakfast parent where he gives the kids a lot of space.

That's fine with 95% of your roster. But there's always some squirly guys in the NFL or, you know, in any pro sport, they're young, they're rich, they've got freedom, they've got a lot of time on their hands, and they make mistakes. And so, you know, I do think they become very permissive with players. And again, T.J. Watt doesn't, it's okay. you know, for the kid they drafted out of West Virginia, the first round kid, was it, Zach Frazier, the center out of West Virginia, he is a dog. That guy is great. For most of your players, it's fine.

You know, Heinz Ward is going to show up every day and put the work in, right? But for a lot of young guys, they don't. And here's Mike again on the urgent. Now, so they sign Aaron Rogers. And, you know, so they're kind of those, Zempic, their answer to their unbalanced diet. They've gone heavy carbs. The league has gone to protein. Their answer is Aaron Rogers, we're going all in and Mike responds to that.

They know that people are getting impatient. They want success and they haven't had it. And I just look at the fact that there have been, in the history of the NFL in the Super Bowl era, quarterbacks over 40 have won to combine 12 games in the playoffs. Tom Brady has 10. Every other quarterback has two combined. So it's Tom Brady and it's,

everybody else. And here the Steelers are, throwing their face behind, a soon-to-be-42-year-old Aaron Rogers, to try to snap that skid. In a division with arguably the best-owned, well-run, one of the best coached and great quarterbacks in the league in Baltimore. So the Baltimore screws it all up. Baltimore, Steve Bouchotti, and John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson, they're such a gold standard of how to run an operation that Pittsburgh, if they were in the A&A, F. South. Or if they were in the NFC South, they can win that division.

But when you're in a division with Baltimore and then vis-a-vis I compare you the Steelers to Baltimore. And look how Baltimore spends money on offense, takes big swings in free agency, moves off defensive players, really good players to make sure their old line is right. Or they can get Derek Henry. You think Derek Henry is this good on every team in the league? or do you think going to Baltimore with Lamar Jackson, this staff, and this old line, elevates and lengthens the greatness of Derek Henry?

I'd argue it's the latter. All right, tomorrow's headlines today. My favorite segment every week is coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news.

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I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, J-Mack, what a busy, busy week we've had. Everybody thinks it's the doldrums this time of the year, but we have had a lot happen. Starting with your flight snafu earlier this week, huh? So it should be noted. I felt terrible about that. And then I called you and I'm like, dude, I can't get out of here.

My boss the next day was in New York. He tried to get out. Got on a plane, went on the tarmac, came back in, got off the plane, waited five hours. Oh, five hours at an airport. Well, I told you before, it's very, in the West Coast, if you go to the airport and it's nothing but sunny skies, your plane will take off and you'll fly. on the East Coast, you could be in Rhode Island or a state, and it's perfectly sunny, but there's a lightning storm, or there's a, there's a front, a state away, and you're not taken off. And that's, you know, just the reality of you get, you get more intense storms out east.

I'm sure you're hanging out in the lounge, right? You get the credit card and you can pay 50 bucks and you go in the lounge, unlimited food, internet. No? No. That's all the hot people hang out at the airport in those lounges. I'm in row 31. By the way, Rory, McElroy is now six back of the lead at the open in Northern Ireland behind Englishman Matt Fitzpatrick.

So six-back, you can, listen, you get to that style course. You can make up ground pretty quick. You get a birdie. You can make up strokes pretty quick. All right, we do it every week at this time. The former newspaper man comes up with headlines. Tomorrow's headlines today.

What's the headline that one of the, I can't remember an opening game in college football that felt this big. Yeah. Ohio State. against Texas. Sark and Ryan Day. Ryan Day proved his value. This is a big one. They're all big ones.

Well, obviously, this is a great start to the season. The game's on Fox, August 30th. Schedule your Saturday around this one. Ohio State's favor, the headline will be. Ouch. Manning. Buckeyes put Arch in full-body Manning cast. I'm going with the Buckeyes here.

I know a lot of people are saying, hey, Archman is going to be the truth. I don't know. I saw one report that said he was the 10th best quarterback in college football this season. Meanwhile, Ohio State's bringing back Stiles, All-American linebacker. Caleb Downs, top 10 pick, maybe the best defensive player in college football. Colin, Texas only returns three offensive starters from a year ago. This is going to be difficult. And, oh, by the way, a little X factor, if you will.

The new defensive coordinator for the Buckeyes, it's the rocket scientist. Matt Patricia, remember that guy? He's looking for a career rejuvenation. He's got all summer to cook up stuff for Arch. I think this is the Buckeyes, almost to the point where people are like, ooh, I don't know about Arch as a pro, because I think it'll be a tough go for Texas. I would take Ohio State here by two touchdowns. I will remind people, Texas is going to be fine.

The games after this are straight up cupcakes. So Arch will be fine, but this is just going to be a welcome to college football, buddy. This is the big time. Yeah, I mean, there's such NFL factories. it is interesting. When I look at this game, the one advantage Ohio State does have, they're at home.

So Arch, but Arch is such a mature kid. But, you know, your first big start is on the road at the horseshoe. It's going to be called the hype against the horseshoe. It's going to be an all-timer. Tomorrow's headlines today.

It was SEC Media Day. Yeah. Media Week. This is always a hornet's nest down there. This is going to be Kalin DeBore and Kirby Puck. Kirby Smart and Brian Kelly and Lane Kiffin and here's Sark. Boy, there's some big time coaches now in the SEC.

What is the headline? Well, one of the smart people who I lean on for college football a lot, he's close to the business said, you schedule a national championship, Jay. Just remember that. It's all about the schedule. The headline for the SEC will be, who let the dogs stay at home?

Who, who, who let the dogs? I got Georgia winning the SEC Colin. I looked at the schedule for the Bulldogs. Are you ready for this? They do not play LSU. They host Alabama, and the week before that game, they have a buy. So they'll be very fresh. Other two good teams, Texas, guess where that game's at?

Yep, you guessed it. Georgia. Guess where the Ole Miss game is? Yes, also Georgia. Their toughest games are all at home. I know there's a lot of questions about Gunner Stockton. He didn't show much against Notre Dame in the playoffs. You know, okay, fine, it was a tough spot start for him getting thrown in there. he doesn't need to be great.

This is a loaded team with all their tough opponents at home. I think Georgia runs the table in the SEC. Runs the table. That's not, yeah, that's interesting. I don't know much about the quarterback, but that's interesting. All right, tomorrow's headlines today. A lot of speculation about the Lakers and LeBron James. I've had a lot of opinions this week.

What say you? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether or not the full for the LeBron wants out. all his nonsense? Or is it just like you said, the summer doldrums? The headline for LeBron and the Lakers will be the billion dollar baby. King chucks up Hollywood ending. I think LeBron is staying. I'm sorry for the whole baby. You know, I know people, LeBron is a baby, he's whining. I think LeBron stays. This is much ado about nothing. This is a simply, hey, you guys didn't show me respect. You're catering too much to Luca. What about me? I'm the king. I brought you guys the

title. I was second team all NBA last year. All that stuff is true. LeBron also got the coach he wanted in Reddick. They drafted his son, Brani. I don't think LeBron's going anywhere. It's a fun middle of July topic to kind of satiate all those reporters who kept telling you, Colin, for weeks. Oh, this is going to be the biggest offseason since 2020. It's just going to be chaos. Everybody's moving around. None of that stuff's going to be remotely true. I think without question, LeBron stays with the Lakers. Yeah, I think NBA free agency, not dead, but I think because of the new aprons, I think NBA free, I think the NFL free agency is much more interesting going forward. And I told Adam Silver, I love stars moving. He doesn't. And so I think the new apron is built for you to keep your draft well, develop and keep your own players. I think NBA free agency is kind of dead. 100%. Did you see the Phoenix Sun's owner with this Bradley Biel move, which is stupid and handcuffs you for five years, right? They're out of it.

the second apron just by doing that deal that's all they wanted to do is avoid $175 million and like that's just not smart team building but it's the new NBA Adam silver you sure we want this are you sure I don't tomorrow's headlines today what's going to be the headline for the second half of the baseball season Dodgers struggling Yankees probably need a little help what do you make of it? Yankees needs some help I didn't realize Detroit was as good yesterday's guest was like yeah the Tigers they're when they're coming out. All right, the headline for

the Yankees will be. Yankee Doodle done did it. Bronx bombers are backerone. Colin, we heard Jeter, we heard Arod talk about it. I believe the Yanks are going to be going back to the World Series. I know people are down on them right now. The Red Sox breathing down their neck, only one game back.

Obviously, Detroit has been exceptional. We've got the Astros. But Colin, I look at run differential. And it just jumps off the page. The Yankees by a mile, okay? Plus 111, Detroit, which has a better record. Way back there at 87, this is a Yankee machine. I know some people are criticizing their starters this weekend. I'm sure you saw, it's just like, who are these guys? This is not an imposing starting lineup. The Yankees are going to be fine, and like you said, I expect them to make moves. If Jeter and Arod are publicly

All-Star weekend talking about it, I think the pressure's on Cashman to make a move. Finally, the Open. Tomorrow's headlines today. There's Rory. What about Rory? What's your headline for the Open Championship? So, you know, obviously you're a big Rory guy. You were hyping it.

He's doing excellent, well, that we came up with an amazing headline for you. At the open, Rory's headline will be Rory, Rory, Rory, hallelujah. His truth is marching on down the fairway. We are all rooting for your guy, Rory Macquarie. Maybe you'll come on the show next week if he's able to capture the Open Championship. It should be a good one. I would agree with you.

He is a captivating watch. People just gravitate toward him. I remember when he first broke on the scene. It felt like it was going to be him and Tiger going toe to toe to toe forever. And then obviously Tiger kind of went sideways, and Rory hasn't been able to consistently been dominant. But he's starting to play better now, and I'm certainly rooting for him this weekend. Well, you know, it's funny.

Tiger was so dominant people compare everybody to Tiger. And I've said this. Go look at Phil Mickelson's career. just if Tiger didn't exist, it's like a top five career. Rory, Bryson DeShambo, Brooks Kepka, these guys are unbelievable all-timers. But it's like Brady. Brady at 44 was better than everybody not named Josh Allen and Mahomes.

And so the kid that came on from the athletic said, there's 12 wins for quarterbacks over 40. Brady's got 10. All the other quarterbacks have two. that you can't count. Brady's the outlar. Take Brady out. Farve was pretty good in his 40s. It was pretty good. Warren Moon was pretty good in his 40s. So my take is just take Tiger out. Rory's had an unbelievable career. Deschambo, who's like reinvented himself. Phil Mickelson has had an eye. Let me guess this. Just look this up. How many tour wins does Mickelson have and how many majors?

I'm going to guess. I mean, just again, Tiger doesn't need. exist. I bet you, Mickelson has all-time tour wins. I'm gonna, okay, and then this majors, everything else. I'm gonna guess. That's a tough one.

48. 45. Oh, wow. Majors six. Boom. I didn't know you were such a golf guy. Oh, that's right. You've been playing a lot of golf in a windy city.

I already have three golf rounds lined up next time I go on vacay. Are you serious? By the way, what clubs are you playing with? To kind of hit the ball long way and straight. Well, next time you're out here, we'll go to Top Golf. I like to grip it and rip it. All I do is swing for the fence. I just want to whack as far as I can't. You don't go to Top Golf? Here was Rory. After his round today, he's six-back. I'm excited for the opportunity. I didn't have that opportunity six years ago.

So, you know, to play an extra two days in this atmosphere in front of these crowds, you know, I'm very excited for that. And I feel like my game's definitely good enough to make a run. It was 20 years ago that I played the north of Ireland here. And never in my wildest dreams that I think that I'd be coming back as a Grand Slam champion with the support of a nation behind me trying to win an open championship. I find that guy so easy to root for. Oh, my gosh. And I'll tell you this.

Augusta, I mean, there's a lot of great golf tournaments. Augusta and the British Open are my favorites. The British Open just looks so different. It's so, you know, you have to get up early to watch it. And Augusta's just given me so many great moments. The U.S. Open, I'm partial to Pebble Beach. Like when it's at Pebble Beach, it's literally like a painting for the weekend. You're watching a painting.

Pinehurst, there's a lot of great, but there's certain terms. tournaments that matter more. Augusta one, British Open two, because Augusta's on at a better time. And then any U.S. Open at Pebble Beach. But there are golfers that I'm really fascinated with Brooks Kepka. I thought Brooks Kepka had a chance to be like Mickelson, 4550 tour wins. And then Bryson DeShambo was kind of sticky and unlikeable. And Deschambo is sort of elevated and Brooks Kepka has gone a little sideways. So we'll keep our eye on that. Yeah, by the way, so let's say you want to take me out on the golf course and you can invite any two golfers. to join us. Who rounds out the for some? You can say, Rory, it's fine.

You have a man impression. So if I could golf, you and I, and rounds out the foursome, how about Steph Curry? Because on a golf course, people have told us. He's awesome at golf, by the way. And, again, I get unfiltered. Steph Curry and Elon Musk, because he's so wacko. He would tell you, I mean, what's going to happen in the future?

Maybe Jeff Bezos. He'd be less distracted. Bezos and Steph Curry. All right, we're done for today. We will have a great weekend, a UFC 318. Can't wait to watch. Thanks for Dana White for stopping by. And as always, it's been the herd.

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