The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Decisions and QB

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Colin talks to Chris Broussard about The Warriors great run this season, NBA officiating, Kevin Durant, the Knicks, and more The Giants and the Steelers need to make a decision at quarterback soonSee ...omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRedio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. St. John's. I really am. One of the things, I watch certain things, like I watch the World Cup because you get the world's best soccer players. And I watch the NFL because it's the world's best football players.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I don't think I'm getting the world's best basketball players. I think a G-League team could win this tournament, the NBA champs, European. But there is something about sudden death and massive brands and great coaching that March Madness is wild. Wildly fun. Wildly fun. I don't think there's any better story than Rick Petino. They kind of shuttle back and forth between Madison Square and their home facilities.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And it's just great. And it's New York loves its basketball and I can't wait. J. Mack for the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's start with your boy, Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Listen, we haven't talked about him a lot lately. I don't know. Arizona's been kind of quiet in free agency, but he's very excited about year seven with the Cardinals. And in a recent radio appearance, Kyler believes things are looking up for Arizona. That's the frustrating part is I've had success. We've had success.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And it just hasn't ended up in what we want. And that's to win the Super Bowl and be in the playoffs every year and have a chance at it. I've only been in the playoffs once. So that in itself is disappointing to me and frustrating. So got to turn that around. I'm only getting older, but I'm 27. I'm still young, so we got time, and I know, I know, you know, I know we're heading the right direction.
Starting point is 00:04:06 That sounds like a grown-up, a mature man. I like what I hear. You know, he likes me. So I'm very positive. Arizona is my wild card team. I said this last year. I think they're well coached. I like Kyler.
Starting point is 00:04:22 They've got some unbelievable offensive weapons. I never know what to make of them. I don't know what I'm getting. You put him outside northern climate? Like, I don't know. Yeah, trip to New England. I love watching Arizona play. So you're the one.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I like to watch the one. Arizona play. Yeah, you like losses? Disappointment? I'm sorry, I don't know. Maybe I'm being too negative. I don't see it, Colin? At best, at best, third in this division.
Starting point is 00:04:50 They're not better in the Rams, short of a Stafford injury, a Brock Purdy injury. I would not be shocked at all if. they were a wild card playoff team. I would not. I mean, let's be honest, San Francisco lost a lot of talent, and you don't trust Arnold. If Arizona finished a second, I have, I don't doubt it at all, at all. I don't know that I trust Jonathan Gannon to produce a herd line segment. I'm not God. I thought they've seen anything from this guy yet. I thought they played their butts off. Considering their personnel, I thought they played hard. What's that worth? I don't know. Exactly. I'm not buying it. Sorry, too negative. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:05:27 to a positive story. Oh, I love this. Great fine by our staff. The Pistons. They took a tough loss last night to the Thunder, but look at that. J.B. Bickerstaff was ticked off with the officiating. Things boiled over when Cade Cunningham, who is a budding star in the NBA, was ejected for a flagrant foul
Starting point is 00:05:43 that was overturned, and Cunningham received two texts after cussing an official. And listen to Bickerstaff, go off in the post game. Turn up the volume, folks. We deserve a level of respect. because we're competing our tails off
Starting point is 00:05:59 and bringing something positive to this league. We're growing young players. Our young players are competing their tail off. The least that they could do is get the same respect that everybody else in this league gets and get refereed the same way that everybody else in this league gets trapped. And enough is enough of it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And what you saw tonight was disgusting. It was a disgusting display of disrespect towards our guys and what we're trying to do. Yeah. I will say this. let me defend him. First of all, Detroit's an amazing story. And what he's basically saying is all these teams in the East with the big brands that have been winning for a year, like Philadelphia, Boston, Cleveland, Knicks, Detroit, every game, they're not given their
Starting point is 00:06:46 player, like Kate Cunningham's a baller. I mean, he was good out of college. Well, listen, a lot of this stems from, they played OKC. And your boy, SGA, your MVP, who I call the free throw merchant, went to the line 10 times. I know. The Pistons as a team shot 13 free throws. This is an ongoing thing. Bickers staff's not the first coach to complain about this. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Malone's had some shots. People are saying it for a long time now. I know that the Thunder as a team don't all shoot a lot of free throws, but SGA is refereed differently. You mean like in the lane? All right. It's a pedal. Like James Hardin?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Back in the day, they changed the rules for Hardin, remember? They changed rules because he's doing that. I watch Oklahoma City play. When fouls were called against SGA, they look like fouls to me. I mean, I'm sorry. Carl Malone, James Hardin, some guys initiate Austin Reeves is great at initiating contact.
Starting point is 00:07:39 He's really good at it. He's very good at it. Some guys are. But I think what Bricker staff is saying is, we're the best team in the league that nobody thought would be any good. Yeah. And because of that, we're not getting by a very young officiating crew, NBA officials are kind of young. They're not giving us the whistle. They're intimidated by the Boston veterans and the Knicks veterans.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And, you know, LeBron James, there are certain teams that are given the whistle with all our young officials, and they're all the veteran old teams, and we're a young team here fighting our butt off, and we're not getting the whistle. It's not a terrible argument, but I think against STA, I've heard it so many times I'm over. You're over. Interesting. Well, it's going to come up in the playoffs. But I'll just say this about the Piston.
Starting point is 00:08:24 They are a great story in the NBA. Great. And I know Shaq and Company, they don't watch. The Pistons, they're boring, all that nonsense. I'm just telling you right now, the Pistons have more wins. You know, the Miami Heat, we talk about them often, heat culture. Pistons are way better than them this year. The Phoenix Suns, Dallas Mavericks, we talk about them.
Starting point is 00:08:40 The Pistons are better than both those teams have way more wins. Well, we need to put some respect on Cade Cunningham and Mr. Bickerstaff's team. They are good, and currently, as the sixth seed, they would face my Knicks, the three. They're not. That is not a cakewalk for New York. I'm keeping a reel with you. Not a cakewalk. Nicks will win the series, but it will not be easy.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Detroit's legit, Colin. I'm not banging on him. I thought Cade Cunningham, I mean, he was a good score in college. He was great. I'll admit I thought Jalen Green would be a better pro than Cade Cunningham and Cade lacked him this year by far. Jailen Green's good. But well, Cade came into the league. The problem, not the problem, but the reality of the NBA, these guys come in young.
Starting point is 00:09:19 They don't really develop emotional and IQ, EQ in the NBA. They know how to play the game and manipulate officials until like year three or four. And he was hurt. Yeah. But, I mean, Cade's been, Cade was, wasn't he like top three or four, I mean, he was a great one, yeah. He was number one pick.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So, I mean, he was not, he wasn't great in college. But when you, NFL guys come into the league, they're 23 years old. So a lot of these NBA players, they just need three years. I mean, they play 35 games of college, then they play 100 NBA games. They're just not ready for it. The final story is Major League Baseball,
Starting point is 00:09:52 Shohei Otani, and the defending champion Dodgers are set to take on the Cubs in the Tokyo Series tomorrow at 6 a.m. Eastern on Fox. So that's 3 a.m. Pacific. I'm sure Coward, you will be waking up for that. Glu. Because your boy, Yamamoto is on the mound. Some of us, some of us are pivoting toward baseball this year.
Starting point is 00:10:11 As opposed to what? Well, you're just out there. All NFL talk. Keep your eye on baseball. It's a growth industry. You're going to talk a lot of Cubs and White Sox? I'm excited to watch these games. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I have a friend that's guy. I know people going to these games. A gentleman named Shota Imanga. We'll pitch for Chicago. I've butchered his name badly. I'm embarrassed to say that. Shoahe, lead off hitter. Five Japanese stars in this one, led by Otani, of course.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It's going to be great. Mookie Betts has been, we'll miss both games due to an illness. If you couldn't tell, I'm a little under the weather now. Coach my kids in sports all weekend, and I'm battling it. But I'm powering through. Mookie Betts said I need to sit out this baseball game. I don't know what the Mookie Betts thing. Do they know what the Mookie Bet's injury is?
Starting point is 00:10:55 It's illness. Yeah, I read that. Nobody knows quite what it is. Porzingis. Remember he missed like six games? Yeah. You know what I think it is? It's that stomach virus thing. You know what? Show up. Give it your all. That's what I'm here doing. I could have called in sick today.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I barely have a voice. You know how hopped up on NyQuil I am right now? In the day? Maybe spend a little more time doing the homework and not being Pat Riley on the sidelines for 12-year-olds. Hey, we did win the championship, both boys and girls. I think America's celebrating. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
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Starting point is 00:11:49 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. Starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
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Starting point is 00:14:47 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. We had Tom Isle. on earlier, and I like Michigan State, I just think if they got behind in games, I don't know if they can play catch-up, they don't shoot the three. And I asked them, a 30-year-s coach of Michigan State, what wins in the tournament? You could run all the best offense if the final shot doesn't go in, it hurts. But I think what translates, defense carries, just like it does in all other sports, whether it's hockey, baseball, basketball or football. We've been pretty solid. That's why I think we've had a pretty good run.
Starting point is 00:15:22 But, you know, getting to the free throw line, I think matters and making shots. Because in the tournament, you get down to the nitty-gritty and people are following you. So you've got to be able to make free throws, which we can do. Yeah. It's going to be a defensive tournament. Very few teams can light it up. And college basketball, you know, Rick Bettino has said this about the NIL, and I think this is a great life lesson. complain all you want or adapt
Starting point is 00:15:49 you're going to adapt to this you have to love stuff there's stuff that happens in my industry I don't love but I got to sit and watch TikTok I mean there's just too much information on it and is I was talking about the ever-changing landscape of college basketball like Jay Wright like Nick Saban you know those guys are friends of mine they decided to
Starting point is 00:16:12 go another way I'm too dumb and stubborn to do it I guess I just figured that I got to get back to the basics last year. I was on all kinds of committees. I worried about it. This year I kind of stuck the coach in my team, and I've been lucky. Yeah. Well, they play defense, and they score points, but it's not necessarily pretty. And with that, the next three, four weeks of basketball, pro in college is really good.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Bruce joining us, Chris Brouss are live from New York, first things first after our show. So we got into this thing, so Coach Bickerstaff was furious about the way his team was being, the game was being officiated. And I said this, is that the NBA has got a lot of young officials. Okay, they've got a crop of young officials. And those young officials are giving, you know, there's a knock on it, that they're giving a lot of the veteran stars the whistle. And Detroit's not established as a winning team. So I can, Bickerstaff is basically saying, we don't get the, the respect whistle at all in this league.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Does he have a little bit of a point when his biggest star is Cade Cunningham and they're playing the Brunson's and the Tatum's and the Browns and your take on that? No, you're absolutely right. And he's right. And they aren't getting that respect. The officials are human.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And that's been the case throughout the decades of the NBA. And we've always seen the superstars get calls. and teams that establish their identity as physical defensive teams, they get a little leniency as well. We used to see it with the old Detroit Pistons, both groups that won championships, Chauncey Billups Group, Isaiah Thomas Group, the Bad Boys.
Starting point is 00:18:03 You see it with OKC. Over the past few years, they've established themselves as a physical defensive team, so they get a little leniency there. And Detroit, this is the first year they're doing that. And so now, if they continue to rise and be a good team and Kay becomes a star, and this is how they play, they'll start to get that benefit as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I will tell you, there is something to be said about there's the dog days of the NBA, and then you're seeing certain guys, you know, they take a little rest break. But it's interesting. The hottest team in the league now is Minnesota. So now here comes Ant, the rotations down, Julius Randall. Should we buy them? We know the coaching's good. We know they can defend.
Starting point is 00:18:55 We know Ant. What do you make of like in all the sudden, uh-oh, Golden State and Minnesota are really hot? Yeah, look, I think I think I said a week ago on here that my top three teams in the West were OKC, the Lakers in Denver as far as coming out. I'm now liking Golden State better than Denver, but I still think Denver's going to be a force to be reckoned with. And I'll throw Minnesota right there after those things. And Denver certainly doesn't want to see Minnesota. We know Minnesota beat them last year. Minnesota's athleticism and length on the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Jayden McDaniels, you know, Nikiel Alexander Walker, obviously Anthony Edwards. They've got long perimeter defenders that can bother you. Now they figured out how we're going to use Julius Randall. He's gotten more comfortable. So now he's more efficient than he was earlier in the year and has accepted his role where he's at. It's Anthony Edwards team. So yeah, they are playing well at the right time.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Like you said, we know they've got good coaching. And on the perimeter after you get by those long-ranging defenders, oh, now you have to deal with Rudy Gobert at the rim, not to mention Nas Reid, flying in here and there and doing some stuff defensively. So that's where their bread is buttered on the defensive end, and then offensively they have the dynamic player in Edwards who can create against any defense.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So it is, I want to talk about the Warriors here, because I said one of the reasons I think Butler has worked is that despite the fact that the Warriors have been fun and flashy, they got a lot of guys who have had tough upbringings, been ignored. I mean, even Steve Kerr had the tragedy in his family. He was a fighter with Michael Jordan. I covered him. He's a tough guy.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green's second round. Steph Curry had to go to Davidson. People didn't know if they were going to keep him or Monta Ellis. Is that there's a toughness and a resilience and a fight to Golden State. Now, we all know that Jimmy Butler's background, he's a fighter. But that's why I think KD ultimately didn't really fit the culture. And Butler does because that the Warriors have this sort of feisty, feistiness to them, and Butler's a perfect fit.
Starting point is 00:21:24 But is he a better fit? I mean, is this a regular season thing? Or do you take the Warriors seriously right now? It sounds like you do going forward. Yeah. Yeah, I do take them seriously because like you, Butler, And it's interesting, you said, is this a regular season thing? We haven't even seen playoff Jimmy yet.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And he does get better in the playoffs. He's done it essentially every year of his career since he's become a star-level player. So he's going to get better. And I think he fits perfectly with Draymond. Because you're right, I mean, Steph was obviously doubted. He came from Davidson. Kerr was in a fight with Michael Jordan. I don't know he was viewed as a tough guy, but, you know, I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:22:11 He had to overcome obstacles as well. But Draymond has kind of been the hub of that team as far as he gives them the toughness that they have. And now you've got a second guy in Butler who's just as tough as Draymond. And so now you've got two guys who are pretty tough. They're obviously not a big team. But heck, there's not, even tall teams in the NBA aren't. incredibly physical anymore and so I think they're tough enough and yeah I think they're going to be a tough out I give them a shot I like the Lakers in the West
Starting point is 00:22:48 I've said that okay C I just think is young okay C Golden State would be a tremendous series for me to watch because I would want to see could Golden State with their experience overcome the youthful energy and skill and defense that the Thunder play with. But yeah, I'm giving Golden State a chance in the West. So Josh Hart and Tibbs had a moment over the weekend where you saw them battle back and forth. Now, it's one thing in Phoenix where Boodenholzer knows KD's gone.
Starting point is 00:23:23 But Tibbs is battling with a crucial part of that team, Josh Hart. What did you make of that? Well, look, I think I said it on this show, Colin. The Knicks, if they go out like we all expect them to, Let's face it, in the second round, maybe even the first round, but in the second round, and aren't incredibly competitive with Cleveland, or I should say Boston is probably who they could end up matching up with. Then I think they need to make a coaching change. Not because Tibbs isn't great and hasn't done a very good job, but they need a new voice.
Starting point is 00:24:00 The talent is there. Jalen Brunson, star, Carl Anthony Towns. Star, Josh Hart, O'G. Anonobia, several other guys, really solid role players, and Tibbs has gotten a lot out of them. But we see this in the league. Obviously, Steve Kerr took that Golden State team to another level. But we're seeing it now. J.B. Bickerstaff is clearly a good coach. Did a great job in Cleveland. Now he's doing a great job in Detroit. But Cleveland just fired him because they needed a new voice. and now Kenny Ackison is tremendous with Cleveland and probably will be coach of the year.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And so I just think if they go out early, they're going to need a new voice to get to the next level where they can compete with Boston and Cleveland to try to win the East. All right, I'm going to let you go. You have a hoarse voice. You're going to save it for your show. Do you fill out a bracket?
Starting point is 00:24:57 I got Auburn winning a Natty. Jay Mack will tell us tomorrow who he. I have Auburn in Tennessee meeting. I think the SEC stacked. Do you have a team you like in the tournament, by the way? I like Duke, assuming Cooper Flag can be Cooper Flag. Maybe they could sit him out, obviously, for the first game, maybe even the second game. But if he can become, you know, get back to playing 100%, then I like Duke.
Starting point is 00:25:21 A lot of people like Florida, which certainly has a chance. But I'm going to go with Duke. Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. Fun to watch always. Hey, great seeing you, Brew. Get healthy. get healthy, buddy. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:33 All right, thanks. I know. I'm in the minority. Everybody loves Duke. You can't watch the SEC this year and not have a couple of SEC teams in the tournament in the final four. You can't.
Starting point is 00:25:44 They were so much better than everybody else. Listen, it's a long basketball season. You see we're late in the year now, and I'm a little dinged up. Broussard, hurting, LeBron, missing a week. How are you the oldest of that quartet? Just plowing through.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Because my daughter's sick, too. because I sat home all weekend doing homework and watching games and taking notes. You weren't throwing plates around at the gym? Well, I do that too. I use that stuff on my hands like nonstop. There's a lot of people out there sick. I know. Yeah, it's rough.
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Starting point is 00:30:34 The road to the Indy 500 runs through thermal as Indy car heads to the California desert. The fastest racing on Earth is back Sunday at 3 Eastern live on Fox. Dodgers, Cubs coming up. So it's the tournament. We get all fired up about it. It's two or three things we know. If Rick Petino gets to the final four, that'll be great for ratings. Duke has three NBA players, a lot of people like Duke.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Florida is the hottest team. The SEC was overwhelmingly the best conference. After that, you cross your fingers. Suddenly everybody today is taking UC San Diego to beat Michigan, and nobody's watched them play. I got my bracket filled out, mostly chalk, a lot of favorites. Arizona's my dark horse. haven't played particularly well, but they've got a seven-footer that's playing well.
Starting point is 00:31:27 They got Caleb Love, really good coach, all sorts of athleticism. I watched them play Houston. Four seed, that's my dark horse. I think they're going to win several games. I was talking to Izzo earlier about, you know, I mean, coaching is so big in college basketball because there's few transcendent players.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Zach Edy last year was like you're impossible to stop guy, but there's not many of them. And I asked him if he ever steals stuff from other coaches. I'm so dumb. I not only steal it, but I name it after the team I steal it from. So if I got a Zags play or if I got a 76ers play or a Lakers play, it's because I stole it from them. So my plays are named after a lot of people or a lot of teams,
Starting point is 00:32:12 which means I'm stealing a lot. Yeah, now a Michigan State's classic of what this tournament is filled with. Well-coached, really excellent defensive teams. teams. Michigan State, St. John's, Houston, not a lot of great offensive skill. I was saying this earlier. When you watch Ohio State win the Natty or Michigan last year, Georgia, year before, when you watch LSU, BAM in their prime, you can see the NFL. There's no question about it. You can see the NFL. When you watch college basketball, Yukon's team last year, you could see the NBA. Most of the time, it's a different sport. It's a lot of defense, a lot of
Starting point is 00:32:50 coaching. They slow it down. If they get to 80 points, it's generated, a lot of the inertia is created by the defense. But these teams don't shoot particularly well. The one conference where that's not true, I thought, you know, Tennessee can really shoot. I think SEC teams feel like so much better than everybody else in the country. So I don't think the Big Ten is going to have a ton of success. I think the SEC is going to finish. I think Tennessee, Florida, Auburn. Who knows about Bama? People are kind of cool on Bama right now. But we're not watching college basketball as much for the skill as we're watching it for the community of it. And I think it's absolutely fantastic. Matt Hasselbeck stopped by earlier.
Starting point is 00:33:32 We asked him, the Vikings, the Giants, and the Steelers all want Aaron Rogers. And I ask Matt Hasselbeck, when you're an older quarterback, what matters? That's like, though, that's your biggest nightmare is like going to a team that's absolutely irrelevant. Basically what he experienced last year. So to me, I think being on a team that has a chance to be in the playoff hunt, contend for a Super Bowl, I think that's a huge thing. And I'll also say this, as a veteran quarterback who switched teams late in my career, the last thing you want to do is learn a new playbook, like a new language. If he goes to some other team or some some coach that the language is not that language where he's getting in there like a freshman in college trying to,
Starting point is 00:34:18 like memorize a brand new thing. Man, at some point you're like, I think I might be too old for this. Yeah, so I still contend the New York Giants have a shot. They've offered the most money. There's a story today that Minnesota has cooled on it. Do you have a favorite in the clubhouse on this? Minnesota's the best fit.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Giants to me, second, Steeler's third, Giants have offered the most. I think, uh, yeah. Let me throw this at you. There was a source told me that the Giants said, Aaron were interested, but we may bring in Joe Flacco, too.
Starting point is 00:34:52 That the Giants just want veteran quarterbacks. They may draft somebody in the second or third round or wherever their picks are. But that... I have a hard time believing Brian Daible in a winner-your-gone year is going to stake his time with the Giants to Aaron Frickin Rogers. Well, what else is there? There's nothing else out there. I would go Russell Wilson. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I mean, I don't think there's higher upside with either of them. Well, I think Aaron's a better. the drama on top of stinking, right? Well, you're going to get drama with Aaron. Not with Russ? Well, you're going to get drama with Ross. There wasn't any drama in Pittsburgh with him. Well, they got so bad at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:29 How about with the Jets? Two years of nonstop garbage? Well, yeah. I'm not denying now. How about the end with Rogers and Green Bay? Constant. Like, it's always something. Do you need that headache?
Starting point is 00:35:44 You don't even like dealing with headaches, do you? No, I just, I don't. You know, no. But I think I've always liked Russ, but I've watched Pete Carroll, Sean Peyton, and Tomlin move off him. So what am I supposed to think? There's something there that people just move off. Yeah. What about Carson Wentz?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Is he still on the market or somebody grab him at Carcass? I don't think, listen, I think teams like the Jets and the Giants, I don't think there is a good answer. Yeah. It's Philip Rivers. Is he a team player? You put yourself in this spot. Yeah. That's why I'm really interested.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I hear all this talk about Shadour Sanders dropping in the first round. He's not dropping. If you're the New York Giants and he's available with the third pick. 100% take him. Don't you have to take him? What are your options? I mean, what do you? I mean, remember when Arizona took Josh Rosen and a year later took Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like if you take Shadur Sanders and you're like, I think he can play in the NFL. And you're like, yeah, I mean, by the second year, you know, by Thanksgiving, you make a decision in the building, this isn't going to work. We need to remind people, Zach Wilson went second overall. Trey Lance, they traded up to get him in the top three. And people are now, oh, you can't touch Shadur at two? I just, none of it makes sense. Zach Wilson was never considered like a topic. I just got excited because he was with the Jets.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm like, all right, whatever. Shadur, there's reason to be. be excited. There's a lot of good stuff. No, he is a... How would you rank the prospects? Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, and Shador Sanders. Well, Shadur has more games against big teams
Starting point is 00:37:27 where he was productive. So Shadur. Now, it's easy in hindsight, but we didn't have many games with Trey Lance. Tres like missed like two seasons. Yeah, we didn't. And Zach Wilson, I was never a fan of because it was the COVID stuff and I saw him play Utah and not play well in Washington. So against the good teams he didn't play well. So to me,
Starting point is 00:37:43 Shadour is really productive. with a bad old line and no run game. So I don't buy into the Shadur. It's weird. So I watch mock drafts. It is remarkable to me how many people who do what we do for a living, in fact, often just cover the NFL, have Shadur mid-first. So listen, as a guy who ran a website and did a lot of mock drafts,
Starting point is 00:38:08 you want to see a way to stand out? Don't put Chador in the top five or top 10. People will be like, what? And they have to click to see what is this all about? So then you get the click from people because every other mock draft has them like top five. So I got to be different and put him 21st or whatever. That's the only logical explanation. There is no way.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And again, it's a weak draft. I mean, Carter for Penn States having a surgery. Travis Hunter wants to play both ways. So even the guys that are unquestionably gifted come with something. I got to play Travis on both sides. Carter's having surgery. Those are the guys we love. Yeah, and now Ashton Gentie, you and I were scoffing if the Cowboys taking him 12.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Now it's like bears it in the top 10. No, Gentie's the best running back. My only question is, in a running back filled class, can I get 85% of them in the third round? No, I do think Gentie will be the – Gentie and the kid from Carolina are the best two backs to the class. Then there's a little bit of a drop-off. My take is, can I get Woody Marks of USC mid-third, and I get 85% of Gentie? I think that's possible.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But, yeah, we'll see. When I see Shadur dropping, I'm like, the New York Giants, if they get Shadur, chances are they're not drafting in the top five for a long time. I don't know. And also, neighbors, good left tackle, offensive coach. And Daibol can make a case. Hey, I got a rookie quarterback. He showed some promise.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You've got to give me more time. And then him and the GM get extended. Yeah, if I'm the Giants, I take Shadour. I just roll the dice. It's the most important position. We'll see you tomorrow on Tuesday. Be safe. Live in LA, The Herd.
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Starting point is 00:40:16 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
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