The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Dianna Russini

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Colin talks to NFL reporter Dianna Russini about the Micah Parsons' contract dispute with the Cowboys, Caleb Williams, the Commanders, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, it's that time of the year when you hear things. Some good, some bad. Fan bases get very mad at reporters when they don't give you rainbows and birds chirping and a pot of gold at the end of every little video clip. Diana Rusini knows that all too well.

Senior NFL insider for the athletic covering the NFL for a decade now. So I started my show today saying, listen, these video clips, they all mean something. They all mean something. but I'm going to start with Micah Parsons. So he said, I don't want to be a cowboy anymore. That's pretty drastic. You know, what's funny, because he was the 12th pick, he's actually still a top five or six cap hit for defensive end.

He's been well compensated. It's not like Terry McLauran, where he's wildly overproduced for his draft spot, never made big money, and he's a Pro Bowl level, Hall of Fame level player. Were you surprised that Micah said, I'm done being a cowboy?

Did it surprise you? No, because it's one of those things. You talk about how you hear things. I'd heard early last week that Micah had in his draft folder this letter. So I'd spoken to some people with other teams. And apparently it was out there that come the second week or third week of training camp, something was going to go down, that they were going to make a bold move. and Friday afternoon was that bold move.

Colin, even Friday morning I had reported that the relationship between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons was so damaged that a trade could be on the table. And I mean, everyone responded wildly because you don't ask for Dallas Cowboy players don't ask for trades, right? That doesn't happen. We see it almost in every other organization. You don't do that. Everyone wants to be a Dallas Cowboy because of what it provides you.

as a player, not just when you are currently, you know, playing the game of football with the star in your helmet, but life afterwards. So a few hours later, Micah posts the note. And look, I think it was stunning just because it's unheard of there. But in terms of the negotiations and where they're at, Micah laid it out pretty well. And, you know, most people know what happened here with the conversation that he thought was just discussing numbers and a contract between the owner and him, not some binding deal that was going to be permanent.

So then, of course, when his agent finds out about this, he's like, no, you're not negotiating with Jerry Jones. We're doing this. Now, a lot of people have been pushing back on, well, Micah had that conversation with Jerry, right? Like, he chose to discuss it. He sat there. He's a grown man. He understands what's happening.

And so I asked somebody in the league about DAC, like, how did Dak handle that? You know, because Jerry's known to do this, to go to a star players and talk about a deal, whether it's Zach Martin, Tony Rome. We've heard tons of stories of him doing this. And Dak said, I'll talk to you, but I'm not talking numbers. Call Todd France, my agent. Call my agent. Right?

So Micah had an opportunity to do that, but he didn't do it. And so I think that's the Cowboys perspective on this. It's not like we held you to the fire. and say your feet to the fire and say, you must do this, you want to engage with us. Whereas, of course, the Micah Parsons side of it,

you know what that is in terms of just, my agent needs to be part of this. And because of that, to me, this is Jerry versus Micah, as extreme as it comes. So here's a thing. It's not that I haven't been burned by a source in my life,

because sometimes people get bad information, but by and large, I trust people. And I've had many of the same pro football sources for a long time. And what I hear about J.J. McCarthy isn't what I hear, like the sometimes reported. There is this almost protective bubble or sort of an elevation of what he's doing. And it's not what I'm hearing, that there are real concerns from last year on. And again, I, so my stuff is running counter to mostly what I hear.

I mean, I'm not asking you to divulge everything, but I feel like in this one, and I said this before the draft, I wasn't hearing teams were rushing to get J.J. McCarthy. I knew two teams that wanted to move up for Michael Pennix. I knew one that wanted to move up for Drake May. And I didn't hear anybody moving up for Bo Nix. Sean Payton loved him, and that's about he fell to where he should. But what I'm hearing on J.J. McCarthy would not instill confidence. do I have a bad source? What do you make of the whole elevation of these stories that, hey, he's be patient, he's hitting it. Where are we on that? Well, first let's go with what I can tell you, Alec Lewis, the Athletic Vikings reporter, shares with me because I talk to them pretty regularly.

And it sounds like it's just up and down, right? So there's some good, there's some bad. So, you know, to that idea that the bad clips don't mean anything, I'm with you, it means something. You know, at the same time, I've had coaches tell me when I used to, be more of a beat reporter that sometimes you don't even know what we're doing there's a reason why we're doing the certain things that we're doing and you guys are just not informed but but that being said i think what you're pointing to it sounds like what you've noticed is maybe something that i've noticed too is there there is a lot of lifting up of j j mccarthy right and and some of that's good

because you want to give this young quarterback coming off a very serious injury who obviously struggled with sitting out right we saw the fact that he loved lost all that weight. And I know the Vikings don't want to make a big thing of that because that just is part of the process of dealing with a significant injury. But it's also difficult to be sitting there when you're supposed to be the guy and Sam Darnold's out there at one point looking like the star of the show, right? And then you have an organization who makes a decision to let Sam Donald walk.

They want to keep Daniel Jones, but they don't want to pay what Daniel Jones wants because Daniel Jones wants to be the guy, right? those guys left Minnesota for reason because it was made very clear to them no matter what J.J. McCarthy is the guy? So what is it? Is it because Kevin O'Connell truly believes that JJ is this superb cue who's going to come in here

and turn this organization around and where they finally got their guy? I mean, possibly. Is it just because of what they did in the draft for him? Is it because they need these moves to get J.J. McCarthy? Is there an ownership influence here? So there's always a lot of factors to your point. But I think to just succinctly answer your question,

do I think J.J. McCarthy is wowing everyone at training camp? No, I don't. I think he's fine. I still think Justin Jefferson told me what I needed to know when he spoke to the media before his injury and was like, essentially everyone needs to slow down here. Like he is still learning. And we have to be able to give him,

of this grace here. So while, yes, I get why the organization is going, oh my gosh, JJ McCarthy. And if you follow anything Vikings related, you would think this guy is the next biggest quarterback to play. And I think they're going to be disappointed because there's going to be a natural period of time where he's just got to catch up and feel comfortable in this offense. So I'm with you. I'm just, I'm not bought in all the way. I just think there's just going to be some time here before we can get to a point where we can have a serious conversation here and go, is he the guy or not? Now, it's different than when I was in Denver, right? There's no question mark who Bo Nix is, what he is, how they believe in him. They're doing the same stuff of building

him up, but there's more proof there, right? We've seen it. We've seen the talent and even having conversations with Bonix. You hear it. You hear the confidence. You can understand that he's taking a step forward here in getting what he's being asked of from Champaign. By the way, it's interesting. Last year, Dan Quinn was just overwhelmingly impressed with Jaden Daniels. Coaches kind of suppress comments in camp. So you knew Jaden Daniels was something. It was the same thing with Andrew Luck.

You know, when I forget the coach, was it Pagano or Bruce Ariens, whoever it was, they were just saying, oh, this Andrew Luck kid from Stanford. This is insane. Sean Payton, from what I can tell, can't help himself with this Denver roster. I mean, you were there. I mean, he is, I think he loves this team. And I don't think it's false optimism. You just spent time with him.

Yeah, I think that's a good point to be made, though, right? Like some coaches are just going to yell at you to tell you how great their team is because there's actually nothing there. Right? And it's almost like hope. I don't get that sense from Sean, who's really smart with the media. He's got his finger on the pulse of all this locker rooms from over the years going back to his days in New Orleans. He knows what his team needs. And he knows that there's some young players here.

And Bo is young in developing. And granted, I know he's 25 and he's got five years of college experience. But this next step is big for him. And so I do think there's a little bit of Sean pumping him up to let Bo know, like, I love you. And you're right. He's in love with this team. But for a guy that loves offense and we'll talk your ear off about his quarterback if he loves the guy, it's his defense that he knows is the strength of this team.

Even if I was there for the first day of Pat. and he's like, oh, did you see Greenlow out there? Did you see him? I'm like, yeah, I saw him, you know, because this is really the first time we've seen Denver have a really good, you know, middle part of that defense. That from five is obviously ferocious. Patrick Sertan, the reigning defensive player of the year.

They've got something special, and I know that. And, you know, Colin, I asked Patrick Surtan to rank quarterbacks for me to just, you know, just give me the obvious ones that we all know, and I just want to hear where you go. And so, you know, it always gets dicey five and six, right? We all start with Patrick and Lamar and Josh and Joe and Justin, right? And then it's like, okay, now we're away. Is it Jalen?

Is it? And Patrick stopped me because I was ready to go hurts and he was the one who was like, Bo Nix. I'm like, what? What? Like, are you crazy? Like not yet. He's like, Bo Nix.

You will see. I practice against them every day. I'm telling you, you got to watch Bo Nix this year. And most of it is just this understanding that Nick's has in the offense. It's just he's really taking that step forward of getting the why behind it. Why everything they're doing. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app.

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they want to talk to you they want to discuss their their regimen what they're eating what their planning just um and there's also a lot of boredom right like guys are in camp every day is the same so just new faces is exciting to them but yeah this is the highlight and so i'm going to lose like three shades as you know uh by november and you know maybe we can get some fake tan deal here on the show then we'll get a sponsored segment just you know hollywood tans or something just to keep the glow you know diane great scene as always oh i appreciate you all right diana russini camps are fun the videos are crazy

by the way did you see jamaq uh shadur was held out of camp shedur sanders because of shoulder soreness that's what happens when you carry the franchise you think shoulders get a little sore so there's another story out today where they may move off a couple of their young quarterbacks

I know they're bad I am fascinated it's just like mystery I don't know what they're doing in Cleveland with the quarterback. I thought it was going to be Flacco. Trade Kenny Pickett for a six-rounder and keep the young guys. Anyway,

I think that's your first story. Somebody must have just told you. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Boy, you're getting good at this tease thing in the business, Colin. A tease. Let's start with Shadour Sanders. Obviously all eyes on the Brown's, what, five, six, seven

quarterbacks. Well, Shadour has been held out of team drills. due to arm soreness. Now, they have their first preseason game this Friday. Shador also addressed why his dad told him not, he told his dad not to come to camp. Take a listen. I don't want him coming to see me right now

because I want to get to where I want to go then for him to see me. I don't want him to come and see me, you know, get a couple of reps and, you know, he's cheering like a good dad. Like, nah, you can't be proud of me right now. I got to get to where I'm going, and I know it's a lot I got to do to get there. So it's kind of like I just want everything that I'm doing to just focus on this time, and I don't want no distractions because we know out of media. We know how everybody will take it and take away from the team.

Well, he's saying the right stuff. Yeah, it sounds good. I am hearing a lot about a fifth round draft pick. I think this is the most discussed fifth round quarterback in the history of NFL football history. Is that fair? Yeah, I think you're right. Before he's taken a snap in the preseason. Well, it's also Cleveland has such a dysfunctional history at quarterback that I think, I mean, if he was doing, if he was with the Jags, we wouldn't.

Cleveland's, you know, it's one of the top ten brands. They've had so many quarterback missteps. I think part of it's just the environment makes it even more interesting. I mean, obviously, if your last name is Sanders and football. Yeah, I just, I don't know why I care so much, but I'm into it. Yeah, so besides Shador's short, uh, shorthy, uh, shor. shoulder soreness. Kenny Pickett,

Hammie. Dylan Gabriel has been limited today due to a hamstring injury. They're just falling apart in Cleveland. Everybody's all stressed out. They're tight. They're trying to win the job. And now everybody's kind of banged up, Colin.

I mean, listen, you and I are playing banged up coming off vacation, right? Yeah. I'm not at 100% right. I can tell. Trust me. I can tell. Let's go to college football, Colin. Where the preseason coach's poll was released.

And this is something of a shocker. but our first big noon game of the week features the top two teams in the country. Texas one, Ohio State, two. Here is the rest of the top 25. Penn State. Who you love to go to the national championship is three, Notre Dame five,

Clemson, six. Your thought? I don't know how good Georgia is a quarterback and I don't know how good Ohio State is it quarterback. I know I've seen the kid play at high school stuff. I think Texas Penn State I would put one and two, probably Texas one, Penn State two.

I'd probably put Ohio State three. I'll tell you, Marcus Freeman has done a great job at Notre Dame. He's just got great energy. Notre Dame has done, I didn't know what they were going to get when Brian Kelly left. Their recruiting is better. He's done a great job. This is a really good Clemson team. This is the best Clemson team at a long time.

time. They return a ton of starters. Oregon's always good. Bamma's always good. I like Nussmeyer, the quarterback at LSU. We'll see. Miami. I don't know. Can we zoom out and get more than the top 10? Because, Colin, one team I do not see on here is North Carolina. They did not crack the preseason coaches top 25, even though their schedule is a joke. And my team of destiny, the Texas Tech Red Raiders checking in at 24.

I'm just telling you, if you are in, one of these, Vegas or a gambling city, and you want to put some a couple bucks on a team. Keep an eye on Texas Tech. I will add, South Carolina is 13. We were vacationing. We ran into a couple. They go to every South Carolina game.

Their whole fall revolves around South Carolina. They are terrified of the Clemson game. I guess in the deep south right now, everybody's hyping your Clemson Tigers. They're good. As a stack team because of the quarterback is back and the defensive line is loaded. I need to see it, Colin. I've heard about Clemson the last few years. They've been disappointing.

They've added three transfer portal guys this year, which is more than they'd added in the previous five years. Like, they don't do the transfer portal. And I think Davo looked at it and thought, we got a chance to win a Natty. We better clean some stuff up. But it's a real. I mean, Clemson's a great brand.

I think I've said this before. I think Penn State's backfield is insane. And I think Texas's roster is insane. I may think Ohio State's the best team in the country. I have to watch the opener. They're quarterback's a five-star quarterback. He could be unbelievable. I just haven't seen him play in a big spot, so we'll see.

I may, by half time of game one, think Ohio, because Ohio State has the two best players, and I don't think it's close in college football. Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs are easily the two best players in college football. Coming into the season, yeah. By the end of the season, Archmanning could be up there. We'll see.

I don't think at the beginning he's going to be there for new offensive linemen. Anyways, final story, Colin, to the WNBA where we're actually talking about the sport with Caitlin Clark not playing. Oh, but it's a Caitlin Clark topic anyway.

She missed her seventh straight game due to a groin injury, and they've won five in a row without her. Here is head coach Stephanie White talking about why Caitlin's absence can be viewed positively. I said it early when C. was out the very first time, you know, while we don't like it,

sometimes it can be a blessing in disguise because everybody else finds themselves, right? And no one is afraid to make the big play offensively or defensively. Well, Sophie Cunningham, she got a new podcast. You guys should check it out. Very interesting. By the way, the fever, Colin, are here this week against the LA Sparks, who got Cameron Brinkback. And my family was all stoked to go to the game.

and now Caitlin Clark's not going to play. You know, and it's like, do we go? I don't know. I would go. Without Caitlin Clark there? Well, she's going to be in the arena. Okay, so we're getting autographs now? I mean, like, you know, putting out a lot of money to go to these games, you want the stars there.

You know, if you tell me that Patrick Mahomes is coming to SoFi to play the Rams, and then all of a sudden Mahomes is out, am I going to the game? Well, they would be no good without Mahomes, and the fever are on fire without Caitlin Clark. Maybe you could just support the W. NBA. I do. I do. You know. With daughters. Maybe you could just support the whole league there. Be a good dad.

All the way, Sophie Cunningham's on fire. She's shooting like 42% on threes. And has a new podcast. Did I mention that? Yeah, that's twice. You've now mentioned that twice. Why did you grab her as a podcaster? Because of her pregame outfits? Is that what's going on? No, because she's smart and no

BS and cuts to the chase. That's why you hired me too, right? No, no, different reasons. You know, somebody had to carry the Samsonite around here. We have. Sampsonite. Okay, 1980s references.

All right. Jay Matthew. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Man, the camp stuff. Everybody says, oh, this camp video, you can't make my... Listen, fans want...

Fans want positive stuff, especially on young quarterbacks. People get very defensive on quarterback. So, Jaden Daniels is an A. Bo Nix is a good B. I think Drake May is a B so far. I think Penix is going to work. The people that are concerned about Penix, it's mostly an Atlanta Falcons thing.

It's not a Michael Pennix thing. I don't know. I will say this, in total honesty, before he was drafted, I was very confident in Caleb Williams. After year one, I'm confident in Caleb Williams. after this camp I'm kind of confident

in Caleb Williams so it's come down a little bit we'll see we'll see it's the herd be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern

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Another reason not to love the Cowboys this year. I just got a picture. Look at this, Jay. Of Brian Chottinheimer the coach. You know, I don't like backward hats. What's worse is a backward visor. That's a two-win team. I'm taking away four wins.

That's awful. That's so bad. If you see a guy wearing a backwards visor, you think one word it's inappropriate for TV, but like, could you hang with, like, if I rolled up to play golf with you and I had a backward visor on, would you just pretend like you don't know me, Colin? I would just say, and I know everybody gets mad at this, I only really care, like for instance, Bank of America is behind him. It's a big sponsor. And so I do think if you're the head coach or the quarterback of an organization and you do press conferences, you're not only represent. representing yourself, that's very selfish and narcissistic, you are representing the Dallas Cowboys and you're representing Bank of America. That's probably a huge team sponsor. They

probably paid $8 million or something like that, $7 million to the Cowboys or, you know, some, you know, big money deal. So I tend to think, here's what men do very poorly. Men often don't think of others in social situations. It's how do I look and how, I think Women tend to be a little more self-aware, a little less narcissism. So when you sit in front of a podium, you're representing the Cowboys, you're representing Bank of America, you're representing a $12 billion corporation. I think you've got to do better as a head coach than a visor backwards. That's my take.

He looks like a dad trying way too hard at like the neighborhood cookout to impress like his teenage son's friends. Yo, what's up, fellas? You know, he's got the backward hat. By the way, I don't mind players. Like, practice is over. Listen, I, in the summer, where I go. Where's that? In Rhode Island.

There's a lot of people with their hats on backwards, but you don't do it at the really nice restaurant in town. It's just like, it's a really classy restaurant. So you just wouldn't do it there. Like, they're an area in this hotel I go to occasionally that has a membership area, you have to wear a jacket or you're not allowed in. Like there are dress codes. There isn't a dress code in the NFL, but I do think when you are in front of the team logo

and the big bank sponsor, which everybody has on Wednesday and you're a quarterback, I don't really care about any other position. I really don't. But there is something, there are certain, to say that it never matters, if you're walking the red carpet, you're a director of a, you're the lead actor in a Disney film with Stephen Spielberg. Well, you're representing Stephen Spielberg and Disney. Not just you. You want to, you want to look the part. You want to, you know, you're representing a staff, a corporation, a legendary director. That stuff, I don't want to look like a guy that's here to move my couch. Like,

I want you to do better than that. Let me ask you, Solomon, and I'll never forget this. You know, we got married way back in the day. And this dude who came with a girl who was friends with my wife, he wore a short sleeve white shirt. shirt, no tie. I was irate when I saw this guy. I'm like, look, you're at a wedding. You don't even know me or any, and you showed up without a tie and a white shirt that was short sleeves. And I, to this day, haven't forgotten this clown. And I'm just curious, like, it's similar to this. Like, you're in front of the Bank of America sign representing the Cowboys and you're wearing a backwards visor. It just screams like, what are you doing?

Listen, again, I know I'm in the minority, but I'm also, I also, I also, know based on what people talk about in the summer that I don't care about a lot of things people care about like I don't care I've never bought people magazine a lot of Americans care about that stuff I don't I don't watch certain movies I don't watch certain things so I'm not saying I'm aligned with the country I'm just saying in my opinion is I'll give you an example when I go out and people take a picture with me because I work at Fox I put the drink down it doesn't hurt me at all. I know people, but if I'm, if I'm doing a picture, I've always put the drink down or I put it out of the picture because I'm representing the Murdoch family. And I don't need to. I wouldn't be

fined. I wouldn't get in trouble. Nobody, but that's just my default. And I think a lot of it's my, I can hear my dad talking about certain things like, you know, like, like, I remember when I was going to college or I'm going to dress up or I meet somebody and my dad would wear a collared shirt. And so, again, this is how I guess I was raised. But there's a reason that country clubs and private clubs, you have to wear collared shirts and jackets. There's a reason for that. Like there's a standard. So I, and I don't think it matters.

I mean, if you want to clean your garage or you're out with buddies at a public golf court. And not, you're in a sports bar. I'm not talking about that. I just, I do think head coaches feel different than, you know, quarterbacks and head coaches. That's just my opinion. So you're saying if somebody comes up to. I mean to take a photo and I'm double-fisting alcoholic beverages, maybe put those down. It's not a good one.

I'm not saying you have to. I, and I'm sure there's probably a picture where I'm not, but I just always, if I'm out at a place and somebody wants a selfie, which happens four times a day, it happened 10 times yesterday, because I was at a place that was public. That's fine, but I'm going to make sure I'm not holding a big can of schlitz. Just, you know, it's just, and it's not an elitist thing. It's a, I'm representing more than myself. Boy, boy, just a flex and a half there.

People want to take my photo. I'm going to clubs. You have to wear a jacket. It's not a flex. It's not a flex. It's the bottom line, you could be a politician. You could be a local news anchor. Everybody wants a selfie these days.

That's just the reality of the country we live it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't. It's just the way the world we live in. I mean, people are taking pictures of their food all day. Yes, occasionally public figures have people wanting to. Seriously, if you go to a restaurant, anybody under 30 is taking pictures of their food.

I don't get it, but yeah, whatever. I do that sometimes. Okay, well, I do, you know, all right. So earlier today, Matt Hasselbeck showed up. And, you know, the Micah Parsons situation. One of the things I've always felt, Diana Rusini touched on this. If you're a Dallas cowboy, like Dak Prescott,

if you take out Patrick Mahomes, in the entire league right now. I bet you, not just on salary, but on endorsements, I would guess Dak Prescott has made more money than everybody but Patrick Mahomes in this league, including Joe Burrow, including Josh Allen. And why do I believe that? Because if you're the Dallas Cowboys,

if you're a quarterback or a star player for the Dallas Cowboys, you're just discussed more. You're going to get podcast offers, production company offers, you're going to get commercials. So I do think about that. I always said this with Dwayne Wade. You got Pat Riley, Spolstra, Mickey Erison, no state tax, aqua water, and a winter league.

Like there are benefits to playing for the Miami Heat. If you have to play, if you have to play on the Eastern Seaboard, you can do a lot worse than the Miami Heat. Great organization, great fans, unbelievable support. And my take on the holdout is, you know, you've been fairly compensated. you're going to get paid. I wouldn't make it pissy. I wouldn't make it public.

I just wouldn't do that. Terry McClorn, it's a totally different situation. I totally have his back. Here's Hasselback earlier on the Michael, Micah Parsons situation. Jerry Jones seems to like be fine with this kind of conflict, fine with this kind of drama, but he also doesn't seem like the kind of owner

that wants to get like pushed around publicly. So, you know, there's a part of me that says, hey, this is Michael Parsons, figure it out, close the door, include the agent. Then there's another part of me that says, hey, why don't you just punt on this year anyway? Go out and get like the most amazing draft package for next year and really start focusing this team on next year because I really don't know that you can compete with Philly and that you can compete really with Washington and then the rest of the NFC.

Yeah, it's for the record, the only quarterback that made more money off the field last year than DAC was Patrick Mahomes. So that's why I always say with DAC, I'm not telling guys, to take pay cuts, but it's like, dude, you've made like 300 million bucks off the field or some astronomical number. You need more good players around you. Now, maybe Dak could argue, well, I don't trust what the Cowboys would do with the money. But, I mean, Breeze, Brady, Mahomes have taken team-friendly deals, and they got a lot of rings. I'm just looking for Dak to win back-to-back playoff games.

So I don't know. I do think there are advantages playing with the Dallas Cowboys that you don't get other places. And by the way, Texas has no state tax. Dallas, a beautiful place to live for a young single athlete, young married athletes. Dallas, a wonderful place to live. It's just there are advantages. And I'm not going to mess with the guy's money, but I don't like the way Micah is handling his business. I don't love it.

Terry McLorn is a totally different situation. He's wildly outperformed his contract. He has been the shining light until last year of a messy franchise. He's been a quality human being, a great adult, a great leader, a great player, an unbelievable playoff performer. Terry McLaren, I would pay today. I'd overpay Terry McLaren. And he's on the offensive side of the ball.

That matters a lot to me, too. Not all holdouts are the same. Yes, Ryan, I'll give you a selfie later. Even my own staff. It's a reality. We'll see you tomorrow. It's me. Hey, guys, it's us.

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