The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Eric Bieniemy
Episode Date: December 17, 2024Colin talks to 2-time Super Bowl champ Eric Bieniemy about his time coaching with the Chiefs and working with Patrick MahomesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Well, Eric B. Enemy
has had an amazing career.
Up for the Heisman as a
running back at Colorado. That was the last
time Colorado was great.
Really, truly great.
Two-time Super Bowl champ as a
coordinator with Andy Reed, 10 full
seasons with the Chiefs. And
he is in studio. He was at UCLA last
year. So I got so many things. I want
to start with the big picture on Mahon.
So he comes from, you know, Texas Tech.
His dad was a major league player.
Did they let you in on him before they drafted in?
Had you heard in the building there was a young kid?
Give me, and I'm trying to figure out the timeline because they had Matt Nagy was there,
and then Eric B. Enamee, and I'm trying to figure out exactly when you were there.
But take me through your kind of chronological order with Mahomes.
Okay.
So first and foremost, coaching out there in Kansas City.
We're in the Big 12 country.
So seeing Texas Tech play every single weekend.
And one thing, you know, we had a great staff.
I mean, we had Brett Veach on staff as a GM.
Obviously, he was under my man, who was the original, John Dorsey.
He was under Dorsey.
And so, you know, we had a lot of guys, Chris Ballard.
And the talk of the town was always, you know, have you guys seen these throws that this kid has made?
and we were watched the games.
We got caught up in Big 12 football,
obviously just watching what Pat was doing.
And so we got enamored with him.
We watched him grow as a player while we were coaching because everybody was a fan of football.
And so just watching him and seeing all the things that he bought to the table,
we all were kind of end on it.
Chris Ballott was probably the lead scout at that point in that point in time.
He's now the Colts GM.
Exactly.
He loved him.
Loved him.
Absolutely loved him.
I think everybody in the building
fell in love with him.
Now, did we think that we would have a chance of getting him?
No.
But it's amazing how things worked out.
And obviously, it's been history being made right before your eyes.
The kid is an unbelievable kid.
He takes absolutely nothing for granted.
And you just love him as a person and as a competitor.
When you, so let's go to the first camp with the homes.
Yes.
So you had Alex Smith, who's a wonderful guy.
Yes.
And were there moments?
Did you drive home after a practice or three?
Was there a moment for you an epiphany when you're like, oh, boy, this is different.
Let me say this.
So with all due respect to Alex, okay, we love Alex.
Alex was a great quarterback.
Here's one thing Alex did.
Alex provided a blueprint for Pat Mahomes to follow.
Because first and foremost, Alex was a come early state.
late guy. He was very
professional. He was very diligent
in everything that he did.
He took the game series.
He studied. He was a film junkie.
So those are some of the things
that, you know, as an example
of seeing an older player do it,
helped Patrick to grow.
Now, watching Patrick,
and don't get me wrong, every young
quarterback has
their struggles every now and there. But there
were certain throws that you were seeing, practicing,
like, oh my goodness, did you see that?
And we just sit there.
Go back and look at the tape.
Yes.
Like, wait a minute.
Did you see that throw?
And so there will always be those moments.
And then you just knew you had something special.
And then he had that opportunity to start up against Denver.
I want to say it was the last game of the season that particular year.
And he went out and he did this thing.
And not to anybody's surprise, here we are, you know, years later,
looking at him and still watching him excel at all the little things that a lot of people
and think that he can do because he came from an air raid offense.
Yeah.
So obviously Andy Reed is a great play caller and play designer.
You've worked with a lot of good coaches.
Bobby Ross.
What is the secret sauce?
If you were to take, if I said, Eric, you get a head coaching job.
Take one thing from Andy Reed.
What is the structure, the foundational piece of Andy that makes him arguably the best coach ever?
I think more than anything is probably the consistency.
He's a consistent individual.
The Andy Reid that you see today is the same Andy Reid that I played for in 1999.
Really?
The thing that I love about Coach Reed is that he's very stern.
He expects you to be very professional.
He expect all his coaches to be an expert at their positions.
He expects his players to work hard.
He expects them to be at their best when their best is needed.
and there's always a culture of accountability.
And when you have all that and you combined it together,
now you see the consistent winning performance that just takes place
throughout the course of the years.
And so the thing that I love about Coach Reed is that he's provided that.
And then on top, and I've got to add one more thing.
He's not afraid of change.
He's not afraid of adjusting.
A lot of old coaches are.
And that does not fear him.
You know, he wants to make sure that.
that whatever needs to be done, whatever we need to do to win, that's all that matters.
And then you can obviously see that's been a theme of this season.
It doesn't matter what the score is.
When it's all saying done with, you're being measured.
It ain't about the numbers.
It ain't about the stats.
You're being measured by two alphabets, the W or the L.
And they've found a way to be 13 and 1 right now.
And everybody wants to talk about what they haven't done.
But I'll say this, it's hard winning 13 games in the season,
let alone being 13 and 1 at this particular point.
And that's the credit to Coach Reed.
Yeah.
So you looked at all these quarterbacks coming out,
Jaden Daniels and Bo Nix and Caleb Williams and Michael Penix and J.J. McCarthy.
I thought Caleb was the most talented.
At UCLA, you know the USC program well.
This year you faced, I think it was Miller Bot.
No, the UNLV kid at the end.
When you watch Caleb struggling in Chicago,
how do they get it right?
What's the first step?
Well, I think more than anything,
it's about the culture and the atmosphere.
So you want to make sure that the kid is in a right culture,
meaning you have to build it around him.
If you're going to draft the franchise quarterback,
you've got to make sure that,
and I'm not trying to step on anybody's toes
or place any judgment on anything.
I think Ryan Poles has done a great job.
You know, Ryan.
Yes.
Ryan is a very good friend,
and I've known him for a number of years.
because we spent a number of years together in Kansas City.
But you want to make sure that you're building that organization, that program around him.
Everything benefits him.
Exactly.
And everything always starts and ends up front.
So you've got to build it with those guys.
So Iber Fluss was a defensive coach, and that worried me.
Yeah.
And so I'm not into who's doing hiring and all the firing.
But one thing I do know, anytime you're drafted a franchise quarterback,
You've got to surround it with the right people.
You've got to make sure the right people are in his ear.
You got to do the things that he likes and feels comfortable with.
And then you start branching out and developing him and teaching him other things along the way.
And so, yes, the kid is special.
He's a dynamic football player.
But it starts with a culture.
And having this opportunity to coach in the number of AFC championship games
and being on a Super Bowl winning team,
it starts and ends up top.
It starts with everything.
The Hunt family, the beach, to everybody.
You know, and when you're in the first-class organization
and with first-class people, you know,
everything is done the right way.
Will there be mistakes made along the way?
Sure.
Yes, they will.
But it always starts up top,
and you want to surround your quarterback
with the right people that's going to help him to develop
and grow.
So Belichick's going to college.
My take is he is building a pro model.
College athletic departments can be high maintenance.
People are very parochial.
They have their space.
And Belichick's coming in with his NFL guys.
And he's like, yeah, I'm not going to volleyball matches.
And my take is it's Bill's smart, but he's a pro coach.
And you're a pro coach.
And you went to UCLA.
If you could give him, what was the?
the first shocking thing.
And again,
Kansas City is a well-run
pro football operation.
The first thing, if you
could whisper one thing to bill,
be careful about blank,
what would you say?
The only thing that I, if
anything, that
I disliked or
about the college game is
the lack of time that we have to
teach. And so
I pride myself on being a teacher.
And, you know,
there's a 20-hour rule. You only get so much
time to deal with young men.
And I always have felt that it is our duty as coaches to make sure that if there's a
player that's special enough, it's our responsibility of making sure we're providing this
kid with all the necessary tools that's going to give him the best opportunity to play
early in the NFL if he's talented enough.
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Eric B. Enemy for a radio audience, and here's the thing.
That's why the NFL is, it's the great scheme league for coaches.
College is the recruiting league.
You can only do, you can only layer a college kid with so much.
You only get 20 hours.
So Belichick is not a recruiter.
He's a scheme genius.
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to San Bernardino and look at a receiver instead of teaching them his plays.
And so I feel he's going to be, now are you surprised, because you're a former Colorado great,
are you surprised by Colorado has no money?
They're like UCLA.
There are not a lot of dollars there for NIL.
Are you surprised at the success that he has had, Dion?
Not at all.
I tell you what, knowing Rick George and knowing everything that Rick George wanted.
AD.
Yes, exactly.
Rick George is a great friend of mine, very close friend.
He was there when we played in the national championships.
era, but
him in prime time
is, they hit it off. Really?
And yes, they hit it off. And there's a nucleus,
there's a bond.
So,
I thought Rick, first of all, Dion did a heck of a job
of selling his vision to Rick.
But on top of that, you can see
the vision coming through because
Dion did a great job of basically
helping those young men to go out there
and be successful. But on top
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program by building it with the
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Hey, Travis Hunter, I'd play him at
Corner. As a former
offensive coordinator in the NFL for years,
here's my concern. You can't be a
part-time receiver. It's a
timing position. So
what would you do?
You're a coordinator, and you get
Travis Hunter. And he's like, hey, coach,
I want to do some offense in returning,
but he's an elite soft gardener level
corner. How would you integrate
him into some of the
offense? I don't think he can be your number
one receiver in your number one corner.
But if you had to, you
only got him for half the practice.
What do you do? So first and
foremost, congratulations to Travis Hunter
on winning the Heisman trophy. He is great.
The second Heisman
trophy winner in the history of Colorado football.
So, outstanding.
Second of all, I
have to answer this question, biasedly.
And don't get me wrong.
I think the kid is a tremendous athlete.
I'm selfish. I'm on the office
side of the ball. I want him to play
receiver for me.
Right, right.
And so, but, because I watch all the dynamic things that the kid does.
He's a great, he makes dynamic catch.
I would use him just like I would use any other player that plays.
Jet sweeps.
Jet sweeps, certain routes.
I mean, the kid is, he can run.
He has an unbelievable hand and eye coordination.
He can track the football.
He can come out and in and out of his brakes.
He transitions well.
I mean, the kid is a great.
football player. And obviously he's one of the best because of the numbers that have shown.
But on top of that, the trophy speaks for itself. But the kid is also a competitive kid.
And don't get me right. I think the kid is a dynamic college football player.
Can he be a great receiver? I think the kid could be an outstanding receiver. And so, but
you got to pick and choose aside, in my opinion. It's just my humble opinion. You got to take aside.
Yes, because it takes away. It takes. Now, he could be a dynamic, great corner.
Just like you said, he does have those skills and ability to be the next source.
But you know what?
Here's my takeaway on that area.
It's an offensive league.
A lot of bad teams, the Jets have great corners.
But if you have dual weapons like the Rams, it's an offensive league.
A corner has limitations.
Patrick Sertan is unbelievable.
But it's Sean Payton, the offense, the left tackle.
I just think if I had, I think he's going to be a better corner than a receiver.
but I think receiver is more valuable now than a great corner.
Because you can design and get him involved in the game early and often.
Okay.
And that's the beauty of it, whereas he's having an opportunity to touch the football.
12, 15 times.
Great things can happen.
Yeah.
And so you would implement him in your, in your officerily.
So a year ago, people were lamenting that running backs, they're never going to get paid.
You were a running back.
And they're never going to get paid.
And now here's Derek Henry.
and you're watching Green Bay now Josh Jacobs.
That's a power run team.
Detroit's a power run team.
Baltimore's a power run team.
The Rams with Kyron Williams.
Yes.
So why do you think in the last year, Sequin Barclay?
It feels like, Eric, there is a little bit of a pivot back to the running back.
Why?
This game has a way of being cyclical.
Everything that you think was outdated, it seems to come right back.
one thing that I've always
have known, you throw
the ball, okay, to win
you throw the ball to win football games,
to score touchdowns, right, but you got to run it to win a championship.
What is all saying done with, the game is still one up front,
all right? Whether it's the O line or the defensive line.
If you can run the ball, it takes so much pressure off the quarterback.
Also, it eats clock.
It eats clock.
You get into these close, late games.
That's what Josh Allen has never had until James Cook.
he had leads.
Exactly.
They couldn't eat the clock up.
Because it becomes a game of possessions.
And so if you're taking care of the football, ball security, you're running the ball.
It limits the opponent.
And so it limits the opponent's opportunities.
But on top of that, it applies pressure to that team because now they feel forced to be perfect to drive the ball to late to the field to go out and put points on the board.
But when it's all sitting down with, those teams that are doing a great job of running the ball, those are going to be teams.
that are going to be reckoned with come playoff time
because they're hard to stop.
And then you watch what they're doing up in Green Bay.
I mean, with that cold weather,
you know, running the ball as efficiently as they are.
I mean, you're watching Philly do what they do.
But it's, this year has been fun
watching all these guys do what they have done.
And then if you look at it,
it's about four or five other guys
that are on the cusp of rushing over a thousand yards.
You know, this year may be,
be an all-time high as far as, you know, thousand-yard rushes.
Seven players right now with a thousand plus rushing yards.
Last year, one player.
Yeah. Think about that.
I also think about this.
As the game got more perimeter-based, safety's got smaller, so did linebackers.
Yes.
And I think the good coaches went timeout.
We got 214-pound linebackers.
And then the game, most of these running backs, low center of gravity guys, they're punishing
running back.
Kairman Williams, you can't get a hit on.
Oh, you can't.
So I think it's cyclical.
To your point, the safeties and linebackers got smaller and rangier, but not as physical.
Yes, because here's what happens.
So once upon a time, defensive schemes were scheming up Tom Brady and the New England Patriots
on how to stop those guys.
You think about all the receivers.
So guys got naturally smaller.
So you're primarily playing with your nickel personnel.
So same thing with the Kansas City Chiefs, the evolution of Patrick Mahomes.
Teams are lining up trying to take away all of the kids.
different receiving threats that you have on the perimeter, which leads for what? A light
box. So now you have an opportunity to run it even more so. And you think about some of those
guys that are running the ball as efficiently as they are. Look at the players that are playing
quarterback as well. There's also guys out on the perimeter. So now it's like little checks and
balances. Yeah. Because you have to be able to defend the run. But on top of that now, now you get
matchups on the perimeter where you get one-on-one battles where guys are going to have opportunities
now to make more plays efficiently down the field by making the big throwoff of play action passes
uh eric bianami is joining us before i let you go um you've had opportunities to be a coach
um you've interviewed i mean it's it's a competitive world do you ever get frustrated some
people have thrown out a racial component how does that land for you when you interview you don't
get it. The media appears to be like, give this guy a chance. Is it hard on you and your family?
How do you view it? How does it land for you?
I look at it as an opportunity to grow. I've had a number of opportunities to sit down with a number of teams.
And I've come away with a lot just sitting down, having that experience, talking to those particular teams.
And the thing that you can do is I'm a competitor. The only thing that you do is go back to the drawing board.
Right. You know, and figure out what can I do to make it better?
I grew up in a culture of being a resilient person.
My mom have always taught me, hey, you know, you don't worry about the things you can't control.
Worry about what's next and how you're going to control that particular moment.
So when it's all said and down with, no, you don't think about the negative.
The only thing that you build upon is the positives.
What are some of the things that you can come away with after learning and going through this experience?
And how is it going to help you moving forward?
So those are the things that I focus on.
And that's what's important moving forward.
Well, I can ask you one more.
Yes.
All your years as a coordinator, offensive coordinator, if I said to you, name the one defensive player you hated facing,
that you would look at the film and think, okay, he's going to blow that.
Because Chris Jones is one of those guys that other coordinators look at.
He'll move up.
He'll move all over the defensive line.
Was there a guy in this league?
You're doing this for 10 years.
And every time you faced him, you thought, oh, headache.
But there's probably a few of them, but one of them that stands up.
It's a young, Von Miller.
Vaughn was a beast.
First three, four years in the late.
Oh, my goodness. He was a beast.
So he was in Denver.
Yes.
How did you block him?
We tried.
In fact, it was a funny story because, first of all, I have the utmost respect for Vaughn.
You're talking about the premier pass rush that also did a great job
lining up and playing against the rum in his heyday.
And that's not to take away anything that he's doing now in Buffalo.
But that young kid, he was so hard to block.
You had to scheme around him.
I remember we played him.
It had to be either 2018 or 2019.
He beats Mitch off the edge.
Mitch probably is not going to like me saying that.
And Mitch was good, too.
Yes, Mitch was, and here's a thing.
He probably was Vaughn's toughest matchup because Mitch was a...
He was smart.
He was very strategic with it.
He did a great job of timing up his past sets,
but it was this one time he beats him.
And so he beats him around,
and Pat scrambles to his left,
and Pat throws the ball with his left hand,
and he completes it.
And so in the heat of the moment now,
you've got to understand,
we're in a two-minute situation,
where we're trying to go down and win the game.
And so I'm sitting there,
and it's a lot of chaos,
over the headsets.
And I'm like, damn, did anybody see that?
I'm talking to Coach Reed.
Coach Reed's like,
EB, you got to call a play.
You know, he gives me the play.
You got to call a play.
I said, did anybody see that damn?
Don't know that he just made.
He was like, get the play out, call the play.
And so after I get the play, call then,
we're like, yeah, we saw it.
It was unreal.
And that was the play Vaughn just beat his guy.
Yes, but you're talking about a great player in this heyday.
I mean, unbelievable.
hard to stop.
You know, hard to scheme around as well.
Yeah. Eric Bianamy, pleasure to meet you.
Nice to meet you as well.
All right.
Thank you for this opportunity.
Oh, of course.
We'll take a break.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed.
First people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're starting a trend.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast.
people could call in and say, hey Jonas,
and then I wrote down on my little notepad,
Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
help make you funnier.
This week, my guest,
SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends
on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
What's up, fam, it's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game
is about defying the odds.
Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves,
I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything he gives us
on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nash will get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball.
Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah.
You figure it out real quick.
Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This week on Crimeless, we're joined by our first ever guest.
Sorry, our first ever human guest.
I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the pair.
I'd be too nervous.
That's right.
The very funny Will Ferrell joins Rory Scoble and me, Josh Dean,
for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell.
They called to his fellow officer for the nippers.
What are the nippers?
Very good question.
No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing,
Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt?
Maybe not.
I say we invest and we see.
There's only one way to know.
This did not amuse the cops.
By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops.
Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes.
I didn't get caught. You know why?
If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk.
Listen to Criminless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad,
but secretly, he became someone else,
a master of disguise who went on a crime spree.
At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea?
It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate
that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out.
Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong
and what that might look like?
No.
I didn't want to manifest that.
I was trying to manifest success.
Every family has its secrets.
But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life?
That is not the look of an innocent man.
This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever
because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue.
Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man.
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Nick Wright, Eric B. Enemy, and now J. Mack with the news.
No, no, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
Patrick Mahomes, the bionic quarterback calling.
He got banged up in that win over the Browns.
They're calling it an ankle injury.
He got sandwiched between a couple defenders.
Mahomes spoke yesterday about his potential of playing in week 16.
At the end of the day, I'm not going to put our team in a bad position.
So if I feel like I can play and go out there and win a football game, I'll play.
And if I don't feel like that's the best case scenario, I'll let guys like Carson play.
I mean, he's a guy that's going in this league as well.
So it's just about pushing it this week, seeing where I'm at and making the best decision.
We have a little bit of room to kind of spare.
But at the end of the day, we're trying to win the football game.
And I'm a competitor.
I want to go out there and play.
So I'll push myself to get to the best place possible over these next few days.
and we'll be able to make a decision then.
Sounds like he's playing, and the line is dropping.
Down to Texans minus one and a half at KC.
I don't trust Houston.
Come on.
I think they're the most good teams I have a feel for.
I don't even know.
Is Houston good?
That's a good question.
I don't even know what they are.
Seriously, I don't even know.
Three turnovers from Tua really flip that game.
Actually, you got a fumble, too, so four.
Yeah, I just, I got to stop my chiefs bashing.
I'm sure the guys are sick of it.
But it would be nice to see someone else go under center for a game.
Save Mahomes for the Christmas game against the Steelers.
We need Mahomes on Christmas.
You can't tune into Carson Wentz on Christmas Day, right?
That's not.
Well, I mean, Netflix is, you can put Logan Paul.
Logan Paul could play quarterback.
Oh, geez.
Do you see that story today?
No, what happened?
Didn't you guys see the Logan Paul Connor McGregor fight?
I'm not going to.
Is that real or is it?
Boxing match.
I'm not going to watch it.
There's just no way.
Listen, Netflix, I gave you my Tyson money and I came away thinking, that felt a little sketchy.
I can't do it.
You can burn me once.
You're not burning me twice.
I'm not watching Connor McGregor.
I'll watch the highlights.
There's no way Connor McGregor is going to go into it and try to box.
Logan Paul would knock him out.
He's way, way bigger.
So I totally forgot that it is like, you know,
one of these streaming services all in on the Chiefs.
Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes.
And now if you don't have Mahomes on,
you think he plays or sits against Houston?
I think he plays.
First of all, the kid is...
He's tough.
I mean, he'll get hurt in game,
and he's dog cussing Andy Reid.
Like, he wants to play.
And also, the injury, when I watch the injury,
he has that twice he.
year. I mean, the bottom line is he puts himself in these pretzel positions and he gets
whacked and he's always available to play. You got to give the guy credit. His body heals.
It's that dad bond. Yeah. He's a factor. He's not built like a violin. He's got a little,
gravy and a little fun there, and it's his body. Some guy, I mean, Jared Gop never gets,
I mean, there's just certain guys in this league, they get hit and they play. And other guys like
Carson Wentz.
Mahom's backup, historically, he missed a lot of time.
Next story is the Raiders.
Continue their quest to stink for Shedur.
I guess that's a thing.
They lost their 10th straight last night.
Kind of got close there at the end.
Vegas having a shot with a Hail Mary that was intercepted.
Antonio Pierce spoke about the losing streak after the game.
We've seen the league this year where it goes both ways.
And hell, we need a break, right?
We need a little prayer.
Guys are all in.
Listen, man, just we're not winning.
I want to tell y'all.
You know, I'm not winning.
Do I want to win?
Do I want to win?
Yeah, I want to keep sitting there looking the same thing
I'm looking every weekend, have the same discussion with y'all?
No.
We got guys that's battling, it don't matter.
Next man up, right?
You can poke all of them and do all this stuff.
But these guys are not budging, I'm not budging.
We'll keep chopping wood.
At some point, the damn thing we're breaking go away.
Yeah.
Do you think he retains his job?
What does she do or Sanders think?
That's what you need to ask.
I mean, I'll say this.
They were down to the final play last night.
They play hard.
I mean, how much of that was the final play?
falcons ineptitude. Come on. Who can't make a field to save his life? All I know is every week,
Kansas City, Atlanta, every week I watch them. They're in the game to the last couple series.
Just for the record, the Raiders starting quarterback was Desmond Ritter. And they're starting
running back with someone named Sincere McCormack or something. I've never heard of that guy.
Yeah.
Before last week. And it's like, they're actively trying to lose games.
Well, no, they're not. They're not tanking. They're playing who they think.
This is just, this is no different than an NBA tank where you look at the roster in March and you're
Like, who are these guys playing for the Pelican?
Yeah, but the NBA does that.
It's hard to tank in hockey and football because you get your block knocked off.
It's a soft tank for the Raiders.
Come on.
No, I think they...
I mean, Rock Bowers is trying his butt off, but other than that, like, they don't have
anybody.
And you need that number one pick.
You've got to get Shadour.
I do think we're headed toward another Eli Manning situation at the top.
Eli Manning or John Elwood.
If the Giants get it, there are a lot of smart people that are saying,
Hey, Chedore does not want to play for the Giants.
He don't want to go to New York.
Dion's gone on record saying I'm going to work behind the scenes.
So that's going to be fun.
I can't wait for January.
That's going to be fun drama next month.
And we'll close out with the New York Football Jets,
who are on the hunt for a new coach and a new GM
and hopefully a new quarterback.
Yesterday, the team announced they had completed an interview
with former Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff.
Did I say that right?
Yep.
Yeah.
Woody Johnson hired the third.
33rd team, I guess that's a website, in support to try to vet candidates.
Yeah, I know him pretty well.
He's a sharp guy.
You do?
Yeah.
He's the one that took the big gamble.
Thomas took the big gamble, and he went and got Julio Jones and gave up all those picks,
and people were like, whoa, and then Julio became arguably the best receiver in a decade.
He was awesome.
Oh, he was in his prime.
Julio Jones was, like Randy Moss.
Like, he was the best player.
Unbelievable, yeah.
I just liked that he took a big swing on that.
Any postseason success to speak of or no?
I don't know the answer.
I don't...
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
As a Jets fan, I'm just stepping back from the process.
I'm not like in it, in the weeds, finding out...
Because nothing's going to be done anytime soon, right?
This is just cursory interviews, maybe.
I mean, I would be willing to talk to them.
I said this earlier.
Of the three broken franchises, bears have the best quarterback,
Giants have the best history.
The Jets, now that they have a left tackle,
for the future, they have the best players.
Let me ask you, why are the Cleveland Browns not a broken franchise?
They need to be in there.
Well, they made the playoffs a few years ago, and they got a great coach and an excellent GM,
and the best pass rusher in the sport.
Ownership is terrible.
Well, no, I don't like the ownership, but I think they've got players.
Okay, what about the Jaguars?
How are they not broken?
They're drafting in the top five for like the third time in five years.
They're close. You know, they're not broken, but there's a tear.
It's torn.
It's not a bro.
It's not fully ruptured, just a tear in the meniscus.
Right, right, right.
J. Mack, with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
The Herd Lie News.
Yeah, we got Eric B. Enemy, Nick Wright, stopped by today.
No, it is, it is, I pose this question.
If you're Mike Vrable, the Jets have the best players,
the Giants have the best history and game day revenue.
They got a lot of money, and the bears have the best quarterback.
and I've always lived by a rule.
I've lived by this forever.
Money's important.
I'm not saying it's not.
But if you watch the NFL,
I did this earlier today when I showed
if you look at the teams
in first place, take out the AFC
South, take that out. That's a weird division.
I don't like the owners in that division.
I don't like any of them.
If you take out that division,
the first place team
and off in the second,
it's not about just the best quarterback.
Buffalo's got, in that,
division the best front office a fc north steelers ravens best front office a fc west right now
best front office best ownership chiefs philadelphia now with howie roseman and geoffrey lory
in washington i think adam peters is a rising star as a general manager of washington tampa i i
know the glazer family very well non-meddling good people jason light the g m i've been telling you
is one of the best personnel guys in the league.
Detroit, don't love the ownership, love the front office, Brad Holmes,
and Stan Cronky in the Rams, they draft well.
Do that defense is all draft picks outside of safety.
It's good.
They got players.
People just, you do.
So that's why I said with Joe Douglas and Robert Sala,
you may not think Sala's a head coach.
Joe Douglas missed on a quarterback in a COVID year.
So did John Lynch in the Niners.
The COVID year was a curveball to the league.
So did the Bears with Fields.
I mean, that was the Patriots and Matt Jones.
Everybody up.
Take out that.
Basically, Joe Douglas built this roster.
It is a good, good roster.
Small breaking news, according to Jeremy Fowler at the other place,
the Tennessee Titans are making a switch at quarterback.
Mason Rudolph is the logical candidate to step in for Will Levis.
Last week, both of us said Will Levis will probably get a machine.
shot next year. No. No.
How many times have they been to this year? Is this three?
Well, definitely, too.
So this is official. If you're going to Mason Rudolph.
They're in the market. And now listen, Jalen Milro could get in play for the Titans in the
top ten, because Callahan's going to want a quarterback. He's an offensive guy.
He worked with Joe Burrow at Cincinnati.
Okay. So the Raiders Giants will draft a quarterback.
Officially at six, the Titans will pursue a quarterback.
You're going to have to kick the tires. And you can't take you
there. I like yours. You can't take him at six.
No, no, I would take Milrover. I don't know if Milroo is going to make it, but I'm physically,
I think he's a much better Anthony Richardson. And now you need to be much, much better.
Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people
questions because we're sick and tired of being an act.
Ask questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen.
We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an
a a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager.
And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.
I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most podcast.
popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner,
we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the
year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of
the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHart Podcast presents soccer moms.
So I'm Leanne.
Yeah.
This is my best friend, Janet.
Hey.
And we have been joined at the Hips since high school.
Absolutely.
A redacted amount of years.
later. We're still joined at the hip.
Just a little bit bigger hips.
This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
With all the snacks and drinks.
Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
They had a bogo.
Well, then you got them.
Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
