The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Football season is almost here

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Former Texas Longhorn Vince Young joins the show to talk about his former team and his thoughts on the upcoming season Cris Collinsworth also joins The Herd to talk about Andy Reid, the start of the NFL season and more  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We had Urban Meyer on last week. Breaking down the Big Ten. Texas now moves into the SEC from the Big 12. It's just a different conference entirely. One, Big 12, very offensive-driven. SEC got offense, but it's more about defense. Every week you're looking up at somebody that can play. Even the basketball schools Kentucky can play.

So Vince Young in five minutes. Chris Collins were stopped by today. So I've been on this for years now. The Steelers can't get their old line right. They draft and develop. Well, they can't get their old line right. This weekend is bad. Russell Wilson, Justin Field, is bad.

So we saw Belichick, Andy Reid, Pete Carroll get fired. I think it's fair if this thing gets ugly to start worrying about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh. I mean, Russell Wilson had five drives and one first down. Pass protection was awful. He and Justin Fields, and they're mobile. Ten quarterback hits four sacks. And these guys run well. They can't run the football.

Now, they've tried that the last several years, last year, middle of the pack. So in the last five years, Pittsburgh is 30th. 30th in total yards per game. Below Carolina. Below teams, dysfunctional teams like the Raiders and Washington. Only the Jets and Giants are worse. And it doesn't matter if it's old Big Ben, young Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter. And now these guys, two mobile guys, they can't move the ball.

Pass protection is terrible. And by the way, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, the last two years, are the most sack quarterbacks in the league. So if you're wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and Russell is Captain Checkdown this weekend, they don't want to get hit. Would you want to get hit? If the last couple of years you're the most sack guy in the league, I wouldn't want to get hit either. And so when you watch this kind of ineptitude on one side of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell you why. Because organizations, the last 10 years like Washington, the ownership was bad.

They couldn't draft and develop. That's just a broken franchise. The Raiders have felt like a broken franchise. I would say the Jets and the Giants right now. Jets have some players. Let's not be dishonest about that. They got some dudes. But they kind of feel like a broken franchise.

Pittsburgh doesn't. Pittsburgh drafts well. Really well. They develop well. They have excellent ownership. They're not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap. And yet, defensively, they're always elite. yet they're completely utterly inept on one side of the ball.

That's on the head coach. He's run through coordinators. He's run through quarterbacks. That's on Mike Tomlin. They are awful. When a business is not broken, does many things fundamentally well, and you have a department of the business. You know, maybe the sales part of your business is lousy,

but the marketing's good, the engineering's good. well then you have to go as the CEO you've got to go to the sales manager and replace the sales manager because everything else is humming at the company like Pittsburgh does everything well they draft they develop free agency they're smart it's stable

they are just inept offensively young old Mason Rudolph doesn't matter who the quarterback is Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are running for their lives so this is Mike Tomlin's culture it's his locker room

it's his offensive coordinator. It's his responsibility. And Tomlitt acknowledged it's not good on that side of the ball. It's somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't get a chance to see them operate or us operate or us establish rhythm and personality when you're not winning possession downs. And we weren't, you know, the first three or so series of the game, it was, you know, three and out. and you're not going to get an opportunity to establish rhythm

or play the way that you would like as an individual or a collective. We didn't do a good enough job of protecting the quarterback. We got to do a better job in past protection than we did, not only in possession downs, but just in general. And I was really up front with the group about it. In that regard, that can't be a problem for us. We've got to be better than we were tonight in that area. They haven't been good for like seven years in that area,

and they can't produce a rhythm now last year, the year before, the year before. Again, I think Tomlin would be a great broadcaster. I don't think he's a bad coach. But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly and Pete Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out of New England. This is the coach's responsibility. How many OCs we've had in the last seven years? I mean, draft mix, this is an organization like Green Bay that drafts and develops really, really well. It's on Mike.

And it will be on Steve Sarkeesian if. the Texas Longhorns don't get into the playoff and win some games. And let's talk Longhorn football with Vince Young, a college football Hall of Famer, who was 30 and two as the Texas starting quarterback. 319 as an NFL quarterback. I was saying this last week when I knew you were going to be on the show Monday. I said you were the greatest high school football player I've ever seen. I appreciate it.

It doesn't even look. I said it looks like taking a very good NFL player and putting him in a good high school lead. So you were, and then you took Texas to that. went over Michigan and the Rose Bowl, you come back the following year. We actually have high school video. It doesn't even look like you're a high schooler. But what's interesting, I want to talk about your college career. I was at the USC Texas game. Reggie Bush, you. That is the greatest atmosphere and the greatest game I've ever seen. It was, and I sat among Texas fans. And they were so excited because USC was rolling

at that point. Is of all the games you've ever played, high school, college, and pro, Where does that USC Natty rank? That's definitely top five for sure. Because of, like what you just said, you got guys like Reggie Bush, Matt Liner, I mean, the names go on. Roger Clemens on the sideline. Roger Clemens, I mean, we had a good time. Ronnie Locke.

I was happy to meet him. And Pete Carroll, which I'm a big fan of, players coach. And like you said, I hate to see that he was going out of the NFL, which he should be still coaching. But it was just tremendous from start to finish, even when we was going to Disneyland. It was fun just being. and I in this atmosphere, but those guys

were the best team, and we wanted to play them. And if you notice what I said last year, the year before, when I was played Michigan, I was like, we'll be back. And we went to work that whole summer, and we got prepared to try to get to that national championship. By the way,

the Michigan game was wild as well. People... Tough game, too. It was crazy. That's what the beginning, when the Rose Bowl sort of broke away from tradition, and you had Texas playing in a Rose Bowl, and I was like, I'm good with it. I'm good with it. Granddaddy of them all. Yeah, it is special. So we talk about this with Texas. I think college football has two or three, only two or three, what I would call glamour programs.

USC and Texas top of the list. Notre Dame still viewed academically. Miami, I always felt, had a little bit of a glamour to it, big city. Oh, yeah. Texas football doesn't feel like Norman, Oklahoma. It doesn't feel like Ann Arbor. It's big city. When you were in college, and you were a star. It is, did it compare to some of your NFL days? Because you played in a smaller NFL city. It just feels like almost a pro team.

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why you, you know, you notice that Oklahoma, Oakland, they was trying to come to Texas for San Antonio's between San Antonio and Austin. But it didn't happen because nobody can compete with the University of Texas. So, you know, when I was there, It was tough, but thank God I had guys like Chris Sims there to kind of follow him,

his day-to-day routines, how to carry yourself as a quarterback on campus, going to classes, these type of things, how to be a quarterback at the University of Texas, which is not easy. But in the same time, I have fun. I learned a lot, and I do a lot of respect to Coach Brown for redshirting me to see that, you know, traveling with the team on the way games and stuff like that, holding a clipboard and writing down the plays. I mean, all that type of thing, those things,

be more mature as a young man. You know, these days, it's very hard to get somebody that's as good as you in high school. It would be virtually impossible to ask him to back up. It was hard. Oh, I know, because you were the most dominant Texas high school football player probably ever. Do you worry that the transfer portal, kids now quarterbacks, they want a player, they'll just transfer. And you had to sit for a year and grow up, and it was hard. we're not going to see a lot of that.

Does that worry at all? Yeah, in a way. I think it's not good because the world doesn't go like that. You can't just tell people that you want to just leave up and like that. Even in a five or nine job, you can't. You've got to still put in two-week notice before you leave. So that's going to be a mentally challenge for all younger, younger players, especially at the quarterback position.

I feel like, you know, what Archie Manny is doing right now. It's great. It's great for him, you know. The NFL is not going no. And for you to just sit back, get ahead in your books, learn the plays, learn the game, learn the way how to travel, how to be a leader, learn these things, which he has like the best people in the world to teach him that from Peyton to Eli and his father, and as well as myself, you know, talking to him every day when I'm around campus. So I feel like what he's doing right now is going to have him really prepared to play when it's his time. So Sark brought you in as a special assistant. And first of all, what does that, what do you do with Texas? Well, I'm just, I'm an athletic assistant AD. So I just basically, you know, help with recruiting, raising money for funds and things like that,

just being visible on campus, being a big brother for the younger guys and, you know, going to speak to the, you know, different classes and things like that. Just being an ambassador for the university. So it's been real fun, you know. Earl Campbell can't do it as much as he could like he used to. So learning from him throughout the years

and doing some things to help, you know, but make sure our university is still on the map in the right way. So I said, JMAQ loves Quinn Ewers, and I've said, I don't doubt the talent. He's a little loose to me. He can be a little loose.

And so much, when you get into these big games, this is not the Big 12 anymore. You can't make those mistakes in the SEC. The defenses are better. The games will be closer. Yes. I mean, Texas basically shows up outside of Oklahoma.

You have better players than everybody. Well, now it's LSU. Now it's Georgia. Now it's Bama. You can't make those big picks in the SEC. Yes. Do you think Quinn Ewers can maintain his talent that he's got a whip? Oh, yeah.

But do you, are you think he's matured? Yes, I think he has. I think that's one of the biggest things that myself, as well as Coach Stark has seen throughout this summer to now, his maturity level is, it's took to a whole other level, as well as his leadership role. And that's pretty good for him because he's more as a veteran. He has more game reps underneath his belt. So just to see him become a leader, I think he could, I think he can be more voiceable to speak more.

More a little bit. Yeah, a little bit more. But overall, overall, his talent, the smartness of a game, the IQ of the game is starting to take off. So I'm looking forward to a good year for him. The main thing is like what you just said. He got to understand every week is going to be a tough game. And also, it's going to be your first year in the SEC. So what legacy you want to leave that team this year got to be.

So I've been a fan of Sark forever. He had some personal struggles. He got over those. He's a tremendous coach. He's a great recruiter. I think he fits Texas. Because I've always thought Texas is the only kind of big 12 school. It feels a little Pac-12.

It's kind of cool. Like a lot of college towns aren't cool. Austin feels like kind of a cool town. It's got a little less. I know for years the Pac-12 wanted to bring Texas in and Texas said no thanks. When you look at Sark and you know Sark, what does he do best? What do you really like about his coaching style? Well, you just hit to know he'd been through everything from personal things that he had in his life as well as coaching things as well at USC.

Then he also was with Nick Saban underneath the brand as well. So he's seen a lot. So the way he's building out the school is exactly what UT is bonding, you know, caring about each other, taking care of your responsibility, treating you like a young man. So to see that chemistry is picking up, the team is going to play better. Because when we was playing there, Coach Brown was big on that. Chemistry, protect each other, you know, be, go to class, do what you have to do, your responsibilities. And to see that now, Coach Stark has brought that back into our school.

And now you see we're starting to get into that rhythm back to winning, you know, being at the playoffs this year. Tough loss. But, you know, the chemistry to get there. have that identity that we know who we are. Now we know when we can go out there on this football field, what we need to do to get back to the playoffs. Is it harder? Like if you're, some of these college towns, I'll be honest, are boring.

Is it, and I've said this about USC, it's a distracting city. Oh, yeah, it's tough. Is it harder in Austin? This town doesn't go to bed at 745. Yes. Is it harder sometimes to be more focused as an athlete? It's beautiful people. It's a music scene.

Right. Great food in Austin. It's like the truck scene. the food truck scene. It's up till midnight every night. It's not your typical college town. Same with Miami. Same with USC.

I've seen these programs get distracted. Is that still an issue with Sark? Do you have to preach that a lot? Yeah, that's going to fall back on Quinn. That's Quinn and the rest of the leaders on the football team. If you can't stay your butt at home and what's more important than graduating and win the international championship, then you do need to transfer and get into transfer in hurdle because that's not the type of players that we're producing at the.

University of Texas. We want to know that I can depend on my man on my right and my man on my left. And that's the main thing. So I hope Quinn, and I know coach is saying that, the coached staff is saying that so it has to go down to the leaders. And that was one of the things that we did when we was there, we had guys like Michael Huff. We had right. We had all the leaders. Bow, the tight end. We had leaders trickling everything that Mack Brown was telling us as leaders to make sure we tell it to our team. So Quinn and the rest of his guys as leaders, I'd be like, man, if you can't understand what's the bigger picture than what we're doing

because you need to go out and party, then you don't need to be here. And that's for him to go tell his co-start that this guy needs to be out of off our team because he has a distraction. If you go back, and I've talked to Michael Vick, I've talked to all sorts of players about this. Have you had a winning record? Obviously, you got to the playoffs in your NFL career. Now that you have perspective, you were young, you were a star, you got paid, you were, and

if you look back at your NFL career and say, hey, I could just change one thing. And again, hindsight's 2020. We're all geniuses. But if you could change anything in your NFL career, because it wasn't that you weren't productive, that wasn't it. What would it be? One thing. Probably

just a little bit more working harder, a little harder, staying a little bit longer. You know, things like that. You know, understanding you're a professional that this organization put invested a lot of money into you. And making sure I have my foundation right,

off the field foundation things. So you can focus on playing the game. So those type of things I say. So when I speak to kids now, make sure you got the right people in your corner that's going to don't want nothing from you but to see you prosper and be successful. Make sure you have those people around you.

So I'll tell people that what I do. I'll change that for myself. So if you run into Matt Leinert in the hallway, he works here at Fox. What are your conversations like? What a big guy? How's the golf game? He don't want to talk to the game.

No, he gets enough of that already. When you were in that game, did you realize how great of a game it was, even as a player, did you understand? Remember the stealth bomber flew over for the answer? Exactly. The national anthem was huge. She sung our butt off.

Reggie Bush, the weird lateral. Yes. When you were in a game like that, had you ever been in a game that you knew, oh, this is a classic? This is going to be one of the great games ever talked about. Did you sense it during the game? Well, I sensed it at the Hizman, actually. You know, I was pretty upset that I lost at Housman, but going up to the game, the hype of it, it was something I never seen before. So even I was nervous.

I was a little scared walking into this game. and what, you know, what do I need to do to make the Longhorn successful? So, you know, a lot of praying, a lot of extra work, a lot of extra film work with Coach Greg Davis. I'll take it to the next level because I didn't want to embarrass not only us as a university but myself. So it was, it was a big game and I was definitely afraid. It's an all-timer. And, yeah, I can remember sitting in the Texas section and just I love the Texas fans. They weren't obnoxious.

I think we all realized in that game, everybody's sitting there, realized, oh, this is special. Yeah. It was a perfectly beautiful night. It was a gorgeous night. And the Texas and USC colors, as the sun went down, it was like the whole stadium was like burnt orange and gold and golden. It was just stunning. Yes. A beautiful, beautiful night.

Wonderful moment. Okay, so this is, now you start looking at that Texas schedule. There's a Georgia game, if I recall. Yes. Okay. Let's say, Texas makes a play. And Texas wins a game in the playoff. But they don't win a second game.

How's it going to land in Texas? It's not going to sit well. We're going to still be happy. We're, you know, just to be a team that make it get back going. Like, it's been a while since we've been doing the things that we've been doing. So as a fan and as an alumnus, we're excited with the direction that we're going in. So the main thing is that we learned from off last year from that game playing. against Washington in that game.

Did we learn from that? And I know, I know the players, that was a sick feeling for them. Yeah. Because you was a game, you was, what, a field goal and a couple points away from winning that game. So the main thing is how your mentality is right now. That's why I said, I feel like Quinn has matured a little bit because of that game. Sure. So now he understands it's no more turning back.

We have to, we have to continue to be the face of this new, you know, 12 team play. We have to finish. And I feel like they can do it. With the coaching staff as well as the players that we have, I feel like they can do it. It's all about the mindset we were just talking about. Vince Young, an all-time great, NFL offensive rookie of the year, 31 and 19 in the NFL, and one of the faces of the great Texas Longhorns program, well-run, top to bottom. Great to meet you.

Great to see you. Oh, by the way, if you're in Austin, 16 years running, I've been to it a couple times. Great best steakhouse in Austin. Thank you. It's, uh, Vince Young Steakhouse. It's really good. So yeah, if you come into that Georgia game,

you better like reserve it now. That's going to be the game. That Oregon plays Ohio State and Eugene and Georgia, Texas, mark it down are the two college football games of note. And there's going to be a lot of good ones, but those are great. Yeah, that's going to be a big one, especially in doubt that in the Michigan game, too, is going to be another one we got. Great senior.

So that's going to help their identity. Yep. Those are identity-changing games. Exactly. Texas's got to win those big games. It's great to see you. Good to see you. I just discovered JLab headphones.

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That one hurt you, huh? That was such a game. Oh, my gosh. I, you know, USC was down two corners. and they couldn't get fourth down in inches and Lendale White got stopped. I'm not going to blame anybody, which is... I don't ever mention it when I see Linerd.

All right, let's get started here. First up, Caitlin Clark, Colin, record-setting performance in the Fever's win over the Seattle Storm on Sunday. But check out this moment, okay? So number four on Seattle is Skyler Diggins-Smith, who was a big deal at Notre Dame. She was super popular,

and for whatever reason, I guess she got irked by Clark egging on the crowd. Look at this. She speeds up, bumps into Clark. And then one of the Seattle coaches is like, referees, look, Caitlin Clark pushed her. Like lobbying for another technical on Caitlin Clark. Colin, I know people get upset when the word jealousy is throwing around.

Oh, there's some pettiness here. Diggins is a, she was a really strong player, super popular, you know, big on social media. And like, Caitlin Clark has taken over this league now. Taking it over. And I'm just telling you, the fever are coming. I know that we were hurt that she wasn't on the Olympic team. But that rest, she looks totally rejuvenated. She's playing in a different pace yesterday.

Yep. Going up and down the court, layups, fast break. Like, I'm just saying, watch out for the fever. This team is going to be a tough out in the playoffs. I know people are like, just be quiet, stop. You guys have to be watching these games. I watch this game. Yeah.

Like, they're going after Clark. They're angry at her. The coaches were jostling at the end of the game because the Seattle coach is so upset with Caitlin Clark. People don't like her. I just don't get it, Colin. Well, I think this league has always had been a little insular, feel like they've been ignored. That's right.

But in fairness, they don't make any money. And she's the first rock star. They've had good players. They don't have needle movers. And so, you know, she's, they have kind of a club. Remember Bryce Harper, the crap he got for three years? Baseball is very insular. We don't need you.

We don't care if we're not football. There's a way to play the game. Bryce Harper's like, nah, you guys have some fun. Yeah. And he had teammates push back on him. It's the baseball and WNBA feel like they're a little precious. You know, there's a way to play the game. It's like, no, bro, it's all about money.

Soccer's starting to move away from that crowd. Do not be that guy. You get precious. And, you know, you don't get us. You don't get an opinion. Why NFL is king and why the NBA just got a $7 billion annual deal. Come on. Join the club.

It's fun. And didn't you do a segment earlier about? about baseball being, having some questions. Next summer, there's no Euros, right? There's no Copa. There's no Olympics. WNBA, if they play their cards right, can really load up the schedule in summer months with Kate.

Don't front load the schedule like they did this year. No. It's been a distracting summer. We got, you know, White House is up for grabs. Copa, euros. Wait until that all moves aside for the WNBA. You know, we always talk about, What's the NFL, the NBA, baseball, hockey, or the four big professional leagues?

UFC feels. Soccer, come on. I need soccer. MLS, okay. WNBA, by next summer, may join that. It's been a professional league, but, I mean, will be a revenue-producing league that can stand on its own feet. I'm telling you, it's going to explode next year. Women's college basketball.

They got juju here at USC season. And the advantage is women's players. It's a huge advantage. The WNBA draft, you know the top eight players. They all played in college for four years at UConn or South Carolina or Baylor, Stanford. NBA draft, I'm like, what league, what country, what, I mean, I don't know who the players are. All right, this next story, this is a tough one, Colin. So Tua Tung of Iloa has flourished over the last two seasons with Mike McDanielas as a head coach.

Before that, though, he had Brian Flores, who has, you know, a bit of a reputation as a tough guy to play for. Well, Tua was asked about the difference between the two coaches. He had like that pregnant pause, and then he said, what if you woke up every morning and were told that you suck at what you do and that somebody else should come in and tell you, dude, you're not the best fit for this? How would it make you feel after listening to that every day? And that's what he said Brian Flores was treating him like. And that is not good at all. Well, it's why Brian Flores is not a head coach. It's not because he can't coach.

he turned the dolphins around. Remember that rookie year? They got blown out by Baltimore early. By week eight, you're like special teams in defense, totally different. But he was a Belichick guy. They come in, they're gruff, they're harsh, they're loud, and this is why Brian Flores is not a head coach. It's not that he lacks the talent, because if you go back and look what he did in two years in Miami, you could see his footprint on that team. That defense and those special teams were sensational. But relationships matter, and he's very full. at that. Maybe he's just immature. Leagues never been more collaborative.

Belichick's not very collaborative. The New England guys aren't very collaborative. And, you know, we'll see what happens with Flores in Minnesota, because there's a world where Minnesota's good offensively we know with O'Connell and Flores gets that defense all fired up. What if they make the playoffs? Does Flores start to get head

coaching looks next up? I don't know. I think you'll get a second one because I think DeMico Ryan's is going to flourish in Houston and people will go, okay, if you get the right defensive coach, Brian is too, Brian Flores is too good not to get a second chance. I think he's too good.

We'll see. It was a really ugly end in Miami. Now, Tua's coming out and saying this. Why would you tell your rookie quarterback that he sucks every day? Now, I don't think Tua is exaggerating. He doesn't seem like that kind of guy, but I'm glad that Tua's turned it around, Colin. I'll just say that. And I'm not a dolphins guy. You know, I'm a Jets fan. I think we root for people on this show. Yeah, I like, I like to, I love

Mike McDaniel, big fan. Final story, and we touched on this earlier, but I know you're hot for it. You love it. Mike Tyson and Jake Paul went at it over the weekend. A little posturing. We now have sound here. So things got very heated. They took jabs. Here's a listen. There's a lot of bleeped out stuff, but we gave you what we could. Here's the best stuff. We got a YouTuber fighting the greatest fighter that ever lived. Every time, every time these fighters sit across from me and it's YouTubers, it's Disney Channel, all that shit. And then you end up on the fucking canvas and you'll see.

It's going to be no different here. I promise you that. You know what? Jake Paul... Jake Paul's like 25 years younger than this guy. Well, there's no... I think... Come on.

First two rounds to Tyson, after that, it's all Jake Paul. Well, assuming it goes beyond two rounds. Well, I just don't think... I mean, Tyson had a health scare, late 50s. Yeah, he's... You know the stuff he's been putting in his body for... I mean, he's got...

Come on. No, I don't think Jake Paul's entire life has been blueberries and cantalope in the morning. I think he's probably... He's probably had a good time in his life. I don't know. Should we wager on? Is this a fight you'd wager on or no?

Well, it's, I just, this made me feel it was scripted. This whole thing, they're smiling as they do it. It's like, big marketing play from both sides. I'm sure there means talking stuff. I'll probably, I'll be honest. I'm not sure if it'll get me. I'm a Netflix guy. I watch a lot of, I've watched Netflix all weekend.

I'm not sure. Did you check out Emily and Paris, the new season just started? No, I don't. Vince Vaughn has a new series I'm gonna watch. Oh yeah. Another guy in the South Bay. Nice guy, nice gentleman.

So I'm gonna watch them. My wife just started watching the Vince Vaughn series. She got a couple episodes and she said, it's good. You liked it. What about the Apple TV show with Jake Gyllenhaal, presumed innocent? I love the movie. I don't need to watch the series. So you can tell me, Jay, you got to check this show out.

If there was a, I just like. But I offer you something good and you're like, eh. No, but Anne told me. She goes, oh, it's great. And I'm like, I love the movie. movie. I don't need to see. I love the movie. Okay. Well, let me give you one for your flight. Ballers. The Rock?

I'm not, I don't watch stuff like that. Dude, I just started re-watching that. It's amazing. It's so good. I'm not really into that stuff. I don't watch a lot of sports. I read sports books. I watch non-sports. Because I'm watching games all day. Yeah. Yeah. But I read, you know, Ian O'Connor, Jeff Benedict, Armand Catan. If you come out with a sports book, I'll read it. I like that. But I, for television, streaming, docs. I like non-sports. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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Man, you've had a career. You have really had a career. You know, I look at the NFL, and it feels like over the last eight to ten years, you played in an NFL where receivers, headhunters, they could grab you. It was not very friendly to offense. The league is completely pivoted now, where you, you know, and I think it's the right. for safety, I think it's the right space. So Ravens Chiefs,

week one, that's your first matchup. I said if Andy Reid wins three straight, we're going to have to have to have real conversations about best football coach ever Walsh Belichick, because he's doing it now

without the receiving core. How do you view historically? And I know this stuff, you have knowledge of it and it matters to you. How do you view Andy Reed? Is he our best coach in the last decade? Could he end up being the best coach ever? Maybe. Maybe

he was he was, it's been unbelievable. And I'd tell you, he was so far ahead of the curve when it came to throw in the ball like 60% of the time. I mean, I can remember having conversations with him, like, are you crazy? Like, what are you doing?

Why aren't you balancing out, run past? Everybody talks about it. Everybody in Philadelphia was mad about it. Everybody, all the experts, myself included, like, that's crazy, 60% throwing to football and how can you do this? And you're never going to win a Super Bowl like that. And all you needed was just a little bit better player or quarterback. He ends up getting a great one. But he, I tell you, he is, for somebody my age, he's still so hip with the players.

I mean, he lets them literally go out and go out. and goof around like they're in PE class. Yeah. And Dream Up plays, especially down in the Red Zone. And they're having a blast. They're having fun. They're joking, laughing, goofing around. And then they bring him back to him.

And he goes, well, okay, I've got to do a little bit of this. And then they'll run it, you know, three or four times in practice during the year. And they'll tweak it. And then a couple of them will come out of it. But you can see the literal joy on their faces, when one of their plays that they dreamt up scores a touchdown and a game. And so he's engaging with these players

on so many different levels that it's fun to watch them practice. It's fun to watch them play the games. And it's fun to watch them interact with Andy Reid because he's still cool. He's still cool. Yeah. You know, Chris, so much we forget for quarterbacks

occasionally, maybe once a decade, you'll get an Lway or an Andrew Luck. who are going to blow through roadblocks and obstacles, but situationally and fit is so valuable, not just to football players, to all young people, the right college you choose. It doesn't have to be Princeton. It can be the right fit.

You're close to your mom and dad. I look at Boe Nixon-Paton, and Chris, I see Breeze. I mean, this kid, seven drives scored on six. I think you can tell, I know it's preseason, Chris, but I'm watching it. I don't know.

That looks like, oh, they found their guy. I know I'm being hyper here, but I think it looks like it works right now. Yeah, I don't think you're going too crazy on it. And the reason why O'Nicks was the one guy I thought was going to be the upset choice. I thought he was going to go fourth in the draft because, fourth as the quarterback, because of the fact that when you watched him play in college, he was a quick release guy. the hardest thing to drill into these young quarterback's heads is that you have two and a half seconds to throw the ball. I mean, they are used to Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May.

They're used to having four or five and they're athletic so they can buy six, seven seconds and run around. When you play in the NFL, if I were a head coach, I would sit behind my quarterback with a foghorn. And when it got the two and a half seconds, I would destroy his. his ear drums because that's when you're going to get hit in the back of the head of the NFL. Bo Nix played his college football getting rid of the ball on time. Getting rid of the ball on time, he didn't put up some of the gaudy deep ball numbers that these guys did, but he played like it was an NFL game, and that's why you're seeing him have this early success.

Caleb Williams, I watched every snap at USC that mattered. The criticism, and I think it's just, is that he can. can be a little ad liby. And I've argued, Mahomes has gotten better without Tyreek Hill. It's forced him to be more efficient, get rid of the ball quicker, you don't get the lollipop throws,

Caleb's going to make those. I watched him, you know, this weekend, and I'm like, yeah, he likes to take off. Are you, is that a fair criticism? Are you a little concerned with sometimes your greatest gift becomes a burden?

I think it happened to Justin Fields a little bit. Yeah. You know, your whole life, the best option has always been to take off and run. I mean, you're a better athlete. You're a better athlete on the basketball floor, on the baseball field, on the football field. You were always a better athlete. So if you took off and ran, that was always going to work.

Now you're in the national football league. Now there are athletes that are playing on the edge and that are playing cornerbacks and safeties that are rushing you. and they're as good, if not better, athletes than you are. So now comes the hard part. Now you have to stand in there. You have to be able to get rid of the ball quickly. Because as an offensive line, your quarterback can make you look horrible if you sit back

and scramble all day long. What you want is an occasional playoff. Caleb, give me one where you're sitting there and we hiked the ball to you and you throw it in two seconds. Because what it does is it frustrates the pass rushers. Instead of them setting up these big elaborate, quick arm over kind of moves that all these guys can do, now they're forced to come back to the bull rush. Now they're forced to try and come back and run through you. Well, now is a big offensive lineman. I don't want to deal with all that speed, every snap. That's the same reason that you see people at the end of the game when it's a blowout

getting all their sacks. Because now they can set you up. They can do all this stuff. So, I think Caleb Williams and all these guys, Jaden Daniels is fantastic. Greg May is fantastic at escaping, being athletic and doing it. But if I were coaching them, what I would tell them is, do your offensive line in a favor. Occasionally, drop back, throw one out of there in two seconds. If it's every third or fourth row, it may not seem like anything to you, but it is a huge asset for those big guys up from. You know, so much of the Aaron Rogers situation is, listen, he makes them relevant, like Farr briefly, but that went sideways.

And they've been looking for a quarterback, like since Namath. They've had athletic guys. They've had Chad Pennington, I always thought was underrated. He was really good. But they've been looking forever. And they miss on Zach Wilson, so let's go get Aaron. I don't think I'm being unfair when I say, guys, he's 40. the last time I saw him in Green Bay, it wasn't great, and that was with the veteran line.

AFC is great, it's loaded, and there's so many remarkable young men playing quarterback in the AFC alone. It's just incredible. I mean, you had to go seven deep, and you get to maybe a Trevor Lawrence or Deshawn Watson. And so my takeaway is, if it just rests on Aaron Rogers, this is not going to be a great team. The O line has to work. Garrett Wilson needs a second, you know, I think we're being unrealistic on what a 40-year-old quarterback can do off surgery. Is that reasonable?

It's definitely reasonable. I think if you, at least when I saw a few clips of him practicing early on, I thought I could still see him kind of favoring that leg a little bit on bootleg runs and some different things. I'm sure he's healthier now than what he was. He has good players. around them. I mean, Brees Hall is a good player. Garrett Wilson is a good player. Probably what's going to decide it most is how these tackles play. You know, Tyrant Smith and Morgan Moses is certainly

going to help that. Foshneu comes in, gives them a third one. But we know what they have on the defensive side of the ball. And I don't know that Aaron Rogers has ever had the ability to win a game scoring 20 points. If they can score 20 to 24 points a game with the Jets, They've got a chance to win a bunch. And I think what you want to do is give yourself a chance in the fourth quarter with Aaron Rogers, right? Let's tap in to that experience. Let's tap into what he can do and know how to law offenses and use the brainpower, one of the smartest guys you ever meet in the national football lady,

and use that to go win a game in the clutch. So I think they'll still lean on the defense and the way they can play on that side of the ball. I mean, they have great players over there. And let's see what 24 to 17 feels like for the New York Jets for a little while. Now, tough division, you know, it's going to be hard to get out of that one. But I've seen Aaron Rogers do so many great things during the course of my broadcasting career. And I think he can think his way out and around issues that other quarterbacks can't. A lot of these other quarterbacks are still very young.

As long as physically he can still move a little bit and that offensive line holds up, I think Quinnon and Quincy Williams and CJ Mosley still can lead them to a division title if he plays well. All right, PFF, Chris owns it, PFF having pre-season flash sale, okay, for PFF Plus. So this is a service we use a lot. Use the code PFF 25. That's PFF 25 at checkout, 25 off your purchases. I don't know. I'm jealous very rarely. am jealous that you own this because it's smart and it's thoughtful and i'm like okay he's an emmy

award winner is a broadcaster he's a great broadcaster he's a great football player oh he has to be good in business too i'll be honest don't love that you're good i just want to be your partner i've heard about your business i just want to be your partner now it's great seeing you chris congrats and all your success thanks colin good talk to you all right pff check it out pf 25 at checkout, 25% off your purchases. And I remember when he was a Florida gator. You know, that's what's called Wisdom, J-Mack. Not out here flailing.

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dot com furnished by tire rack tyraqttttaccom the way tire bag should be that's quite a show today you know it's a good show when it flies by and it flew by no first things first today it's all you have to watch the rest of the day you just go go take a nap where are they going on the vacation for those guys yeah probably i see broussard golfing all over instagram he's living it up i don't have time for that it's all the ground i know you don't follow me it's very upsetting I don't follow you. Is that a personal thing? It's not really a personal thing.

It's just all, is it all glamour shots and biceps? No, I mean, not really. No. Yeah. There's some wisdom in there. Some pearls of wisdom, gambling. I'm so excited. By the way, yeah, yeah.

Can I tell you my bets I'm not going to make in Lasing 5? Oh, I've already got them too. You've already made the bets. Oh, by the way, college football week zero this weekend. Will you have any action on the games? We should do a segment tomorrow, talk. talking about that. Okay.

We should have... We'll do a segment. If I was going to do the Blazing Five, these would be the picks. Just tantalizing it. The audience is going to shame you into doing a Blazeman's part. Blasey five. Be careful on that Niners Jets game. Well, obviously.

Everybody's betting the Niners. Stay away. Be very careful on that game. Is Trent Williams playing? I don't know. Brandon I, you. Who knows? Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Cliverd Show on the I-Heart Radio app,

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