The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Getting ready for the big game

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Made the playoffs seven years, seven times and eight years with the Packers. James Jones, Super Bowl champ, here at Fox Sports. So let's go back. You were in a Super Bowl, so you know there's the week before Super Bowl week, which is installation. What about this week? Pain in the butt, media tickets, pain on the butt?

Monday and Tuesday. is cool. Monday and Tuesday is real cool. You get your tickets is done. They're out of the way. You know what I mean? Media day, media night. Tuesday, you meet with the media again. Wednesday, you're tired of talking to people. You're tired of all that. You are ready to get to the game and you are ready to play. Especially this is your first time being there for a lot of players. You know what I mean? You're juggling a lot of stuff. You got all this media. You're tired of talking to the media. By Wednesday, you are ready to play the football game. I'm ready to install. I don't want to do none of this stuff. want to talk to nobody else, my family, nobody. I'm ready to play this game, you know,

and that's how the week's going. So they're excited right now, right? It's Tuesday. They're still excited. Do you remember your first? Bill Romanoowski once told me he doesn't remember his first series. He was so nervous. Yeah. He goes, I just saw a flashball. Yeah. Do you remember your first series? I remember my first series, but the thing I remember most is walking out on the field for the very first time. So I dislocated my ring finger and I dislocated my ring finger on this finger. So through the whole playoffs, I was getting my hand shot up. So I could not feel these two fingers. I only felt the outside three for all the playoffs.

And when I practiced, I didn't catch the ball. I just ran the routes for the timing and all that. And I walked out there for the first time with Super Bowl. And I remember Pam Oliver grabbing me. And she was asking me a couple questions like, JJ, how you feel? And I'm like, I feel good. And Aaron had trotted out there and we're catching. and passes. And I don't feel nothing. And I have not shot my fingers up. Like, you couldn't

even touch my... And I'm like, I know my adrenaline is not kicking like this. And I said, Pam, I said, Pam, I got to sit down. Like, I just knew from that moment this is a different game. So you had so much adrenaline, could not feel the pain. Feel nothing. Didn't shoot them up for Super Bowl? None of that. Could not feel nothing. And I was like, okay, this ain't just no regular playoff game. I said, I need to sit down. Do you remember your first route and catch? I remember my first round catch. I caught the, I ran a hitch. I caught a hitch. It was like third down. They brought it, they brought an empty blitz on there and he got the ball out to me quick. And Ike Taylor tackled me like, boom. And when Ike Taylor tackled me right when I caught it,

I'm like, it's 32 people on defense. Like I ain't, I'm like, huh? The game ain't never moved as fast. I ain't never like got hit like boom, like right then and there. And I'm like, oh, this is, this is a different This is, this is. Everybody's playing at a different speed. Everybody's playing at a different speed. And did you feel it throughout the game? Throughout the game. Throughout the game.

What do you mean? Since the very last series I feel like usually when you preseason is one speed, right? Boom, boom. Regular season is another speed. Playoffs, everybody know you lose, you go home. You know it's a different speed. Super Bowl? It's on a whole other level every single play.

I felt like it was 32 people on defense every single time. I caught the football all the way until the last series that we had. banged on, even when you didn't have the ball. That's when I knew, like, oh, this is different. Like, people are hitting me without the ball. Like, I got to have my head on a swivel during, like, that's not usually how it is. Usually even during the game when you're blocking a DB, he's like, hey, ball over there, you good, you good.

No, no. No, no, this is totally different. And I'm like, this here's a different game. These are more trash talk or less? Um, it's more because it's a whole lot more chippy. So when it's chippy, it's a lot more talking to. You know, you guys are? Yeah, yeah.

Even after the play, walking past you, it's a little bump. You know, I'm like, yeah, I'm here. It's totally different. You know what? When we get in the ratings period, that's how we do it. You come on the show, we give you a little. There you go. There you go.

Wake up. You're coming on our show. You're ready for the show. It's the fall. No doubt. You'll bring your A game. No doubt about it. So when you, um, so it would make sense that Mahomes wouldn't quite be, is that amped up

and pretty. Yeah, Mahomes. And that's the thing. So, I mean, obviously I didn't have an opportunity to go back to a another, but I had an opportunity to go back to other NFC championships games. So you're still going to feel that. Patrick Mahomes is still going to feel that. He knows Patrick Mahomes is chasing something different than Brock Purdy's chasing. He's chasing a whole different legacy.

So he's still going to have some of that knowing that he's in the Super Bowl. But there's nothing, nothing Cal Shanahan can do, nothing Brock Purdy's mom can do, nothing his teammates can do to get him ready for when he walks out on that football field for the first time and says, Blue 42. Blue 42 said how it's going to be a different feeling. He is going to know it right away. Now the crowd's not as loud because it's corporate. So did you notice that?

Nope. My adrenaline was kicking so much. You know, you heard our fans when they had the ball. You heard their fans when we had the ball. Did it affect Aaron at all? No, no, no. It wasn't like too loud. His ball wasn't safe.

No, no, no. And it wasn't too loud to we're like, man, we can't hear when we have the ball and all that. So, you know, the crowds are 50-50. So they'll be fine. It's not like they got to go in silent mode or none of that, but it's just a different game, man. It's a different feeling. People ask me all the time. I can't even explain it to you, man.

It's just one of them type games. Yeah, because you had Packers that had been there. Well, we were really young. I think we only had three players that had ever played in the Super Bowl. It was Charles Woodson, and we picked up a couple guys via free agents. What are Charles saying? Did he do a speech before the game? Well, Charles did a speech all the way up in the playoffs all the way up through the Super Bowl.

Did he tell you it was going to be fast? Oh, yeah. He told us it's going to be fast. He said, and he's telling me like I'm telling Brock Purdy right now, nothing is preparing you. I hear Coach Mike talking. I hear your position coach. Nothing is preparing you for what you are about to walk into. Know your assignment like the back of your hand.

Get ready to go because when you step on this field, it is going to be a different feeling when you step on this field. And it's nothing your coach can prepare you for. Like I remember after my first catch, I was walking today's eye line. I caught the ball, got tag a rule. quick, I'm like, I'm still like, man, this is, this is, this is crazy. And you're going to the Steelers side. You know what I'm saying? I'm going. That is so funny. The, um, what do you make of this story about Mike Rable, a general manager says his physical stature is intimidating? And there are teams that may, that may be off putting the teams. Do you ever have a big coach?

I mean, I think that this is ridiculous. I don't, I don't understand this right here. I mean, if you want to call coach Mike big, you could call coach Mike. big, but I mean, like, I always truly felt that the team takes on your coach's mindset. So when you have a big physical coach, you're going to have a physical football team. Absolutely. So I don't understand. You look at Mike Raverill's football team. They're very, very physical. How about your Raiders with Antonio Pierce? No question. You see how physical they were at the end of the season. It was crazy. And even just mindset wise. So I absolutely love coaches like this because it's no coincidence when you see like, they're not as physical.

Look at the head coach. The team takes on the mindset and the motto of the head coach. Point Blake, period. In the interviews, you see how certain people talk with certain head coaches. On the football field, you see how they play. Even when you see head coaching changes and you see a different mindset of a head coach coming there and you're like, dang, all of a sudden, that team got physical. It's the mindset of the head coach.

Absolutely. You are going to see that with the charges this season. And it's probably going to be a lot of the same players, and you're going to see a different mindset, a different physicality from those teams with the head coaches. So as a coach walking in there, the size of them and all that, I think that's absolutely crazy. James Jones, Super Bowl champ, former Packer wide receiver great.

You know, I was saying this is that Bill Russell's got 11 rings, Michael 6, and we consider Michael the goat. No doubt. That largely we don't look just at titles. MJ is the exception because I think we loved MJ so much. And how it looked. It looked good.

Like I think Mahomes it looks so spectacular that I think if he wins Sunday with a receiving core that has been a work in progress I think there will be people that will say that's the best there's ever been. Would you be bothered by that?

I would not be bothered by that because I've seen Patrick Mahomes with my own two. eyes and how it looks. You know, I don't necessarily think Patrick Mahomes needs seven championships to be considered the goat with Tom Brady. So Michael didn't need 11 to surpassed. No, because of the way it looks. No, when you talk about Tom Brady, you don't say, wow, did you see his talent? Did you see? No, Tom Brady's the greatest winner we've ever seen in the game. A lot of it was cognitive, one of the greatest leaders that we've ever seen. Yes. And now he's labeled as the greatest quarterback that has ever played the game, not because of talent, because of his ability

to win and to make sure that his teammates, mindset-wise, can get to that point as well. The most, I think, did I, Jay Mack, did I have this with you? The most talented quarterback I've ever seen is Mahomes. Before Mahomes, it was Dan Marino. No, Aaron. No, Aaron's great. I'm not saying that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio. F-S-1 and the I-Hard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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Dan Marino is the great. In fact, I've used Aaron, because I always was more of an Aaron guy than a FARV guy, because I thought Aaron played with more efficiency. And Aaron's a top 10, 12 guy. I'm not denying that. But Dan Marino is the quarterback, and I was an Elway guy. And I always thought Dan had more talent. No doubt.

I thought John had some sort of Stanford leadership. John had a certain focus in big games late. But so I've never been like most, I mean, I think LeBron does far more well than Michael Jordan. Doesn't mean he's better, but he does far more well. I think Mahomes is the best I've ever seen do it. And I think he's getting closer. He's not there yet to being Tom pre-snap. No doubt.

He's damn good. Yeah. He's not quite there yet. No doubt. Yeah, Tom, Tom pre-snap was on a whole different level. He was never. Knowing exactly what the defense was doing, knowing exactly what play to get in, he was on a whole, whole, whole different level.

And that's what really made him great. And that's what got him in the football games late to where when you knew Tom Brady was going to touch the football, you knew the game was old. Take out Aaron and Farve, because you're closer to them. Yeah. Take out Aaron and Farv. When you were at a game, who was the best quarterback you ever saw on the other team, other sideline, and you were like, wow.

Besides Tom. But no, no. Okay, so Tom was it? Yes, yeah, I played against Tom. And when you watched him, what was your team? When I watched him, knowing that we had Tremont Williams, knowing that we had Nick Collins, knowing that we had Charles Woodson, knowing that we had Al Harris, knowing that we had Clayman. He was always a step ahead of the defense.

And I'm sitting over there watching like, my goodness, like, it don't look crazy, but this is crazy. You know, like, he's going, he's putting. the ball and calling the play to where he knows exactly, defense ain't going to be here. Defense ain't going to be there. And I'm like, he's on the sideline watching him just go up and down the field. And I'm like, he's a step ahead of these dudes on every play. Crazy.

I've talked to defensive players about that. And Peyton and Tom were the first that would kind of smile at you. They'd kind of look you down. And you could yell a bunch of stuff and it just didn't matter. By the way, did you ever talk to like a Woodson and a great defensive player about Tom? No, I didn't talk to him about Tom, but I talked to Charles about Peyton. Because we were about to play the Colts. And I'm like, Wood, how y'all going to slow these boys down?

You know what I mean? Reggie Wayne, Marvin here. I'm like, how are you going to slow him down? And he was like, we're not going to be able to stop him. But he said the way to slow him down is we're going to get up in their face and we are going to press them. And we're going to mess up the timing. The rhythm. the rhythm that Peyton Manning plays with.

And they got out there because as I was listening to Woodtalk, I'm like, this dude is crazy. I know how good he is, but this dude crazy. And they went out there, man, and they shut the coach down, pressing the receivers, getting up in their face. So, you know, it's a chess match, but I truly believe if you are going to slow them down any type way,

you've got to have guys that's going to be able to get up in their face and press them across the board, though, not just one dude. No, and also, it really matters to do guard-center guard pressure. Brady always was great with that. Oh, yeah, yeah. He'll step up in the pocket. If you could pressure Tom on his feet. That's why he had trouble with the Giants teams,

because they had four across that could get pressure with you, with four men, and they can, you know, come up the gut on you, and it's tough to step up in the pocket, and we know Tom now mobile and running for no yards. Great stories. Love having you on James Jones. Appreciate you. Thanks, buddy.

Jemak with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Can I ask him a quick question, about the Super Bowl and how you defend? So we've seen Mahomes. on the script dominate in these playoffs.

If you're Wilts, do you throw a curveball, something maybe you haven't done this season, just so they can't get that early lead and then ride that defense to glory. Because let's be real, that's what they did against the Ravens. Yeah, and there's nothing that he's gonna throw up Patrick Mahomes that's gonna, that Patrick Mohan has not seen.

So, you know, this game is gonna come down to really, you know, can they really get up in the face of these Kansas City Chiefs receivers and place a man to man coverage and get them off script? Because we've seen them against the Ravens. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens, one of the best teams in football. But Patty Mahomes looked like Tom Brady because he was a step ahead of that defense,

the whole entire game, quick game, and then he finished the game with checking into a play, throwing it down the field to NVS. But the whole time, as I'm watching the game, I'm like, Patrick Mahomes is a step ahead of the defense. No, there's no question. No question. What he's really done, he's taking great talent. His pivot for Mahomes now is suppressing, like saying, okay, remember, first few years, people threw two deeps at him.

He's like, I'm going to throw into that. He's really mature. Now you get all the upside. Aaron did this in his prime. You got the upside and Aaron never made a bad throw. Because you felt everybody falls in love with their arm. And not only did. If you didn't throw it like Aaron and Mahomes, you're going to want to throw it. And not only that, I credit Andy Reid so much too because we talked about this

receiving court leading the league and drops. And Andy Reid said, you know what, it's hard to drop these five-yarders. It's harder to drop them, it's easy to drop them 30 yards. It's harder to drop these five-yarders. And just the game plan that they put together, ball out, ball out, ball out, ball out. It was fun to watch. Sounds like another guy who likes the chief sir, Coward.

Man, nobody likes the Niners. Nobody. Nobody. Maybe nobody's right. Maybe nobody's wrong. Excuse me. Yeah, let's start with Taylor Swift here, who's had a major impact on the NFL this season.

Swift, listen, she won her 13th and 14th Grammy Awards on Sunday, including a historic fourth album of the year award. Travis Kelsey was asked about his thoughts on her Grammy success. Here's what he had to say. She's unbelievable. She's rewriting the history books herself. I told her I'll have to hold up my end of the bargain and come home with some hardware too.

Taylor has an unbelievable fan base that follows her and supports her throughout her life. And it's been fun to kind of gather the Swifties in the Chief's Kingdom and open them up to the football world and the sports world. And it's been cool to just experience all that. You know what Taylor Swift's really great at? Beyond being musically gifted.

Everything? Well, a lot of people are musically gifted. a lot of artists are musically gifted, but they're a little, they're not very good business people, they're temperamental. She's like an accountant who's brilliant with her music. Like, she's so smart building her brand. There've been a lot of people that are flashes, great for a while, screw up their personal life, difficult to deal with, a lot of that music in the arts. Because, I mean, to be that brain, to be that sort of left-brainer, maybe you're not as dependable. She is like, does all the business stuff and branding stuff

better than a corporation would do it she does it better she's got the pulse of young people and she's a brilliant artist which is really rare and she's also as you said super smart so listen I'm not going to pretend to know all the details but she announced either after the Grammys or during it she's got a new album coming out

and of course my daughter and her friends are freaking out oh my gosh I got to find the details and it just so happens that it's leading up to the Super Bowl like the timing of Taylor Swift here I mean, perfect. She's smart. She's a genius. Shout out to her. Let's get to Rahim Morris, Colin, who was introduced yesterday as the Falcons head coach, returning to the team after three seasons as the Rams, D.C. One of the top priorities for Atlanta will be finding a franchise quarterback, not easy. Morris has already started to think about it. We've had very limited conversations about it right now. And the reason being we've got to formulate a great staff. We've collaborated more on building this staff and we're almost done.

Obviously you've got to look at some college tape. Sometimes you can see a little bit more free-tsey tape. Sometimes you can visualize that thing, how you can trade, right? But you got all those windows out there, you got all those avenues. But I got a lot of confidence in the people that are going to be able to help me be a part of finding out of next quarterback to move forward. Boy, he's got some McVeigh in it. I mean, he is, some of these guys, they get to the podium, they're really good. Like, Jamico Ryan's first time at the podium, you're like, whoa, remember Nick Seriani first time?

We were like, I remember the first time I saw McVeat the podium. It was like a 28 second clip. I was like, okay, that's a dude, that's command of the room. That's the thing on Rahim. He and McVeyer tight totally commands respect to the room. Players loved him. Staff listens. I remember, this is a thing, too.

Can you command the responsibility? respect and the admiration and the trust of alpha males who tend to be selfish, have egos, little narcissism, can you walk into the room? McVeigh is probably the best in the league and immediately capture their respect attention. What they say about Rahim is he has the ability to walk into a room, he talks, and people get really quiet. This is where it's tough. You know I love the team building aspect since we bought into some pro sports teams. do you think Morris has a better chance of staying a little longer

if they go free agent quarterback this offseason or drafting in the first round? Because this is a tough decision. If your GM drafts the wrong guy, it's on the GM. Why can't I do both? Go buy Kirk Cousins because I'm not paying anybody on offense and draft a quarterback.

With the first pick? Absolutely. I don't think, then concentrate on defense. Well, Kirk Cousin, okay, fine. You want to go after Kurt Cousins. He says, thanks, guys. I'm not interested. I'm either going to do Minnesota or somehow.

Do you go Justin Fields? No, then I go Baker Mayfield. He's probably staying in Tampa. Would you kick the tires on Russell Wilson? No, probably doesn't work for me. I'm not interested in Justin. I mean, no, I shouldn't say that. I think Rahim Morris does not want a quarterback that's an off-script quarterback.

I thought Justin in Atlanta would work with the offensive guy. Then they fired him. I think Rahim Morris is going to want somebody that comes in defensive coaches usually. I mean, one of the reasons they love C.J. Stroud is he's really accurate, mostly stays on script, accurately delivers the ball.

A lot of defensive coaches are reluctant for you to be ad-lib guy. Desmond Minter was an ad-lib guy. Yeah, I mean, so I, to me, I would go Cousins and Baker. I think you'd go to Cousins and say, listen, we're going to overpay a little bit for two years. Third-year team deal,

but we're not paying our receiver tight-end backs. we're not paying a lot of people on that team. So you would almost overpay for cousins? I'd overpay for two years, third year, try to get a deal. I don't think Kirk's all about money. He's made a fortune. Kirk's made a fortune, and he's a good guy.

Does he want to win? And by the way, Kirk's smart enough to know the more you pay me, the less players we can get. And then I would draft a quarterback as well. What about a buy low on Mac Jones? Any interest? I mean, you could probably get him for pennies on the dollar. I don't think it's terrible to get him back in the side.

South. You know, I played Alabama. Get him back down there. And give him a really small number for a year. You can give him a two-year deal and draft a quarterback. I don't think it's a bad thing to draft a quarterback. Get the third, fourth-fenth best quarterback, and let him sit for a year. Well, it's fourth or fifth, maybe sixth best. We don't know how many are going to go early. There's too many good players in this draft for all the quarterbacks to go. I'll just toss this guy out. We have two to three great left tackles, a great tight end, two great receivers, a great edge rusher. This is a great draft. It's not an average one. You can get them on the cheap. Any interest in Zach Wilson from the Jets? No.

Just had to ask. Final story. You went from winning quarterbacks to that? I had to ask. Roger Goodell announced yesterday. The Eagles will play host to the NFL's first regular season game in Brazil. During week one next season, Philly's opponent is still yet to be determined. But the Eagles will play on Friday following the season opener Thursday.

Oh, gosh, NFL, what a start next year. likely at the Corinthians Arena in Sao Paulo. So they get an extra two days. So they'll play on a Friday, don't have to play to the following Sunday or Monday, maybe more Monday. I was going to say I'd put them on Monday night football to give them like three days catch up. That's like a 15-hour flight, Philly to Brazil, isn't it? I don't know who's televising that game, but if Fox gets it, we got to go to Brazil, bro. No, Fox has a rule they instituted this year.

No bad games. We only had good games Hold on, it's the Eagles on Friday in Brazil We did a show from Brazil Come on. Again, if it's on Fox, it will be 31, 28 overtime. That was the new company rule, no bad games. Do you know what the weather like is like in Brazil?

I think it's mandatory that every female has to like walk around in a bathing suit beaches. It's an amazing place. Let's go! Come on. Philadelphia. Eagles in Brazil. Let's go? Let's make it happen. Let's not. And watch it on television. You got some cloud here. I have

I know. My cloud is not going. Yeah, you're okay. You young kids out here, you want to just go party like there's no tomorrow. I want to live it up. I'm a travel influencer. If you want, let me be. No, I know. Whatever that is. Jay Mack with the news.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'll say it. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from Bats, basketball to college football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with a little Kim?

Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed cracks.

I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On our week one, Friday night, the Brazil game. Sunday, Monday regular slate. By the way, that first weekend, Texas at Mets, Michigan is that Saturday. So Texas brings back a really, really good football team. Michigan loses J.J. McCarthy, the quarterback in like 17-18 pros, and they lose hardball. So I'll take Texas in that game. You know, J.J. McCarthy is fascinating.

So I don't know. I think Caleb Williams is going to be really, really good. I think Drake May is a really good prospect. After that, I don't know. I like Bo Nicks, I think more than J.J. McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy looks a little slight to me. Jaden Daniels looks a little slight. And I think to take the beating of the NFL, you know, I don't want my coach bigger than my quarterback.

I want my quarterback to be 225, 230, got some meat to him. But it is interesting. I was looking at Lance Zerlind's mock draft from yesterday. We talked about this yesterday. He's got Atlanta getting Drake May at 5. Interesting topic with Drake May. Drake May's prototype is Justin Herbert. but is it possible that not only does he play like Justin Herbert,

but his college history is like Justin Herbert. So Herbert played in a pretty simple offense. It wasn't a poorly coached team at Oregon, but a pretty simple offense. So he really, they didn't let him go until the Rolls Bowl in his pro career. Drake May plays for Mack Brown. His offenses are known as pretty simple offenses. Vince Young basically was the offense. That's when Mac Brown had his best offense.

That's when Mac Brown had his best offense when he had a great athlete. Drake May, like a Herbert, is running an offense that's pretty simple, doesn't ask a lot of them, make basic plays. I think Drake May, people forget, is only a sophomore. So he's only 21 years old. So I mean, all these other guys are juniors. They've been in college three or four years. So I think Drake May, it's weird that you would be the fifth pick. That, to me, would be underdrafted.

I don't think he's as consistently great as Caleb Williams. And I've said before, Caleb, to me, is one of those rare kids good enough to overcome garbage. If you get the wrong coach or something like Andrew Luck, he'll still win a bunch of games. I don't know if anybody else in this class is, but boy, Drake May, the Justin Herbert comp from all the scouts, which is kind of a quiet guy, big, big arm moves. I mean, he looks like Herbert when he throws. If you switch them and put him in a charger uniform, he looks like Herbert. Big tall kid that can really move power arm, but again, I mean, look at, he really holds the ball like Herbert. But again, Herbert, all these critics are like, where are the big throws?

Well, that wasn't his offense at Oregon until the Rose Bowl and they let him loose. Drake May similarly plays an offense where maybe he's just not being challenged enough. he is a really good player. Again, I only watched him a couple times. I watched him less, least of all the big quarterbacks this year. But when you watch him, it's like you don't have to watch much.

6.4.5, 6.5. Big arm moves well. The minute you watch him, you're like, oh, that's our first run NFL quarterback. It's not what you are. It's what you can be. Remember, Patrick Mahomes was just an arena league quarterback in college football. He was a losing record.

Shucking it. Yeah, losing record. Barely. People just. draft traits. Exactly. Yeah. Fans, I remember having an argument years ago about Danny Werfel, and I'm like,

he has bad traits. He doesn't move well. He's got a weak arm. He was at Florida. And I was getting into an argument with a Gator fan. He wanted to punch me in the forehead. And I said, guy, he's got terrible traits. He's winning.

Drake May's traits are 6-5, 220, moves well, big arm, throws on the run. Checks every box. Yeah, like his traits are second only to Caleb. I think McCarthy is the guy who's going to be polarizing, because everybody watched the bull. games and it's like, he's okay. He's not doing a lot. It's the defense.

Is McCarthy benefiting from Harbaugh? Probably. Yeah. So Michigan had 18 pros. McCarthy had the best teammates. Michael Pennix, I had somebody say this in the league. He has a great coach, great O.C, and three NFL receivers. What if he goes to a team with no NFL receivers?

His supporting cast at Washington offensively was stellar. They scored their way to the playoff. So people have said, now, That's not saying Bo Nix didn't have good players, but they didn't have Washington's receiving talent or they didn't have Washington's coach or offensive coordinator. So you can benefit that. J.J. McCarthy, my concern is, good God. Harbaugh, four NFL offensive linemen, starback. He didn't have to do.

I mean, they basically didn't throw the ball against Penn State on the road and won. We'll see how he measures up at the combine, but he, he's going to be bigger than Bo Nix. Bo Nix has way more starts. He's younger than Bo Nix. it's going to be tough for me not to say I would take McCarthy, just based on, as you said, traits. Do you know who Bo Nix's comp now is? Derek Gough.

Tony Romo. That's his comp. That's his comp. Now, I thought Burrow was a better Romo. You could argue he's a little less than Romo, but Bo Nix moves in person, way better than you think he's way more athletic. Dude is cut.

He is twitchy. He's an athlete. He's also, like, you know, three years older than anybody. he's going up against, you know? Well, it's not his fault. True. I've got gray hair. I look at it as a benefit.

All that wisdom in that gray hair. Silver Fox. We'll see tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs, Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast.

From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the... 80s.

84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.