The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Gruden, Jackson, NFL

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

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hold of them, put him out there. And it was just, like I said, he was a volcano and it was hate lava flowing for seven years. Wasn't that long ago, by the way, either. Some of those emails were 2018, I think, Joy. So just hate and saying awful things about often very powerful people and then minorities, women, gay Americans, it was just awful. And John Gruden is out. I do not believe he was a victim of canceled culture. I think John canceled himself. Kishon Johnson, by the way, who I know casually, Kishon Johnson on another network this morning who had played with Gruden, couldn't stand him, called him a fraud and a used car salesman. He took over for Tony Dungey in Tampa.

I only met John once or twice in person. I thought he was a very good broadcaster. Better broadcaster than a coach, actually. I had had my misgivings about him. But I would say this. In the television business, he was kind of dynamic and I thought good. But the only two experiences I know is I used to work in Tampa. And when John got let go, I had a lot of friends in the Tampa media, and they couldn't stand him.

They just said he was difficult and toxic. I then got a text last night from somebody I hadn't heard from a long time who was a general counsel on a company that had to deal with Gruden. And he said it's tip of the iceberg, really hateful, a bully. Then it's a very small world. Somebody I know intimately from years ago in my life married somebody that worked for the Raiders and refused to work with Gruden and resigned. So stuff starts to come out. You know, you see this all the time when you have an ugly situation. The drip, drip, drip, drips starts to come out. I didn't have much of a relationship. I'd met John one time. He was funny when I was with him. Big personality.

But he's got his distractors and he'll never work in the NFL or college again. It's just, it's over. You know, go play golf and do whatever rich guys do. Levar Arrington was a great player. He was a pro bowler for half the years in the NFL. He's now part of the new morning show. Levar, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox at Fox Sports Radio. Good for him. He's always wanted to do this, and now he gets to wake up at three in the morning. Lovar Arrington, and he loves it, by the way. I don't know if I can tolerate three in the morning, but Lavaar Arrington's joining us live now. I'll just ask you, I don't know John personally that well.

I know of him. I know people that know him, but a lot of people reached out to me this morning and said, you know, not a good person, toxic, blah, blah, blah. Did you have any big, you know, wrap a bone at your thoughts on John? You knew him, new people that knew him? you know what colin after all of this hit my first intuition was to stop take a step back because a lot of times the knee-jerk reactions to to hearing things and reading things can sometimes take you to the wrong conclusions or put you on the wrong path to get your conclusions so the first thing i i did colin was think about the words that he said, the words that he used, and all of this, this, this very, very strong and inappropriate tone and words that are being used, I came to the conclusion that he was

comfortable and confident in delivering what it is that he was feeling. Yeah. So, so my conclusion isn't, oh, is John Gruden a bad person? Who do I know that knows John Gruton? And what can I learn more about John Gruton? And what can I learn more about John. Gruton. This says to me, this is all above surface. His language, who he's delivering it to. What lies beneath? What lies beneath? Because to me, that is where I'm at right now. It's easy to say what we say now. All these years later, somebody found it legit to put these emails out during the investigation or post-investigation. of the team in Washington. And this information somehow,

some way gets out around the same exact time that the Morris Smith is seeking votes or needing votes to be able to continue to be the head of the NFLPA. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but these emails were written as far back as nine years. You mentioned as close to 2018, and now they come out on, what, Friday? But even if they did just come out, they're still written.

Like even if they even if right. Right. Not not justifying what what was written. Just curious as to how big the ice is underneath right. The surface of what we're seeing with John Groo. Yeah. That's what I'm interested. Like you mentioned earlier, the NFL and what they're trying to do and what they represent in a family environment and a family friendly, you know, show that they're putting on. but who's underneath the surface? What are those responses, those pictures that were shown, that comfort and being able to deliver the way that John Grouton delivered. See, me, I'm not stuck on doing what's being done to John. As you mentioned, he did that to himself. I'm interested in, does it stop here, and he becomes a scapegoat?

This saves a whole lot of people, or does it? this opened up the conversation to a larger conversation, knowing that that man was, and I was thinking, why would he write such dumb stuff in email form? But you got to believe that technology is so advanced. Now, you could actually pull up an email and write as if you're texting. It sounded like he was texting to emails. He was sending text and text form to emails. So this is, you're talking about people who are comfortable and how they communicate. And so far, I'm only hearing one name. I'm only hearing about one side of things that are being said. Let's hear about what the responses were. Let's see who those are connected to. And let's see how deep this rabbit hole goes. Because I don't

think there's dirt at the bottom of this rabbit hole. I think it goes all the way to wonder, Colin. Well, yeah, what you're saying basically is if Gruden was saying this for seven years, then he felt comfortable doing it for seven years, and the people that were getting it weren't calling him out and saying, get lost. Is that what you're saying, basically? This is one of the biggest figures in our media, one of the biggest figures in football at one point in time.

They bring them back out of the media booth to boost and support a team that had been searching for an identity. This is a major figure in sports. And these are the conversations that he's having that have now surfaced. And he can say whatever he wants to say, I don't have a racist bone in my body. That's not, I've proven through my 50-some years

that I am not that guy. Okay, you're delusional and you're disconnected. And if you're delusional and you're disconnected and you've gone this long without it becoming common knowledge to the public, then how many people, because you've been put, you've been boosted. You've been a person that has been in front of the camera, major production, major situations.

You don't even hear that network being mentioned in all these things. You don't see that network's letters pop up when they're showing John Gruden, right? So there's a disconnect here. And my whole thing is people that are empowered, that are exposed, and now you know you've got to pay attention to who empowered those people. See, to me, I want to know, is this going to start? stop here or do we get to know? Greatest, greatest reality television show, Colin, right? Can't write this.

If somebody told you to write this up, draw this up, they wouldn't be able to think it up this way. I want to see what the next pages of this story, what they reveal. And I hope it comes out. Well, yeah, for the record, this came via an investigation into the Washington football team, which has been a mess. but, you know, owners have a lot of power. It should be mentioned that Donald Sterling was told to hit the road in the NBA.

Many believe Daniel Snyder should face the same conclusion in the NFL. So to your point, this all stems, this all comes, the Gruden stuff from an investigation with 635,000 emails. So we know there's bad stuff out there. That's not even the question. The question is who else and how much gets out. I want to ask you this, so I do want to ask this, because the other story of the day is Lamar Jackson. and I said, I don't mind being wrong. What I don't like is people that are stubborn.

And I thought Lamar was too skinny. He ran too much and I didn't like the way he threw the ball. And then after about a year, I'm like, he's no longer that skinny. The ball lands in the right place. I have no problem admitting. I said Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, there's a lot of potential bust here. Well, I'm wrong on that. Those are the two best quarterbacks out of that class.

Are you surprised at all at Lamar's growth? Forget the MVP now. like his ability from behind, his ability to throw the ball. Like it tells me that he's putting incredible time into this sport when I don't see him. Forget the TV games. Like the offseason, the practice, that's what it tells me. You can't get here from there without putting in so much time that I don't see. That's my conclusion on it.

What is yours? I mean, I think the conclusion is pretty consistent, right? It's, you know, my father said, if you take, one step in front of another, it might not look like you're traveling far, but you stay focused on what your task and what your goal is. And before you know it, if you turn around, you realize how far you came from the origin of your journey. Right. So to me, this is just a simple case of Lamar Jackson put one foot in front of the other and in front of the other and moving forward. And as we continue to look at the evolution of Lamar Jackson in his game, he is someone that takes

pride. You mentioned he loves what he does. He loves playing the game of football. He loves his teammates. He loves everything about what he does. And you can feel that. I've never met the young man a day in my life. And I can feel his love and his passion for the game. I shared it when I played. I loved this game. I loved everything about it. And the fact that he's willing to put in the work and it probably doesn't even really feel like it's work to him. But the fact that he's willing to work so hard and be so dedicated to, to his craft, I think it's wonderful that it shows. I think that he shows a brilliance. We saw a brilliance from him that we don't use that word enough for what we see and our athletes and what he was able to do being down 19 points and had help. You know, Callais

helped out. The offensive line helped out. Freeman got in the game. Helped out. A lot of help there. but the awareness, the control, the understanding, the poise, the composure, I was blown away by him looking even more different than what I've seen him look in the past. He took a big step forward last night. By the way, you know what's unfair in life is that you look great in that hat, and I would look ridiculous. Oh, thank you. I would look ridiculous.

I would literally look like a forest ranger who had lost his way and was in a studio. I don't know. You look pretty good. You're kind of a smooth dude, Colin. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to hold you, bro. You pull off that smooth dude like frat boy look. You know what I mean?

Like, I got to be careful. I don't want to get in trouble for calling you a frat boy or anything like that. But I will say this, you're a good looking dude. You know what I mean? Y'all are a good looking set, you know, one of the best looking sets in all of regular television. You know what I mean? Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, Lavar, Arington, Fox Sports Radio. Good seeing you, my man.

Thanks for doing this for us. Hey, appreciate you having me on. You bet. Congrats on your success. It's two pros in a cup of Joe in the morning. Fox Sports Radio. He has to get up at 3 in the morning. Well, actually, it's up at 1.30, which I couldn't do.

It's not capable of it. I got up at 3.20 in the morning for two years. In Miami? Right over there. For undisputed? What time do you go to bed? Nine. So you get 6.15.

That's if I could do that. So you got up at 3.20 and then you drove here. Get here at 4. be done at nine. Did you nap when you got home? Yeah, you take a nap. Take a nap for like two hours. Get back up.

Start the day over. I don't know. That's tough. It made me very disciplined. It was a person. You start to get into a routine for work. Well, you have to, yeah. Because otherwise your life is in a total state of chaos.

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Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, well, we talked a lot about the NFL's brand and what they're looking to do and what they represent and, you know, the ratings being up. And they're continuing to expand their international reach. The league has announced three cities in Germany that could host a game as soon as the 2022 season. Three cities are Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, and Munich. I like games in Europe.

I'm very reluctant to move a franchise there. I think that makes it. It's a little difficult. It's a little difficult. I think it's unfair. Now, if we were to put a franchise in another country, Canada makes a lot of sense. I also think Mexico makes a lot of sense. So do I.

Mostly because there are neighboring countries. And the time zone. Yes, time zones, neighboring countries. We already have games played in Mexico. all the time. Like Toronto could have an NFL team. We have MLB, hockey,

and a basketball franchise in Canada. So there is obviously that relationship within the league, within the other major leagues already established. So those things make sense. Now I know they want to, you know, expand overseas,

but, you know, having games there makes a lot of sense. And they have these incredible facilities. Oh, gorgeous. These are major. They're 48,000, 55,000,

mayor munich's arena 75,000 people. So they can fit and they certainly would fill those stadiums. I like the picture we had earlier. Our staff put this up there. Germany's got, Germany's known for its engineering and its cars, its watches, and its architecture. I mean, look at that. It looks like, that is like a big time looking stadium. Yeah, that's in Dusseldorf. That is 54,600 capacity. It was also hosted Vladimir Klitschko's fights and, you know, obviously they have football matches there. Football, yes. F-U-T football.

Now, earlier this year, the league said that they were committing to enhancing its international market by all 32 franchises playing internationally at least once every eight years from 2022 onwards. So they are going to expand internationally. Here's my thing. So you send

an East Coast team over there, right? Yeah. How about you punish Washington and make them lose a home game? I mean, seriously. You can't punish Buffalo because they've been well wrong. They want to get all the teams over there. That's kind of the effort. So, so like.

It's a lot of Jacksonville. To brand. Well, yeah, well, they're due to play the NFL's 30th game in London since 2007. Jacksonville is facing the dolphins. Sunday, dolphins are currently favored by three and a half, according to Fox Betts. So that should tell you exactly where the dolphins are right now. So Russell Wilson underwent surgery on his injured right middle finger Friday. We saw what happens.

He went up against Aaron. Donald's forearm. Yeah, it was girls. Yeah, it was rough. Well, he was rehabbing in Seattle yesterday and helping Gino Smith on the practice field and Pete Carroll said that Russ is doing everything he can do to stay engaged. 30 minutes on the practice field, he was great. You know, he was there. I mean, he did great with he knows, you know, his job is to help Gino and get him ready. If he can figure out a way how he can compete at that, he's doing it. And so he's already, you know, starting to listen to the game plan. he's figuring out where it fits and how it's going to go. He's going to prepare just like he was playing.

His plan is to stay as sharp as fresh as he possibly can't. Well, they say six to eight weeks, is that the timeline? Yes, six to eight weeks. Between four and eight weeks. Okay, that's different. Yeah, because if it's four and eight weeks, pro athletes, he'll be back in three. It's like Joe Burrell was like he may miss September. He was ready by August.

Russell's a very durable player. He never misses games. He prepared two injuries, the mallet finger, and a fracture just looks. of a joint. So it's four to eight weeks. Carol said IR is an option, but he wouldn't commit to that. So it is going to be Gino Smith temporarily. Had you ever heard of mallet finger? I hadn't, but apparently it's a very common sports injury. So you can't move. Again, not a doctor. So if what I'm saying is not correct, I don't know. But what I heard is that you can't move the joint. So you can't bend the finger, which obviously is probably necessary to play the quarterback position. and grab the ball. Yes. Slick glasses, by the way, Pete. I even walked off a movie set. Pete's good looking for a 70-year-old guy. Very flashy. Well, they play the Steelers,

Saints, and Jags in their next three games. So, they're currently four and a half point underdogs to Pittsburgh on Sunday night, according to Foxxbout. Gino had a nice drive. Well, yeah, and let's be fair about Gino. Gino's not great. But Gino's been a franchise quarterback. Yes. So, and Gino, again, his thing was turnovers. Big. can move a little, has a nice arm. I remember when he was with a Jets, I would say, there are days you would watch Gino and you're like,

oh, he's good enough. And I'll say this, they could win that game. Seattle could go there with Gino and win that game if their defense was better. If Gino can manage the offense, they'll be fine. It's the defense I have the question. So you're going to ask Gino to throw 35 times. Then I don't like it. But if you ask Gino 27 times, manage the game.

Run the ball. Seattle's problem is they can only win by shootout. Yeah. Because they're so bad. And you need Russell Wilson to do that. Yeah. So after staying away for two weeks to start the NBA preseason, Ben Simmons reported to the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia last night, which was a surprise to the organization.

Sixers near the tip with the Nets and Simmons came in, got the COVID test, and is in the process of returning to the franchise. He's expected to meet with leadership starting today at the team's facility, and then they will figure out what the conversation is, moving forward. There is a conversation about how much money would be returned to Simmons if he integrates and returns to the rest of the season, but it's not clear if he is just coming back to kind of report and move the trade talks along or if he's actually rejoining the team.

He has four years, $147 million left on his contract, and this is really an ongoing situation. But it is obviously a big deal that he is at least back with the organization. He's not staying away. Money might have a little bit small factor to do with that. When you talk about things in the abstract and then you actually start seeing coming out of your account, you might start to move a little differently. But I also think it's better for Ben Simmons if he does truly want to be traded to be with the team. Staying away from the team is not helping things, in my opinion, with Ben Simmons. It's better to be there.

If you're a team who's interested in trading for him, I would prefer if I'm a GM that he's actually there with the team than just holding out. Right. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. He's by Carmen.

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Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed cracks.

I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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alarm. Now, they're limited, but it's an eight and nine win season. First of all, they've outed scored and outgain their opponents. They were missing four their offensive line starters against the Texans. Mack Jones is completing 71% of his throws. That's the highest ever for a rookie since the merger in 1970. They're limited, but they're okay.

They lost to Tampa. That's okay. You're losing to Tampa. Their offensive line will get better. They're going to win eight or nine games. They just have a low ceiling. Washington. Fire alarm or false alarm? A little bit of a false alarm. Their offensive line's actually playing great. They've only allowed six sacks,

Only the Bills and Rams have a better offensive line. The other thing is they're in second place in their division. The Giants are all beat up. And Philadelphia, we don't know. And they end the season with five games against division opponents. So they still control everything. And Taylor Heineke is not consistent. But he's a gamer.

You can win games with him. You go in eight, nine games with him. Vikings. Fire alarm, false alarm. That feels more fire alarm to me. They can't separate from anybody. The schedule's getting worse. Cowboys, Ravens, Chargers coming up.

They have one rushing touchdown. I mean, they shrink in big games. They can't separate from teams like Detroit. They're in trouble. The Chiefs, fire alarm or false alarm? It's a false alarm. It was Mahalm's worst game as an NFL quarterback. Patrick Mahomes is not going to play that poorly.

The weather is going to be better. They also have the best third down conversion rate in the National Football League. Also, their schedule was tough. They had to play the Browns, the Ravens, the Chargers, and the Bills. So it's going to lighten up here. There'll be a couple Raider games. It's going to be okay for Kansas City. The Eagles, fire alarm, false alarm.

I'll support him here. A little of false alarm. The defense is playing well. The offensive line, Jalen Hertz has had five different offensive lines in nine starts. So they can't get, once again, their offensive lines all beat up. The other thing is he's not turning the ball over. So far in all his starts this year, 10 touchdowns total three interceptions. So he's not an artistic thrower as he learns the pocket.

He's running around, kind of finding his way. But they're kind of in games. And they've shown an ability last week to come from behind on the road and win games. I like that. Seahawks, fire alarm, false alarm. A little bit of a fire alarm. A little bit of a fire alarm. The defense is awful.

That means you can only win by shootout. And now it's Gino Smith, who hasn't started really since like 2017. if they had a defense that was middle of the pack, they could go to Pittsburgh and win. But right now, they can't stop anybody. So you're asking a backup to go on the road and have to win a shootout and a backup who doesn't play much. I think it's a fire alarm.

49ers, fire alarm, false alarm. Back and forth on this, a little bit of a fire alarm. Trey Lance isn't ready. Garoppolo can't stay healthy. And since Kyle Shanahan took over, they have the worst turnover differential in the league. The division's very good. They're running out of time.

Their secondary has issues. They're physical and well-coached enough to be competitive in games. But to win close games, I need more efficiency and productivity at quarterback, and I just can't trust that I'm going to get it. Dolphins. Oh, it's a fire alarm. Good news. You're close to water. Worst point differential.

They don't have a starting quarterback in the building. they're in a four-game losing streak. They don't run the ball particularly well. They've got some offensive line issues. And as we've talked about, it's very difficult in professional football to have a great defense for multiple years. If you have a great quarterback, chiefs are going to be good on offense for a decade. Buffalo is going to be good on offense, Baltimore. Defense, rules don't help you.

Great defensive players. People overpay for them. Miami, good defense last year. Nothing this year. The Jets. Fire alarm. Outscored by 62. points in the first half. What does that mean? Rookie quarterback's always behind having to throw more.

And so far, Zach Wilson has been exactly what I thought he would be. Talented and a turnover machine that plays almost showing off has the worst passerating of any qualified quarterback for the pass rating in the league. Too many big plays. And in fairness, his offensive line is better than what Sam Darnold dealt with. Like I just saw the other day, Vera Tucker, Ostevere Tucker, the Guard was the highest-rated offensive linemen in the NFL this week. So some of this is on Zach Wilson, not just his own line and lack of weapons. Texans, fire alarm, false alarm. Well, fire alarm because they just, you know, it's, what are you going to do?

I mean, it's the schedule now. They've got the Cardinals coming up in the Rams. You're going to be in shootouts. They're in a total rebuild. They've been outgained by 560 yards, 550 yards. They don't have the pieces. And I'm not sure they have the right system and coach. Colts. Fire alarm, false alarm. A lot of easy games coming up.

All four losses against teams that made the playoffs last year. So let's contextualize it. They're losing the good teams. The other thing about the Colts is Carson Wentz has actually played like last night. Good enough to win. They're concerned you can get by with mostly in the AFC South. They're not great at key positions. Receiver, left tackle corner. They're not. But in that division, you don't have to be great at much and you can win the division. because Houston and the Jags are in a total rebuild. So I think they'll win.

I think they'll go on a three or four game win streak. They beat Miami last week. They'll win some games. The Giants, fire alarm or false alarm? False alarm. I still think they're well-coached. They fell apart against Dallas. Dallas is better than we thought.

That was a loss on the road, an avalanche of injuries. I still think they're well-coached. I still think they were missing six of their 11 offensive starters at one point during the cowboy game. Dallas is better than we think. It went downhill fast. Do we have, we know Walker Bueller's throwing for the Dodgers tonight. Do we know if Daniel Jones is starting for the Giants this week?

Because he wobbled off the field. That'll be interesting. Because the aesthetics were not good on that. He was like wobbling off the field. Yeah. Weather looking nasty, don't change your plans. Change your wiper blades. Michelin wipers, snow, ice, rain, wind, whatever.

Michelin wiper blades are available always at Walmart. All right. That was good stuff today. And John Gruden is out. And Lamar Jackson's amazing. We're lucky. We cover Dodger's seasons in the balance tonight.

And I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to speak for anybody else at Fox. But the Red Sox advancing is not terrible for our network. The Red Sox have a massive, at least regional, somewhat national fan base with a lot of history and drama. So the Red Sox have moved on. The Yankees are out. The Red Sox are in.

Both the Giants and Dodgers have at least regional fan bases, so it doesn't really necessarily matter. Atlanta's got a big regional southern fan base. So check out the baseball. Thanks. No SFY today. It's baseball. It's the herd.

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