The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - James Jones

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com, or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox SportsPortes. Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. James Jones, decade in the league, Super Bowl champ, led the Packers his last year in

touchdowns, receiving yards. Even on the way out of town, you were delivering. You know, it's funny we were talking about this during the break. The advantage to having an old team, experience, you don't have to install anything. It's these

guys know how to win. Situation. They're usually great. You don't have, you know, these guys on third down, fourth down, goal line. The downside is guys start looking at that clock and start going, I want to make sure I get one more deal. No doubt. San Francisco. Yeah. There's a lot of noise in the season.

Man. Now go to your oldest Packer team. Yeah. You look at the world a little differently? You do? Because I remember when we were real young, Greg Jenny's not up for no contract, myself not up for no contract, Jordy Nelson not up for no contract, you're Michael. Finley.

We all just sitting here like, man, we just got drafted. We playing football. We care about none of this. That's the current Packer team. Yeah, are we supposed to be winning? Should we be winning? We don't know. We're just out here playing.

So, you know, it's just a different type energy. As you get up there in years, you're like, okay, man, that Super Bowl clock ticking, too. You know what I mean? Hey, I got to keep my body fresh. I don't want to practice as much as I used to practice. You had a lot of stuff. Yeah. One more in your, they discard you.

There's a lot of stuff goes on when you got a veteran football team. On top of, I'm only going to play. one, two, three more years maybe, I need to try to make as much money as I possibly can. So now money starts to become first over this Super Bowls and winning. That's it. Kittle, Trent, Christian. This is an old team, by the way, Fred Warner's got a lot, Bosa. So I think the downside to San Francisco, and I said, I love their roster.

Yeah. But this is what happens to old teams. No doubt about it. And especially old teams that don't have a trophy yet. Yeah. That adds a little dimension to, okay, we're not sure we're getting a trophy. I'm at least getting out of the sport with the money. Yep.

And that's why this is a difficult situation, not only for the Niners, but for Trent. I don't have no more guaranteed money after this year. I want to make sure I'm good financially, guaranteed money, injuries or anything happens. And the Niners don't even sniff or get back to a Super Bowl without Trent Williams on that offensive. No question. So Brandon, I, Yook, I understand you're holding out and all that. but Brandon Iook should be calling Trent Williams right now saying, you couldn't have did this after I got my money?

Because now this pushes me back. Because I can't get Brandon Ayuk money, and then now I'm trying to figure out scratch and call how to give Trent money. Trent has to get his money first because we're not the football team that we want to be or can be without Trent. Their winning percentage drops precipitously when Trent doesn't play. And it's crazy because a lot of people think like the San Francisco 49ers' offensive line is good. No, Trent is good.

Well, Trent is great. It overcomes a lot of that stuff, but they don't have a dominant offensive line. You have a really young quarterback who depends on Trent. That's why when he's not in there, it's a lot more pressure. It's hard to get the ball out of your hands. It's difficult. So, Big 7-1, he has to be out there, figure out the money, figure out the guarantee, and then hopefully they can work something out with Iyuk.

I said this. When you work at a big company and you have a big position, it could be, you know, it could be Exxon. It could be a meta. It could be Apple. If you have a big position and make a small mistake, I mean, the president could make a small mistake. A president gets beat up. If you work for a small company, the Tampa Bay Rays or the Jaguars,

you can make a huge mistake. Nobody cares. So I made this argument that the two biggest brands in the NFL currently are the Cowboys and the Packers. And Mike's the only guy in the league that's coached both. So when he has a bad fourth down call, man, he gets killed for it. Every time. So go look at Mike McCarthy. You could say he's never won the big game.

Oh yeah, he did. Yes, he did. Has 11 playoff wins. That's what Parcells has. He has a top 10 offense, top five offense 10 times, a number one offense four times. Farve was old and grumpy and ad-libbing, one with him. Aaron was gifted. but at the end got prickly, one with him,

and Dax Good, not special, and he led the NFL on offense. So my take is, with McCarthy, had he coached the Jaguars and the Texans and had the same record, we'd consider him a magician, a wizard. He had a statue in front of the stadium. But the Packers, we watch their games.

The Cowboys, we watch their games. So when you butcher a fourth down call, which, by the way, this was the knock on Andy Reefell. forever. Yeah. We didn't love his situational football. Then he got Mahomes and nobody cares.

So I said, if you look at the records, our staff put this together, if you take out Brady and Mahomes and anybody who coach them, this and now, McCarthy's playoff records are 11 and 11. It is in line with the all-time greats, except Belichick and Andy because they have the do best quarterbacks ever. And my argument is, Mike is a bit of a victim of making small mistakes with huge brands. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that is spot on, man, because I'm out here every single day fighting for my life for Coach Mike McCarthy. When I hear people say certain coaches is better than Coach Mike McCarthy, I'm like, are you kidding me? And these are the numbers right here that show it. Don Shula's supposed to be the best coach ever. All these dudes got streets and statues and all that named after him, and Tomlin will have one too.

but it's just crazy that I don't like the disrespect that coach Mike gets you come into an organization with the Green Bay Packers who were terrible when you got the job I want to say full and 12 when you got the job whatever it may be you come in there with Brett Farv

you go your first season average you go to the NFC championship and you're 13 and 3 then you go on to win a bunch of games go to the Super Bowl win the Super Bowl back to NFC championship games 15 and one season Then you go to the Dallas Cowboys

and in three years you go 12, 12, 12, something that has never been done. Four and one with Cooper Rush. Four and one with Cooper Rush in the history of the Dallas Cowboys. And I understand, man, listen, whoever comes to the Dallas Cowboys, they have this target on their back

because you ain't been to the NFC championship in 30 years. Well, Coach Mike only been there three years and he's had you with an opportunity in the playoffs to have a chance to compete. He ain't been there 30 years. He can't erase that 30 years. But in three years, he has 12, 12, 12, back to back to back in the postseason, division titles.

And we sit here and talk about Mike like he's not a good coach. For certain situational calls, it's crazy to me. It really is crazy to me. They need to put more respect on Coach Mike's name. It really is remarkable. If you're watching on television, we put up all these coaches and just take out Andy and Bill. Don Shula was considered the best coach in his era and had Dan Marino. which is record 19 and 17.

So it's just take a deal. And that's the thing too, though. Like you need a really good quarterback to win at a high level in this league. You do, especially if you're talking about Super Bowls. We talk about Andy Reed as one of the greatest coaches ever now because he's winning Super Bowls. But he has arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. When he was with the Philadelphia Eagles, he had really good quarterbacks in Donovan McNabb. I worked at another network.

I spent years. defending Andy Reid in Philadelphia. I'm like, this is the most clever coach in the league. I got nothing but pushback. I'm like, he's getting them to the NFC championship with B-minus quarterback, Clay. You understand it doesn't work that way in the league. And then he gets a really good quarterback, and it equals take you over the hump to the Super Bowl. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

You know a lot about Green Bay, and I was talking to somebody that covers the Packers the other day, and I said, for three years, we had more video on Bigfoot than Jordan Love. And then his first five games, he was kind of awful. And he had an eight-game heater last year. Why? Well, what do you think? What's the – I mean, like, if a wide receiver came into the league and had the drops, Cooper Cuff's first year had drops

And you could say That happens You still look But we all knew he was getting open A lot He was a great route runner Young receivers can struggle But you can go

That's gonna work No doubt Five weeks in I wasn't sure We were all scratching our heads I didn't think it was gonna work Your sources Your friends close to Jordan Love

What's flipped Well so the main thing was It was peanut butter jelly It was real real plain First five weeks Right You kept saying that. Yeah, let's try to get this young.

Let him loose. Yeah, let's try to get this young fellow, you know what I mean, acclimated to the game, the speed of the game, let's condense this plan, you know what I mean? And that wasn't helping him. Because when you condense a plan and you have a defense that's throwing all this stuff at you, a condensed plan on the offensive side is not going to help. Your first read is not going to be there. So now what are you going to do?

Coach the floor opened the playbook for Jordan Love. Okay, man, you've been under under air for a couple years now. You've been in my system for a couple years now. Why am I dumbing this thing down? You know the plays like the back of your hand. You've been in it. Yeah, you haven't had a lot of game experience, but you have ran these plays. And he opened the plan up.

And once he opened the plan up, then Jordan Love started to take off. And when Jordan Love started to take off, Jordan Love started to get more comfortable. And then Jordan Love started to play outside the X's and O's. And that's kind of, I contend he's more far than Aaron. No doubt. No doubt. He's, Aaron was very precise. Jordan's not always precise.

Farr wasn't always precise. By the way, Mahomes' early years wasn't precise. A lot of these guys are paint by numbers. Brady was a lot of that. That's okay. But a lot of these guys, it's like it would be like telling Kobe Bryant there's four plays you can run. You're taking an artist and saying,

you've got to say no spilling paint. Can't do that. You know what I mean? Like Randy Moss sometimes, I'm like, fella, get open. Yeah, can't do that. All with Randy Moss. Hey, I am open, even if it's three people. Throw it up over there and I'll make you right.

And I think that's what Jordan Love did, especially that eight game span. He let Coach the floor know, no matter what play you call, I got it, and I'm going to play outside the X's and O's. When you watch Jordan Love play, it's so many plays that you could touch on and you could be watching him play and you can say, oh, my goodness, this dude is going to be like that. And I think that playing outside the X's and O's, once he got comfortable and started to take off, that's what you've seen. and you started to see a young superstar emerged. Jordan Love is going to be a really good football player. But early in the season, it was really, really plain.

And you cannot do that. I understand you're trying to slow it down. But I don't know if people understand. When you're in training camp and you're putting in install one, right, for offense, it's like six, seven plays, really plain, right? The defense already got cover two, cover three, cover four, all that in. Right? So as an offense, we're coming out there.

We like always the first couple days of training camp, the offense looks terrible because we are really playing and you guys have a lot of stuff in already once we start catching up oh we ain't in install five now uh-huh we got these bunch formations and these motions and all that

and y'all got to talk and communicate and do all that then we start having extra days so you know with Jordan Love it started out really playing once Coach LaFour said okay eventually we got to see if this dude could really do it if he could really play if we're going to really give him this money

the playbook is yours this is what we're running this is the scheme for this week. Let's go. And the young fellas took off. So you've been in a lot of camps with Aaron Rogers. Older quarterbacks, Farr Rogers, it's different in camp. Let's be honest. At this point, nobody really wants to practice. I mean, it gets tedious. Where do you think Aaron's at, kind of in his mind, not to be a mind reader, but second year, often injury, hasn't played for a while, getting older, tedious with camp, got some new teammates, new old line. Is he in a good space. I love this Aaron. I love this Aaron. I had a chance to talk to him and he locked in now.

He's locked in. I mean, all the doubters. Everybody saying, he loved that. Everybody's saying he can't play no more. You know, he ain't been to this Super Bowls. He should have accomplished this, should have done that. Full plays in the Jets uniform. Just talking to him, man, you can tell that he is all the way locked in, that he has something to prove a chip on his shoulder and whenever I seen or talk to this Aaron Rogers, buckle up. Buckle up. It's going to be a year. I mean, my man wants to practice talking to him. He still loves the game. Every time I'm talking to to him, he's talking ball, he's talking football, he's talking playing, he talking about his guys at the Jets, how good the receivers is, especially Wilson. And he's just super excited. And I'm like,

you ready to go. He's ready to go prove some people wrong. And I like this type of Aaron, man. Yeah, Penn State rookie left tackle. If that dude can play, they're good at tackle. That's good for the quarterback. We talk about this all the time because when you're walking into training camp, obviously as a competitor, everybody thinks we went into Super Bowl. No. It's only a select few teams that can walk into this building and report and say, what up everybody? And look around that locker room and look left or right and say, oh, yeah, we got a chance. And the Jets is one of those teams.

There's only about eight to ten teams that really possibly has a chance to really possibly has a chance to really hosting that Lombardi trophy and getting to that game. The Jets are one of them teams. You look around that locker room on the defensive side of the ball, on the offensive side of the ball, the additions that they made. This team stays healthy. They're going to be a really good football team. So I always say there's eight max and three close.

So here's my Super Bowl bubble. My feeling is there's eight teams that can win it, and then there's three that need things to go their way. And the three teams, I think, are close, but need things to go their way are Houston, Cincinnati, Burroughs, and the Jets. I think the Jets so long they got a bunch of new face. You think you need stuff to go right? Boy, they're young.

So my teams that I think should be favored. I think the AFC is better at the top. Well, you've got the Rams inside that, so. Oh, I think they're, he thinks I'm crazy. I do too. You have the Rams inside that, sir. Now, I would put the Rams on the bubble, but I will put the Texans in there. I don't know how you stop the Texans.

I really don't. You got Tankdale who is going to be a baller. You already got a number one receiver in Diggs. You have a number one B in Nico Collins. You have a really good tight in. And then you bring Joe Mixing who can run and catch the ball out of the backfield on top of what you did on the defensive side of the ball. To be honest with everybody saying, can CJ take the next step?

If CJ's just the same, if he's just the same with this roster and what they have on offense and defense, they might be Baltimore. They might beat Baltimore in that game. If he's just the same, and we're not saying he's just going to be the same, he's going to get better. I really don't know how people stop Houston consistently. I'm not saying they're going undefeated. But I don't know how you stop them, boys.

They got too much over there. So I would put them in there, take the Rams out of there. You know what I'm saying? What's my Packers on there? Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. You are smart.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We should be in the circle. We should be where the Niners are, though, like right in the middle. So we could like. All right. James Jones, as always great stuff. Back in a second, wrap it up Herdline News.

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That CD Lamb has total leverage. Total leverage. I mean, T. Higgins can want a contract. Brandon and I.U. can want a contract, but they're fine. without him. One of the Cowboys without C.D. Lamb. They have no deep threat. Brandon Cooks is a three. Their tight ends of two.

Worst running back. I mean, it's C.D. Lamb, you should never get into this position as a football team. You have a guy that's got a year left in his contract. That's why teams are signing quarterbacks years early and edge rushers. Cowboys are trapped.

Well, he's also getting fined, right? If he doesn't show up. I got news for you. Take the fines when you're one and four and it blows the season up. This is not Brandon Ayuk. McCaffrey, Kettle, Debo, they draft two receivers. Go look at the Cowboys' draft. They didn't draft the receiver until the sixth.

That's a huge mistake. Jerry screwed this up again. No, I mean, they're drafted too long. You can't wait this long. No, they didn't attack the draft. They didn't draft a running back or a receiver with a top pick. And they need both desperately. It's like New England.

A couple years ago drafted three guards and two kickers. It's like if you looked at your running back and wide receiver room. So New England gets trapped. Right now Dallas is trapped. Signed C.D. Lamb or the season's toast. Look at those. I mean, outside of the two giant games, and I think it's a Saints game, maybe a Carolina game, they could lose 13 games. The schedule is tough.

They're favored in like 13 games. They're not losing 13. But I'm saying, if you take C.D. Lamb out, you can win one way. 1714. You're not scoring. and Dax's history, when he throws over 40, he wins about 35% of his games. So I'm telling you, there is no team in the league offensively that is more beholden to a singular non-quarterback than Dallas to C.D. Lamb.

They are trapped. Trapped. I mean, I like Amaran St. Brown a lot, but if he said, I'm not playing, they got Williams, good back, tall ball lane, Jared Gough, good O.C. You start looking at this game. No CD Lamb. You're not going to Cleveland and winning. You're not beating Baltimore.

I don't even think they're beating Cleveland with CD Lamb. Dallas is really in a bad spot with CD Lamb. He can get whatever he wants within reason. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. One other guy waiting to get paid is Tuatung of Iloa.

He's at training camp and did some drills yesterday, but he did not participate in, workouts today and Mike McDaniel addressed how the team is working through the disaster. I think it's important to acknowledge that two is in the midst of a contract negotiation. That's important to him and the football team. That being said, we communicate very well and it's very fluid. We're taking it day by day. Today I expect it to be kind of like OTAs and we'll

move on from there. That's weird. That would be like, you know, my contract's up next to you. That'd be like me holding out and you having to face every, face the audience, be like, yeah, J-Max's going through a contract thing. I'm supporting him. I know. But yeah, that would be tough for you. A lot of noise. I'm not noisy, but you know, you got to show me the money at some point. A couple guys yesterday were talking about, T. Higgins said I just came back because I wanted to stop the noise. T. Higgins, I thought was smart. Like a lot of this stuff, the noisiest teams, You go about the last seven, eight years. The noisiest teams don't win.

It does matter. Because you can be a noisy baseball team, but baseball is a regional sport. College football is a regional sport. The national news isn't talking usually about your baseball hockey college football team. The NFL's a national sport. So a holdout is on my show. Stephen A. Smith. PTI.

It's on all the shows. So it's a national sport. So a holdout in any other sport is like, ah, the regional local guys will beat you up for it. San Francisco. this IU team's been a national story for two months. I mean, listen, Tua will impact gambling, fantasy football. Football fans in this country have a lot riding on these guys actually playing. Now, if they're all holding out and not playing, it's not great, right?

I mean, you can't, Miami is, they're trash without Tua. Like, they're like a five-win team. Yeah. Next up, let's go to the Niners, who were on the doorstep of the Super Bowl last season, fell just short in that overtime loss to the Chiefs. Now the team's gearing up for 2024. Brock Purdy says they're hungry to finally get that Super Bowl W. We've all just been there, dude.

Like we've tasted it. Obviously the Super Bowl, it's a couple plays away from literally being Super Bowl champions the year before that. NFC championship the year before that NFC. So like we have guys in this locker room that taste it and they won it. I did the same thing. I walked in and like how these guys are going to, you know, like seem or feel? And you can feel it, man. They're hungry for it and we're ready to do it for this organization and the fan base.

Did you dig into that literature I dropped in your dressing room yesterday? Did you look at it? Tonight's the night. I saw a stat in there about the 49ers having one of the worst rest advantages in recent NFL history. Jets have that as well. The downside to having a star quarterback, you're playing on short weeks on TV. A lot of prime time games. So San Francisco, the Jets in Kansas City have very punitive schedules.

And by the way, I would say for San Francisco, They're an older team. So older teams tend to need more rest. Some guys. The thing about the NFL is they really, it's just a well-run business. Once you get really, really good, you get expensive. So it makes your roster's thinner. And once you get really good, they put you in uncomfortable TV positions so you get less rest.

So the star quarterbacks, you think, oh, once you get the star quarterback, go look at the jet schedule, short rest, travel, travel. television inconvenience. Peyton Manning hated those television games because he's a creature of habit. Kurt Cousins loves like the 1 p.m. window. He's amazing. A lot of guys are creatures to have. Peyton Manning and Kirk Cousins hate this inconvenience of long

half times and short weeks. So my takeaway is San Francisco, Jets, and Kansas City. Those schedules are tougher than you think. Final story is Jordan Love reported to training camp. But Still, he's also waiting for a new deal. He's taking part in meetings, but will not participate in practice until the deal is done.

GM Brian Gutikunz knows the urgency of the situation. He said it's important to get love out there as soon as they can be to get him ready for the season. This one almost feels like it hurts more than the dolphins because it was so much momentum last year for the Packers, second half of the season and in the playoffs. And now you're like, I mean, you got them in your Super Bowl bubble. Now you've got this, what's going on with Jordan Love? At what point do you get nervous? If we're like, if this isn't done by the end of next week, are you like, damn, we got a problem?

No, because I think, first of all, he's very connected to his young teammates. He's also on and in the facility. So he's watching film. You're just not practicing. He doesn't want to get hurt. I don't worry about it. This isn't like an old quarterback. Like when Aaron Rogers, if he held out, you got a bunch of new teammates, a new O-line.

So Green Bay is the youngest team in the league. The O-line, the offense is just a bunch of kids, and he's a kid. So I think he's sort of, you know, and he played very well with him last year, and that'll carry over. I don't worry about it. There's no disconnect. I think older quarterback sometimes are less willing to, you know, connect with young people. I guarantee he's texting and hanging out at night. film rooms with all these young guys.

I don't worry about Green Bay much. I mean, it's a really, really cohesive young offense. It's just my only concern is, you know, young players and young quarterbacks with their young receivers need timing, so I want the reps. But I, you know, I never really worry about Green Bay offensively. They just kind of know what they're, when's the last time? Think about this. They never dropped offensive alignment in the first round. Name the last bad Packer O-line.

I'm serious. named Aaron's last year, and it was getting long on the tooth, and it was the third-rated offensive line. It's one of those things. There's two things in the NFL that are crazy. The Steelers draft wide receivers better than anybody in my life. I don't know who's drafted receivers for Pittsburgh. They do it better than any.

They miss rarely. And Green Bay never has a bad old line, and they never draft them in the first round. They find these tackles in the second, third. fourth round, interior lineman. It's, so I just, they just, and they, you know, they always have offensive coaches. Holgren, McCarthy, LaFleur, I just don't worry about their offense. J. Mack, with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Line News. Hold on. The Packers did, oh, they did draft. What did they draft this year? Oh, you're right. They got the Arizona.

tackle. You're right. My bad. Good call on that. Packers finally went with an offensive lineman. Jordan Morgan from Arizona. Good player. Know a kid that plays for Arizona. Good, good player. So they broke their tradition. They went first round and

good catch. Guys in the back. By the way, Jerry Jones talking today. So he gets in that little minivan, that Winnebago. He drives out here. I'm sure he doesn't fly or anything. He probably drives, stays at a motel six on the way somewhere in El Paso. Here's Jerry Jones today on C.D. Lambs holdout. I'm aware of it, you, but you must give me that, that I'm aware that we want to get these guys to camp.

Business as usual, as far as I'm concerned. I'm used to this. I can live with this. And I feel confident if you look at the fundamentals here, we can get back to the shot we or hold that will be in better shape. So that's January. Okay, this is July. No, I don't get been out of shape

over the fact that somebody is not here or here at all. Yeah, feels different this time, though. Am I overstating it? Look at their depth chart offensively. Like, they just don't have... In the NFL, don't you have to get some easy touchdowns? Don't you have to get a few easy touchdowns? stuff over the top.

You've got to have yards after the catch. I mean, that's what the Niners have with, like, Debo and McCaffrey, or what the Bengals had when they had Joe Mixen, Higgins, Jamar Chase. You can't diagram plays perfectly. You need some running backs that break tackles. Well, they got that tight end Jake Ferguson, who's pretty darn good. He had a good. PFF has him as the 10th best tight end last year.

Nice player. Good blocker. Rico Dowdell at running back. Does he excite you? No. He doesn't get you to a TV. Most of these teams. that end up

playoff teams. They have game breakers, playmakers. You can't diagram perfectly. You need special players. They have one. Whole roster offensively. One. Don't like it. CD's got the leverage. Lean in, young man.

You rarely get it. We'll see you tomorrow. Live in L.A., it's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an

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I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the Fourth. You might have seen the skits. my basketball and college football journey or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,

follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. On the Look Back at a podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app,

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