The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Jets, Albert Breer

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Colin discusses what options Aaron Rodgers has if he leaves the Jets, gives his thoughts on the Jets head coaching search, Robert Kraft fires Jerod Mayo after just one season, and more.  Guest: Albert BreerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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heard podcast. Here we go. It's our three. We got all sorts of things shaking out live in Los Angeles. It's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Matt Hasselbeck was money. We went through every single game. We've got the coaching openings right now. J. Mack doesn't know what to make of my Ben Johnson to the Jets. But my takeaway is you got your running back, quarterback three-year, left tackle, two receivers. Let's get the offense right. You're in a division with Josh Allen. got to score points. You can't have to win every time you face the bill's 1714. You got to be able to score some points. I think Aaron played very well in the last couple of months. Let's

get him some help, a smart, creative, offensive guy. They need to draft a tight end. By the way, the Jets have like the seventh or eighth pick, something around there right now. I would move down. I would get, I would get a tight end. Tyler Warren, Penn State? Yep. I would him. I would go get a tight end, and then I think your offense is good. Well, we need a quarterback. But there is NFL media is reporting that Ben Johnson will interview for the Patriots and Bears during their by week. So during his by week, he's talking to the Patriots and the Bears, not the Jets. Interesting that he views the Patriots job as better than the Jets. Well, you get Robert Kraft who doesn't want to fire people.

So I get solid ownership, a bit frugal, according to people. I mean, he just won and done to Jerry May. Well, I also have a franchise quarterback, and we can't get worse. So the thing I like about the Patriots job is, you know, the expectations are save us. It's almost like a blank slate. Yeah, like just save us. It can't get worse. So that means you're going to get two years.

And if you can go from three wins to seven, people are like you're a savior. If you go seven wins to ten, it's like you get a lifetime past all the country clubs in town. So, I mean, there is something to be said about when Sean Payton took the Broncos over. Sure, he's been successful. But the bar was so low off net half. that it was like anything was an upgrade. So the Lions have now clinched the number one seed in the NFC that beat the Vikings last light, and there's absolutely no denying that Dan Campbell has been the perfect fit as the head coach

and for the city of Detroit. A team with 12 defensive players alone on the IR could have only pulled through this and clinched the number one seed with a head coach who's unappointed. apologetically alpha, a motivator that preaches grit and biting kneecaps. Sometimes the NFL messaging from coaches can seem a little cringy or cheesy, not to the players. There is a brotherhood and a masculinity that I'll be honest, I like. People have been paralyzed playing this sport. Sometimes you just have to play through pain.

You got to play hurt. And one guy in a locker room second guessing the message, can unravel the whole thing. In a way, it's like the anti-NBA league. You have to be selfless and you have to play hurt every week. The Lions clinched a playoff spot on December 5th. With all those injuries to seemingly the entire defensive roster, they're going to pack it in.

Let's get healthy. And nope, not with this team, not with this coach. They fought tooth and nail. Last week, everybody said that Niner game didn't mean anything. I totally disagreed. It was a chance to get backups, reps against Sam Darnold and the Vikings. The Detroit Lions are a symbol of so many things that are great about the NFL. Every game matters.

Grit and toughness, which our society can always use, is really paramount. And again, unapologetically alpha. I mean, New England had the number one pick going into the weekend. They play themselves out of it. There is no tanking. Nobody will even consider it. And it's why the NFL remains king and separates from the rest of our professional sports. Dan Campbell on a weekly basis, after winning, is almost in tears, preaching the message and his devotion to the city of Detroit and the Lions.

This coach for this team in this time and this roster and this wacky season with currently 12 players on the IR defensively. needed a completely unapologetic alpha, and the message to guys like me at the kneecaps at the podium, and I'm rolling my eyes, the players aren't. They totally bought into it. The number one C, this is the Chicago Cubs in shoulder pads. That's what it feels like. The easiest dominant team. And go back to September, October, early November.

It was like college. They were rolling people. But it is the easiest, most dominant physical team to root for, I can. And remember, and here's the one guy, the one perfect fit after the win. Look like you remember who the fucking. That's a hell of the win, guys. All I can think about is, man, we've been forcing this stuff now. This has been three years into making, some of it, four.

But that just doesn't happen. You've got to work through it and grind through it and go through the downs to get to the ups of where we're at. That was unbelievable, man. Division, winners, back-to-back seasons, and the number one season. If you're not from Detroit, you may not get it. You think it's a little cheesy. Oh, give me a break. But if you're from Detroit, you're a Lions fan, you're part of the culture,

and you watch teams around this league. If you think this stuff's over the top, the bears need that. The Titans need that. The Jaguars need that. The Chargers needed it and hired it. This is not a marketing campaign. This is completely, absolutely, authentically, Dan Campbell, the perfect fit for this city and this team. All right, let's talk Sam Darnold.

Oh, I know. Let me guess. You're all bailing on Sammy. Okay. So first of all, that was the biggest game in Detroit in probably 50 years. And there's an argument that the two best coordinators in the entire league both play for Detroit. Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn. And Detroit's got a better roster.

And they got one of their defensive starters back. And this is a baby step league. And Sam Darnold looked juiced. He looked a little overwhelmed. He probably couldn't hear. He was inaccurate and high on all his passes. But across the field, Jared Golf's first big playoff game, and this did feel like a playoff game.

I mean, it was the biggest game in Detroit in five decades. It felt like a playoff game. Mike Choriko was coming out of his suit. Jared Goff's first playoff game at home, 78-passer rating. Peyton Manning's first playoff game completed 45% of his throws. This has always been kind of a Baby Steps League. Last year at this time, Sam Darnold, who was viewed as a bust, was starting a meaningless game as a backup for the 49ers.

And then there's yesterday. In the biggest game against arguably the best roster, in the loudest field, you weren't winning that game. Minnesota was not winning that game. That's just one of those games. I looked at the playoffs this weekend. I looked at Denver at Buffalo. I love Sean Payton.

That is a tough draw. There are games a handful every year where even a good team goes on the road, and you're like, yeah, yeah, they're not going to win that game. That's a standalone game. This was the only NFL game that everybody was watching. Sam Darnel is just 27 years old. Now they go to Los Angeles. Their receiving core is a great matchup against the Rams' young,

secondary. Don't be shocked if the Rams draft a cornerback with their number one pick. They don't have a corner. They don't have a shutdown corner. And this is the deepest receiving core in the league. And it'll be 50% Viking fans. And my gut feeling is Minnesota is the play here. J. Mack disagrees. But it

felt like a playoff game to me. It had that kind of feel. It was one of those, you know, you don't get, the NFL is always entertaining. But there are a handful of games late in the season. And you're like, you know, when the NFL schedules like Burrow and Mahomes in week 17 and you're like, oh, that feels, I'll give you an example.

The Steelers Bengals on Saturday night felt like a playoff game. And that's a Saturday playoff game before a playoff game. And there's a reason restaurants have soft opens, right? Like you're not quite ready for the moment. I just don't think Sam and the Vikings, this young fun team, we're ready for the moment. And here's the coach after. You know, we didn't do a lot of the things that we've consistently done, you know, all season long. And this game came down to, you know,

finishing in the red zone, weighty downs, third downs, you know, pitching and catching, and we've got to find different ways to help guys get open. And when there are guys to potentially, you know, throw and catch, we've got to be able to do that. We've done it at a very high level this year and just didn't really show up on the weighty downs. Yep. Sam Darnold twice was high on Justin Jefferson throws. Absolutely, no question about it. You see this sometimes first big games for quarterbacks. They look tight.

I mean, that was the knock on Peyton Manning for years in the NFL, that he was a teeth clencher, that he was great and productive. He'd get into big games, and he was too tight, and I thought Sam looked tight. But again, this was a guy that was a bust a year ago, that was starting for the Niners in Week 18 a year ago, to the biggest game in Detroit in 50 years. It wasn't going to be his night.

I said last week, I like the Lions. They have the better roster. It's a bigger game. It means more. I know it's two 14-win teams playing for number one seat. It just felt like it felt like Detroit's night. That's what it felt like to me. So Sam Darnold goes to Los Angeles for his first playoff game.

So from bust to starting the Niners to great year overwhelmed. Let's just look at notable first playoff starts. Peyton Manning scuffed, pass-er-reading at 62. Josh Allen, pretty rough. No touchdowns, no picks. 52% completion. And Lamar Jackson, I remember that one. completed less than 50% of his throw.

So I think you're going to get a pretty good opening official playoff outing for Sam Darnold. I thought that game was a dry run last night. That had playoff vibes, playoff intensity, dry run. But those first playoff starts, they're different. And that game last night, it just felt different. Albert Breers around the corner, we have a lot of, movement going on in the coaching stuff, are the Raiders going to keep their coach?

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What do you hear? Yeah, he isn't interviewing there. And I think Ben Johnson is going to be picky about where he does interview. I think it's significant that he's decided to take the interviews, at least for now, with the Bears and Patriots. Look, the Jets search is going to be wide-ranging. I think there's specific things that they're going to be looking for in their next head coach. You see offensive coaches, defensive coaches on the list.

You've already seen general manager candidates go through there. They're going to be more. They want somebody with some level of experience, and they want somebody who can handle the market, and handle everything that comes along with coaching that coaching and leading that franchise and maybe even embraces it. And I think that's one reason why Rex Ryan would be attractive is because I do think he'd embrace the idea of coaching there, of being in New York, of all of that stuff. So, you know, I'd expect them to continue to wade through that coaching candidates,

the GM candidates, pick one person, whether it's a coach or a GM, and then build out around that person. Okay, Bears. I am reluctant to give somebody a job that's never been a head coach it's a political job um i mean i pete carroll and brian flores erin glenn i i like a tough taskmaster and intense guy what say you on that one yeah there's definitely a recognition that they need more than one person to fix it and that this isn't like a guy who's going to come in and just develop the quarterback and that's it it's going to have to be a whole lot more than that um because they haven't won a playoff game in 14 years years. And I think if they look in the mirror, that's what what they'll find is, is that there are

issues there that go deeper than just one coach or how just one player is developed. So, you know, I think what we'll be looking at here is, is first the leader of men box has to be checked. And that's why I've been attractive to them. And I think both those guys will interview there. But, you know, as they've seen over the last six weeks, in how Caleb has kind of been up and down and all around. If they do bring in a guy who's a leader of men who works on the defensive side, that person is going to have to come in with a very clear, concise plan for the quarterback and not just for the next year or two, but going forward if you lose an offensive coach,

how do you replace them all that stuff? So, you know, again, I think leadership's going to be really important there. Ben Johnson, again, is going to take an interview there. He's going to have to give them a leadership plan where some other coaches might have to detail a quarterback plan. And then I think part of it's going to be how that person fits into their structure with the decision to keep Ryan Poles there. There are a lot of questions about Kevin Warren, the team president's involvement in all of this. And that's a big reason why the McCaskies have chosen to have Ryan Poles, not Kevin Warren.

We're on point on the search. But clearly, whoever it is coming in, they want that person to fit into what they're already doing there. Okay, Gerard Mayo, I didn't love it. I said when he got hired, it's a different chapter in the same book. I thought it was a lot to ask. It's a bad roster. Vrable feels right. You know, he's got a relationship with craft.

They can be a bit frugal. The roster's not good. Mike has a real opinion on personnel. I think that helps. He knows it. You know, certain coaches are really good with it. Andy Reid doesn't really care about it. Sean Peyton wants to say, so does Harbaugh.

Vrable to the Patriots feels like a good fit, doesn't it? It certainly makes sense, but Vrable's going to have interest from a lot of places. Because I think when he walks in the door, he's a top. top 10 coach in the league. Now, you know, you have to sort through what he's going to do on the offensive side of the ball. Is that a Tommy Reese? Is that a Josh McDaniels? He's got his list of people. But there's no question that he checks a lot of boxes. And that's why there's interest in him across the NFL. The Raiders are one team he's been consistently connected to. The Cowboys, if they make a change, I would expect them to have an interest. The Bears have an interest.

The Jets have already interviewed him. So he's going to have options. And I don't think he's going to be sentimental about this. After what happened to him in Tennessee, my feeling is he's going to take a cold, hard look at what a team is going to present him. The Patriots do have some things to sell, though, the fourth overall pick, $120 million in cap space, a quarterback in Drake May, who a lot of coaches really, really like ownership with a track record of support and success. So, you know, I think that there's a lot to like about the Vrable Patriot marriage. I think the issue there, Colin, is they haven't been through a real coaching search in 25 years. Last year was

sort of open and shut. So I do I know that the Kraft family would like to take a look at what's out there, hear from a bunch of different people, get a better understanding of what's happening across the league with even if it does even if it does lead them back to Vrable,

sort of what the Chargers did last year in interviewing as many people as they did before they landed on Jim Harbaugh. Okay, let's talk players. Aaron Rogers, he played well in most of the last eight weeks. I know. I think he's got a market. Am I nuts? Yeah. I'm nuts.

No, I don't think you're nuts. You know, I would say this. Like, Aaron told me over the summer part of the reason he came back in 2024 was he didn't want to go out like that, right? Like, he didn't want to go out like in a heap on the turf at the Meadowlands with the Achilles injury. I'd argue that's a better way to go out than the way he'd be going out now. You know, so my guess is he's. He's still got some juice left and he still wants to play. He could come back like Brett Farv came back after what happened with his year with the Jets

and been playing in Minnesota and being an MVP candidate the next year. He comes back with that sort of motivation wherever it is. I think Roger still has it in him to be a successful player. Here's the other thing that I think affects all that. The draft class doesn't look great. I mean, Shadoura Sanders and Cam Ward, I think would clearly be behind the top three quarterbacks in last year's draft and maybe all six that went in the first round. There are going to be teams that are going to look at this year's draft class saying

there's not a, and some at least are going to say there's not a first rounder in there. So, you know, I think for certain teams, Aaron Rogers could be an effective bridge. Yeah. How would you look in Cleveland, Colin? How are you look in Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh's interesting. I think that there are some teams out there that would make some sense, don't you? Oh, yeah.

I think he's got, I mean, listen, if Vegas, Vegas played their way out of a good pick, and I don't think these quarterbacks are worth giving away draft capital to move up. I think there's guys like McCord at Syracuse or Riley Leonard who will be available in the second. And I think people will say, hey, we're going to send them for a year. They're not quite as explosive. I would not give up a lot of draft capital. I'll do it for Caleb. I'll do it for certain guys.

These quarterbacks, I would not. How about this? Colin, I would tell you right here right now, I think no question about it. the first three quarterbacks in last year's draft, right? Caleb Williams, Jade Daniel, strike May, would all without question be the number one. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. No, I think you're right. I like, well, let me stay with the Packers. Jordan Love, Christian Watson. The news is bad on Watson. What's the vibe going in to this team that now is suddenly banged up at key spots?

Well, this is sort of why they invested in Josh Jacobs, you know? Yeah. Like obviously down the stretch last year, Jordan Love was a little bit up and down and he can be streaky. Yes. And we've seen that. They really felt like in adding Josh Jacobs,

they would bring a real edge, a physicality, an attitude to their running game. And I would argue even when Love was out in September, go back and look at the numbers, when everyone in the building knew they were going to run it, they could still run it when Malik Willis was playing quarterback. back. So, you know, it sucks losing Christian Watson. There's no question about that. That said,

they do have some depth of the position in guys like Wix and Reed and Dobbs. And so there are there, there are guys there that Love's got a great rapport with. And I do think if they go through some more ups and downs because they lost Watson, they now have something to lean back on in that running game. So, you know, I really believe in like adding, you know, Josh Jacobs, even a guy like Tucker Crafts, who's a devastating blocker as a tight end. And they've sort of changed the face of that offense and believe that they're going to be able to go into the playoffs with an ability to play a little bit more consistently than they had last year.

Finally, I like that Brian Daybowl and Shane Steichen were retained. Day Bowl in particular, you know, he got a win late in the season that helped him. Was this a tough decision? Was it a go-either-way decision a week ago that Day Bowl is staying? Yeah, John Merrill wanted to hear the plan out. out. You know, I think he had some sympathy for the position they were in. They were put in a really tough spot with the Hard Knocks thing, too. I mean, make no mistake about it. Having the Sequant thing following you around all year, having the, you know, the Daniel Jones situation play out the way

that it did where the kid's confidence was killed, maybe in part by his future being aired out on national TV. There's been a lot of missteps in that organization over the last couple of years. but I think John Marrow really believed that what they did a couple years ago was not smoking mirrors. And there's a good core of young players there. If you look at it, and you and I have talked about this, right? Andrew Thomas, Kavon, Timito, Brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence, my defense player of the year this year. A guy like Malik Davis added to the receiver group,

I don't think it's crazy to think that if you can get quarterback right, and now it's not going to be easy. But if you can find a way to get quarterback right, this thing could turn pretty quickly. So there's going to be pressure on those guys to win, but I think this is an acknowledgement that when those guys came in, there was a long way to go. 2002 was way ahead of schedule.

The real rebuild took place the next two years, and let's see what happens next year. Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback. Great stuff as always. Thanks, man, on late notice. We appreciate you stepping in. Absolutely, Colin. Okay.

Yeah, I think, I've said this before. There are organizations. J. Mack rolls his eyes, but I think the Giants are close. I do. I think the Giants are close. I think they have a star weapon, a star... Close to what? Close to being a playoff team and pretty darn interesting. Did you see the Malik Neighbors interview that surfacing? They asked him about, hey, what do you think about Daibol and Joe Shane returning?

He's like, yeah, I'm really excited. I'm telling you, Neighbors is headed down that path of OBJ, Tyree Kil, like super talented, but like he's popping off in the locker room. I don't think the Giants are close to anything. They're not getting a quarterback in the draft. Well, there's just going to be, there's always a surprise quarterback. We should do that tomorrow as a topic. Well, I know yours.

I know, I know yours. I'm not going to get into it. I'm just saying, I need one because the Jalen Milrow Bowl performance is just, he's stacking awful, awful looks. I mean, that Oklahoma game, if you watch it, you're like, this is not an NFL quarterback. How about to, just going to throw this out there. Joe Milton. Oh, stop it. That's your guy from like August, remember? Do you see that heater he threw yesterday?

I think about the heat you took in August when you were hyping Joe Milton. I go out there as a positive force in American media, and I'm like, Joe Milton's got a rocket. Yesterday made one of the throws of the year. Very important game. Was it in warmups? He threw it out of the stadium or something? That's what he does. Like, he's got a big arm.

Trade bait. Maybe the Giants. Jay Mack with a news. This is the herd my news. All right. start with the Chicago Bears. We've talked about it a lot. This Pete Carroll, quote, badly wants the job, and he's already lining up top assistance if he's hired. I mean, I don't know. I'm always reluctant.

Guys who are kind of very vocal about, I want that job. And like publicly put in the well, Rex Ryan is doing that because I think, I don't like that. Is that okay to not like that? Well, it's just unseemly. It's like you're desperate. Well, Pete doesn't have a lot of years. left to be a viable candidate. It's just, it's just the age reality of how people view 70-year-old coaches. So he's probably thinking, hey, it's a weak year for candidates. There's going to be six openings, and I've fixed, if you go look at Pete's career with Drew Bledso, Russell Wilson, he has had young quarterbacks and has given them a run game and a defense and to help them win a lot of games. It just feels very presidential electione with like

75-year-old guys is the only option. Let's stay away from the age. I don't think age is a factor with Pete. I think he is young at heart and great energy. I think age is the biggest story for Pete Carroll of the Bears. I don't think it is. What do you think is the biggest? My knock on Pete has always been that he's a nice guy and he keeps average assistance and coordinators too long. That has always been my knock on him, that he'll keep that old line coach that isn't working for an extra year. The D.C. It's been my biggest knock on him.

Is that in college, he didn't have to worry about it because he, you know, he hits some home runs. But in the NFL, the coaching is better. Like in college, Pete was such a great recruiter. He was so much better of a coach than 90% of the guys he coached against. He didn't have to have the best staff. You get to the NFL. The margins are small.

If you have a bad coordinator, you get exposed. Let's be honest about the Lions. They have a great O.C. and a great D.C. Because look at Minnesota. Great D.C., great head coach. Kansas City, most of these great teams, I mean, Jesse Minter and Jim Harbaugh,

a huge component to the Charger's success is the coaching staff. Pete can be a little loyal to coaches that I think the game has passed them by. Just the whole idea of a retread. Can we stop using words like retread? It's my 601st birthday today. You're not a retread. You've dominated everywhere.

you've gone. Well, let's slow down on that, but I'm just saying that retread, it stings a little. I don't, I would just, I like outside the box. I like, you know, this Marcus Freeman guy. Obviously, Notre Dame re-upped him. Okay, fine, fine. Let's think in that vein, okay? How would Sark do going to Chicago, offensive guy? Okay? I want an offensive head coach because you talk about this every year. You don't want a defensive coach, because if the offensive coordinator is good in a year, he's gone. Well, but sometimes a defensive coach is the best available coach. I think Aaron Glenn is excellent and I think he flexed last night on TV.

Yeah, how did he do a week ago today against the Niners when the Niners had a meaningless game? Like eight yards per play. I don't... I don't know, man. I like Aaron Glenn. That Lions defense had a couple of nice picks in the second half. Made some adjustments at half.

Pretty good defense. You're very emotional with some of these reactions. Oh, Aaron Glenn, put him at the top of your list. He had a great game last night. I take this stuff serious. A lot of you guys are out there worrying about wide receiver moves. I'm into the coaching moves. I'm into the GM moves.

That's what I've been my whole career. I like that stuff. Well, it's weird. You're giving everybody on the Lions staff props, except the guy who hired all these dudes. The GM of the Lions is crushing it. Well, he's great. We know that.

Next up is Jamar Chase. Colin, listen, Bengals are not in the playoffs, but holy hell, this guy just became the sixth receiver in the Super Bowl area to register the Triple Crown leading the league in catches. with 127, yards over 1,700, and 17 touchdowns. The other guys, they're decent. Cooper Cup, Steve Smith, Sterling, Sharp, Jerry Rice, and Lance Allworth.

Of course, Chase is by far the youngest of any of those. And, oh, by the way, he is in a contract year. He enters the option year of his rookie deal. Why are we waiting here? You should have signed him two years ago. They should. Always sign early. There's about three receivers at any one time in the NFL, like Justin Jefferson.

Sign him, Mike Evans when he was young. Sign him, Jamar Chase. Get it done. Let's not wait on Jamar Chase. When you get the, and I, again, I'm not a fan of paying players early, but when you get these transformational forces, Burrow, like Justin Herbert, just pay him, Josh Allen, pay him. Always pay early.

How have they not seen Jerry Jones screw this up every year? The Dak Prescott is bungled because of Jerry. He waited too long. I'll give the Jags props. They paid Trevor Lawrence early. know some people are like, it's not good. That deal's going to look great because Lawrence isn't up for five years. No, it's, it's already. By next year, the deal looks actually pretty good. It looks amazing. So you've got to pay early, and I think the Bengals screwed this up. Like,

Chase has an argument. I want to be the highest paid receiver. I just got the triple crown. Like, you can't even push back against that. No. And he's, by the way, he is, he's a dog. He is better in the big games. Nobody wants. I mean, listen, if he tested the market and went to market, there'd be a bidding war for him. I like him much more than Tyreek Hill. He's a bigger target. I think he's a more consistent target. I think I can do stuff underneath with him. I mean, Tyreek Hill is terrific, but if you're telling me, there's two receivers in this league that are just different. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, are different, and that is no shot at the number three receiver in the league. Yeah. They're just different. Final story, Colin is just

emerging here in the last hour. Antonio Pierce and the Raiders looks like he's going to be staying. He just met the media and was asked about his future at a press conference. Here's Antonio Pierce of the Raiders. Do you have clarity on what happened next year about your job sentence? I haven't told anything different. Do you want to get that cleared up? It's only coming from the outside. It's not inside of building.

So to me, there's nothing to clean up until I hear it from inside of building. I'll defend him. I'll defend him. didn't have a quarterback, played their butt off. They were in every game, every single game. And they have a huge hole in a division with

Peyton, Harbaugh, Reed, Herbert Mahalms, Bo Nix. You can't have the fourth best quarterback by a long shot and be viable. They were in every, they were in, they play so hard. So, I would have kept him, Brian Daibol, Shane Steichen,

all those guys I'd keep. They're getting kept. It's funny, you mentioned quarterback. Some Raiders fans are, freaking out because Pierce came out and said, basically, I wish I had started AOC earlier instead of MNCHU, who was tough. But again, I'm just going to go back to this, Colin. A lot of these bad teams in December may have looked like, hey, there's something here. There's never anything there.

Okay, a lot of these December games don't mean much. Neither side is trying, and maybe that's why the Raiders stacked a couple wins late. I don't think those wins mean a damn thing. I don't think AOCs are starting quarterback in this league. Do you? Nope, back up. It doesn't move well enough. He's a backup.

Good backup. Yeah, you beat the heck out of the scenes two weeks ago. Nothing wrong with having a great backup. Now go get a starter. As if you act like that's easy. Well, let me just go grab a starter from the 99-cent store. Five guys out of the draft last year looked like they've all hit. And I haven't even seen J.J. McCarthy yet.

I'm telling you this draft, there's going to be a couple of guys in this draft. Quarterback class. They're going to get drafted in the second round, third round. It's going to pop. I love when, like, I know your takes. I know where you're going with this. You're going to ram at home to the audience every day because you feel like you're on to something here.

And you might be. I don't know about this, dude. I have not watched him as closely as you have. Just all I'm going to say is this. But I like the pivot. I like the pivot from Riley Leonard. They're like, oh, let me get a glimpse of Riley Leonard Thorne for 90 Woodhawks.

I still like Riley Leonard. I'm still a fan of Riley Leonard. I think he's going to start in this league. I have somebody else getting a lot of talk. Well, remember last year, I was early on JJ McCarthy. He had him top 10 in my mock draft for five. You did. I was mocked out online.

You deserve credit for that. You went hard. He hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL. Nobody had a good preseason. That does matter. They like him. I think it's Diana Rusini or a couple other reporters are saying, no, I'm sorry, NFL Network is saying,

Vikings are not trading JJ McCarthy. They came out and said one of the reporters said they're not dealing him. Well, I initiated those reports. You did? Yeah. Because I... We're starting some brush fires here, huh? I'm just telling you.

Seattle and Sammy D. Minnesota has no draft picks, a first and a couple of fives. They got to get draft picks. I got news. You want to know how to get draft picks in a weak quarterback class? J.J. McCarthy. Are you going to try to chase the Lions roster? Packers.

And you got one draft pick of no? They're not far off. They won 14 games. And it's not only because of Darnold. Now, they lose Flores and Darnold. I don't know. how many free... I've looked at their free ages, but like, yeah, things could fall apart, but the foundation is strong there.

And Kevin O'Connell is... Detroit wins this division going away with 12 guys on the IR on defense. So Detroit's healthy next year. The gap between Detroit and Minnesota is greater than you think. The gap between Detroit and Green Bay is greater than we think. Well, Green Bay's falling apart. They've been a letdown here late in season. Listen, all you Packer and Viking and Bear fans, Chicago at one point had 18 guys on the IR

and still won the division. I mean, what does that tell you? You go back to October when they were healthy. They were Alabama during Sabin's run. They were dropping 40 burgers on everybody. Wait, who's that? Who's that? Detroit.

They were crazy. I mean, this idea that the Packers and Vikings are close, this was the year to get them. They fell apart physically. Aidan Hutchison returns. This is the year to get them. The getting was good. Lions going to the Super Bowl?

Come on. Say it with your chest. I'd like to see it. I'd be happy if that happens. You saw the draws. Give me the early guesses at the two Super Bowl teams. Give me the draws again, guys. Put them up there.

The early... Your early guess as Super Bowl teams. Now, that's the draft order. Those guys aren't going to the Super Bowl. I can guarantee you that. They're going to the tournament. I would say... It's too hard.

I got to see round one. Not too hard for me. I can't figure the Vikings Rams game out. You love the Rams. Yeah, I'm going to be all over Philly as well. I'm going to go... By the way, the lions have 60 million... cap space next year. And you think the Vikings are going to be like, yeah, we have a first

round pick. And what if they lose Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn? That changes the calculation. It doesn't change the offensive line, the run game, Amaran, St. Brown, Jared Goff, that pretty, and 60 million in cap space. Eaglesbills. You guys are all thinking everybody's close to Detroit and Philly. I think those rosters are significantly better than the rest of the NFC. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. Third Line news. Matt Hasselbeck, push back on my keep your eye on the Chargers. I'm just saying, you know, the playoffs, you need a great coach, check, great quarterback, check,

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We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And...

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You know, I know everybody's saying that's the game. of the week. I don't love the vibe for Green Bay right now. Interesting. I'll have some really negative numbers for Jordan Love in this matchup. I know. I like Eagles. I like the Eagles, too. I think it's my favorite play. Oh, favorite. I think my favorite

play of the weekend is I like the Eagles at home and I think it's, I think they've got a couple of key guys rested. I don't like the matchup for the Packers at all and you know I've been a Packer fan this year. The guy, you know, the two favorites I like, I like the Eagles and I like the Ravens.

now I'm getting nervous about my charger. The only reason people like the Packers is because of what they did in the playoffs last year. Everybody's like, oh, remember that Cowboys game? Well, it's been a weird year. Like Jordan Love started hurt, and then he was healthy. And they won with Malik Willis, and then he's healthy, and then he was great. And then he was kind of, it went a little sideways. And I just kind of feel like they've become kind of a power run team, and I really liked him.

And now it's the end in Watson and lover hurt. It just doesn't feel like they've ever gotten their feet under him for like five, six straight weeks in a row. This Philly defense is really nasty. Really good. I like Baltimore and Philly. This is another rematch of a week one game. And again, I would just stress to people, don't read too much into the game in Brazil

over what, three, four months ago. Like, just don't do that with Tampa, Washington, and don't do that with Philly and Green Bay. You know, I think one of the reasons that we're a football nation, one of the reasons, why I think it's a game that speaks to a lot of people. People play hurt. It's once a week. You play in bad weather.

There's a lot of reasons it connects with people. Another reason I think the NFL is so popular, it's the League of Hope. So I've told you, if the Giants could get the quarterback right, I think they're like, you know, one or two players away from being a playoff team. Everybody looks at New England and thinks they stink. And I'm like, they have their starting quarterback, they have their backup quarterback, they need to get a left tackle, they need more weapons on the perimeter. I've been saying that for seven years.

But here's Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, having to fire Gerard Mayo. This whole situation is on me. I feel terrible for Girard because I put him in an untenable situation. What about it specifically did you find untenable and how will that influence how you approach this search? I don't like losing. I don't like losing the way we lost. and I just just things were not developing the way we would have liked

and it was time to move on yeah the but again this is the hopeful part they've got a starting quarterback and they have a backup quarterback and here's craft on that if you want to compete

long term and be good in this league you've got to have good drafts Because those rookie contracts allow you to go out and get the people you need to surround people. It looks like we locked out. We maybe have two quarterbacks. That's what I said about Joe Milton, old Mr. Cynical here. Joe Milton is a very capable backup, big athlete, big arm, and I think Dre makes your starter. So once, if you get the quarterback right in this league, everything falls.

into place. You can be the Colts and have everything going for you, be bad at quarterback, and it's mayhem and indie. I mean, you've got former teammates banging on them, you got the press banging on them, you got the fans banging on you, you got a quarterback that sits on the sidelines and doesn't want to go

back in. The Colts and the Seahawks are very good rosters, but they're not special at quarterback, so they're just a nothing burger. Meanwhile, I think New England, I get Kraft, I get Drake May, I get Milton a backup, I'm like, okay, I need a left tackle and some weapons.

We can win. I don't think you're that far off. I really don't. I think the New York Giants, you know, obviously Seattle has a very good roster. They're a quarterback away from being something special. But, you know, it's one of the things about this sport. There's a million reasons why the NFL is once a week, but it's always been once a week. The NFL's always had the scarcity advantage.

But I do think it speaks to people as we've got more tech and more distractions and more AI and a lot of changes. people like the predictability of one game a week, the same windows, and you're never, I mean, I mean, this is the only league that we talk about bad teams. I mean, the Jets, if the Jets were an NBA franchise, they'd be the Washington Wizards. We'd never bring them up. But because in the NFL, if you get a position or two right, I mean, New England, they would be the bottom of the NBA.

We would never bring them up. But they're kind of interesting if they get the quarterback right. So that's the big advantage to me. So Tennessee's got the number one pick. Obviously, they need a quarterback. I think that's my takeaway is do they go down one spot? Does somebody love one of the quarterbacks? So I could see them saying, like I can see Tennessee honestly saying we're going to trade down

and we think we want to go get a Riley Leonard in the second round. I mean, they have the number one pick in the second round, so just trade down. I don't think it's crazy. The Titans don't look like they're a player away. They look like they're six dudes away. Well, you're laughing at what? I just love, our dynamic is fun. I like when you say stuff like, I don't think it's crazy.

And in my head, I can hear, that's freaking crazy. You think it's crazy to trade out of the one? Yeah. Out of one? Yeah. The Titans need a quarterback, Colin. Period. Who's saying the guy in the second round is not better than the guy in the first round.

Oh, my gosh. I'm not going to say his name because this is your show. But that's your guy. You can ride with him. You got to take the best quarterback. Cam Ward's going to go one. I'll put that out right now. Go ahead.

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