The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Julian Edelman

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman stops by to talk about the drama surrounding Bill Belichick and his girlfriend Jordon Hudson plus getting inducted into the Patriots Hall of FameSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Now, J-MAC over here is like, you know, it's a little dicey. I'm like, hey, we're journalists. You've got to get on this stuff, yeah? Yeah.

All right, so listen. I defended Jordan. I even defend her real estate empire, which she's building. She's a go-getter. She's, you know, her mom and dad had a business that went bankrupt. Hey, I, you know, the fear, she's like, hey, I'm going to go get her. I get it. Like, I'm going to defend her.

I defend she's a tough PR. She's telling people, don't ask that question. and doesn't bother me at all. It is, there are people around Bill that are a little concerned. In Patriot Nation, if you're on a text chain, is just say, you don't have to give me names. Would it be concerned? Would it be he's okay? Because it's like a thing now.

Yeah, it is a thing. And the number one thing we used to talk about all the time in New England was distractions. let's not make distractions. The game's already as hard as it is to prepare for, to play, to coach. And, you know, regardless of what her role is, Jordan, yeah, I thought he got an unfair public opinion on the whole thing because that happens all the time.

Sure. Anytime we're doing behind the scenes, this, that, you got someone who represents you, they're going to jump in. But now that it's gained and it's snowballed, to the what it's become right now where we're talking about it three weeks later um it's becoming a distraction so that's what i'm sure that's what we all think right now this is becoming a distraction we got to we got to got to practice what we preach here yeah i mean

they're both benefiting from this her professionally him somewhat professionally so i don't like to be too judgy on this stuff i don't either um but you know once again I mean, we're talking about this three weeks later. It's on ABC. It's on this. It's on that. I mean, it's getting to a point where we got to start worrying about, you know, the ACC. We got to start worrying about Dabo Sweeney.

We shouldn't be talking about our girlfriend. And that's how coach would say to us. So, you know, that's the truth. You know, when it comes down to running a football organization and playing football, let's make the main thing the main thing. So you were with New England at a very interesting time. when they acquired Randy Moss, you were there for the last year and a few games. And I think Randy's better than George Pickens,

but I think both are spectacular talents that can be at times a bit moody, and can be, by the way, confrontational. That's not terrible, but receivers tend to be outspoken. They're the NBA dudes of football. They break the huddle first. They're out on an island. They're often the best athlete. So when a player like Randy, there was that sideline blow up against like Miami,

what is it due to what? Because Mike Tomlin just said, yeah, I'm done. Yeah. He kept A-B for several years. When there is a combative player and you got a little bit of Randy, Bill moved off it fast, right? Like did that happen overnight? Yeah, I mean, you know, there was that there was a confrontation with, you know,

on the sideline in Miami and he was traded the next week. And that was my first moment in the NFL where you're like, damn, everyone's expendable. Right. Randy Moss just got cut, you know, and Randy wasn't a problem like that. But what it was is we were in the gap of the dynasty, the old dynasty, and trying to develop the new team. And so there was a lot of young foundational players there that Bill probably didn't want that to be a same thing that, hey, this is all right.

So, you know, he traded Randy Moss. and everyone in the locker room, you know, straightened up right away. Okay, I was going to say, so when Randy left, you lose the talent, but you did feel immediately a sort of the temperature came down. Yeah, but, you know, this is also apples and oranges. You know, we had Tom Brady who had three Super Bowls. We got Bill. They don't know who their quarterback is.

We don't know who the quarterback is. You know, you had other play, you had a young Rob Grankowski and Aaron Hernandez who were there at that point. like the team was changing already. So it wouldn't, it wasn't like we just got jumped ship because he popped off. They clearly had a plan to go to that 12 personnel group and that's what we ended up doing for the next few years. So I don't know how this Pickings is going to deal is going to turn out because ultimately, I mean, Dax had weapons. what makes that good is when he has a run game. That's the truth.

And they didn't get a big time running back. I know they got a running back in the fifth, and they got the Williams kid out of Denver from last year. But that's a quarterback's best friend is a run game. They have Ferguson, who's a hell of a tight end. They got C.D. who's going to benefit hugely from Pickens if Pickens is down to play ball. And I think Dak's going to be able to handle all that.

But, you know, I think they need to address. rest the running back room. One of those guys got to come out of nowhere and play well. I'll never judge a draft pick linemen from the cowboys. They know how to do that. So I'm sure that pick will be all right. But the running back thing is what ultimately concerns me the most about them. So you, when Travis Hunter gets picked, we talk about how is he going to be in an

offensive and a defensive meeting. Actually, when you came out, did you do that at New England? Yeah, I did that in my third year. We were down at Star, so I started playing Star. We got to put this in context, though. Star is the nickel. I was the nickel. Let's put this in context.

I wasn't the best receiver on my team at that point in my career. I wasn't even sniffing the best corner on that team. So when I was going in, I was guarding the fifth to six best player and I was getting guarded by the fourth, the fifth best guy on defense. This is completely different. And I had two years of offense already in my system. I knew the offense. All right.

So on Thursdays, I would leave all the defensive meetings. I would be in defense Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And then on certain third down periods or third down days, which is usually Thursday, I'd hop into the offensive group and go over my installation for my four-wide group, my package for that third-down package. But everything else, I had to get accustomed to course. corner because I never played it before. Now, Travis is going to do this. He still has to develop into great one of these sides, you know, and that takes time, that takes film, that takes reps at

both, and that takes coaching at both. So it's going to be very tough, but I do think he can have packages, you know, so he goes and plays corner the whole time. Maybe you have them on a red zone package. You have six to eight plays that you know he's comfortable with, you know, the quarterback's comfortable with throwing it to him. And that's another thing. And that's another thing. And that's another thing. You know, is the quarterback going to be comfortable throwing to a guy if he's in the defensive meetings all day? He's not asking questions when you're installing the plays. How are they going to do that? They're going to put in more time. There's collecting bargaining agreement. You can't do that anymore. So, like, what are we going to do here?

The time is the hardest part about this, and it's the preparation for playing both sides. And then, you know, you're not playing Colorado state defense guys. You're playing the best guy in his conference in the NCAA when he played every single play. So it's going to beat you up a little. So it's going to be a tough situation to go through. If there's a guy that can do it, it's Travis Hunter. But I think that they're going to have to pick one side. I don't know what side that is, and then give them packages on the other. So I think the most improved team I predicted last year, it would be Washington. I got lucky on that. This year, I think it's New England. I think I think they bought about five starters and they drafted about three.

What did you see? I mean, usually there's a plan. You know Vrable. When you watch the draft free agency, what was the plan you saw? Well, clearly offense. First three picks. You go, Will Campbell with the fourth overall pick. That's a huge, huge piece for them.

They needed offensive line. They showed that they needed offense line. They went out and drafted a guy with the fourth pick that they liked. They didn't wait and try to do something cute, trade back, do this, do that. They got the guy they wanted. And then they get Hendrickson in the second round, Ohio State. I think him paired up with Josh McDaniels is going to be so big for the development of Drake May. All our Super Bowl teams, we had Shane who had 13 catches out of the backfield, who was great with protections.

We had James White, who had 15 catches in the Super Bowl, was great with protections. All I keep on hearing about this Hendrickson kid. Kids great with protections, great with the ball in his hands. Him, Josh McDaniels, that's going to be great for Drake May. And then the third round receiver, the Williams kid. Oh, no, no. Have you seen him play? Dude, he's a dog.

But I've asked all my guys. He's great. I keep on asking all my GM guys. I'm like, yo, what's this kid about? And they're like, dude, he's good. He will start. So, you know, I was very excited with what they did in the draft and in the offseason, and add in, you know, tackle with Moses on the, you know, veteran tackle to kind of help with that.

They got a center in the fourth, you know, with Williams on the defensive side. They handled a bunch of that in free agency. It seems like they're spending their money. They're adding the right positions. Now they've got to go out and prepare and execute it and do it. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

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True or not, Aaron would never admit to it, that Rodgers, Aaron Rogers is waiting for the TV schedule to come out. Aaron did not want to do another Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night, just like the NFL last year had Mahomes playing like everything but Tuesday. I can assure him the Pittsburgh Steelers will not be playing every. It's funny. Because Kirk Cousins' legendary didn't like it. Manning. Peyton didn't like it.

How was Brady knowing creature of habit that his schedule now, it's Sunday night again? How did you guys handle? You didn't play in the one o'clock window much? No, and you loved playing in those one o'clock windows. Yeah, everybody does. Everyone does because you get up, go game, you get to watch the four o'clock's on the way home. It's just an easier schedule, but that was one thing, you know, no one batted an eye with in New England, you know, what time we played, when we played. You like the one o'clock. Everyone likes the one o'clock, but I also like the night games. That's when everyone was watching you. That's when the show was all about you.

That's when you can go and show the world what you were about. So, you know, it's a double-edged sword. But, you know, this whole Aaron Rogers thing, the more I think about it, man, maybe he is really just that much smarter where he's probably going to land into, like, some team that gets a hurt quarterback that he really likes. You know what I mean? At first, I was so on the fence. Like, why wouldn't he sign somewhere?

You know, we saw his time in the Jets that he struggled with being on the same chemistry. page with his receivers, which is developed through organized team activities, many camps, offseason, and he need those practices. So why is he doing it again? And then, you know, hey, the draft, they didn't draft a quarterback. They should get rid of the other guy. Maybe he falls into something else he wants. I don't know. He's very unpredictable. I know you think he's predictable, though, right? No, I think Aaron thinks he's unpredictable, but Aaron wants to control things. He likes control, and he wants you to think, that you don't know anything.

He goes out of his way to say, Schefter doesn't know what he's doing, and Diana Rusini, he tries too hard. It's like when people say, I don't care if people like me. If you're trying too hard to say that, you really care that people like him. When you're trying too hard to say,

I, nobody know, I think he's fairly predictable, that he wants to, he's going to want two or three things. He didn't want pickings around. He probably wants Alan Lazard. And, you know,

he probably wants to make sure he's done on seven, you know, games at Sunday night and Thursday. night. For me, it's just, you know, if you're a quarterback, I would want as much time on task with the players as you could have, you know, just because it's going to be a, I know, he's probably Arthur Smith's their O.C. Yeah. He's a West Coast guy. He's going to know the terminology and stuff, but it's more of like learning the body mechanics of your guys, having them learn his cadence, which is an ultimate tool, but very hard to learn. Cadence is not

easy. Like, that takes this time to get used to. So, regardless of where he goes, I hope he goes quick, because it's fun to talk about him. I was thinking about this. Matt Stafford took $20 million less to stay with a ramp. Smart. Obviously. In New England, when you guys took less than your market value, did the team, you know, did they say, you know, Julian, we'll give you a better parking spot. Did there, was there ever any team guilt that, you know, Mr. Kraft knew that you could, you could have gone elsewhere. You had a market. You played for a little, sometimes a lot less. Did you ever get a little, they ever give you a pizza on Friday night for the fam? Or it's just like, hey, bro, you're part of the culture. Take pay cuts. I think we're just part of the culture.

Really? Just part of the culture. And you couldn't say anything because, you know. Tom was taking time. Tom was taking a cut. So no one could say anything. But, you know, with the Stafford situation, I completely understand taking less money. in this part of his career. It's a whole process, especially when you're comfortable somewhere. He's at this age. He's 37, 38, whatever he is.

You know, does he want to uproot his family? That probably loves it here. Does he want to go and learn a completely new offense? Does he want to learn a completely new roster of names? I mean, there's something comfortable about going to the janitor that you know for the last eight years and having a conversation with George. That's comfort, you know. And that's what I loved about New England.

When I drove in, I had the same lady waived to me for 12 years, and that made me feel at home. So at this point in his career, I can completely understand. He knows the coach that he's with, is a viable coach that can get, knows how to dial up plays. Sneed's going to get him players. They've shown that they can draft players. They're bringing in tools for them. I mean, this is a good spot. I mean, he's made a lot of money.

How much do you need? that's right how much do you need I mean how much to sour patch kids cost I mean it's your you know who cares I mean he's he's made a lot of money oh he's made like 400 large or something hey what um

Shedur Sanders little cocky falls in the draft gets humbled when you're a veteran and you walk into a locker room and there's a kid he's a draft pick oh yeah he's got a little little toude did guys like to humble him

I mean was that something that was discussed among veterans. You know, a lot of, we had Tim Tebow come into our camp. And I remember to play backup quarterback. And I remember the first day he came in, the media was just like through the roof. You know, this is like OTAs. And it's like a Super Bowl media. That didn't last very long. Didn't last very long. And it was a lot. But he was humble about it. He was a humble kid about it. And he was in the locker room cool about it. And I'm sure Chador is going to be a different guy when there's a guy who's been playing on that team for 10 years,

make a $30 million and say, hey, Rook, you know, hey, let's be seen, not heard. Like, that's the kind of stuff. Yeah, Miles Garrett has a way of influence. Hey, let's be seen. Let's not be heard, buddy. That's the kind of thing that the older guys used to say to us. Okay, it was announced this week. Finally, Julian, you were voted into the Patriots Hall of Fame,

which is incredible. and I saw the video with your father. Take me back to the first game. It was a four-year journey to really become, take me back first to the minute you made the team and the call with your dad. It was a weird situation because my first preseason game, West didn't play.

It was Tom's first game back from the ACL, so they wanted to get him some game reps. He wanted to get game reps. And so West didn't play. I caught a few balls from him. And that was a big thing. And I housed a punt, and I had a kickoff tackle to open the game. So I was making plays.

But then the next game, I sprained my foot, and I was out for the next three weeks. So I was up in the air. I didn't know if I was making the team. And Billy O'Brien's over here playing with me. Like, you know, Buffalo Week 1. Hopefully you're there for the instill. Like, you know, messing with me, but knew I was going to make the team. So I didn't really have that moment where like, hey, you made the team.

We went into week one. And in New England, there's still parts moving throughout the year. So I never really called my dad and told them, hey, dad, I made the team. I said, Dad, I'm still around right now. Okay, so I'll let you know if I call you the next time, it's probably because I'm coming home. But there was a moment at some point in you're in Tom's relationship where you could sense he trusted you. That's big for Tom. Yeah. When was that?

I would say probably that Buffalo, the week one Buffalo game in 2013 were, you know, Grunk blew out his back. We signed Amandola. He ripped out his adductor. And so, and Hernandez was gone by then.

So there was no one else to really throw to. And so he kind of had to. And then we balled out, we won that game, and that's when I felt like the trust was really coming. Now, I put in a whole lot of sweat equity with them years before that in the offseason, and there was a trust, but the trust didn't come until he saw it in like a real game. You know, and it had to be seen in practice for you even to get an opportunity in the game. So it wasn't like you just got it. You had to continually earn it.

and that's something he always said. He never said, hey, you don't just trust someone. You got to continue to earn the trust. And that's through the preparation. That's through the practice. That's through the reps. And it was very, very cool for me. And it was a blessed experience to get to go into an environment like that.

Because you become a product of your people. You had a market. You could have played again. Do you remember where you were when you just decided, I'm going to shoot that video at the 50-yard line. I'm retiring a Patriot. Yeah, I was in Austin, Texas. I was in Austin, Texas, and I recall my dad,

and I was, like, nervous to tell them, like, my knee wasn't really responding, and I just got an opinion that they wanted to potentially do, like, a micro fracture surgery. I'm 34 years old, three Super Bowls. I'm like, we're good. Microfracture is 12-month recovery, and that's just to potentially,

get the cartilage to calm down or something like that. And so I called my dad and it was, you know, it was, I need to have his validation that it was okay. And, you know, that was it. What's that mean to be a Hall of Famer? You know, for this organization, which could be argued the best organization over the last 20 years, no one will have that kind of success. being a kid that grew up around an organization like that in the San Francisco 49ers,

to be associated with some of the greats that are in the Hall of Fame, the Tom Brady's, the Ben Coates, the Kevin Falks, the Vrables. I mean, it's an absolute honor. And it's pretty cool because I can remember the first day, you know, getting there, just looking at my helmet, in my blue, locker because you had to earn your real locker. You didn't get real lockers that you had blue lockers in the middle for the rookies. And I just, I would stay there all night. I never had free Gatorade shakes. I was at Kent State. So I would stay there and use all the facilities. And I would

just look at my helmet and like, man, I'm on this team. That's crazy. What's the singular thing? The singular gift your dad gave you, the message that you will take forever. No sniveling. that's what he always says you know even if you come up short on something if something goes wrong there's no sniveling okay get to work

work your way out of stuff that's it you know through your preparation adjust adapt he's now he used to say or die now he's or and overcome

he's grown up a little but just a hardworking guy that a self-made man that you know the real respect is for people that wake up at like 5 a.m. and work till 5 a.m. Doing something they don't love. Right. But that they have to do for their loved ones.

That's like, that's what I've taken from him for 45 years. From what I can remember, you know what I mean? Congrats, buddy. Thank you. Thank you. It's awesome. Julian Edelman. We'll take a break. Heard line next.

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If they were the two-seed, got extinguished in game seven by Steph Curry. But they are the most interesting team this offseason because they can afford Janus. They've got the ammo. And they could afford Kevin Durant if they don't want to go the Janus route. Here's GM, Raphael Stone, talking about it. Ultimately, is to build a championship team. And if we think that there's a move or a series of moves

that make it more likely we will be that, then we would ignore continuity. and we do those moves. They're going to upgrade, have to. You can't lose that early in the playoffs. Against an old team, don't make a move. I was going to keep this in the holster

until OKC loses again, but I think Kevin Durant actually makes more sense in Oklahoma City than he does in Houston. OKC's very close, but they don't have a two. I don't think you trust Chet or J. Dub. But you go to Houston, they don't even have a one. I think they need Janus. Yeah, more than they need KD, right?

I agree. KD's established he's not a leader. He does not want to be the locker room, rah-rah guy. Janus will be that guy. You see Yokic doing it for Denver. I don't know, KD would fit perfectly in OKC. I think Houston goes all in for Yannis. Do you remember what happened in Memphis a couple years ago?

They got the two seed. Lakers beat them in the playoffs. Remember Lakers beat that won the play in and then smash Memphis? Memphis has never gotten back to that level because they never leveled up there. Like, oh, we'll just try it again with Bain and Jain and Jets. Jackson and John. Now all of a sudden, if you don't win again, there's tons of pressure on your young guys, and they're still not ready. So Houston, listen, they didn't get it done, but I don't think you run it back. I think you just go all in for yon. I totally agree. I think you move off Jalen Green and

some picks. Yeah, even Shetgoon, if you must. Next up is Seattle, Colin. They got my guy Jaylon Milro with a third round pick in the draft. I like Milro a lot. Obviously, he's a work in progress. He knows what he has to do, just like Lamar had to do some stuff to become an efficient passer. The biggest thing is everything works from the ground up at a quarter of position. Understanding the lower-hat mechanics and how I operate, every quarterback is different. And so doing a really deep understanding of how my body functions at the core of position with throwing a ball. It's all about being efficient passer. And so the more you work, the more you understand your body, you're going to be more of efficient passes. So, you know, that's something

that we work on and continues to work on so I can be the best quarterback I can be. Let me tell you something. He's going to play. He is, he is, he is, he is, literally too gifted an athlete not to get on the field. That is the movie right there. He sounded super smart. I like everything I have. So Steve Kime, my buddy, represents him at Cluck Sports. Oh. He was like, told me like two months ago, he's like, this kid is just money.

Great kid. He is way too good of an athlete. You have got to get him on the field. And keep your eye on him in red zone stuff. You know, the red zone's a place where a Mike Evans has a physical advantage or Lamar Jackson has a physical advantage because it's all clutter. This kid in the red zone, sometimes you just, see the guy that can beat a corner to the corner in the flag. He's going to play in red zone.

Safe to say Darnold is kind of a, I don't want to say, placeholder? He's their guy for this year. I'm not sure Millrose the future. What I'm telling you is, they just said he may be the best pure athlete in the draft, and they're like, we're going to get him on the field. You can't have a guy like that sitting and watching. Why couldn't you use him in different roles? Well, Lamar sat for the first half of the season. Right. And then, came in and shocked everybody. Remember he made that run. They got to the playoffs and lost. But again, Jalen Milrow, like, you look at his completion percentage for college quarterbacks. We got a stat here. Josh Allen was at 56% at Wyoming. They fixed that.

Look at Dak Prescott. He was only 62. These guys have become great throwers of the football. Jalen Milrow is coming in ahead of them. I don't think it's that big of an uphill climb for Milrow, man. I'm bullish on it. But then again, I just think he's so great athletically. They're not paying Sam 35 large to not be the future for two years. He's got a year for sure. Yeah. And I think what you do with Milro is you just find, you just find plays for him. And by the way, if you have to say, hey, Sam, come out for three plays.

But Milro is just too gifted to sit on the sideline. You just figure out ways to use it. All right. So final story is, remember I had my mock draft for 2006 last week, and I had Archvanding number one. and a lot of people are pushing back, Colin, saying there's no chance he's coming out this season. He's got to start multiple years. His family will not want him going to the Browns. Collins, some NFL scouts are saying, Archmanning could say two more years.

I find that. No, there's just no way. Remember, the biggest Tennessee volunteer booster where Peyton Manning went to school owns the Browns. He'd go to Cleveland. I totally disagree with all these people who were like, no shot. I don't know how good he is. Nobody does. He couldn't beat out Quinn Ewers.

Quinn Ewers went in the seventh round. I don't know. I think when I watched him play, I thought he was athletic with a good arm. But, I, anointing him number one, I don't know. Like Drew Aller last year got much more accurate and efficient than the first year I watched him. He just wasn't good enough. Don't watch the Notre Dame tape from the Bull game. I mean, he was.

Come on. Notre Dame's defense was great. Come on. Listen, we don't know about that. We don't know about anything. This, I mean, some of these guys. Let's hear it. Come on, let's hear it.

I hate Nico going fifth overall. No way. None of these guys. Caleb Downs will absolutely be a top 10 picks. He's a stud. And I've seen Carnell Tate, okay. But a lot of this stuff. Nussmeier of LSU.

I saw your boy, Nick Shea had him going. Is Nussmeyer a top 10th? I don't see it either. But again, hey, guys make leaps. Remember Joe Burroughs first year at LSU. He was like 15 touchdowns, 10 picks. Next year, he was like the greatest college quarterback ever. So things happen.

These guys don't all, you know, get better at the same rate. I've seen Denzel Boston play. He's good. Is he that good? Jordan Tyson. ASU. Love that guy. No. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News.

I think it's a little early for a mock draft, but that's, you know, that's the fun of the whole thing. You know, we could make a friendly wager if it's the most clicked-on article on Fox Sports.com this month. people love the NFL draft. You know it. You could do a mock draft in June, and people would eat it up, Colin. I would. Yeah.

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