The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Julian Edelman stops by

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Colin talks to 3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman about the Chiefs and how they've changed since Edelman and the Patriots were going to-toe-to with Patrick Mahomes in the AFCSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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J-Mack floated that Yonness to the Knicks got me all worked up. I think it makes sense. Trades make sense when both people get big ballots. you. Even if the bucks got better, they have no future. Dames getting older, Brooke Lopez, middle, they're just too old. They're not going to beat Boston. I don't think they can beat the Knicks. They're not going to beat OKC.

And then the Knicks need great. They've got good. Brunson really shouldn't be your number one player. He should be a 1A. You are a great team. I said it's about the Celtics. When Derek White is arguably your fourth best player, you are a great team. if Brunson's your best player you're a good team if he's your second best player you're an exceptional team

if he became your third best player you're a title team that's just not happening he's not becoming your third best player I'm saying I like Brunson but that's the way I've always looked at when the Warriors when Draymond Green was your four or Clay Thompson was your fourth

best player that's historic when Tony Koo coach is your fourth best player then you're an all-time team. Brunson can't be a one. I'm not saying you couldn't if other teams got hurt. But when Derek White, who's a better defender than Brunson, shoots a better three than Brunson,

when Derek White's your four and Brunson's your one, you're not beating Boston. So this, you sound like the guy who says, you got to just, you have to have a franchise quarterback. You got to pay them and all the money. You do. You do. But we just went through it.

All the highest paid quarterbacks are not even a playoff team right now. All of them, except for Jordan Love, who's a wildcard team. Let's be honest about this. To beat the Chiefs, Mahomes Reid. You have to have a coach and an A quarterback to beat them. Brock Purdy in the Super Bowl. It's not an A quarterback.

He was, you know how close. They dominated that game common. Not an A quarterback. Oh my gosh. There's only four teams in the league I think can beat them. Beat the Chiefs? Who? It's coach quarterback combo.

Baltimore, Chargers, Rams, Detroit, Buffalo. That's it. So Dan Campbell, Jared Gough. I'm not saying they would, but Goff's better than Purdy easily. We're upsetting the Apple card here, Colin. I'm telling you, the new model is going to be pay your quarterback less. You don't need a superstar, break the bank guy. That's how you build.

We're seeing that. I don't think golf is a superstar, right? You don't either. No, he's a very. He's an A quarterback. Not A plus, but he's A. All right, the Chiefs who have an A plus plus quarterback stayed undefeated last night after beating Tampa Bay. and you can always tell when a team is truly superior to the rest of the league

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My take is when you're facing a Brady, I'm a Holmes. You're on the road. You're missing pieces. I don't want to go to overtime. If I can steal it and get on my United Airlines flight home, I'm good. I would have gone for it. I just get me out of this place. Would you have gone forward if you were the coach?

In that specific situation, no. because the Buccaneers probably couldn't get the two-point conversion. All their red area targets with Chris Godwin gone, Mike Evans, there's no one to throw to. Oten had a really good game, but you mean to tell me you think Spagnola wouldn't have had something up his sleeve for that two-point play? And by that time, all those short area, red area plays for the Buccaneers

have already been ran, so they already have beat on something. I just don't think Todd Bulls thought they could win the game there. And, you know, it was a sloppy, rainy day. kicking conditions were kind of weird. You know, anytime you have those kind of games, anything can happen. And, you know, unfortunately, they lost, but I don't think they could win. I don't think the Buccaneers could win. So Mahomes has one.

I looked it up today. Patrick Mahomes is 47 and 19 in his career by games decided, including the playoffs, touchdown or less. and it's just weird to watch them. They're obviously good. They've gotten to a point now where I just, I feel very much like you guys. I just look at that game last night.

I'm like, I don't care Tampa's driving. Kansas City's going to win the game. That's just how I looked at Brady and his prime. You guys would figure out a way situationally. She's not a smarter coach, smarter quarterback. Do you see that? I do. I see a very confident team,

but I see a focused team. this team understands how to improve each week. I guarantee they're going to look at this game and the offense is probably going to say, and Patrick and Andy Reid are going to probably say we could have won that game if we would have got that first down instead of going that three and out in that four-minute offense situation. That's how they think.

Or worthy steps out of bounds. Or worthy steps out of bounds. They're thinking about how can we improve our team for next week. That's why I think they're a focused team and they're running on it. They're a machine right now. And we talked about last time I was on. Their situational plays, they always do well on.

And that's because they prepare for those plays. They know the games come down between a few third downs here, that you have to get off the field when you're on defense, or you have to extend a drive or a red area play. They were unbelievable in the red area last night. They were great on third down. Watching D'Andre Hopkins there, be on the same page with the confident, focused Patrick Mahomes.

is something I would have expected a veteran type guy that knows space, that knows zone, that's great in the red area, that's great on third down. I think they're going to be very tough to beat it. It's going to be up to the field. They're going to be up to the field. It's going to be up to

Baltimore, can we catch some demons, chase some demons out because they haven't done well in playoffs along with the bills. Did you ever, D. Hop comes in eight catches. I mean, obviously, Andy's stuff is fairly sophisticated. Reuse, I mean, did you, in New England,

I always think defense is easier. That's more search and destroy. Offensive's choreography. It's a trade deadline. Can guys come in and quickly learn? Like, I was surprised DeHop was that good in red zone situations. Yeah, well, there's only so many red area plays. Okay.

Now, we didn't see DeAndre Hopkins on one of those, oh, whoopty-woo, behind the back, screen plays or shuffle plays. past. He was on a little slant where you can understand that. You know a player of his experience has played in the red area for a long time that they were going to find something. It reminded me a lot of when you have a receiver that understands the game like D'Andre, it's kind of like when Randy went over with Tom. And they didn't even have any training camp. They didn't have anything together because Randy, I think, had a hamstring. But that first game, instant chemistry

because they're both very smart football players. You got a question. quarterback that knows the receivers, the way he could see. Like, like, when you watch that, that first game, when Tom threw that, that, those balls to Randy, like, that was a chemistry that was just there. It was very similar to, like, the Hopkins last, last night making that slant. So I think when you have two smart football players, I got lost to train of thought on there, but I was going down something, but you have two smart football players, things will happen. You know, it's interesting that you said this, that Sean Pate and always says this. The best time to be a coach is you win, but don't play great so you can coach them hard.

Did Belichick, was there ever a moment during, and there may have been many, but during the regular season, you know, before the tough games of January, that Bill came in on a Tuesday and said, how's a great performance? Or did he avoid that? He avoided that. There was never really a great performance. There was like, fellas, we're on the right page. We're in the right direction.

But that's how I think great coaches think. It's not about what you've done great. It's about how can we improve and get ourselves to that last game to have our best football performance the last game of the year. And I'm sure Andy Reid is probably similar. He probably delivers it differently. Yeah. But I'm sure that he addresses everything that they could have done better in that game last night,

just like Bill did it probably in a different manner to us. You know what I mean? So I think the great coaches find a way to be able to improve the team, whether you guys do really good or really bad. That's ultimately what the NFL season, regular seasons for, is improving your team to the absolute best for when you get in the dance, you got a shot. So the Eagles have beaten bad teams, Giants, Browns, Bengals, Jags,

four-game winning streak. Hertz is not turning the ball over. Yeah. Well, bad teams don't force you into mistakes. Good teams do. Yeah. Do you buy Philadelphia? No, I mean, I had a state of the union on our show.

Fox Morning kickoff about this last weekend, saying that, you know, the leadership of that organization right now is just too noisy. They have a lot of talent, yes, at a lot of key positions. But losing a Jason Kelsey. the offense line is someone who you think that was able to probably go into the coach's office and talk to Siriani or address the coach. Chip Kelly admits he did, but he was there.

Yeah, I mean, they don't have that anymore. I don't think Jalen Hertz is that kind of guy. I don't think he's going to go for confrontation. And right now, like, there's just been a lot of episodes. Can I bet on Siriani going out and beating a Detroit in a playoff game with a lot of these behavior? or like the noise that we've heard. And I know it's only the middle of the season,

but, you know, like they haven't played anyone really that great, and they're not going to play anyone really that great going forward playing in their division, the Giants twice, and Dallas twice. They're going to have a great record. It's going to come down to can they beat the good teams when they have to play the good teams. And right now I just can't pick them with how the leadership's been going. So I was talking this morning to a couple of former college basketball players, and we were talking about Yukon and Dan Hurley.

And I said they play with NBA physicality as college kids. And the secret is they practice hard. Hurley's like he'll never embarrass his players publicly. He rides him at practice. And I think about physicality. All New England teams were physical. And I didn't think you always had the best player. So the Chargers take the exact same defense of last year.

That was a mess. Yeah. They're number one in the league right now. Yeah. Now they may not be the number one defense. but they're playing like it. Yeah. And I'm thinking myself, how in the hell?

It's the same dudes. Like what, what? How did Bill cultivate, create physicality? Because you know, you always said this, every team's different. There were times, Teddy Bruskey teams would be tough because of Teddy and Rodney. Yeah. They're guaranteed. You didn't always have bangers at safety.

You didn't have a brusky forever. How did Bill create toughness? We practiced it. and I guarantee that's probably what Harbaal is doing over in L.A. Like, they probably practice one-on-one blocking and tackling. You'd be surprised on how many teams don't practice tackling, which is like the number one thing on being able to break a tackle or make a tackle, block a guy or unblock guy.

Like, we would practice those one-on-one battles all the way until the Super Bowl, at least once a week. And that's what I see with San Diego. They're fundamentally sound right now at the time. The offensive line, they're getting a lot better. They've improved on the defense line. They stay in their gaps. They don't have these crazy pass rushes where they get past the quarterback like they have in the past where they're undisciplined.

They just seem to be fundamentally more sound. They understand their roster that they don't have a huge guy on the outside where they're going to, you know, be able to have explosion plays. They understand that they can only throw the ball a certain amount of times with Herbert and not going to force them 35 times down the field with no weapons. So, like, they understand their roster and they fundamentally have gotten more strong. Are you surprised how good? I think Bo Nix is playing well. I thought Drake may look good this weekend. I think Jaden Daniels, I think he's a top 10, 12 quarterback.

I just think he is. Caleb's struggling. It could be coaching staff, whatever. But it does feel like, and J.J. McCarthy looked very good in the preseason. Yeah. But then before he got hurt. Are you surprised how, like, I watched Jaden, Daniels, I'm like, it looks easy.

And I watched Drake May this weekend without much to work with. And I was like, oh, yeah, he can play. Feeder messed up, but he can play. Does that surprise you? No, it doesn't. There's a lot of great coaches right now. A lot of these guys have been throwing in these passing camps, seven-on-sevins.

I think guys are transitioning a lot quicker. You look at the receiver position. When I first got in the league, it took a while for a receiver to get acclimated to the NFL with the terminology, the spacing, What years you break in? 2009. Okay, so 13 years ago. Something like that, yeah.

15, whatever, 50, 15, my bad. So when you broke into the league, you didn't go to seven-on-seven camps. We didn't have that. That wasn't coming around as, it was very rare. So college for you, college to pro, it was like high school to college. Yes. When you got into college for the first time, that's when you were really seeing different kind of coverages. And it's still very vanilla.

Right. You know, there was not a lot of scheme. You either saw, you know, post-safety zone, a blitz zone, which everyone sees with cover three or cover two or cover four. You know, now these kids are seeing all these coverages a lot sooner because they have to scheme in these seven-on-seven pass camps. Right. And so then you get pattern recognition a lot faster and quicker.

So I think it's helping these younger players transition a lot quicker. You know, this is the information age. These guys can go see how the best quarterbacks train, how the best running backs train, the best receivers train, what they do in the offseason, how they take care of their body, how they're studying. Like a lot of things are available now. So you're seeing guys transition a lot quicker, I think. Okay, so Detroit's offensive line malls people. Yeah. And I remember Ray Lewis telling me this years ago.

I asked Ray Lewis, one of the all-time tough guys. I said, was there ever a team you didn't like to play? he said, I hated playing Kansas City. Yeah. Willie Roof. He's like, I would just come out of that thing. I had to, you know, I would do like, spirituality Saturday night, here comes Kansas City.

It's going to be a miserable game. Yeah. And you may not remember this. Kansas City had about a six-year stretch when they just had huge offensive lines. 3.30 across the board. Willie Rope was one of their great ones. We have Brian's, who was the guard? I know who

Yeah He came over yeah Okay so I watched Detroit And I've said There's been three great offensive lines In the last 10 years The Tyron Smith

Zach Martin The early Dallas went 10 years ago The Philadelphia one Really good And Detroit's now There were moments against Green Bay Where literally Penae Seul pushed his guy out of the TV screen

Yeah Do you ever remember In New England you always had Because of Dante Scarnack You had good offensive lines. They weren't dominant, but they were good. Do you remember when you play a team like

a Detroit, Belichick the other day on the other network was like you just hope they make mistakes. They're just big up better players. Go to a game in your career, because I think that's what Detroit does. They're just better. Go to a team. Was there ever a team that you played? New

England played during Belichick. And Belichick acknowledged privately. Listen, that's the best we've ever faced. Either that receiving court. That second, like Baltimore's secondary for years. Would Bill just be honest with you guys? Because I think when you face Detroit, you have to be honest with your team. Yeah, I remember we play those Denver teams. And they had, you know, they had really good receivers, you know, it wasn't necessarily announced to the team, but you'd have like a coach come, come hit you in the

locker room or hit you in the hallway, like, you know, we need you to do really good on this third down. We got to keep this offense off because these guys are going to score a lot of points. Was that the Peyton Manning teams a little bit? Peyton Manning teams, you know, I remember a little bit of that. Yeah, there's always a little game planning for how you have to play offense if you're going against a very explosive, very good offense. And that's by elongating drives and having long methodical drives to keep them off the field. Anytime we play those Peyton Manning teams, that was kind of like what we really wanted to do.

Let's keep them on the other sideline and let's just execute what we wanted to. do keep them off. And yeah, I think a lot of that goes into game playing for very good offense lines. Yeah, I think Detroit now. Physical teams and teams

that are going to score points. Like, we were a game playing team. You know, there's sometimes, you know, I would never be in those coaches meetings, but, you know,

Josh would come into the offense say, hey, fellows, we're going to have to get 35 points this week. It's just one of those games. Yeah. And we can do it. We have the matchups on the outside where we have to do it

because they're going to score points. National Football League, they got a good quarterback, too. early in those Kansas City years when we were playing the young Patrick Mahomes, we knew we had to score some points. Or those, you know, those Rams teams when Stapford first got there, or the golf years when we would play those guys when they had that 50 to 51 game. Remember that?

We played Kansas City like a week after or something. So, you know, you definitely have to game plan and think of those things. But ultimately it comes down to what each guy has to do on his job, each play. And when you do that, that's when you have your best shot. Yeah. Do you remember the Mahomes game when you beat them? Do you remember it? Yeah, I do.

That was a regular season game. I think it was like a week seven or week eight. We beat them, I think, 30 to 33 or something. It was just high flying. It was a good game. It was a good game. Yeah. They were still young.

They weren't there at defense that well yet. They weren't. They weren't there at the defense side of the ball. Yeah, we had a lot of matchups that we liked. But offensively, you knew that they were going to score points. That was the Tyreek team. That was Tyreek. But I felt like we always played him pretty well.

Yep. You know, we always controlled the game the way you had to. We always kept them off the field. You know, we'd have to put the pressure on. Mahomes not throwing to his best guy. You know, we'd always have some kind of exotic thing on defense, that a wrinkle. We'd do something completely different offense.

I just remember we were against the teams like that. We'd always end the game running the ball. They'd break. We'd always stick to the run. By the end, you'd see Rex Burkett in an end zone. Or you see LaGarrett Blunt with a 40-yard chunk play because we would stick to it. We knew that was the game plan. Julian Edelman, he has got a podcast games with names.

He's on the NFL Fox kickoff, Sundays 11 Eastern on Fox. Good seeing you, buddy. Good to see you guys. We'll take a break. Come back. Heardline News around the corner live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd.

weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,

follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot,

or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.

I'm Sam Jett and I'm Alex English Each episode we pick it here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill Waxing all about crack in the 80s To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack I'm down to talk about crack on day

But just so you know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have AIDS on the table right now So Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations. with so many incredible guests. I'm talking.

Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses.

Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person.

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With the Green Bay Packers, he's a veteran guy Preston Smith. So opposite of T.J. Watt, you'll have Preston Smith. So Green Bay is very, very young. They're paying Jordan Love a ton. So, you know, they got to get some cheap guys in the draft because Jordan Love now is one of the bigger cap hits. So one of the NFL's best defenses improved. So Preston Smith goes over to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

So Pittsburgh, Mike Williams, Preston Smith, they're not necessarily changing outcomes. but I think Pittsburgh is looking at Kansas City with D-Hop. And they're like, okay, they're better. And they're looking at Baltimore with Deontay Johnson. All right, they're better. I'm watching Amari Cooper with Buffalo. Okay, they're better. Pittsburgh's also telling you,

we don't know how long Russell Wilson's going to be here. We don't have any idea. He's here now. Russell Wilson's not getting younger. We're playing good. I like what Pittsburgh's doing. I think Marshawn Lattimore is the best move of the day. And Smith to me is the second best move of the day was Zadaria Smith to the Lions.

Good B, solid B move, two good organizations. Steelers, Packers, exchanging picks and players. Preston Smith is a good, solid defensive end. But I think a lot of this goes into Washington's making their big move because they're like, we're not paying Jayden Daniels anything for four years. If we have to overspend a little bit on a corner, it's our weakness. And I think the Steelers look at it and think, listen, we're not going to. going to go up against Lamar, Josh

Allen, Mahomes, or a Herbert, and have the better quarterback. But we can have the better pass rush and the better defense. So Pittsburgh, I think, recognizes their way to win, which is great defense, no mistakes, little ball control, so let's

make our defense better. I like it. J-Mack, with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So much happening in the last two days. We didn't even talk about Drake May, who I thought was pretty phenomenal in a loss to the Titans over the weekend. He made great plays all afternoon, including the game-tying

touchdown as time expired. His teammate, Devon, Godschau, anointed him Josh Allen 2.0, but Gerard Mayo was quick to shut down that comparison. I call him Drake May 1.0. I don't want to get in the comparisons of Josh Allen's a multi-year a pro bowl quarterback and we're here at the beginning stages of a developing quarterback that I think we're all excited about. He's trying to make plays. He's trying to do what he thinks is best to help the team win and I appreciate that and at the same time, you know, we have to make sure that he's protecting himself. Yeah, he's not Josh Allen as a prospect, but he's good. His feet are messed up a little bit. I didn't like his feet out of college. I don't love him now, but he moves

well, big kid. I mean, obviously Brissette couldn't move the team. Drake May comes in and moves the team. With 95 yards rushing. 95. You know, no, he's an athlete. Toss out the game losing interception in overtime. That was a bad toss. Listen, but he's got no weapons.

And again, I was. I was higher on Drake May than I was Jaden Daniels coming in. That looks silly. But Drake May has shown, oh my gosh, here's what the problem is. We saw Mayo in August saying that like Jacoby Brissette was the best quarterback on the roster, blah, blah, blah. like anybody who's seen a little of Drake May is like, what on earth will you see?

May has been so much better than percent. Totally changes the dimensions of this team. Patriots are going to be interesting going forward. I think this team has something at quarterback. In the NFL, you either have a great quarterback and you know it or you think you have a potentially great quarterback. And in New England's in the second class, is that they're looking at this and they're like,

we're never going to be this untalented again on offense. This is the least talent Drake May will ever have. My only concern is the coach. I feel like he is, it feels kind of like poor man's Belichick a little bit. Who was it at Jim Tom Sulla? You remember that? It's not at that level of bad? No, I don't think it's bad.

I just think you start looking around the AFC and it's John Harbon, Jim Harbon, Andy Reed and Sean Payton. Gerard Mayo could be fine, but a B coach in a conference with A coaches everywhere is rough. And they were in on Brandon Ayyuk. tried to go after Iyuk because they thought, you know, Iyuk plus May.

I think if any of these wide receivers are squirrely, are they going to return? Do they want to go somewhere? I think the Patriots are going to be in the mix. They need a massive talent infusion, Colin. Offensive line, receiver, they got nothing. Well, and the good news, they have a very reasonable chance to have the number one pick. So that's...

And you just trade down. Once you have your quarterback, trade down... Wait, hold on. Do you think you would keep May and trade the one? Or do you say I like she do her better than May? No, you keep May. You don't want to start over again. May is clearly good enough to be a good quarterback in the league, clearly.

You can spot stuff early. Size, mobility. He's gotten significantly better from the first time we saw him. So he's obviously coachable. He's adaptable. And he's working with this is the worst team he'll ever play for. New England will never have this little of talent because they're going to have draft picks. So I still, I still content I do not understand moving off Chicago.

I'll never get that. It was like moving off DJ more for the Panthers and then drafting Bryce Young. What are you doing? That was on Belichick or was I forget the timeline. I didn't get that. Listen, if you have a quarterback, there's two or three things you need. The right coach, a left tackle and a great number one weapon. Jacoby Myers is a really good NFL player. Now he's in no-man's land in Vegas. They can't get him the ball. Next story is the Ravens Defense. Looked really good in that 4110 beatdown of the Broncos. But overall, the defense has regressed from last year. One of the worst performances came against Joe Burrow in week five.

Burrow had about 400 yards of offense and five touchdowns. They have a massive showdown Thursday night. Corner Marlon Humphrey of the Raven says the poor play is on the players. For me, as a player, as knowing what's going on, I hate seeing coaches get under scrutiny when it's the player. fault. You know, I felt that there was, you know, this ain't being coached this way, right? This ain't being this. This ain't being this. It's a little different, but it really sucks when what we're put, the product we're putting out there isn't what we're being coached, isn't what

we're practicing. And that's, that's kind of what hurts me. Yeah. I kind of want to fire on the Bengals in this game, Bengals, Ravens, but I don't know about T. Higgins. I mean, this is for six and a half down to six. I think it's a divisional rematch. Where's the game map? In Baltimore. It's a night, which is dangerous. But these historically, the divisional rematches are close. Well, I just...

Familiarity with each other, you know? Generally speak, like a couple weeks ago, I took Colts against the Texans. It's just divisional game. You know, if you start looking what's happening in the NFL right now, best quarterbacks are winning the games. And Lamar and

Burrow, they're just both great, so I can't. and Baltimore's a much better operation. I feel bad for Burrell. Burrell's getting very snippy, and I don't blame him. I think he's upset with his ownership, and I think, you look at all the quarterbacks right now in the league

that are very, very good. Josh Allen, good players. Lamar, good players. Herbert, they have good players. Khalil Mack, Abosa, Derwin, James, good players. Mahalms, good players. Golf, good players. Jalen Hertz, good players.

You start looking at all these good quarterbacks. They all have good players. There's one. really good quarterback and you're like, yeah, I didn't have much to work with. It's Joe Burrow. How ticked would you be? You were within two minutes of winning a Super Bowl

and now you're not even a playoff team. The only quarterback in the league that's really, really good that you're like, get him some help. There's only one right now in the league. It's Joe Burrow. If you took Jamar Chase out, what do they have? Well, we'll see what happens with T. Higgins this offseason. Oh, he's not coming back.

Okay, so now you lose Higgins, you lost Mixin, you lost Boyd. It's just the Jamar and Joe show. So anyway, final stories, college football. Colin, early this morning, USC announced a change at quarterback, Miller Moss, who I think after week one you were saying as a Heisman Trojan, I'm just kidding. I'm joking. He's been benched in favor of UNLV transfer Jaden Mayuva. The Trojans have lost four or five.

They are reeling. They got a big game against Nebraska in, I guess, two weeks. So Lincoln Riley's got the bye week, and he's going to let the new guy have a shot. He sat behind Caleb for two years. He almost transferred. He wanted his shot. He had it, and he's just not athletic enough. Well, wait a minute.

He was good early in the season. I didn't watch a Washington game. But the bottom line is he doesn't move the pocket at all. So I think Lincoln Riley's better with a quarterback, Kyler Murray, Caleb William. If you look at Lincoln's history, he's better when a quarterback moves. And he doesn't. He's a pocket quarterback. So he's very old school.

He's certainly capable of playing. But I think over the course of time, he doesn't. You know, listen, if you just, if you just. Jared Goff works as a pocket quarterback because the O-line and the run game so dominant. But USC doesn't have a dominant run game. So the only way to extend drives is to extend the pocket. And they get into these third and fives. And, I mean, basically, if you have a quarterback that can move like USC's backup,

it adds 30% playbook. So you can blame Lincoln Riley. But when you have a pure pocket passer and a young O line, you can't do seven-step drops. You've got to get rid of the ball. They have one decent running back. He doesn't move. It's a very limited offense. But I felt like it wasn't against LSU early in the season.

When Lincoln Riley gets an off season for one game, they look great against LSU. But then everybody gets film on him and you're like, oh, he doesn't move from the pocket. Three picks against Washington. It was bad. No, I watched it. I saw the highlight. I'm not watching USC football. Sorry.

It's just, it's pocket quarterbacks. It, again, it works if you have a dominant run game in O line like Detroit. But even guys like Brock Purdy, who I don't love, he moves so I can add more plays to the playbook. You're close to the program. The only thing I'll say is a lot of, hey, media, you're still, stay out of practice. Don't ask my guys that question. It's the quarterback's fault. I don't like that.

I hear a lot of blaming everyone else. At some point, Lincoln Riley's got to look in the mirror. Dude, he's just not been a good coach. Well, I think I don't like that either. I think the bigger issue is I don't think they have enough good players. he has not done a good job building a fence around Southern California. They don't get anything. I mean, they've got one or two really good California players going.

And basically, California, Southern California is being rated by Big Ten schools. Alabama, A&M, SEC. It's having, SEC's having more success recruiting top players in California than USC. So that's a problem. And they can't buy the players like Oregon's got a bigger budget. So there's the questions to me, it's not like Linking. and Kent coach. It's a very young team and they just don't have enough really elite players. They've got good players. They don't look like Ohio State. They don't look like Georgia, Texas.

They don't, they don't look like, I mean, I've watched Notre Dame a couple times this year. Notre Dame's got some dudes. Now, they're not a great team. But they've got some great players. You can see them on TV every Saturday. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. You know, you guys come out like vultures and wolves when USC, you know, struggling a little bit. They're leading all these games. They just can't close the games.

So you make a move. On the show tomorrow, Tom Brady and Sean McVeigh. So here's the trade so far on trade deadline today. My favorites, Marshawn Latimore to the commander, solves a major issue. He's a very good player. My second favorite is Preston Smith to the Steelers. I think Pittsburgh knows. Let's just add to a good defense.

We're not going to outscore the Kansas cities, the Baltimore's, the Buffaloes. I would say Zadiria Smith to the lines is solid. Outside of that, the mingo to the Cowboys is fourth-round pick is too much. He is not a guy that separates. He is a big physical, kind of a physical. It looks like a linebacker. He doesn't separate. And so he is on any team, a third or a fourth receiver.

He was overdrafted by Carolina. And now the, basically, the Cowboys have overcompensated Carolina to trade for him. It's funny. The best moves were done, what, a week ago or two weeks ago when the Ravens and Bills made their moves. Real contenders. I'd say a lot of these are pretenders. DeHop to the chief. Outside of Lions.

DeHop, his early returns are good. It looked pretty good last night. Oh, just stop. It really did now. So aren't you, how's this? You watched the Chiefs. Was that like a visually stimulating game? Did they look fun?

I didn't see any trick plays. It was kind of boring, wasn't it? Like a Kareem Hunt into the line of scrimmage. Well, that last night they went very methodical. I know it was raining in the crowd. That's what they have to do now. So, I mean, they're waiting for worthy to grow up. He stepped out of bounds last night.

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