The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Justin Fields, Kyler Murray

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

Is Justin Fields the real deal for the Bears at quarterback? Why the Cardinals offense is struggling with Kyler Murray this season   Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informa...tion.

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Starting point is 00:04:32 All right, here we go. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So the Nets kicked off Jacques Vaughn's official tenure as head coach with a nice win over the Knicks. They won by, I think, 27. Second blowout win for Brooklyn since Vaughn took over for Steve Nash.
Starting point is 00:04:52 But more importantly, no Kyrie Irving, Colin. They look much better without that locker room disaster. Kevin Durant spoke out about its reaction to the news that Vaughn. was chosen to keep the gig. I was excited for him. I know the work that he puts in every day. I know how much he cares about the development of each player and his team as a whole. And looking forward to playing for him.
Starting point is 00:05:17 All the guys have responded to how he wants us to play. So I'm looking forward to how we progress after this. We don't want this to be a honeymoon stage for us. We want to continue to keep pushing through, keep finding ways to get better. finding ways to, you know, turn those weaknesses into strengths and keep pushing from here. Well, at least they're admitting now they need a coach. They got a coach, Josh Von. Well, they need a coach.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I thought Kyrie said there's no coach needed. Well, he's no longer there. Oh, right. But he has a lot of defenders. Kyrie has a lot of defenders among the players. Listen, I don't even want to get us started on what LeBron just tweeted out about Kyrie apologized he should be back. Like, the league is better without this guy being a disaster and all the focus on Kyrie
Starting point is 00:06:03 Irving. Sorry, not a fan. Next up, Justin Fields. Oh, what a story he's been, Colin. Rush for an NFL record for a quarterback, 178 yards last week, the most in a regular season game since at least 1940. Head coach Matt Iberfluse loves him, tight end Cole Commett, said it's been pretty special to watch what Fields is doing right now. Colin, Justin Fields' last five games, we're going to show you the stats here. Let me see him. Is this guy a franchise quarterback? It's starting to look like, look at this guy. Justin Fields on fire. Now it is a five-game sample size.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Well, I mean, this is what I like, is they're using him right. So as he's figuring out how to, like all young quarterbacks, read the defense, see the field. This is hard, man. You don't go from the Big Ten to the NFL and just do like, you know. So as he's figuring it out on the fly, I think Luke Getzzi, with fairly limited offensive help, is moving the pocket.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And so this is why I like mobility. If you've got mobility, while you're trying to figure out this league, like Josh Allen's trying to figure out, you know, the league, you can pick up a lot of first downs and score a lot of points with your legs. That's why the classic pocket passer,
Starting point is 00:07:20 it's rough because that first two years, in 2022, we give you two years. At two years, you're out if you don't develop. So if you're not picking up first downs and moving it beyond the pocket, we don't expect you to come into this league and be a great pocket surgeon. It's the empathy. The smartest guys, the best guys.
Starting point is 00:07:39 The Andrew Lux who walk into this league, Elway, Manning, tons of interceptions. What Peyton Manning led the league in interceptions his first year, didn't win a playoff game for, I think, like, five years. It takes a while. Patrick Mahomes is maybe the best talent ever. Smart kid coachable. Admitted, the light came on late, second year, early third.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But Fields, as he's developing that kind of moxie, can move, extend the pocket, pick up first down. So it's obvious what the Bears need to do this offseason. Bolster the offensive line and buy the best receiver you can spend money on. No, no, no, no, that's a big mistake. Wait a minute. The quarterback's on the rookie deal. This is what you do it.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You did a segment on this. You go by the best center on the league. So give him a center, get them a pro bowl letter center. Okay. Then you draft another tight end with Cole Commit. Get another running back. Get another receiver. I think what you do, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You just go by, because if you spend the most for a receiver, he's going to want the ball and demand it. Well, it depends who you're getting. Are you getting Tyree Kill? Are you getting A.J. Brown? No. Those guys have made their rookie quarterback deals look awesome for her to do. With Mooney and Chase Claypool, can you give me another, even a high end two? A really good solid guy with Colquamette. I would, they have a huge, they have a huge availability and cap flexibility. I would go by another tight end, a veteran with Cole Comat. I would go draft another running back. I would draft two receivers. And I also would
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Starting point is 00:09:19 That's my final story You just want to throw a ton of money In a receiver Well okay fine The reason is because every quarterback recently That's been on the rookie deal You go get a receiver I mean Josh Allen gets Stefan Diggs
Starting point is 00:09:31 and becomes like, holy cow, this guy's awesome, right? You're not. Tua gets Tyreek. Kylo Mori gets DeAndre Hopkins and make the playoffs last year. Like you go get a really good receiver. If you overpay a little bit, so what? You're paying nothing for Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I don't know who that receiver is. I got to look online and parse the spot track contracts, but there's somebody there. Final story, Colin, week 10 gets started tonight. There's a reason we haven't talked much about the TNF. Awful, awful. Falcons, Panthers. They played 11 days ago when Atlanta pulled out stunning victory in overtime.
Starting point is 00:10:06 PJ Walker. He was benched last week. Are you going to watch this game? Half time against the Bengals. Are you going to watch this game? I don't know. I got to check my schedule. But PJ Walker is going to be starting tonight, Colin.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Fox Bed has it as the Falcons are two and a half point favorites. Ryan, will you watch this game tonight, Ryan? I like Marcus Mario. I kind of like Atlanta's story. Colin, there are many hockey games and hockey scores. I need to be keeping up to. date on. Is he serious? Is that real thing? He watches hockey. What's the NBA
Starting point is 00:10:34 slate tonight? Haven't even looked. So I'll put it on my Fubo and watch an NBA game. I bet the under here. I have a couple guys in fantasy going. I like Marcus Mario D'ODA's. I think Atlanta's story is interesting to me. I kind of like what they're doing with Arthur Smith. Is it Arthur Smith, the coach?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Arthur Jay. No, Arthur Smith. Marioita, when uprights fine, they run the ball. They're a little different. I kind of like what I I kind of like what I see. I thought they were going to be tanking. They're like the Utah Jazz. And then you look up and you're like, they're in these games.
Starting point is 00:11:05 They're fighting their butt off. They kind of like it. Two and a half. Two and a half Falcons are favored. Would you bet them to win by? Some money came in on the Panthers. It was three most of the week. I'm not going to bet this game.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah. I don't like betting games. I got the under under 42 and a half. No, no. Primetime unders cashing. It's not automatic. Nothing's automatic. But that's it.
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Starting point is 00:11:36 Justin Fields is, some of this stuff is, I mean, we all watch all these games, right? You're just kind of watching it and you're thinking, yeah, that works for me. Like, a prime example is Trevor Lawrence. He has made some really bad, like, red zone throws that have taken wins away. But when I watch Trevor Lawrence, I definitely see it. There are moments I'm like, whoa. So, like, I think he's going to work.
Starting point is 00:12:00 They're not going to bail on him. We did this once and you loved it. Who would you rather have as your quarterback next year from the 20, class of 2021? Justin Fields or Mac Jones? Oh, Justin Fields. Justin Fields or Zach Wilson? Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Justin Fields or who's the other guy? Trey Lance. Justin Fields. All right. So it's basically Fields or Trevor Lawrence from that class. Yeah. And this second, and I may change my mind by the end of the season, I'd be a Trevor Lawrence guy.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Oh. Yeah. I don't think, you know, there's, it's Jacksonville's always a little dicey. It's hard to really get my. Even Jacksonville, quarterback on the rookie deal, they gave Christian Kirk $73 million. Now he's like a second-tier receiver. He's been good. Yeah, he's a productive guy.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I like Claypool just like you do, but I'm just telling you, Fields has, they've unlocked something in him the last few weeks. It's great. He's dynamic. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio. app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:15:57 Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's bring in Mark Sanchez, a decade in the NFL, first quarterback in league history to start and win his first week. Big Jets quarterback. Put the user colors on. So we have really been on this. You're calling the Lions Bears this week. And there are teams, and this happens sometimes, they're just fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:16:20 So last week I got Miami and Chicago, and I love watching both. Right. Right. So there are teams, as much as J.MAC, says it. Jets games are a corner TV game for me. I'm just being honest. You don't want to see the defense. Corner TV. You don't want nine to six phone booth. I look it out. I never put that game on full. I always had it corner. Noted. But I want to talk about this. Because you got some video on this. And by the way, you're 35 for 12 more hours. Your 36 birthday tomorrow. It is. You're very excited about that? I guess. You look pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:55 well you look pretty good for 30 who are we pumping right now what it's uh what's the men's product that you that's what i take whatever you take i take m drive and there you go plug you'll be real you'll be a stud forever okay so let's let's talk justin fields i think luke gets he's doing a nice job what do i know so let's you got some video here i do it tell me what you're seeing oh we're going video off the jump let's rock i want to with you it's very good let's go we can handle this okay fresh off the out of the car. Okay, this first clip, well, hold on the clip. Most importantly, I think they finally just said, you know what, he's 6'4 and a half, almost 6'5, he runs a 4-4. He's yoked. Let him do it. Go for it. He's big enough, he's strong enough, he's fast enough. Let's unlock some
Starting point is 00:17:42 of that. Let's design some quarterback runs. So instead of having like quick little bubbles and easy completions that are tags on runs, let's just run him, okay? Because he can do it. Instead of, you know, Prescott, other guys who play more from the pocket, they'll give them some designer, breather plays that are just easy completions, easy flip it out to the wide receiver when he's not even moving, just standing there. Instead of that, they're designing these runs just like the bills, just like the Giants for the quarterback, right? Now, most importantly, I think he's got to take the next step and understand some basic stuff. So in this first clip, it's just you get a new wide receiver, Claypool, he's your shiny new toy. You want to get them the football as many times as possible?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Great. However, you got to count the cows. So let's roll this first clip. All right. Roll the first clip. And it's basically they get Claypool running in motion, but it's three over three. Count the cows. Those guys are way too close to those two guys blocking. There's one for the quarterback, two linebackers back here, and they got two pullers coming. So he's got to understand the whole picture. See the big picture. Three for three. That's no good out there. Don't give me that. You want Claypool with a half-man advantage, or if they don't bump over that backer fast enough, or that safety doesn't rotate fast enough to chase him,
Starting point is 00:19:02 and now you got three against two advantage offense. Is that the OC sandal? This is Justin having options on a play and needing to know which option to take. This one, you hand the ball off. Look at the running back. Nobody touched him. If he hands that ball off, he might still be running.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Okay. Watch the running back the whole time. It's three over three. No good. We don't get the advantage numbers-wise. They got it covered. Hand this ball off unless this guy off the edge takes the running back, right? So it's a three-way go.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Dump it to the receiver quickly to Claypool, read the defensive end. Look at the running back. He might hit his head on the goalpost. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Those kind of plays need to change because they're starting to make their hay in other plays. He unlocks these and this other third down I'm going to show you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And now they're scoring 50 a game, right? instead of they're doing it, but they're having to convert third and 16s. You saw the Monday night game. Yeah. He converted consecutive third and 16s against Bill Belichick. Are you kidding? Now, I don't know if Bill Belichick drinks, but after that game, it's like, dude, what were we doing on defense? How do we stop this guy?
Starting point is 00:20:09 And now they're starting to spy him, right? So you're going to put a spy out there that can run a 4-4? A spy that can run a 4-4 can't tackle that guy. He's too big. Right. A spy that is big enough to tackle him. can't run fast enough to tackle him. So you take the spy out of coverage.
Starting point is 00:20:26 So watch this next clip. It's the same play that Wilson had the week before. We're moving motion, using motion. Okay, boom, somebody's traveling with him, man-to-man across the board. Johnny's and Joe's, not the X's and O's. You need routes running away, backs, tight ends, routes on the move. Look at this shallow cross. It's that same shallow cross drive route.
Starting point is 00:20:45 He's number one in the progression. That guy's got to cover him all the way across the field. and the spy player just stepped up. Usually the spy player is the whole player. He jacks those dudes up coming across the middle of the field. But he's so worried about Justin Fields. He can't go hit those guys and affect those shallow routes. Justin throws it down the field out of bounds to St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:21:07 For what? Watch it again. Underneath guys are going to be wide open. Boom, man and man across the board. We see it. Watch this spy guy step up. You're going to see the shallow cross guy. See that backer? step up right in the middle of the field in between the hashes. He's worried about Justin.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That guy usually hits this shallow crossrunner. He's like the old school Detroit Pistons. You can't come across the paint without getting an elbow. That's his job. But now because Justin Fields runs for 178 yards a game, we can't do that. We've got to put somebody on them. You got these two guys crossing over the ball like ships in a night, right?
Starting point is 00:21:38 Two ships crossing in the night. Those guys get picked off. Somebody runs free. Those kind of plays. By the way, next play, fourth and five, punt block. That changes the game. Like these kind of plays change the game. So that's where he's got to take that next step and understand the big picture.
Starting point is 00:21:55 If you're going to run around all game, that's fine. But we got to nail these. Count the cows. Do we have numbers to throw those quick throws to the edge? No, hand it off. Just trust the run game. And then in these type situations, understand the defense. If it's man-a-man, it's backs and tight ends, crossing routes all day long.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Let these guys run away. That's his number one target, Mooney. number one in the progression. Drive, said it last week. The basic 12-yard in to your back leaking out the back door. It's like those things. Once he gets him, this is going to be scary. And in a year, think about Green Bay. They're turning down.
Starting point is 00:22:32 No question. The lions, I don't know, huge divisional matchup this week. The Vikings are kind of running away with the thing. They can win a wild card. I mean, think about that. The Bears could win a wild card if he flips this thing, but he's got literally, like a week and a half to figure it out
Starting point is 00:22:48 or it's just not going to work. See, you didn't think you were ready to come out of your car and crush it. No, let's go. Ready. Now, you want to do another M-Drive. 36 years and rocking, babe. So let's go. Let's talk Jets.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. Because this was a corner TV game for me. My takeaway is it was just a good matchup because the bills don't have a consistent run game. They tend to be big play, you know, play dependent and the Jets pass rush takes away six second drops. So I thought this was just that Jets front is a bad matchup for this Bill's team. It was a very good matchup. They got active. They played up to their competition. I think credit Robert Sol and that defense for making
Starting point is 00:23:36 things hard on quarterbacks. I think CoSell nailed it with these kind of plays like Josh clearly couldn't see him because Williams was in his face, right? Like he clearly couldn't see that guy. But whatever. Williams was in his face. I don't care how he got there, why he got there. It happened. And the Jets defense is responsible for it. Josh just didn't look as comfortable this game. It just looked a little hazy, a little murky, a little muddy. Like it wasn't as clear and he wasn't as decisive with his throws. Like even right after he threw that, he started to fade away. It was like, oh, we're good. Easy completion in the fly. Oh, what just happened? You know? And a lot of that is credit to this defense for muddying up looks, changing up.
Starting point is 00:24:15 some of their stuff, they'll have to go back and look at it again during this bi-week. But listen, as long as Zach takes care of that football, they incorporate Robinson in the run game, like they got to get that thing rolling, that run game. I mean, the sky's the limit. They can't let Zach do what Justin Fields does because he's not quite that fast, right? But he's, listen, he's got plenty to get him there when their defense plays like that. So the position in my life that has really changed is tight-ins. So when I was a kid, Dave Casper for the Raiders, but not a real fast athlete, 87.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It wasn't until like maybe Kellynne Winslow. You're like, whoa, that's different. And then there's been, you know, different tight ends that have come. But now I often look at it as, you know, a kid is six, five and a half, two, 55, and runs. And I watched T.J. Hawkinson in game one with Kirk Cousins. And it was like, do we understand what Kirk Cousins? just got. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So go back to your career. Jets, Eagles, Cowboys, Washington. Who was the best tied end you had? And what did it do for you? Well, I think maybe athletically, Dustin Keller was a no-brainer. And he just put so much stress on defenders because if it's a backer, I love my matchup with Dustin. If it's a safety, I love Dustin's physical matchup with his, you know, being able to body
Starting point is 00:25:43 those guys and go up for throws, right? If it's a backer, it's just run by him because he's so quick. Zach Ertz, one of those guys who, not the biggest catching radius in the world, but still a physically imposing guy. And talk about a guy who could be like an All-American basketball player. Like he just understood spatial awareness. Boxing out. Yeah, just like where to slam on the brakes.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And he learned a lot of that from Brent Selleck, who at the end of his career physically wore down and wasn't quite as fast. The Niners tie-in? Brent Selleck from Philly. Philly, Philly. Who tutored Zach Ertz before Ertz kind of took off. And now Goddard's taken off. But think about that.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They've had three tight ends in a row in Seleck, Ertz, and Goddard that can all play. They love that position. They know what it looks like. But back to those guys understanding how to play basketball on the low block, box a guy out, when to run, when to slow down, when to speed up in a cut, when to round the cut, when to get. You know, in zone, you want to attack the space and get to the space. immediately, don't make a bunch of right angles, right? No cuts in space. Just get to where you're
Starting point is 00:26:50 supposed to be and spread the defense out. In man to man, you've got to run the exact routes and cross guys up in basketball, man to man, cross them up between your legs, Alan Iverson, that kind of stuff. That's how they play. But T.J. Hawkinson, go right back to what we were talking about with Justin Fields and knowing man to man, dude, routes running away, backs and tight ends. You're telling me a guy who knows that the back is always open, the tight end's always open? Kirk Cousins. Everybody gives him a hard time. Oh, check down Charlie. He doesn't throw it down the field. Alex Smith, the back and the tight end are always open, right? When you get your big sexy matchup on the edge and it's one-on-one and everybody, you know, it's an all-out pressure and you got to
Starting point is 00:27:30 throw it to your number one wide out, great. Go for it. But those routes inside are like automatic for those guys. So every time you give Kirk Cousins man-a-man, he's licking his chops. I mean, he's got plenty of options on the edge, but backs and tight ends. He just makes a living off of it. All right, stick around Mark Sanchez, crushing it. Cushing it. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart Radio app.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVore Arrington, and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game. What is Up on Game, you ask? Along with my fellow Pro Bowler, T.J. Hushman's, and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right.
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Starting point is 00:28:43 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:29:04 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports. sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people
Starting point is 00:29:53 who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan,
Starting point is 00:30:16 so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day But just so y'all know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line
Starting point is 00:31:20 We also have AIDS on the table right now So Thank you finishing that sentence I don't think there's a more important year for black people Really? Yeah For me it's one of the most important years
Starting point is 00:31:32 For black people in American history Listen to look back at it On the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts Mark, Mr. Video Sanchez is crushing it. Movember Global Charity aimed at helping men live longer. If you want to go the extra mile, visit Movember.com. Donate to cause.
Starting point is 00:31:50 All right, Mark. So this was said to me recently by somebody that's been in this league coaching for a long time. They said what concerns me about Arizona is that Kyler's no longer young, but even veteran quarterbacks need a half a dozen layups a game. and that what Cliff is doing is running an offense that is asking Kyler to repeatedly be Superman, and you've got to give some easy, even the veterans, Tommy's going to want his six to seven layups. Is it a fair criticism? I don't, they ask Herbert to do a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:29 They ask Joe Burrow to do a lot, right? Those guys are elite processors, and even elite processors, the Brady's, the Mannings. They want a couple breather plays, as you mentioned. Those kind of plays are getting taken away by these teams. And they've started the game plan that the Niners and Domingo Ryan's put out on those guys last year was instead of rushing, a lot of times, defensive ends will rush one deep and one shallow. And they remind each other before the snap a lot of times they'll signal to each other so they don't run into each other. right. So instead of going and going for the quarterback and trying to attack him, they kind of just keep him in a hallway, right? Muddy up the A gap because he's short, his A gap, which is
Starting point is 00:33:17 directly to his right, so he doesn't get an easy throwing lane. Okay. So now if he can't spin out and start playing, you know, streetball and scramble drill, you limit's a big chunk of his... I mean, his production is siloed into this really narrow hallway with a bunch of defenders in the way. So it makes his life really, really hard. So now you don't see those big splash plays of him getting out on the edge because nobody's going to reach for him and attack him. They'll just absorb him and collect him and keep him inside the pocket. Now, you want a smaller guy like that to drop back 40 times a game and beat you?
Starting point is 00:33:52 I like my chances on defense. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, okay, let's make it as hard as possible. Don't give up these quick little layups that turn into fast break easy buckets. Let's lock all that down and see what he does. Make him throw it 10 plus yards every snap. It's hard. That game becomes really, really hard.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Similarly in size, two is small. Admitted he can't see over the line, but he's having no problem. So I understand that argument. Same with Drew Brees. Same with certain players. They can find throwing lanes. Tua's instincts are some of the best. I don't even know if he can explain it, why he does certain things,
Starting point is 00:34:32 because his brain and his arm are just reacting so fast. They also have some elite speed on the edge, and they're also taking deep shots down field, so it backs off some of those defenders, so he is able to get some of those underneath easy plays. He's got a stud tight end. He's got running backs that can catch the ball out of the backfield. Giseki's like underrated tight end of the century.
Starting point is 00:34:53 This guy can ball. He's been good for a couple years. Other than the dancing, I think he's amazing. We've got to work on some of those moves. He's the classic guy. He is the classic tight end in this league that is overshadowed by, you know, your Travis Kelsey's, but he is a dog. But you have to respect Waddle. You have to respect Tyree Kill.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You don't want to put anybody on an island with those guys. So if you're helping everywhere else, once again, it's backs and tight ends. And Tua can move enough. He's savvy enough. He's clearly understanding this offense really well. They're operating at a high level. They look like the, when a team is just on the same page, they just, you can just tell. It's clicking.
Starting point is 00:35:31 they look like the 0,8, 09 Patriots where Brady and Moss went for like 50 touchdowns or like the greatest show on turf with Warner and all those guys, Tori Hold and Isaac Bruce and all. I mean, that's what they look like. That's how fast, how quick everything is happening, and two is in complete control.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Okay, so get the Bengals, Joe Burrell footage ready guys in the back. You did the game last week. Obviously, they got a huge lead. Mix and ran like crazy, which makes everything easier. But if I said you, I'd never seen Joe Burrow play. And I said, hey, Mark, this kid in Cincinnati, like, what's the it? What is it, Mark? Part of it's Jamar Chase.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Really, I think he eliminates some issues that they had on offense without running the football, like, or the lack of even attempts running the football or whatever. Obviously, one game has really changed their averages, just like for them, their first two games, they gave up seven sacks and like six sacks or something. So on average, their sacks per game are going to be crappy until about week 12. right it's just going to look bad in the averages category just like the amount of runs will look bad but joe once again elite processor uh has an incredible connection with jamar chase and it's like a six sense like a spider sense right as soon as he's one-on-one look out you know like it's just the ball's going there the other thing that i thought was just hilarious is um i walked into the bubble last week watching their practice and zach taylor was happen to be standing right there the head coach for the bengals
Starting point is 00:37:01 And I walked up and I had done my film prep and it's Friday before the game. And I walked up and I just said, what's the deal? Dude, you allergic to handing the ball off or what? He looked at me like, who the hell is this guy? Right, right. And, you know, I kind of said it with a smile or whatever for the shock factor kind of deal. And he started laughing. And so we're just going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And I said, you know, I'm just shocked. You guys haven't had a mutiny up front because those offensive linemen, they don't want to play Red Rover all game. Okay? They want to go attack somebody. They don't want to just collect all these defensive lines. I'm in all game. I mean, Lyle Collins, I was with him in Dallas. Like, that guy's a road grader.
Starting point is 00:37:36 He can pass block with the best of them, but he can really, you know, open up to go forward. All these guys that they picked up on this whole line. And so we are laughing back and forth. And then pregame, I see Joe Mixing on the game. I don't know him from Adam. He doesn't know me. And I just said, hey, I heard you're getting like 20-30 carries this game.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And he looked at me like I was Frankenstein, number one, because that's never been their game plan. Right. But now, once I saw the game unfold, he really did have like 25-10. He did. So he was probably like, how does he know our game plan? You know, who is this guy? But Joe is always been one of those.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Because of Chase and T. Higgins and Burrow, nobody ever talked about their defense, very good. And nobody talks a lot about Mixon. Mixon's on a short list. I mean, he's in a top. Oh, I agree. He's an absolute baller. He's got a little Adrian Peterson where he'll run over you.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yes, he's like a smaller, compact, low shoulders, strong. That dude's a load now. You don't want to tackle that guy, especially in space because he's so quick, but he's falling forward consistently. I mean, he had 13 touchdowns last year. So this is, it's not like this guy just burst on the scene, but watch him capture the edge on all those plays. They wadded up in the middle and let him go capture the edge.
Starting point is 00:38:48 It's double teams across the board, go one on one with a corner. Good luck with that, dude. That's, I mean, that is just a physical mismatch for corners, for backers, for safeties. And the way he catches the ball? Do you see him track that football and tap his feet? I mean, the play before that, a receiver couldn't do it. And Joe Mixon did the exact same thing on a scramble drill and scored. So they got plenty there.
Starting point is 00:39:10 They just have to run the ball. I said it to Zach Taylor, man. Just hand that thing off. He said, I want everything to go through our quarterback. You know, we trust him. He's an elite process or all that. I said, it can go to the quarterback. Snap it to the quarterback, but just let him hand it to somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Well, also, I don't think it's good, even if you have a great young quarterback. I don't think you should throw the ball 45 times a game. You could just argue this. It just gets hit a lot. Thank you. A hundred times since the start of the 2001 season, that's when he's hit the ground with the ball in his hand. That doesn't count every time he's getting smacked after he lets the ball go.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So, I mean, clearly they want that guy upright. They want that guy for the long term. So, you know, you're going to have to run the ball, especially when it gets cold. Mark Sanchez was great. We'll see you tomorrow for J. Mack, Mark Ryan, live in Los Angeles. Wow. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Happy birthday. Guys, this is getting out of hand. It's a herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On The Look Back at it podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:03 From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
Starting point is 00:41:19 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor it.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to. Listen and learn the hard way on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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