The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Kyle Van Noy

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

2-time Super Bowl champion Kyle Van Noy joins the show in studio to talk about the various free agent signings around the league and playing with Lamar JacksonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A Kyle Van Nuoy, 11 years, a two-time Super Bowl champ, both for the Patriots. So this is interesting. Let's start with this. Do you watch, Kyle, do you watch Free Agency? I mean, the first thing I'm going to say is yes, because we saw Jamar and T. Higgins, what they just got, right? They're in our division. We have to watch that.

I mean, that's amazing that they got those deals done up there. And at the amount that they did, they went all in on offense. So it was pretty crazy for a team to do it. But I'm happy for them. I got to spend some time with Jamar Chase at the Pro Bowl and Joe Burrow. Yeah. Two very extraordinary young men in this game that are just going to grow even more. Just two really good dudes at what they do with their craft.

and so I'm happy for them to get their money, but not happy when we have to play them twice a year. Well, it's interesting because I talked to you a year ago. I think it was before you signed with the Ravens. You ended up, 12 and a half sacks, made your first Pro Bowl. Let's go. So it's interesting. That's not the way it usually works.

No. If you get older, yet you, so I'm going to say some of this, obviously a lot to you, but some of it had to be fit. Yeah. Was it? Yeah, I think a little bit. about fit but I also more think it's about mindset my mindset's different I believe that every day when I wake up it's different it's kind of our family

model with my wife and I we're just built different and that's the attitude that I brought into that building I felt that I was a little disrespected by not getting any offers during that off season I feel like I perform at a high level my entire career and then for nobody want to come after me I was like man just because I'm I turned over third you're going to say, oh, he's old now, he's washed. But then when I got on the football field, it was the right fit. Chuck Smith, Coach Harbaugh, really, really just kind of let me do my thing,

really put that leadership role on me, and I was able to not think with Mike Mack, and now I don't have to think with Zachary Orr. They do a really good job that put me in positions to succeed, and I've really taken off. I play with a bunch of really good players like Roquan Smith, Kyle Hamilton, Namdi, Matabee, and then Adafelay Owe. And we just do our thing together, and I'm really grateful to be with the group. The core group that they have is something I haven't been around in the league, to be honest,

and they're special. Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry, Tyler Lindembaum. Did you know, special? Did you know in camp when you guys acquired Derek Henry, could you tell in camp, oh, this is going to be a load? I don't know if I want to say. that, Colin, but I thought they were going to be really good. I thought the way that they were operating, the way that the offensive coordinator was calling plays during fall camp, you knew

it was going to be a work in progress, right? We saw the first game where people were a little unhappy against Kansas City at the time, but then it like took off from there and we really relied on both of them. And one thing I'll say about that duo is it was the first time I believe that they both played with superstars and they elevated each other because they knew they didn't have to do everything, but at the same time when it was their time to shine,

they took it up another level. And so that's something that I watched during the season and was awesome. The leadership that Derek Henry brings, the attitude he brings is exceptional. It exudes through the entire building. Everybody, you know, likes to be around those two. And Lamar Jackson

is the best teammate. He hangs out with everybody. He does. He knows everybody. name. He's a joy to be in the locker room. We know you talk very highly of them and I'm sure he appreciates that. You're one of his big cheerleaders in the media, even though he's had, you know, his downs in the playoffs. But I think that's part of his journey. I think that's part of the struggle that he's had just a little bit. I also think it's going to propel him. And the Lamar Jackson that I know that I see every day, it's going to fuel him and get him better and better and better. We haven't even see, we've seen

just a little bit. I think he's got a whole other level to go. Yeah, I've said this. There's a lot of quarterbacks in the league. There's not a single quarterback that defines the city and the team like Lamar. Like, I love Mahomes, but that's as much Andy Reid as anybody. Yeah, you could make that argument, yeah.

Yeah, I would, and by the way, I love Josh Allen and Joe Burrell, I honestly feel if I would have picked a culture and a city for Lamar Jackson to plan, it would have been always overlooked, often disrespected, tough gritty Baltimore. Yeah.

It's just, it's weird. It's like he, and you played with, you've played with great quarterbacks, that the fact that he knows everybody's name, that's kind of a Brady thing. Yeah, it is. I mean, Tom was the first person that I met when I got traded to New England, came up to me, shook my hand and said, my name's Tom Brady, and I wanted to be like, you idiot. I know who you are.

Tom's great. He's a great team of yours now at Fox, doing a great job. speaking at games. I do think Lamar has that. I also think he has a different aura as well because of the play he has. He has that highlight, real play. So it's a different, you know, he does Madden plays. Tom, you know, he's the pocket passer, you know, rhythm passer,

does everything great mentally, all that. Lamar can just show up and play. And that's different. Nobody can do that. Only he can do that. And it's so impressive to watch. They're two complete different players. I'm so grateful that I got to play with both of them because Tommy Boy gave me two rings.

So I'm forever grateful to Big Bro. So it's funny. So I just love The Ravens so much. A funny story that, and I never, I don't like calling teams for free tickets. It's not my thing. I don't want to owe anybody anything. I got that from my mom. So I called the Ravens.

And my daughter was in Baltimore. And I said, oh, God. So I called the Ravens. I said, I'll pay four. I don't like asking for tickets. They're like, it's fine. And they sat my daughter right next to Joe Burroughs parents. Thank God I'd been nice to Joe Burroughs. But it's such a class organization. What is it about Harbaugh? The Secret Sauce, like he's kind of a man's man. Like when I look at John, it's always like, if you do your job, he will treat you. He just expects you to be a pro. Yep. You know, I want to start where you just went with the organization. Mr. Bouchardie. Yeah. Amazing owner. One of the best I've been around, top down, loves football, wants the team to win, but he pours money into the organization.

He gives everybody, you know, that A1 treatment. It doesn't matter who you are in the building. He does a phenomenal job. So I do have to commend him for that. And I'm glad you had a great experience with him. but it starts with him. And then with John Harbaugh, I just believe for him, what separates him is his relationships to players. He truly cares about what you think and how you see things. And he literally goes up to anybody and will ask.

And he takes tidbits from everybody and he puts it into his program. He doesn't just focus on, you know, his way or the highway. He adjusts. That's why he's lasted so long. It's an adapter die mentality. If you stay the same for so long, you're not going to improve. You're not going to get better. You're not going to keep this excellence.

That's what I see the difference between him is that mentality to always get better each and every year and the trust that he has with his players and the relationship. He's a relationship guy. He's a tough guy. He likes to get after it in the wait room himself every single day at 5 o'clock. He's in that wait room. And that's the kind of attitude he has without the same day. as that standard for everybody, that standard of excellence.

You know, we're going into an NFL draft. And one of the things about football, Matt Slater's a guy you played with the New England, like 19 years or something in the NFL. So much of what you bring when I listen to you talk is about professionalism. Okay? And if you could sit down with young football players and just say, listen, I'm going to give you two things about professionalism. Pro football.

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I'm a linebacker. I'm from Texas A&M. That's four star. What would be the two things you'd say, okay, young man, here's the difference with pro football. Oh, man. Listen, you don't know. everything. And two, put your head down and work. And I mean, work smart and hard. Those are the two things I would say. I would say, listen to your OGs, listen to what's happening around, scope it out,

and work hard. Put your head down and work and work smartly. And you put those two together, I think you'll be really successful. I think too many guys come in with the mindset they know it all, which some of them do know a lot. But I think there are some players that have played a really long time. There's coaches that I've coached a really long time. So you should listen. You should listen to the players. You should see how professional players.

This guy works. This guy, how he handles his business. And then the smart work of, you've already put in the work to get here. Continue to do that, but add stuff to that. That's where that smart comes in. Add this to your game. Okay, that guy's doing a little. extra work. I'm going to put that into my game. That guy's on the jugs a little bit more.

I'm going to put that in my game. Something that Julian Edelman did was he paid a equipment guy at our facility in New England, and he would pay him every year to shoot extra jugs at him, and he would catch so many balls each and every day. I know Zay Flowers does the same thing in Baltimore. So there's different nuggets that you can see if you just watch. Something I picked up when I was a professional as a rookie was Calvin Johnson, an amazing superstar receiver. He did conditioning in the morning. And so my ass did conditioning in the morning. Him coach Caldwell myself. I just watched. I didn't do, I didn't play as much as I did, but I knew that once I did with the preparation that I had, learning from Calvin Johnson,

learning from Rishin Mathis, the study he did, the Glover Quinn's asking all the questions that he did over the years I knew when I was going to get my shot, I knew I was going to be ready. And I think just being able to listen, just being able to put that head down and work and work smartly helped me become the professional that I am today. As you get older, again, you're a pro bowler, 12 and a half sacks. Let's say it's November. You're in week 10, 11. You're banged up. You have a little bit of a semi-high ankle sprain.

You have a bye week or I already had it? Nope. Already had it. Hey, bummer. And you're, you can play, but you're dinged up. Have you found your diet has changed since your rookie year? Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that.

So what do you do? Let's talk in season, because we all know by Thanksgiving, everybody's beat up. Yeah. And it's not like just, I'm a little tired. It's, I hurt in multiple places. Yeah. How has it changed your diet and prep? That's a really good question.

I think it's funny. I even change it in the off season. For example, I heard you being. a big health guy earlier, magnesium. That's awesome for you. Something I just did was a 72-hour water fast. I didn't eat for 72 hours. I just did straight water just to get my system flushed out and just feel good.

And it was hard for the first two days. And then that third day was like clarity. It was like spiritual experience. It was amazing. But it was just a reset on my body just to get all the gunk that I had. I went to a family vacation in Maui. I ate very good, but I wanted to reset to get ready for this season. And I literally start from the ground up, just like I did with my body.

I work with my feet and go all the way up to my head. And I do the same thing with my diet. I start from the ground of, you know, doing this 72-hour water fast. And then it's like, okay, we're on this eating healthy path. And it's a lot of meat and vegetables. That's basically I don't like to do carbs until the day of the game. because that helps you fuel you, but I really stay away from carbs during the season

to feel good, feel light, and then during, before the game, I'll put it on a couple extra pounds to get it going. Is there a team in the league that you just can't hide your disdain for them? Like you just... Oh, they know it. Those teams know it.

They know the Buffalo Bills. They know I played them all those years. Dion Dawkins, Josh Allen. They know. You play them angry. Yeah, I mean, Patrick Mahomes, he knows, him and Travis Kelsey. And then recently it's been the Steelers. And I don't think it's more so the Steelers players.

They're relatively good. A couple of them. But it's been more of the coaches. Like, it's stuff on the sideline that no one gets to see that the Mike Dubs haven't picked up. The coaches. Trash talking? Yeah. Yeah.

Especially, like, it's a. competitive game, right? And I love trash talking, but all those games have been close. It hasn't been like, we've beat, we've whipped you or, you know, those games are always close. Yeah, the new phrase is people say belt to ass. Like, that's kind of the new phrase, but that's when someone gets really beat, right? And for us, like, they've been in competitive games. I feel like it hasn't been Tomlin. It's been the other coaches around have been kind of talking a little trash. And so the disdain's getting back with that pitch. Ravens rivalry. I feel like it wasn't there. When I first got to the Ravens, it's been

mostly the Cincinnati Bengals in us. And I feel like it's going back to that Ravens Steelers rivalry that we've been so accustomed to. Who is, and it could be one of your teammates, in all the years in the NFL, could be Logan Mankins. I don't know. What is there an offensive lineman that's coming around the corner and you know it is, it is two hours in the gym. Like somebody that you have so much respect for. Even the night before, you're like on that trap play. Yeah. It's funny you say this.

It's actually a member of the soon-to-be Hall of Fame should be from the Ravens and Ring of Honor for the Ravens. Marshall Yonda. Marshall Yonda. Me and Hightower would talk about them. Because back when we were playing in New England, we played open B-GAPs, which means you get an end and then you get a end. and then you get a no traditional nose guard

and then there's an open B gap which is the guard and then it's you so it's one on one with Marshall Yonda it's about you're about to have a long day with him that was somebody that I always respected hands physicality yeah he was physical and strong and he wasn't afraid of nobody like you had to come you had to bring it every play and playing against him

and Ossemile when he was with the Raiders with Gabe Jackson when they had an older Marshaun Lynch. Yeah, Ossemly, who also played for the Ravens. He was so strong. Oh, just mean. You had to like tell him, hey, you're playing great this season. Yeah, you're playing so good. You know, just take it easy on this play.

That's when you respect the guy. Yeah, those two players I had a lot of respect for. And then Zach Martin played him in, it wasn't a, physical standpoint that you were you were like it's going to be a long day but it was more of he's a great football player he's going to be ready to go he knows what he's doing and he's fast and he's strong and he's not overpowering you he's just quick he's kind of technician technician just like jason kelsey was just like alex mac was i remember getting ready for him for the Super Bowl back in 2016

and New England and how fast he was able to climb up on the backers to run and like cut them off on his cut blocks and those guys not necessarily like a little brute force but those guys technician wise those three were really really good at their craft by the way it should be noted that the two most

physical guys you mentioned played for the Ravens that has always been their culture harbos love tough guys Yes. He does. That guy that's the toughness guy for us, the two guys that jump off is Travis Jones and Nomdi Matabike. Those two are a force in the interior D-line. They're up and coming. Their ability, their arrow is pointing very, very up of both their careers.

What a pleasure to see you again, man. Yeah, thanks for having me. I love being here. I love watching you and doing your thing. L.A. is going to miss you. So appreciate you doing everything that you've done in not just this community. I know you're here still for a while. I know you're going to Chicago, but we appreciate you.

By the way, BYU is the number six seed. Let's go. They shoot a lot of threes. They should have been higher, but, you know, SEC, they got to get their glory right. But the thing about Brigham that I'm going to say is you better watch out. They shoe a lot of threes. They make a lot of threes. Your buddies with Jimmer.

I am buddy with Jimmer. Jimmer. You know, he led us almost to the promise land. did a really, really good job. I think we have another phenomenal player in Richie Saunders, who was all Big 12 this year. Just an underrated Big 12. I know you weren't necessarily

hot on Arizona, but I feel like... I haven't gone to the final four. Oh, you do. You were hot. I apologize. They're by Dark Horse. Yes. Caleb Love, very, very good. The center baser is... Yes. Yes. He was nothing early. He's played well now. Correct. They're very good. I like Texas

Tech. They're tough. That's his dark course. Great pick. Houston. If they can shoot it well, I'm very high on them. That's a big if, though, because they do play defense. They do play phenomenal defense. They like Michigan State. Not a lot of shooters. Yes, but they're coming alive in the Big 12 tournament.

They shot really, really well. I'm very excited to see what the Big 12 does. I feel like they've been underrated, just like their football programs were during the bowl season. I think they're going to do the same thing in this tournament. I really, really like the Big 12, the teams that they have. They're tough. They're physical. They play that style.

The referees let them play down there. But BYU, their shooting ability. If they get hot, I'd be scared if I'm anybody in the tournament because they're putting up 90 points. And you're like, well, I got to guard this guy, but this guy over here can shoot. And I really want to put a lot of pressure on Igor Demmon. I know he's a freshman, but he's not a freshman anymore. Don't they have some great recruit coming next year? Yes, they do.

AJ, number one basketball player in the country. I'm not positive. I think he was from Boston, Boston area. And he chose BYU. Yes. Is he LDS? I don't believe he's LDS, but he might as well be, right? Why not?

That checks LDS. No, I'm just kidding. But I think it's phenomenal. I think it's going through all the sports there at BYU. I think it's been a shift in guard. Well, they've always had money. They have. It's secretly they've had a lot of money.

Yes, they do. But it's not even the church is dimming out. I think the donors and the boosters are the one providing all the money. When you have a guy that owns the Utah Jazz and Ryan Smith, you have Danny Aange, who's also happened with Utah Jazz when they're heavily involved. I just played with the number one, one of the top golfer recruits the other day. Kihei, he was getting offers from Alabama and Oklahoma State. He ended up choosing, chose BYU to stay close to home, but because of that group of boosters and donors that are bringing

in not only money, but that respect of, hey, I can help you get to that next level. That's who you want to be with. I'm starting to get it involved a little bit more. I would like to kind of not be all the way in like Steph Curry is, but be able to to help young men be able to say, hey, if you do those things, you can be a pro and get to that next level. I think that's awesome what Steph Curry is doing with his former college. Yes. Kyle Van Nell, great to see you, buddy. Yeah, good to see you. As always. Herdline News next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, Steve Kavino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

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So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing.

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And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay.

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Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. All right, Colin. Let's get started with Shadur Sanders and Deonson. Everybody loves these two guys. You know, they're both, but obviously Shadour's probably going to go in the top five. He's the most famous player and most discussed in the draft. His dad, Vion, says that's not an issue at all.

Shador is a workerhole. You guys know that. He is who he is. And sometimes people forget what he's accomplished here at C.U. And how accurate and how good he is because you got to take a shot at somebody. And you might as well take a shot as a Sanders. We built for this. Oh, yeah. Huh? How about that? We're built for this. Is he? Is he built to go to the Cleveland Browns? The factory of sadness. That's what they call that place? Is he built for that? Yeah, actually. Not everybody is. We had no run game and a bad O-line at Colorado for two years. I think he is built for it.

Baker Mayfield was a career underdog. Went to Cleveland, made the playoffs. They ran him out of town. Like, I'm just telling you, Cleveland is a brutal place to work. Well, Baker started some of those fires. Come on, let's be fair. Also true, yeah.

Is he built to lose with the New York Giants? Or go through a coaching change after one year? Well, I mean, Colorado didn't win big. It's not like he was winning big. He's not. He's been with his dad, by the way, since college. Actually, dating back to high school, I believe. I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, he's been with his dad the whole time, and now it's like... Run alone, Dion. Well, maybe he's tired of his dad. Huh? Maybe he's tired of it. Maybe he's like, hey, I want to play for somebody else but dad. I'm not saying, that's not a shot at Dion. I mean, I think when your dad's Dion Sanders, you can handle the spotlight.

I think he's going to be fine. Why aren't we saying this stuff about Cam Ward? Is he built for Tennessee? Why are we saying? Whoa. He is built for Tennessee. Tennessee. They need him. The only one getting criticized is Shadur.

Nobody's criticizing Cam Ward. Why is that? Well, Cam's a more explosive, dynamic athlete, so he looks like the obvious number one. Nobody's doubting that. But we don't know. I mean, remember we had Jeff Schwartz on earlier last week, and he talked about Cam Ward, and he's like, you know, he hasn't played from the pocket much. Like, it's going to be, now, Shadur is a classic pocket quarterback who played with no run

game at Colorado. I think Shadur is built for the NFL. Super accurate. All right, let's move on to Micah Parsons, Colin. He's eligible for a contract extension. Dallas keeps dragging their feet, man. This is just getting embarrassing. So yesterday we had Derek Stainley reset the cornerback market.

A day after the Bengals made Jamar Chase the highest paid non-QB in the NFL. Miles Garrett also has a new deal. And Parsons could surpass all of them, Colin. What is Dallas waiting for? I don't even know where to go at this point. Like, what could Jerry possibly be thinking? What's the thought process to why wait? Well, CD, I mean, you have to pay a quarterback, and CD is the better player.

Maybe he's just waiting. Do you think he's tinkering with the idea of trading Micah Parsons before the drafts and getting like a top five pick? I think that's one of the three or four things that's being considered. I think with Micah Parsons, they want to see how the draft goes. I think, you know, people get crazy on draft night. All of a sudden somebody calls and says, we'll give you a first for Micah Parsons at number 11, and Genties available.

Hold on. Let's back on. Let's say the Browns do something crazy and don't take Chador Sanders, too. And the Giants are on the clock at three. Do they take Chador or would they want Micah Parsons possible? I don't know. Would anybody in the top of one? Well, they need a quarterback. Use another team.

New England. New England's like, well, we don't. We don't need a quarterback. We have our quarterback. We just sign our defensive tackle. We've got our corners. If Chatur falls, I mean, I guess the Giants are letting. What if Mike Brable's, like, right before the drafts,

because I can take Travis Hunter, or I can actually get Micah Parsons. I'll give you Michael Parsons for a first number one pick. Because. Because. Because we just can afford Michael Parsons. The next three years, Drake Mays is, like, on pennies, on the rookie deal. I wonder if he's cooking up a trade. I think it's one of the three or four things they're considering.

And while they consider it. or everybody else gets paid? I could see Jerry Jones saying, listen, we need another, it's a really good tight end draft, and all of a sudden, let's say the Jets get to number seven, and Jerry calls and says,

Aaron Glenn, you love defense. We'll give you Micah Parsons. You give us the seven pick, and they take Darren Waller to the tight-end Penn State. Tyler Warren, yeah. Tyler Ward, my bye. And all of a sudden, D.L.

says C.D. Lamb, the best tied-in in the draft. Dack Prescott, O-line's getting better, and we get a running back. How's the old line getting better? Well, I mean, they were young last year. We got some work together. Would you do that?

If you were the jet. Well, we said this like seven months ago. Think about trading Michael Parsons. But now, I mean, I think you're limited with your options now because you've waited so damn. What is Jerry Jones doing? Do you have a line to him, by the way? No. That's disappointing.

I thought you were super connected in the NFL. You can't get Jerry Jones on the horn? The Cowboys are the, if you're not, last name isn't Jones, you're not connected. He's not taking your calls. All right, final story, Colin, a little skirmish in the NBA last night. As you're watching on the screen, look at the elbows flying basketball being thrown. Andrew Nemhard and Rudy Gobert got into it. Your typical NBA shoving match.

Look at that. He just hit Conley with the elbow and then Gobert's seen enough. And Nemhard said, you want some of this? And Gobert is like, you know, towering over him. Look at that. That's a shoulder to face. I like this. Look at Colbert getting high-fives on his team.

You got to defend your teammates. Anybody give you a cheap foul? I'd go over there. You're coming in? Oh, you got my back. I'd say, I don't have to do cheap shots on J-Mack. You know, people don't know this, but when we hang out sometimes, people will keep coming up to cowherd, and I've got to kind of... Bodyguard.

I got to stick the chest out a little bit. Like, hey, stand back. Let's settle down, super fan boy. By the way, the Pacers went off in overtime. Obie Topping hit a bunch of threes. And Pacers are sneaky in the East Collins. They got talent. I said they were potentially Easter Conference.

Well, I mean, Pacers are kind of a fun watch. I like watching them. I didn't tell on a team. I did not see Cleveland coming. Did you? I didn't see this. Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't see it.

I didn't think they'd be this good. But the last two years, we know they have a bunch of talent. They're all, you know, like Evan Mowbly. Keeps getting better every time you see him. I'm not shocked Cleveland's pretty good. There's like seven games up on the Celtics. I contend that Oklahoma City is last year's Cleveland. We're a little ahead of ourselves.

They need another year of growth before they can go on the road and win big playoff games. Yeah, you keep telling me. me. I need another year of growth. You do, too. Believe me. You are, you are your Cleveland two years ago. A lot of sizzle. Not law of state. I love to just lot of chatter. First round

exit. Oh, damn. Who am I, Kentucky? Ouch. Uh, Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Kyle Van Noy, Adam Wainwright, Nick Wright. Okay, we have JMAX's update. picks for the final four. So this is, this is, this is JMAX actual bracket. Oh, look at that.

You got Auburn suddenly in. It's almost like you listen to Uncle Colin. Now listen, people are going to get the screen grab and be like, look at this chalky clown again. This is for the contest head to head. You and me. Yeah. Mono e-mono. So you went Auburn as well. Now, who do you have winning? Bro, St. Johns is probably going down second round to Kansas, just FYI. I have Duke winning at all. Duke over Florida, the two best teams of the country. Arizona's going to just ruin you. Tennessee is interesting. I'm looking at their bracket. It's manageable. Well, Rick Barnes and Big Games were he's... We need to make this interesting.

We should open it up for the audience to come up with, loser does what? No, don't leave it to the audience. I wouldn't even leave it to our producers. I don't trust them. I'll lose out of a zany. I'll be jumping out of a plane or something. Have you ever done that, by the way? No, God. No, my son has. I never would do it. Would you bungee jump?

I've done that before. I'm not going to do it again. But, yeah, I'm not jumping out of a plane. But I bungee jumped off a bridge. You should see what my daughter did in South America. Not off a plane, but off a bridge. Okay. Maybe I'll get another tattoo or something, we'll say.

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