The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - LeBron James' future

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

Colin gives the best destinations for LeBron James if he chooses to leave the Lakers   Guest: Mark SchlerethSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, I was saying this, the Russell Wilson thing looked like literally, I'm reading these stories a year ago. It's like, it's the end of the franchise. And I'm like, I don't know. It sounds like you're connected to the organization. It sounds like they wanted Bow Nicks. Like, that was the guy they wanted. What do you make of that? Yeah, I think when you look at it, you know, I mean, I know you're not going to get Caleb Williams, right?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Right. But I think the next guy, and this is not one of those, this always drives me crazy about the draft. You know, and this is why the same teams are always drafting the top 10 every year. Pick a quarterback, any quarterback. Pick a receiver any quarterback. Doesn't matter which one, just any of them. They're all the same. Well, they're not all the same.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And I think they did their due diligence. One of the reasons they worked out a guy like Caleb Williams. One of the reasons they met with guys like J.J.N. Daniels. One of the reasons they went and saw Drake May was to compare what we want, what we're looking for, and does our guy, Bo Nix, give us that. So I think there's no question that the due diligence was done and that that Bo Nix was the guy that felt like, hey man, he's quick release and he gets the ball out on time. And I always say, you know, accuracy and timing. And I will tell you, you can't be accurate in the National Football League without being on time.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So being on time and accuracy go hand in hand. If you're late with the football, you won't be accurate with the football. It just doesn't work. It's like a pitcher. You know, everything's got to be in sync. there's a kinetic chain that goes into throwing the football. So this is the guy that to me was the most on time and the most accurate in college football.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And then I hear the, you know, he doesn't have a big arm. Who gives a rip doesn't have a big arm? When was the last time you saw somebody throw it 67 yards for a touchdown in the air? It doesn't, you don't have time to do it. It doesn't happen in the NFL. By the way, every deep ball, every go ball that is thrown in the NFL comes off. of five-step drop timing with no hitches, meaning that ball is out. As an offensive lineman, I always used to listen for it.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Like what route combination was the timing of that throw? Because that five-yard, or that five-step drop that's out right now, I can actually treat that like a three-step drop. And that ball is going to come down somewhere between the numbers and the sideline at about 42 to 47 yards. Because if you hold it on a seven-step drop and you run a go-rout, the receivers will outrun the quarterback's arms. The only time you'll see that next season, a 65-70-yard ball in the air that's complete is on a Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:06:30 That's it. So the big arm thing, no, if you've got timing, you're accurate, the big arm thing doesn't matter. The other thing really quick, the Fangio effect. Everybody plays that shell defense now, which really fans you really brought back in the league. Everybody's playing a form of cover three. Everybody's playing that shell defense, which is saying you're not getting over the top of us. We're going to keep two guys deep. So what you're going to have to do is throw it underneath.
Starting point is 00:06:56 That's the whole league. That's the way the league operates. So would you like to have the most accurate, the most on-time football player that there is in the draft of the quarterback position? I would argue this. The guy who's set up to have the best situation, the best fit, of all the quarterbacks drafted, is Bo Nix going to Denver with Sean Payton.
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Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, it's funny. I was just thinking as you were talking about that, Mark, Brady had one deep threat, one great deep threat, his whole career in New England. Moss. It's the only great receiver ever had he didn't win a Super Bowl with it. When they had Welker and Edelman and Dion Branch, and it was. death by a thousand cuts and gronk, you couldn't stop them. They were the best third down team. By the way, the fastest deep threat in the league is Tyreek Hill, and his quarterback doesn't
Starting point is 00:11:27 throw a great deep ball. Kansas City this year, since they let go at Tyreek Hill, they've been a death by a thousand cuts underneath offense, and they've won Super Bowl. So to your point, the deep ball is one of those. It's a very 70s, 80s thing, but not that many teams that are great throw consistently a deep ball. Now, I do want to ask you about this, because, um, the draft, and I think it was due time, really went heavy offense.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I mean, the best pass rusher went to the Colts, middle of the first. Is it swinging too much that way? Like, is an offensive guy, or do you think it's time? Or did you look at that draft and go, okay, this is crazy town? There's all these good defensive players. They're just sitting there on the board. Yeah, I think it's one. All the rules are bent towards being a great offense.
Starting point is 00:12:16 so people are going after the offensive players. But I will tell you, like again, you're drafting quarterbacks who are probably rated, you've got them rated on a scale at 1 to 10, you've got a quarterback at a 7.2, and you're picking him over a defensive player that you have rated as a 9.8. That is crazy town to me,
Starting point is 00:12:35 because I think football players are the most important thing to have on your roster, really good football players. And I love Jim Harbaugh's comments about offensive linemen or weapons is the tip of the spear. Like there is like the offensive line doesn't need the receiving core for the offensive line to be good. The quarterback, the offensive line doesn't need the quarterback to be good for them to be good
Starting point is 00:12:59 or the running back core to be good for the offensive line to be good. But every other position in football needs the offensive line to play well. Otherwise receivers can't catch the ball, quarterbacks can't stay upright and running backs can't run the football. And so, yeah, there is a real, there is a real bent toward, and this is a real. why the same teams draft in top 10 every year because they're drafting athletic skill they're drafting hope they're drafting promise they're selling you hope they're selling you promise they're kicking the can down the road they're telling you hey we're one receiver away from being a super bowl contender there's never been a team one receiver away from being a super bowl contender
Starting point is 00:13:36 not one receiver has ever led a team to winning a super bowl it just is not the way the league works but that's what they're selling so your team is selling you hope and bottom line is team stinks because they'll be drafting the top 10 next year again and again and again and again because they're not building a football team you know they're building a fantasy football team and fantasy football does not win in the national football league flat out never has never will i thought um what i always do on the monday after the draft i say i can't project your entire draft class but if i take your free agent signings and your top two picks maybe your top three i'm pretty good on those. And I thought Chicago fundamentally changed their organization. Keenan Allen,
Starting point is 00:14:20 Caleb Williams, Roma Dundze, Gerald Everett, DeAndre Swift, these are really productive NFL players. And my entire life, Chicago's always had their best players on defense. It's just funny. When you think bears, I just think defense. When I think Washington, I think Joe Gibbs O'Line. You know, when I think when I think McVeigh and the Rams, I think clever. I think smart culture. You know, I think of Shanahan's offense. There are certain things in this league. They're just imperative, intuitive. They are what they are.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And I felt like, oh, the Chicago Bears, we'll look back in 20 years, this will be the draft class. That's how it felt to me. Am I nuts and over the top? No, I don't think you're nuts. I mean, we don't know what Caleb Williams is going to be, Adunze, as you mentioned, we're not sure about that. I thought what they did getting DJ Moore a year ago. and then going out and getting a Keenan Allen was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I looked at it and you've got a tight end in Komet that I think could really play. You went out and got the running back that I think is really good. I don't know that you needed to invest in another wide receiver when they were top offensive linemen that were sitting there for you to take. So I probably would have gone in a different direction there. But yeah, it looks that way. I love Shane Waldron. We didn't talk about that addition, but as an offensive coordinator, But one of the things that resonates me and resonates with me,
Starting point is 00:15:47 and think about the first four quarterbacks taken in this draft, they all went to defensive head coaches. And one thing about that, and Steve Young, you and I used to work at ESPN, and Steve Young used to say this all the time, that defensive coaches, oftentimes because they're worried about the defense and they're trying to protect the defense aren't the best place for a young, offensive quarterback to develop. And it's just interesting to me that all three of these quarterbacks, or all four of these
Starting point is 00:16:22 quarterbacks, went to a defensive head coach. And it'll be interested to see exactly how those guys develop, you know, from that perspective, because as you know, defensive-minded head coaches, you know, they're going to err on the side of conservatism most of the time. They're going to run the football. They're going to make sure that they protect their defense in certain situations because, you know, they've got a vested interest being defensive coaches to protect that defense. So it'll be really interesting to see exactly the development of these guys and how they end up.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But, you know, on the surface on paper, I love what Chicago did. Like I said, at number nine, I probably would have gone with a prominent offensive lineman, but that's me. That's what I think wins. But as I always say, if the games were played on paper, I'd have spent a lot less time on an operating table. They're not. They're real. and you know you've got to win lines of scrimmage you're going to win in the national football league
Starting point is 00:17:16 Fox Sports Mark Schlerath good seeing you buddy you too both take care man have a good summer yeah I'm rooting for Sean Payton I have no problem acknowledging I'm rooting for Sean Payton I know him I like him I think the league's better when you have these clever offensive coaches that have the quarterback so McVe's got his stafford and you got uh you know Minnesota and San Francisco really good offensive coaches I like the offense the Andy Reid's got my homes obviously. Now Herbert has Jim Harbaugh power
Starting point is 00:17:44 offensive coach. Leagues better when you have great quarterbacks and they have smart offensive guys around him. So Peyton and Bo next to me, do we have another Peyton Breeze? It was pretty good for the league. That was a pretty good fun team to watch for a decade. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's start with the Lakers. There's some Darwin Ham's stuff to sift through here, all right? So, when asked about the ever-changing lineups this season, Darwin Ham dropped this nugget saying it's amazing how people just skip that core part of having consistency with your lineup is all predicated on health and performance.
Starting point is 00:18:25 If you're coaching a team and one of your starters is like 10 games in a row just pooping the bed, what are you going to do? Now, there is no video of this weirdly. Just the audio, they've written it down. By the way, is he wrong? What starters are you talking about? That's the real question. Everybody wants to know who's he calling out.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Well, I mean, Dilo got benched. Well, wait. In the regular season, Delo was awesome. Want to know, Dilo got benched. Didn't he get benched? Then in December, they put him back out. So you start the season, and Dilo gets benched because he's awful. Some people think it's Rui Hachimura.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Well, Rui Hachamora had a lot of vanishing acts. So Rui Yashamora. Reeves is limited, so I don't blame him. The Reeves slander just continues. Rotation guy. He obviously is not LeBron or AD. We know that. He's basically saying.
Starting point is 00:19:10 saying, you know, guys disappear. By the way, the other night, Rui played really well. It's amazing how good the Lakers were against Denver. He's an important part. When he vanishes, when DeLo vanishes, nothing he's saying, I love the idea. I've never seen, like in the NFL, sometimes reporters will defend a coach.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Where are the reporters in the NBA ever defending a coach? It's always blamed the coach for everything. I mean, I saw great average baseball managers have butchered things, and you'll get the baseball writers, they'll support a manager. NFL coaches make big mistakes. You'll support a coach. The minute a coach loses a playoff series, the players agents leak stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's what happens. It's all players agents leaking stuff because they want Darwin Ham out. So, you know, the – Not wrong on all these complaints. You're not totally wrong. So we've talked about this like team building, the Mexican soccer team that I'm a minority owner in. They were in the news this week, good stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Okay, so the coaches historically, don't want to play the young guys. They know job security's everything. I want to try it out the equivalent of a Torian... That happens in all sports. And Darvinham kept driving home these veterans. Like, in the preseason, all we heard was Max Christie's a breakout player. Young kid,
Starting point is 00:20:22 he's got some pop, some juice. He just buries Max Christie on the bench. You've got to play the young guys. Okay, so let me defend him. Steve Kerr wouldn't play Wiseman, wouldn't play Cominga. Steve Kerr, one of the best coaches ever. He wouldn't play young guys. Where are the Warriors now? Well, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:20:38 But once you get four or five rings, you know, you win the argument. But Steve Kerr doesn't love to play young guys. He doesn't trust him with Steph and Clay and Draymond on the floor. But how are they going to develop? You know what? That's what the summer league. By the way, it's, I mean, let's just personalize this. Should people be learning how to be directors on our show?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Hopefully you've had previous jobs you've directed. I mean, again, I'm all for growing growth for all employees. But if you've got a game Sunday in the NFL and Patrick Mahal is like, I need protection. You know, this guy's not very good at left guard, but, you know, we need him to be good by December. He's kind of a backup. I got to win Sunday.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Okay, fine, get him in there. You know what? The West is so loaded. Darwin Ham's like, I'm going to play my guys that can win games. I need to play my best. But we're not Denver where we're going to coast into the playoffs. Fine. So you don't throw the young producer onto a football season Friday,
Starting point is 00:21:31 which is going to be a massive show. Maybe you put them on a day where there's less happening, right? Just as you would. Hey, you know what? Let's start Max. Christie on this off night against the beat-up Portland Trailblazers. Let's just, let's see what he's got. Let's put him in there, get him some chemistry with LeBron and AD.
Starting point is 00:21:45 If you don't play the young guys, you're going to school. The Lakers weren't good enough to just roll out Max Christie and then go on the road and win. The Western Conference is ridiculous. Never forget, the playing teams were Golden State in the Lakers. I mean, those were like playing teams. So it's like in the East, you got a lot of those games in the East. You've got a lot of Wizard games in the East where you can roll out blank and blank number eight guy.
Starting point is 00:22:09 By the way, for Patrick Mahomes getting his young guard to reps, you know what? It's 31-0 against the Bears. Let's get that guy out there in the third quarter, not get Mahomes killed. Let's just call some running plays, get the guy some reps. If you don't play the young guys, the long-term outlook is not going to be pretty, Colin. I don't know. You got, you NBA, the Sixers, the Bucks and the Lakers, each had three head coasts, each one in the last six years. Is that, is it working?
Starting point is 00:22:35 continuity matters it does you know who doesn't fire their coach the warriors and the heat they don't fire their coach I remember it may have been I could be misremembering but it was like last year everybody wanted tibbs out
Starting point is 00:22:51 was it last year the year everybody was banging on tibs and it's funny when I watch the Knicks I'm like boy they're well coached the answer's not just rolling out coached I mean the Sixers are just running through coaches the Bucks are in through him. How's the Doc Rivers thing working out?
Starting point is 00:23:08 I thought Nick Nurse was going to get fired during the 18-2 run last night. He's just standing there with his hands on his hips. Nick's are going off, anyway. Next up, New England Patriots. So this is the Drake May stuff that is going to be an issue all season. Remember, they got calls for the third overall picked,
Starting point is 00:23:23 elected to stay put. According to reports, there was a feeling in the Patriots building that there were legacies tied to the decision on who to draft before settling on Drake, after Caleb and James came off the board. Legacies.
Starting point is 00:23:39 What do you mean? Whose legacy? Brady and Belichick are gone. Who's legacy? Well, the new regime. They feel like they can build a new legacy around Drake May. Could we trade for them and get more guys? Sure.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Drake May could be the future of the organization. Yeah, I mean, I thought New England could do either. Even if they would have traded back to 11, they could have traded back up to 8 and gotten somebody potentially. So I, there's a lot of arguments the way New England did it. I don't have a problem. I said, I don't have a problem if they take a quarterback. I don't have a problem if they go back to 11 with Minnesota
Starting point is 00:24:10 and then go back up to 9 to get a quarterback because we knew there was going to be a bunch of guys. Yeah, I mean, I think, Gerard Mayo didn't have a legacy. He's just starting. Exactly. He could be fired two years if it doesn't work out. I will say this, though. I will defend New England.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I like their draft. Go back. I don't have it in front of me. Go back 10 years. The last time New England went and got this many. offensive players. Oh, we do have it here on the script. I mean, again, I watch college football.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Jalen Polk is excellent. Drake May could be. Guards, tackles, receivers. I don't know why they drafted Joe Milton, but they don't have a backup quarterback or a backup, you know, Bailey Zappy may be on his way out. Milton's got a big guard. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But the point is they went to the right side of the ball. For the first time, and I couldn't tell you when. I mean, last year, when Belichick ran the draft, last year, they had the slowest receiving according the league, we acknowledge this. Their first three picks were like corner, he's a good player, got hurt, a defensive lineman, linebacker,
Starting point is 00:25:13 and then they drafted two guards and a kicker. Okay. It's like, guys. So here's their weapons, according to pro football focus. They, you know, they break out the depth turn. So it's Kendrick Bourne on one side. He's a three. You got Douglas in the slot and juju on the outside. You got Hunter Henry as your tight end.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I don't even know. Oh, Antonio Gibson came over from Washington. Maybe he'll be your starter. I don't think it's crazy to suggest Debo or Brandon Ayyuk. If you put Brandon Ayuk in that receiving court and now Polk, the young kids, your two or your three, Kendrick Bourne, that's a real receiving court. It's like in a baseball staff. If you got a bunch of number two starters and then you go get an ace, it's amazing what the
Starting point is 00:25:55 staff, it totally everybody moves back one spot in the rotation. It's amazing how good the staff is. I just worry defensive coach, former linebacker who was a Belichick guy, is he going to be ultra-conservative? Let's win with our defense and ride Judon and company. You and I are both the same on this, though. We both root for all these quarterbacks to hit. No, actually, I don't.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You want guys to fail? The problem is, I don't want Drake May in the Jets division to be awesome, because that's going to stink for the Jets. So you're rooting against the young man? I'm rooting against the Patriots. I am. I love Jason Tatum. Can you imagine when you were 22 years old,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and you get a huge break in your career? career. There's no way I can root against a 22-year-old young man who's put in his entire life for this moment and I can root for, I was never rooting against Baker Mayfield. I'm happy Baker got a big contract. It's hard. When I was 23 years old and if I would have fizzled out and had in, you know, quarterbacks, you get one shot. Very rarely there's a second. Baker's on, Baker's on like his third or face. He is, but that's right. Drew Bree's got a second shot. But a lot of times, by Thanksgiving of your second year, I mean, look at, look at Justin Fields. look at Mac Jones.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I mean, they are now six-round pick guys. Nobody's giving them a shot to run the franchise. Even Sam Darnold, you're like, well, that's a... No, he's there for a year for J.J. McCarthy. He's holding down the fort for you. I can't root against... I don't want to make it sound like I'm rooting against Rayleigh. I just don't like the Patriots with every fiber of my being.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I don't like any Boston teams. See, that's where I'm jealous of you. You can easily... Because I think life is better, the more love you have. So wife, kids, you know, love for things. I look at all sports teams as just products. It's fresh produce, I'm a chef. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I don't have that deep love for the Michigan Wolverines. And you have this so deep, this passion, this love. You wake up on a Sunday morning. As you're a 12-point dog to Josh Allen, and you believe you can win. That kind of love is admirable. You love airports, right? Really? I like him a lot. And food?
Starting point is 00:28:06 Love food. It's just, it's similar to sports. Airports. But I'm not delusional of food. I don't look at a banana and think that's a T-Boe. Oh, boy. You look at the Jets and you see the Chiefs. That is like crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But it's so admirable that you love something that much. I'm a lover, not a fighter like you. I'm out there. Final story. Tranky guy. Devante Adams entering his third season with the Raiders. He was traded from the Packers. remember a lot's happened right he was with Aaron Rogers and now Jordan Love is just
Starting point is 00:28:36 dominating uh Devante Adams was asked about his trade and uh about Jordan Love in hindsight like we talked about I mean a kid is a father man I'm so happy for him and you know I haven't really had a chance to truly sit down and talk with it but I just I want to tell him at some point like you know I definitely don't regret changing but I'm super proud of what you've done and um you know if there was a way I could pull you over here and you know and drag you with me Like that, you know, that would have been cool too because, you know, obviously we saw what he did at the end of the year. But I don't regret what I did. But at the same time, it's definitely, you look back on it.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You're like, damn, that boy got a ball. He was good. I don't remember ever seeing a quarterback that from week five to week 15 was a completely different player. Usually there's a gradual ascension. Like Jordan Love was awful in week four. Remember, I mean, like Matt Lafleur, one of the nicest guys in the league would go to the podium. him and be like, yeah, it's not any good. Remember that Raiders?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Was it a Monday night or Sunday night game? He was abysmal. And then, week 15, you're like, oh, he's better than Aaron. So, unfortunately, Crosby is not a seasoned podcast or not a journalist. A better question would have been, hey, you saw Jordan Love basically sitting on the bench for three years. Did they have faith in the guy? Like, what was going on there? Because the bigger story is, remember Patrick Mahomes in Chief's practices before he took over?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Oh, Patrick Boehom's going to be the guy. Jordan Love, remember before the season last year, I think you and I were like, I don't know, if he were any good, wouldn't he have been out here already? Like a lot of questions in the building about Jordan Love, no? Yeah, I mean, I was told by somebody that in the building, he's okay, but it's like, and so, and then he came out, and that's what it looked like. So I looked very right for about a month. Three years in, too. It's not one year on the back. years came out. And then all of a sudden, like, whatever the numbers were, week five to 15,
Starting point is 00:30:38 you're like, oh my God, I thought he was, about Thanksgiving, I'm like, is this a stretch or is this who he is? By the end of the year, I watched him against Dallas. I'm like, no, that's who he is. Like, this is what he is as a player. He is a baller. I mean, it's amazing, though, it's funny in this league. You're banging on Max Crosby. I'm not banging on him. I'm just saying, like he's not. How in the world? Max Crosby to meet T. T.J. Watt, two, best pass rushers in football. How did Max Crosby fall to the fifth round? Like you could argue with Pooka Nakua, it's Stafford, it's McVeigh, and it's Pooka. Max Crosby's just Max. You can't block him. Like Puga Nakua, you can see Andy Reid take players and make him work that they, like Travis
Starting point is 00:31:22 Kelsey's great. He wouldn't be Travis Kelsey in Jacksonville. He'd be really good. He wouldn't be a Hall of Fame first ballot. But Max Crosby, fifth rounder, unblockable in the NFL. He and T.J. Water, unblockable. I mean, Aaron Donald was, first round. Reggie White for Lawrence Taylor. That's to me. When a quarterback or receiver offensive guy hits, and he's a late round guy, a lot of it's the system. I mean, running backs with Kyle Shanahan hit.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Max Crosby's unblockable. They missed on him in high school recruiting? They missed on him in the draft? That's the one, because he's on an island. That's what's amazing to me. Could have been that extra X in his first name. The Mac, M-A-X. It just threw everybody off, like, two X's.
Starting point is 00:32:09 What's going on there? I don't know. Jay McLeod. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. LeBron, where does he fit? Where does the King fit?
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Starting point is 00:36:44 J. Mack. Yeah, come on. Do you think he's moving, possibly? No, but everybody else does. So let's throw it out. You name the team all say good fit, bad fit. All right, how about let's start with an easy one. The Chicago Bulls.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That's a bad fit. MJ Legacy, also, they have a lot. ball dominant guys, DeMar Derozen, Zach Levine, Kobe White, ball dominant, bad fit. How about a third tour of duty with the Cleveland Cavaliers? Bad fit.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Again, they, they, come on. How many times can you run Cleveland back? All right, now this one's a little better, the Golden State Warriors. No, I think it's a great fit. Because Steph can play on or off ball, pods can play off ball,
Starting point is 00:37:25 Draymond can. I think it works. He has familiarity. He's going to the Olympics with Kerr and Curry. I think that's the one that works for me. That is such a fun story. All right, how about this? LeBron with the Los Angeles paper clips, the clippers.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It's a bad fit. They got enough big personalities. He and Westbrook do not get along. They hate each other, so you can't do that. LeBron's staying with the Lakers, good fit? Yeah, I think it works in Los Angeles. I think they're a good team. I don't think they're a championship team,
Starting point is 00:37:52 but, I mean, they led the Nuggets for 70% of the series. His family is in L.A. LeBron is a big market guy. Miami isn't a huge city, but it's a big market in terms of marquee events. He needs to be somewhere like Miami or, you know, L.A. Yeah. Is LeBron a good fit with the Miami Heat? Well, the problem is, I'd say probably because Bam and Jimmy Butler are not three-point shooters.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So personnel-wise, bad fit. I mean, I wouldn't, if they moved the pieces around a ton, you could buy it. But it's probably a bad fit because the roster, and you can't trust Tyler Hero. So, bam, and LeBron is great with three-point shooters. That's what he's great with, and rim protectors. So I don't think the personnel works, but Miami makes a lot of big swings and takes a lot of big swings, so eventually I think Miami could work. Now, this one's interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:44 What about the New York Knicks? It's a bad fit. Do not take the ball to Jalen Brunson's hand. Do not. And LeBron needs the ball, and Jalen Brunson needs the ball. It's a bad fit. LeBron to the Oklahoma City Thunder? Will that fit?
Starting point is 00:38:57 No. bad fit. They got two stars, and they got some big contract. They're going to have to pay SGA and Holmgren. SGA is going to make a lot of money and should. So there's no reason to derail the culture, the chemistry, the team. What they're doing is perfect in OKC. How about the Philadelphia 76ers with Maxie and MB? I kind of think it's a good fit. Because remember, Maxi is a small guard, but he can do off ball. He's a very explosive off ball player, transition player. So with a You've got to keep with LeBron up in transition, and LeBron will get you the ball.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And I think it's time to move off and beat. I do. I'm in the minority. But I think Philadelphia, Lakers, are to where he really fits. And finally, the San Antonio Spurs with Wenbino. They won 22 games. LeBron's not going to go to that. He's just too, honestly, is he too big at this point for San Antonio?
Starting point is 00:39:54 That's a big question. I just don't see him disappearing down there. What about with Wembenyama, though? That's spicy. Wembenyama and what else? I don't have anything else. Devin Vassel, is that wet your beak? I'm nothing against him.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So the ones that work for me, Lakers is a good fit, Warriors a good fit, and Sixers a good fit. The Warriors one, nobody wants to talk about this. It really works completely. Can you play LeBron and Dremont on the court at the same time? Why not? Draymond does all the dirty work. LeBron loves guys that do the dirty work.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But wasn't their weakness again? He loved Kevin Love, banging around on the glass. He loves Anthony Davis. You know, LeBron likes guys that do the dirty work. He likes shooters and somebody that will defend the rim. He wants to be in transition. He wants to handle the ball. People, like Kevin Durant is perfect in the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:40:49 You can get him to ball six seconds on the shot clock. LeBron wants the ball. He's not a period. Now, he had a good year shooting to three. this year. But that's not his history. Kevin Durant, get him the ball, he'll hit it. Got to watch tonight is Paul George. If the Clippers lose, remember he, Kauai has signed with the Clippers. Paul George has not. Oh, no, I would take. A lot of questions. I saw a report that the Orlando Magic think Paul George would fit seamlessly. I would love Paul George the magic. Absolutely
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