The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - LeSean McCoy joins The Herd

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

LeSean McCoy joins the show to talk about his time with the Eagles, how the Jets should handle Aaron Rodgers, and his thoughts on some of the best players not getting paid what they deserveSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the show, LaShaqaunt McCoy, six-time Pro Bowler, 12-year-6 playoffs. It's hard for him because he has friends who are players in the NFL. And J-Max out here throwing fastballs, beanball at Jalen Ramsey and Cam Newton, and

poor you go out and see Jalen Ramsey and Cam, can I tell you about Cam, though? Cam drove me crazy as a player. He was never as good as he thought. But I kind of like him on his podcast. Oh, he's amazing. I like him on his podcast a lot.

MVP Cam, for sure. He's fun. But I want, though, he has that type of personality that he's always had that, right? And I think now you get the hair from my MVP, how he sees the game, right? How he grades players. I like him post football. I think I do, too. And he always was, he kind of just sometimes.

I thought he kind of went into Cam World and it's like, you're quarterbacking a franchise. But, and be that as it may. So, I'm watching Hard Knocks. And it really bothered me when the owner, Mara, is sitting there with a GM and they're talking

about Sequin Barclay. And the Giants' GM's like, I don't know where he's going to land. And I think, if I'm the owner, all I know is this. I don't want him in Philadelphia. That's not the answer. I think Seekwan is going to go from a battle line to an elite, I think he's going to crush this year.

Absolutely. You know what's crazy? So I was with Joe and Buffalo. Yeah. Smart, dude, really, really good. So watching now on the hard knocks is hard for me because some of the things that he's saying and some of the movies he's making, I didn't see that guy in Buffalo, right? I've seen Sean McDermott have a solid team, Brandon Bean, have a solid guys around that

note of game. And when I listen to him talk, it's like they're playing fantasy football. Brian Dayball is one of the best coach. you're going to find. That's why he's that good. That's why it was even a conversation about playing. You know, Brian. Very well. As far as a conversation about even paying a guy like Daniel Jones, any type of money, because he's a real awful

player. But Brian Daybo was so good, he made him look decent, right? Right. And so when I heard the conversation about Seacon, it's like, we really in the world where we're thinking about giving the keys to Daniel Jones and letting our best player, our biggest identity on offense leave, and then potentially go to our rival team.

Eagles and now when you watch Sacon Barkley I'm good friends a lot of them guys over there I mean I did a golf event with Sequin a couple weeks ago we're just talking about the game he was like it's crazy being on the team like the Eagles where everybody's really really good right where he's used to being all the focal point in offense everybody's worried about him now he's on a team where he might not be the best player you got AJ Brown so now I think Seikone's gonna have a crazy year 1700 yards by the way Shady you can't put the safeties in the box can do it eagles come on because they have two deep threats against the giant you

just crowd the box. And then another thing is the quarterback can run, right? That's another thing you got to account for. So I think Seekwan's probably, in my opinion, the most talented running back in football, the most talented. And then we look at a guy like DeAndre Swift, who had an amazing year last year. And then I think that we did upgrade with Seekoine. So imagine what year he's going to have.

I mean, sky's limit for the Eagles this year. I can't wait. Take the audience through this, though. You played with one, two, three, four different offensive lines, well, four teams, multiple. tell me the you don't even have to name names you can if you want what's the difference from a running back's perspective going from the worst old line you played to the best how does the world change for you

oh man who is the best yeah so my eagle my Eagles line when I led the the league in Russian was really really really really good right and we all knew each other like for example okay Jeff Stoutman's the line coach is really really good for the Eagles and simplifying the offense in the running game

So when we had guys like Jason Peters, who's the best player ever played with aside from the quarterbacks, we knew on third downs, we're going to his side. We're going to do dual blocks. We're going to block down or block up to the linebackers, right? We get a guy like Kelsey, right? Jason Kelsey, I knew how good he was. Okay, so his thing was we want to get him on the perimeter to pull. So when you start knowing your guys, what they do best, it makes the game easier.

When I went to Buffalo, solid offensive line, we had a guy like Richie, Cognito, right? Yeah, yeah. Strong physical. You want to run powers with them, right? Eric Wood, smart dude, can get on the perimeter all so he can do power blocks. Yeah, good guards. Right. So everything of this matters when you know the scheme.

Now, I will say it's about the Giants, though. Yeah, it was a bad team, not a lot of talent. But running the ball, they were pretty solid. The problem was that... Half protection. Right. If we know you're going to run a ball every down from first to third, it's like, okay, we can game playing for it. Yeah.

You know? Let me ask you. I've said this about the... The Jets. We're paying too much attention to Aaron Rogers. First of all, last year there were 14 playoff teams, right? Yeah. Only one coach, kind of, Todd Bulls, kind of was on the hot seat.

But it was the first Tampa year without Brady, so Todd wasn't really on the hot seat. Right. I think when a coach is on the hot seat, they coach differently. So forget Aaron Rogers. Robert Sol is on the hottest seat. Yep. You can make different decisions in games on that. The second thing is the CBA now is limited 12.

28 to 6 padded practices. What it means is I think it hurts offensive lines early in a season. That's the hardest units in the development. I agree with that. So we got a coach with Aaron Rogers, who is the hottest seat. We have an O line of three new guys, veterans, two of them, who have fewer padded practices, and nobody plays in the preseason. I don't think the season's Aaron.

I think it's how solid coaches and the development of the O line with the four. 40-year-old quarterback. Yeah. So I think the new CBA years ago screwed up all lines and the teams like Detroit that has a great one that have come back or Philadelphia. Yeah. It's a huge September-October advantage. So I guess my point to you is when you look at the Jets, do you worry about, forget just Aaron,

like protection, Sala. Did you ever play on a team that had a coach in the hot seat? Did you think they coach differently and practice differently? So on a hot seat, man, it's good and bad, I guess, because now it's like, I'm coaching for something. Where other coaches are, okay, I got a couple years to get my thing together, fill myself through this thing, where now I got to win now. But the good thing about the Jets, right? And I know a lot of conversations about Aaron Rogers because, to be honest, we haven't seen him play in a long time. And the last time we seen he play, he was not that good, right?

Last year in Green Bay. Right, it was not that good in Green Bay, okay? And then with the Jets, he only played with Ford played. So we don't know what Aaron we're getting, right? I think with the Jets, they're in a good position because I watched the Jets battle with really, really good defense. I watched the Jets battle with solid offensive play from the running game, right? And I look at Brice Hall, who I think is a phenomenal talent. So now when you look at it, they can run the ball well.

They got some new wire receivers, right, not to Aaron Rogers' homeboys, right? You got some guys that can really go out there and play. They're in a good shape. And I think, I hate to say it's, I think they win the division. If Aaron Rogers is just, see, we don't need the MVP Aaron Rogers. We don't need that. Not with that defense. Yeah, it got defense.

I fight the times where A-Rod was at his best. He had to throw the ball. He had to do it. He had to score. He had to put points up. Well, with the just, you don't need to do that. The defense is solid enough. Up front and the back end and linebacker, they're solid.

So now, look at the offensive side. Some good weapons, right? You got a good running game. Or A-Ran, I need to throw the ball 40 times for them to win. Right? So it may look different this year. I do think they have a chance. I just want to see how they look, man,

when they start playing. I don't agree with the, sitting them out in preseasoning because a guy like Andy Reid, you're going to play, right? Now, you might not play a lot, but I need to get you having live bullets. You just tore you Achilles a year ago, right?

And now when the live bullets are happening, a coach can't stop the game. He can't stop the practice where if a guy gets too close to you blow the whistle or a defender knows. If I get too close to the quarterback, I got to slow down. No, in the real game, I need to see how Aaron Rogers moves. Okay, guys in his face slide to the right, make a pass,

or the other side. So, Small thing I need to see him play because I don't see what Aaron was getting, but I think they just have a solid team. I want to show you the players, the top 100 players are the top 100 list. So now, Mahomes, they've gotten through 90 players. Mahomes is going to be number one. Lamar is going to be somewhere in the top 10. For sure. So so far, if the 90 players, there are 14 quarterbacks, there'll be two more 16.

And my take is basically the top 16 guys means that these guys, these guys, guys, those teams are, they got their guy. The other 16 probably don't. Is anything on this list, sorry for the radio audience, anything on this list so far, anybody in a space you don't agree with? So did Jaylen Hertz go yet? He went? Jaylen Hertz is 15.

Okay, so this is active right here. This is, okay, I don't like the Aaron Rogers on there. How's he on this list? 92. He's a 14th, they have him as a 15th best quarterback. But he didn't play last year. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

In the year he did the year he before that. What jumped out to me is the disrespect to Matt Stafford. You're telling me he is, he's going to raise number 42. Yeah, I like Matthew Stafford. So they said they have him as 7. They have him as the 11th or 10th best quarterback in the league. Yeah, I don't like that because I got him in my top three, top four on it. Did you see him yesterday?

NFC, yeah, yep. He looked good yesterday, right? Look good. And the crazy thing is he's in my drag class. We were joking about that, that I went to their camp yesterday. He's an 09 drag class like me. And he still is good. lost weight. His arm looks strong. He puts

the ball in places that other quarterbacks can't do it. And then Trevor Lawrence. I'm not really big on Trevor Lawrence. What? Turnovers. Turnovers. I mean, it's like, when I ask people this question, I'm going to ask you, because you're a brilliant guy, right? What makes Trevor Lawrence special? Well, I have confirmation bias.

So here's my problem. I saw him playing high school. I thought it was the best high school quarterback I'd seen for years, and I loved him in college. So now he goes to the NFL, and he has a playoff win. but he hasn't been good. So I fight the fact that I loved him when I saw him at 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22. Right.

I loved him so much. I said he was the next Andrew Luck. That's what everybody's saying about him. That now is it distorting the reality because there is one thing, J-Max pointed this out. That dude turns the ball over a lot. And you know what happens about this?

Nobody really talks about it. If it's Dak Prescott, we're going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. So I'm not biased. I'm honest. When I watch Lawrence play, I don't see it. At high school, he had the top high school team, correct? Talented guys, guys going to Division I.

Then he goes to Clemson. I mean, God, they get all the top, all Americans. From defense to office, you got all the best players. So now when the stage is set, and we got you playing against elite versus elite, you don't look elite. You don't look close to elite. And if you want to be technical, the best player in the office is not him. You get what I'm saying?

So what we asking these questions about setting the market up with the quarterback, the money they're making and who's getting paid. It's funny that a guy like C.D. Lamb could be elite. Let's say Justin Jefferson's better than Cid Lamb, right? Most people say that. But how much better? They're both or elite. So when it's my time to get the extension, I should jump over him because I'm elite player

and so is he. But you ask the guy like Trevor Lawrence, you jumping over Joe Barrono's other guys? Why? Because you play quarterback? I have a hard time with that because there's a lot of great players that are not getting paid. Their value are fighting for it because they don't play quarterback. How many good tight ends can't get paid? Come on, man.

And Tristan, the left tackle for... Tristan Worf. Now, I played with him as in my last year with the bucks. I remember we were in a group, me, Tom Brady, Mike Evans, like the offensive skill players. He was a rookie. We were like, oh, my God. Who was this kid?

God took his time making him. Right? Right? And then I looked... He was great as a rookie. Then I look... He was all pro. I think he's a rookie.

So then I look at now where they're saying that the Tampa Bay and Tristan are far apart. And I'm thinking like, if he played quarterback, he could come to camp, right, have a hat on, have his shorts on hanging out, and he knows the deal's going to be done because he plays quarterback. And he doesn't have to be elite.

So my question, like, I tell my son, yo, make sure you're the best, be the best, be the greatest. Well, you don't have to tell him by that now. Let's play quarterback because you could be good quarterback and make elite money. Yeah. It's crazy how it is now. It's crazy.

Finally, any chance Justin Fields wins the locker room and by week six or seven Steelers lose two straight and he surpasses the less popular Russell Wilson that's a great question because everybody loved Jail him as a guy that's a good question because he's young he's younger

athletic he's bigger he'll run better and again players loved him in Chicago and he was losing usually don't like the quarterback when they lose people loved him in Chicago The only issue with him is I don't think he's very good. I really don't. So as much as I like you, we get to that, we get to the field and I like, he's not that good.

For example, Russell's worst year with the Broncos, that was pretty bad. If I told you that he had a better year than Justin had his last year, would you believe that? Because that's true. Yeah. Right? So I just, as much as we like a player, I mean, I just, and he's younger, so I try to give younger guys like more. excuses and more chances. But he's really not that good.

I mean, you're watching. I mean, you watch him, play. Yeah, he, fourth quarters, when the game's on the line, and if he's not leading, he's not winning. I've watched him lose so many. Another thing, I watch his team fight and fight and fight that win the game, and then he'll lose the game. He'll give it up, right?

And then I just have a weird thing with Ohio State quarterback, because they're always good. I can't name a bad Ohio State quarterback in college, right? All good. And then it gets to the league and like, Well, C.J. Stroud chase that. He's the only one. He's the best one.

By far. By far. He is great. Yeah, he's out of a pleasure. Shady, it's always a pleasure. Always good. Good to see you. Hey, and Jay, please leave my guys alone.

I'm tired of being your lawyer, defending you. Hey, by the way. Cam Newton, I told him, all right, I let him know. You know what? I would like to have Cam on because I think he's a great podcaster. I thought he was a good quarterback. He's a promising podcaster. But do you want to tell him your backstory with Fields or is that not for on air?

No, that's not for air. Not for air. Hey, by the way, I kept my gum secret for 24 hours. Wait a minute. I have my new gum. Sometimes there's secrets. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the

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Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Aiden O'Connell and Gordon. and Gardner Minchu battling it out to be the next Raiders starting quarterback. Vegas had their first padded practice yesterday, Coward, and Antonio Pierce had this to say about the quarterback battle. I like to see, again, I'm going to keep saying, somebody just taking and say, I'm the guy AP, and make it clear and evident, and then we'll make that decision at that point. You hope that would stop now with pads on a little bit more resistant,

but it goes back to it. Number one thing is taking care of the ball, putting the team in the position to win, managing the offense, understanding the operational. You saw some situational stuff there yesterday. I think our guys are doing a good job. Both quarterbacks have really embracing it. But again, I'm just going to go back to it.

Somebody has to just separate from the other. You got money on either of these guys doing that? No. No. They're going to be drafting a quarterback. AOC. New England is going to have the first pick in the draft and the Raiders will be second to third.

What about Broncos? They're going to win seven games. Oh, my gosh. Panthers? Five, six wins, five. So I think Carolina, if you're, I'm guessing today, New England, Carolina, Raiders will all be up. And this is where it gets interesting with the Dak Prescott thing, because it's like, where do you slot DAC assuming he leaves Dallas? And it's like, well, listen, if the Raiders have a top three pick, they're not paying Dak Prescott. They're just going to go ahead and draft a quarterback in the top three, right?

Like, the DAC market is way smaller, I think, than the general. It gets bigger than you think. I don't think there's quarterback two in the market. I think the DAC market is big. Who's quarterback two? Okay, Kirk Cousins hit the market. It was like, okay, Atlanta and Minnesota, that's it. Well, no, yeah, and he's going to have at least two because he's younger, just as good as cousins.

He's more athletic. But he wants the paper. And remember, though, it's a weak college quarterback draft. There's one guy out of Georgia everybody likes. What about Shadour? Where are you on Shadur? I'm selling stock on that. Let's just say I've sold a lot of share.

on that stock. Really? Offloading your Shedur's side? Well, if I'm going to pick on Johnny Mansell and Baker for what I view and James Winston for some immaturity coming in, which is a total turnoff, Shadur's got to scale back on the, you're a quarterback of a team,

team, we, us. I don't he hasn't had a good last six, seven months, and they were awful at the end of the year. That's fair. Moving on to Sam Darnold. He is the front runner for the Viking starting job following the exit of Kirk Cousins. A week into training camp, Coach Kevin O'Connell, says J.J. McCarthy, the rookie out of Michigan,

is on track for consistent first-team reps. Sam's really taken the majority of the one reps. JJ's gotten some reps twos versus ones where he might not be out there with the one offense, but he's certainly seeing some of the things that will allow him to start phasing into, you know, getting into the huddle. you will at some point CJJ be consistently maybe getting a little bit more one reps there. But at the same time, I feel like Sam earned the right to take the bulk of those reps early on. Sam Darnold, going to pop this year.

What if I told you the Vikings were my sleeper in the NFC? Well, I think they're one of the better overpicks. Can we do that next week? We can do that tomorrow. What day is today? Wednesday? Yeah. How about we do that tomorrow? Alex, I'm going to produce the show live on the air.

Let's do an over-under segment tomorrow. You've got to come in with two strong overs and two unders. Okay. I already got my overs. Vikings are, I mean, you look at this offense and the schedule, Colin? No, there's a lot of Ws there. You beat the Giants in week one, and then it's a little tough with San Fran Houston. But it starts.

Packers, yes. I would say down the stretch, there's some Ws. That's where they're going to make up some ground late. I just, you look at this offense. Also, look at they play Detroit last week of the year. Detroit could absolutely be. resting starters. So that's one of those games where the last two teams they play.

Now, the week 17, but in week 18, if Detroit's got a home playoff game, they're not playing an older play. They're not going to give running backs, time off, offensive linemen. So that's something to think about. You look at Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Hawkinson, like, these are real weapons. Look at their left tackle. Aaron Jones, Darisaw, excellent. The defense is going to be the big question mark.

I don't know if they have enough in the secondary to, like, slow down golf and love. But Brian Flores, who we like a lot as a defensive coach, Vikings are a sleeper. Nine wins? I think they could get in the playoffs. Nine's a lot of wins. Although Sam Darnold puts that cape on. He's your guy. Good things happen.

Final story is to the NBA where the Lakers haven't really done much this offseason. Remember, they did draft Alton Connect and Brony James. But on his podcast, NBA insider Zach Lowe alluded to the Lakers acquiring Blazers forward Jeremy Grant saying, should we start printing the Jeremy Grant jerseys? I might order one. Sounds like Jeremy Grant to the Lakers is going to happen. Now, what happened in early August when some of these contracts kick in and guys can be moved? I do wonder.

He's a good number four on a great team. And he's the perfect 3-&D wing. He's not Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown. He's expensive, but he should be your fourth best player. Now, with the Lakers, he'll be their third. You don't want LeBron guarding the opposing. team's best thing. I don't think he's a bad acquisition at all. I like him. He's a little costly,

but Portland's now got a youth movement. He doesn't fit. They've got some wings, so they'll move it. So you're telling me, AD, LeBron. But you know what they're going to want up there? I'm trying to think what Portland would want. A couple of picks? I think they'd want Rui's size. Ooh, I don't know about parting with the Japanese Jordan. I love

his game, man. Not giving up Austin Reeves. That's not happening. We know... They don't need Austin Reeves. He couldn't make the roster. Portland's got too much young talent at guard. They don't want DeAnglo Russell, obviously. They have it, like you said, Scoot Henderson and company in the backcourt. Maybe Rui Hachymour is their guy. Yeah, I think they'd want size. Because their guards are good.

You and Nick surprisingly were a little lower than I expected on the Lakers. I'm just continue to doubt LeBron. And we'll see if he... It's actually worked pretty well the last couple of years for me. They make the playoffs the last couple of years. Did lose to the Nuggets, but... Did they win a game? I forget. This year, they won one last year, no.

But I guess they played well. Got close. You notice the eye roll. I like you just tossed that in there. America's honesty broker. I can live in L.A. I got to call it straight. When A.D. and LeBron look like the two best players on the Olympian team,

it would be nice if you can win a couple playoff games. I'm not asking for conference championship appearances. Just how about two playoffs wins? That's a reasonable ask. I'm always trying to be half full cowherd. I'm trying to. That's who I am, Mr. Optimism. Jay Mack with the news.

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The podcast is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about the stories about what made these people love their sport. and all the interesting interactions along the way. We talk to coaches, we talk to players, we tell you stories. You download it, you listen to it, I think you like it. Listen to All Ball with Doug Ghalib on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast. The last Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast.

Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand, new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun-tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to boil your mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.

I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,

waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed correct. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence.

I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, J-Mack, we do movie day once a year on the herd. Americans don't go to theaters like they used to, but I still promote the industry. And we're going to have eight divisions in the NFL.

We're going to call this Collins Coming Attractions where I start at the bottom and move up the worst divisions to the highest, to the best division in the NFL. And we think each division is sort of emblematic of a movie poster. Some of the movies are in the 60s, 70s, 80s, some are more recent. Are you ready to play? Let's rock and roll. Collins' coming attraction. So bringing up the rear, the number eight conference in the NFL, one flew over the Kirk Hoos Nest.

A KG veteran ratchets up the rebellion against divisional mediocrity. Kirk Cousins and the Falcons are favored to win the division. By the way, lowest win percentage by any division last year, the Panthers had the worst record in the entire NFL. So the great Jack Nicholson movie. Is that a musty opening weekend? One flew over the Kirk. Not really, but one flew over the Kirkoo's Nest.

Near the bottom, number seven, Stroudie with a chance of meatballs. The Texans stand out amongst other lofty prospects. Now, we've had three different AFC South Division winners over the last three years. But I think a lot of people feel like, and they're not wrong, that Stroud is the youngest quarterback. Do you know this in league history to win a playoff game?

I did not know that. Now I do. All right. Number six, NFC East DAC to the future. The NFC East Future looks kind of like the past. Philadelphia, Dallas, probably the best roster. Now, Cowboys, for all the criticism, Mike McCarthy gets, they've won the division two times in the last three years.

The commanders have a rookie quarterback. The Giants have a regrettable quarterback. Nick Seriani's on the hot seat. I think they've upgraded coordinators and they'll be fine. But it's still a pretty predictable weak division. Back to the future, one of the great movies in the 1980s. Very good. Very good.

Number five, AFC West, Oceans 11 personnel. Chiefs of 1-8 straight division titles. They have all the loot. One team holds all the loot, but there's an ocean of difference between them. Raiders in a rebuild. I think the Chargers are better than people suspect. Denver, I like more than the odds makers, but it's a rookie quarterback in a defense last year that was bad. Yeah, Bo Nix.

the movie poster behind Aiden O'Connell. Wow. So much for your Broncos. Now, right in the middle. The fourth best division, killed Bill. It's open season in this division. Now the old master has been eliminated, so the bills have won four straight division titles

every single year since Brady left. Now, the question is, with Buffalo, who does Josh Allen throw to? There's the rookie from Florida State. They have nice tight ends, new running back. But they've kind of struggled getting all the pieces assembled offensively. But let's be honest, Josh Allen has kind of changed the division. Now we get to the elite divisions.

Number three, NFC West, weekend at Purdy's. Not bad. Is he carrying them? Or is Brock carrying the team? He, they, whatever. Niners have been noisy. Trent Williams, Brandon I, U. contract disputes. They're also getting up there in age.

Kyler Murray's healthy. Seahawks have a new coach. Rams look very interesting, but the movie is weekend at Purdy's. Now the final two divisions, the second best, AFC North, the AFC Avengers. There's heroes assembled. Into one of the most difficult divisions there is, the only division to have all four teams with a winning record. I don't know what to do with Cleveland. I like their talent, but you know I've got my issues

with their quarterback. I think you're too hung up on that. And number one, division in football. Top guns. High flying aerial combatants put on a spectacular show. Jordan Love, rookie Caleb Williams, Jared Goff, and the very capable. Sam Darnold with G.J. McCarthy in the office. Of course, they have a Tom Cruise movie at first, because you've your love for him and Mission Impossible.

Have you not watched every Mission Impossible? I think I have, yeah. They're great. They're no top gun or Maverick. I always think it's a bummer that we can't give like Jason Bourne or like we don't give the actor credit when you get these because they're like, you know, people look at them and think, well, they're action movies.

Mission Impossibles, and the Born Identity series are spectacular movie making. Oh my gosh. I've shown my kid all the born, well, my kids, including my daughter, all the born movies already. There must see for kids. Like, I kind of fashion myself as something of a Jason Bourne, you know, if I need to. Did I ever tell you my Matt Damon story? Where your wife said, hey, there's Jason Bourne? I went to a UFC fight.

Yes, yes, yes. Data White, Gummy, good tickets. like second row. My wife had never been. And she goes, and, you know, Damon goes to a lot of those fights, and he's wearing a redsock hat. And he's in the first row. And my wife just freaks out and just like looks and goes,

oh my God, there's Jason Bourne. And Matt Damon turns and looks and smiles at me. I'm like, sorry. Yeah, he's like, what? That's not supposed to happen in these expensive seats. I'm not supposed to get the Jason Bourne tree. You really think that's the best division of football, huh? Well, it's an offensive league.

and I think if Minnesota is the fourth best team in that division, I think we both think their offensive personnel is really uniquely good. So I think they could win eight games. You see them as 9, 10, 11. I think Minnesota is going to win eight games and probably finish fourth. But I would not be shocked if they're battling for a wild card in week 15. Well, nine wins in the NFC probably gets you to the playoffs. Probably.

They did last year. You might be at home. No, I think if you don't win 10 games, in the AFC, good luck. It's going to be tough. But I do think you can get in with nine, but I will say if Washington and Chicago's rookies are good, the NFC for the last three years has clearly been the inferior conference to the AFC.

That's indisputable. I still think the AFC is better, but the Rams rebuild is over. Green Bay is good. Detroit's really good. And Philly and the Niners are both still excellent offers. But that's still only five teams. I'm just saying. Yeah. Your top five is good. Now, the AFC is better and has more depth.

There are 7, 8, 9, 10's better. But the top, I mean, I could argue the two best rosters in the sport are San Francisco and Philadelphia. And those are both NFC teams. Yeah, something's going on with Dallas. I mean, you and I both have them outside of the playoffs, yet they're favored in like 13 of 17 games, which there's a bit of a disconnect there. I don't know what to do with Dallas, but are they one of the top six teams? In the NFC, they've won 12 games three years in a row, right? Like, are you missing something?

think they're, here's a thing. I ask you this question. Does C.D. Lamb play every week of the season? If the answer is yes, then they can be a playoff team. I think you've got to do that, right? They are spectacularly, inarguably, overwhelmingly dependent

offensively on C.D. Lambs staying healthy. They are thin at running back. Thin at receiver. Amaraz St. Brown goes down for the lions. There's a big drop-off between him and I think Khalif Raymond is their number two. No, what about Jameson.

He's never healthy. Jameson Williams. He runs like one route. They're good at tight end. They have the best old line. They're a good run game. Dallas is like, it's cross your fingers. You think they're in deep trouble, huh?

Well, I think they're just so dependent on one offensive player. Dack's history is if he throws 40 plus times, they're not a good team. So you don't want to have Dack in the 43, 44 throwing a game. They have the worst running back room in the league. Also, the defense can carry. Remember they bullied teams last year? That defense swarms. Diggs is coming back. Blan looks good.

And I know they lost Dan Quinn, but I don't know. It may feel like we're writing off Dallas too early. I'm not writing them off. Do you have them in the playoffs? No. You wrote them off. Well, well, I still have two opportunities. I have two predictions before.

That's right. That's right. And next week I'm going to do, well, we'll see. But tomorrow we're doing the over-unders. Over-unders. Come up with a catchy name. for it. Huh? You got Denver. I'm not going to get into particular.

There are two teams I'm selling, two I'm buying. I want your two and two. Two and two tomorrow. All right. Nice show. Thanks to Nick Wright. Shady. The herd. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,

help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, Embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.

84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

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