The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Live from Green Bay
Episode Date: July 22, 2024Packers insider Matt Schneidman joins the show live from Green Bay with the latest on the negotiations between Love and the PackersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Well, a lot of times a story will sound much more inflammatory that it actually is.
And when you see the headline, Jordan Love says, I'm not practicing until I get a new contract.
Whoa, Brandon Ayuk-Niner situation.
That's not really the case here.
Both sides want to wrap it up.
But I took the side of Jordan Love today because I said, you know, he's not a kid that just walked out of college into the NFL.
they have three and a half years of practice tape, 27 games, 18 starts.
They know his maturity.
They know his leadership.
They've watched his decision making.
They know who he gets along with.
They know his personality quirks.
If you're in a building three, three and a half years, it's the employee's responsibility
to figure out who you are.
Like an employee is what they are, right?
So to meet with Jordan Love, they have all this practice footage I haven't seen.
but Matt Schneidman probably has seen a lot of those practices.
He's been covering the Packers for about a half decade.
He joins us live from the Athletic.
And it sounds very inflammatory.
I don't think it is.
But, Matt, it is weird because to just say, I'm not practicing,
it's kind of like, ooh, ooh, he's kind of putting his employers on the hot seat.
I'm okay with it.
Were you surprised by it?
A little bit only because he participated in all the volunteers.
and mandatory stuff this offseason without a new contract.
But deadline spur action and David Muluggetta,
who represents a lot of high-profile clients in the NFL,
you know Deshawn Watson, Jalen Ramsey,
I think Derwin James, C.J. Stroud, he has Jordan Love too.
So the start of training camp was kind of that first deadline.
Brian Gutakun said this offseason on local radio
that he wanted to get something done before camp.
But then Gutakun's opened today,
Packers opening training camp a little early
because they go to Brazil week one,
so they open camp a little early.
since they play on that Friday.
So Goody said today, he wasn't surprised by Jordan Love not practicing today.
It's not a holdout.
It's a hold-in.
Jordan Love was at practice, walked out to practice right next to Matt LaFleurr,
is doing everything besides practicing.
So there is, like you said, this sense from both sides
that not only do they want to get something done, but something will get done.
Guti Kuhn said point blank at the podium this morning, I think we're close.
So this could be something where Jordan Love's on the practice field by the end of the week.
I thought last year I'd never seen anything quite like it.
So we had joked for three years, I had more footage of Bigfoot than Jordan Love.
Like they didn't even let like practice footage get out.
Then he's kind of bad in September.
And even to the point where Matt LaFleur, who's a very likable player's friendly coach,
was kind of testy at the podium.
And then he becomes Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana in like a nine-week period
where he's the best player in the league playing with a bunch of kids.
It's the youngest team in the league.
So part of me is like, what in, what happened?
What's the flip, the switch that was flipped?
Let's go back to that because generally it's a gradual ascension for any quarterback.
He just popped about week four, week five.
What was the flip?
What was the switch?
Yeah, you know, that's the journalist question that we spent pretty much the second half of last season asking.
it really started with that Steelers game in week 10 where they lost,
but that was the first game where we really saw Love make a couple,
okay, you might have it kind of throws.
You know, there were times during the first half of the season
where receivers were running the same routes
and literally standing on top of each other in the same spot
as incomplete passes flew by.
Jordan wasn't great himself either,
but it wasn't only a first year starting quarterback.
You have Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reed,
and Dantavian Wicks as your top four receivers,
all in their first or second year.
You have to remember, not only is Aaron Rogers gone,
but they've gotten younger across the board.
I think at that halfway point,
it was just enough practice reps, in-game reps built up
between Jordan Love, his weapons, his offensive line,
where they really kind of started to jail.
And that's why you saw things start to click
in the second half of last season.
Going into the season, like you said,
they really only had one game to go off of.
When Rogers tested positive for COVID in 2021,
Jordan Love started on short notice against the Chiefs in Arrowhead and was bad.
I think he was pressured like 16 times.
They lost 13 to 7 or something.
But I remember talking to Brian Gutakunz over the phone last offseason,
and he said coming out of that game,
he was really pleased with how Jordan Love stood in the face of pressure,
kind of faced it.
He kept coming back, and they knew he had the intangibles.
And it was a bit of a waiting game, not a bit of a waiting game.
It was a hell of a waiting game, waiting out those couple years.
But now they're paying the dividends.
And now they think they have their franchise quarterback.
Listen, they never wanted to say it publicly.
The Packers are a pretty classy organization.
Not pretty.
They're a classy organization.
They don't have an outspoken owner.
They just, you know, that region, Minnesota, Green Bay, Milwaukee, it's a humble, hardworking region.
Aaron was a lot the last couple of years there.
He was a lot.
I actually felt watching Green Bay last year, and it hit me about Thanksgiving, and I felt like,
oh, this is finally Matt Lefleur's team.
This feels like Matt's team.
Now, again, that's just a reach by me.
You're in the locker room.
I'm not.
No, it's not.
I don't think it is a reach, and apologies to cut you off, but, you know, we spent the entire
offseason asking Matt Lefleur, what is your offense going to look like?
Because there's the narrative, and some of it, the truth's probably somewhere in the middle,
that Aaron Rogers would just change every single play
at the on a skirmament.
He obviously had the freedom to,
as he should as a quarterback of his stature in this league.
But, you know, Matt Lafleur always pushed back against that narrative,
that we would finally see his true offense.
And if you've spent enough time in Green Bay,
like, you know, people have spent much more time here than me,
but this is my sixth season here.
And if you want to know the truth about what's going on in the building,
put Mark Murphy in front of a microphone with the key president.
To start off training camp last season,
after Lafleur spent a whole offseason saying,
no, no, it'll be a collaboration.
You know, this isn't going to be my true offense.
Mark Murphy got to the podium and said,
we're finally going to see what Matt's true offense looks like.
So we did.
Now, I don't know where maybe we saw that most,
but, you know, I think we kind of saw some collaboration
that was really good to see between Lafleur and Jordan Love
as the season went on.
And I think that's what has fans and the Packers really excited
about this season.
is kind of where they left off.
They obviously surprised some people with that playoff run,
and they're going to hit the ground running this year, I think.
You know, it's funny.
I remember talking to a couple of GMs on Jordan Levitt at a college at Utah State.
There was some pot bust or something.
I'm not terribly judgmental on that.
But for quarterbacks, it's a little different.
I'm a little more punitive for a quarterback.
You know, how you'd handle yourself at the podium matters.
I think one of the things that you'd have a much greater sense of than I would.
But I always say, Dack Prescott is what I want all my kids,
quarterbacks to be at the podium. He's got a crazy owner, huge brand, he puts out fires.
And I've come to terms with Baker Mayfield, but it's a little opposite of Baker Mayfield.
He started them, Dak puts him out. But I've really been kind of blown away by Jordan
Love at the podium because you're replacing Aaron. This is a lot more than people think.
You deal with Jordan on a day to day. So my gut was coming in. He's kind of immature. I've seen none of that.
I kind of think he's more mature.
Like, what's he like as a guy?
Fill me in a little bit on this.
Yeah, that's part of the reason why the Packers were so comfortable trading Aaron
without really seeing Jordan start all that much.
It was because they had seen him behind the scenes for three years.
In all my interactions with Jordan,
whether it be kind of off to the side in the locker room
or in a press conference setting in front of his locker,
nothing but respectful, really nice guy.
Very PC with his answers.
He hasn't really let us in yet.
He's starting to do so more, starting to show more personality.
But I don't blame him for in his first year starting, not really wanting to do that.
There's kind of a rule of thumb around here for local reporters that you get one big one-on-one request for the entire season.
So I would request Aaron for a one-on-one the first four years I was here.
And he said, yes, all four times.
He would always be great.
And, you know, Aaron, like, he's an incredible interview for reporters.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
He's so insightful, so knowledgeable.
And I'm not saying Jordan Love isn't that.
He just doesn't give you kind of the quotes and as much, you know,
insight and storytelling.
And who knows, he might become that.
But I requested Jordan for a one-on-one before they played the Cowboys last year.
And he respectfully declined it, which I have no problem with.
But it was because he just wanted to, you know, keep the focus on the Cowboys,
kind of still prove himself.
And he hadn't really done, I don't think, many local one-on-ones or however many one-on-ones.
Because his thing last year was, I just want to prove that I belong.
I think, and he did that.
And this contract is going to reflect that.
So maybe we see more of that personality this year.
His teammates love him.
Kishon Nixon, after they gave an extension to Kenny Clark yesterday, Kishon Nixon,
they're all pro kick returner, tweeted number 10 is next.
These guys have his back from everything I know and everything I've heard.
Jordan Love has been nothing but exemplary in terms of a teammate and a personality in that locker room.
So expectations.
So I kind of feel like there's a handful of rules.
rosters in the NFL.
San Francisco, Detroit feel like they're just older than the Packers.
They're really good.
They're, especially San Francisco.
It's like Hall of Fame veterans.
These guys are some on the precipice of maybe a retirement, like a kiddle.
And then there's, you know, your Baltimore stack roster, I think Cleveland, Pittsburgh,
you know, Kansas City, Buffalo.
I was so blown away by Love and the Packers in Dallas.
You know, it's one of the last.
And then the San Francisco game, they went down to the end.
I think they're in my like 7-18 Super Bowl bubble,
but I do wonder if I'm just giving too much to two games
where I was so blown away by them.
What feels realistic to you?
I mean, they upgraded it running back.
The O-line's young.
Now it's not as young.
I imagine like they always do,
some of these draft picks will hit and produce.
What's realistic to you that if the season ended blank,
you'd have to be happy with it?
Yeah, I don't think it's Super Bowl or Bust necessarily, but those are realistic expectations to have.
Last year with the youngest team in the NFL, they went to the divisional round,
and you have to remember, they took a lead into that fourth quarter against the 49ers.
And then they would have gone to Detroit, where they spanked the lions a couple weeks prior.
So for a second there, I was sitting in the press box in Santa Clara thinking,
are the Packers going to go to the Super Bowl this year?
But I think, you know, home field advantage in the NFC playoffs is realistic.
You got to get back to winning a division.
That should be the bare minimum for expectations inside that building.
I would put them up there with some of the best rosters in the NFL,
but I think they're still kind of playing with House Money,
with how young they are.
They still have the same receiver core.
Like you mentioned, they replaced Aaron Jones with a running back in Josh Jacobs,
who is more than three years younger,
but made a first team all pro two years ago.
And their other massive addition is Xavier McKinney,
the perennial all-pro safety from the New York,
Giants who's still 24 years old. They gave them almost 17 million in free agency this
offseason, hired a new defensive coordinator and Jeff Halfley, the former head coach at Boston
College. So there's a lot of change here, but at the meat of the bone is this is still a really
young team who feels they did leave some meat on the bone last year. And Jaden Reed, one of their
promising receivers said today, you know, they expect to just hit the ground running right
where they left off last year. Yeah. Great stuff. Matt Schneidman covers the Packers
for the athletic, which I strongly encourage
people subscribe to because I live on
the thing. They do great work. We haven't
talked before. We want to bring you on again. I appreciate
you taking time. We know you're a busy guy. You just got out
of locker room down there and
up there, wherever it is. And
we just appreciate your insight on the show,
my man. Thank you. Thanks
so much, Colin. Really appreciate you having me.
Matt Schneidman does a really nice job with them.
And it's, I love getting people that are in the
locker rooms at practice, come right
off of practice and have great
insight, and that's exactly what he delivered.
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Hey, we've been.
so friendly and kind to so many teams.
Let's go to Daniel Jones.
Ah, yes, we need to kind of mock someone.
Anyways, he's under a lot of pressure
in what is his sixth season
as Giants quarterback.
They were looking to draft one,
but we're unable to make a deal to move up.
Jones got paid last offseason,
performed poorly before tearing his ACL in November,
but says he's ready to go
with training camp set to begin on Wednesday.
You know, they went and added Drew Locke,
coach on the hot seat.
So I, what's really interesting to me, and I was in the Northeast this weekend and ran into,
well, there's a lot of New York Giant fans all over the Northeast.
Okay.
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Do you really believe in Daniel Jones or do you got to roll the dime?
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Every time I talk to a giant fan, they're like, hey, you're rough on Daniel Jones.
And I think, am I?
Who are these meatballs you're talking to?
They're not tough on Daniel Jones.
I don't hang out with meatballs.
These are America's future.
And they still kind of bond.
Now, I do think he's a bigger, faster version of Alex Smith where he's a big guy that can move.
But I just, way too many turnovers.
The game looks fast.
Now, the argument by a giant fan is our offensive line is putrid.
What do you expect?
And I do think that's part of it, though they have a very good left tackle.
But it can't be all of it.
At some point, you have to overcome stuff.
Joe Burrow got to a Super Bowl with a bad offensive line.
I'm not asking you to win 13 games a year.
You can't be awful.
Burrow got to a Super Bowl with an atrocious O line.
That's all I'm saying.
Hey, you know who else had a bad O-line?
Zach Wilson.
Hey, he's got, we got to give him a shot.
Zach Wilson didn't really have a fair shake with the Jets because the left tackle was a disaster.
Like, is that what we're doing here?
Or is Daniel Jones, do they like him because he won one playoff game?
He won in Minnesota.
Like, for the record, if you're keeping score, he does not make my top 10 list.
Nobody.
Top 20?
I don't even know if he's top 20.
It's just a turnover thing, man.
It's stuff's compounding.
Not winning enough.
Turnovers, now he's hurt.
It's all, it's the troika.
It's the bad threesome.
It's the bad threesome.
When you're hurt, you're not winning, and you turn the ball over a ton.
It's like Justin Fields.
It's like Justin.
You're not winning.
You get hurt too much, and your turnovers are a major problem.
I think Justin's more talented than Daniel, but it's the same kind of thing.
You've got to stay out of those.
If you were looking for a bridge quarterback, would you go Fields or Daniel Jones?
Oh my gosh.
You've got to think about this?
I do.
What's the price tag?
Fields is free.
12 million a year.
You're looking for a bridge quarterback a backup.
10 million, whatever.
I don't know.
Justin Fields had a defensive coach.
Daniel's got one of the best offensive coaches.
We've seen five years of Daniel Jones.
He ain't at Justin Fields.
We don't think he's it,
but I think there's a better chance
that something becomes of Fields than Jones.
And also, Justin Fields has never again
had an offensive head coach.
That's a rough, that's harder.
By the way, nobody.
he's ever succeeded in Chicago a quarterback. Nobody.
I mean, Rex Grossman,
Jim Harbaugh, they don't know what to do at quarterback.
Wow, I can't believe you had to think about that.
Why, I didn't give you an answer.
I mean, is there a, no, I'll give you an example.
I think Zach Wilson is a server, so I think he could be a great backup.
But I trust, no, God, I don't.
It's funny, there's not a lot of backup quarterbacks.
I mean, Justin Fields may be top of the list.
He may be number one.
I'm serious.
He's got super talent.
He may be the...
Trying to think of another backup, I love.
Chase Daniel, is he still in the league?
No.
I mean, for...
Tyrod Taylor, Jets.
Oh, I like him.
Yeah, Tyrod Taylor's top of my list backup.
Yeah, that's a good one.
But he's getting older now.
He's got to be like 33.
You're not expected to do much as the backup.
Hold the clipboard.
Tyrod, my theory on backups,
your starter gets hurt for four weeks.
Can the backup win two games?
Cooper Rush won, I think, four games.
He did.
I don't know enough about Cooper Rush.
I've seen a lot of Tyrod Tabor.
Tyrod could be my, it wouldn't be a needle mover,
but if you list backup quarterback segments,
Tyrod's way up there.
He's way up there.
Let's rank the top 10 backup.
No, let's not.
Okay.
Let's move on to another quarterback.
The Vikings kicking off camp this week,
and they have Sam Darnold, your guy.
As the starter with Kirk Cousins gone,
according to a recent report,
the Vikings leadership believes there's untapped potential with Darnel.
Yeah.
And hope he can follow in the footsteps of Gino Smith.
Yes.
When he arrived in Seattle, remember Gino, oh, goodness gracious, total disaster.
Turned it around in Seattle.
Dude, they have so much offensive talent.
They have a lot of talent.
I'm really actually, if Minnesota finishes in fourth,
they're going to go down as one of the best fourth place teams ever.
I wouldn't be shocked if in week 13 they're battling for second place in that division behind Detroit.
They have a lot.
I like their coach.
I like their left tackle.
They're tied in.
They're running back.
They're receivers.
They made some nice little smart, like Houston Texans a couple years ago.
I made a bunch of B, B plus moves in the offseason, free agency.
Vikings did the same.
I really, if they were in a different division, I'd give them a shot at a wild card with Darnold.
I just, I think the Packers in Detroit are too good.
And I think Chicago is going to be arguably the most improved team in the league.
Is there a world where the Vikings win 10 games that make the playoffs?
Yes, there is.
Okay.
I mean, Baker Mayfield, everybody.
bailed on him and he goes to Tampa and he gets a big deal.
Obviously, J.J. McCarthy is who they want to start, but
they got pro bowlers at all the key offensive positions.
Do you remember what O'Connell did last year with, who was the space guy?
Josh Dobbs.
Josh Dobbs.
Without a practice.
And there was somebody else that they had.
Who are these guys?
And they were putting up numbers in competitive in games.
Now you've got a full season with Donald and, uh...
McCarthy?
See? It's interesting.
I think maybe we're a little lower than we should be on the Vikings.
I think it's all division-related.
I think if they were in a different division, I'd like him a lot more.
Do the lions scare you?
They do.
They do? I mean, they're the best line there.
But do they scare you?
Yeah, because they can take the ball out of your hands
because they just lean on their run game and their old line and you never get a handle on golf.
If golf has protection, he's a top six quarterback in the league.
When Goff has time to throw, you can't get to him.
Their old line's too good.
Yeah, Detroit is a nightmare.
Detroit's one of those teams.
Remember when they opened with Kansas City and beat them?
You can play keep-away.
Well, wait a minute.
Chris Jones didn't play.
No, excuses.
I think Detroit's a team you don't want to play.
Are you trying to get golf in here, by the way?
Is that what it is?
You know he's local.
Some of us have the ability to perceive talent at a higher level.
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How about this guy?
This Otani fellow,
30th over of the season yesterday,
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To one is hammered.
Deep right center field.
Way out of here.
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In the history of this...
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Stolen bases is a power hitter.
He's fifth.
That's like...
I mean, think about that.
What if Hank Aaron could be a top five stolen base threat?
I mean, it's insane.
What if Barry Bonds was a top three stolen base threat?
He was.
Barry Bonds is...
He could run.
He's a 40-40 guy, wasn't he?
All I know is the kid is...
And the Dodgers have been so injury-plagged.
There are times you could have pitched around him a little.
Can't.
He's just on...
Getting it out of the stadium.
That's pretty...
That's a good flex.
I'm trying to think of the last person that hit it out of Dodger Stadium.
There was a former San Francisco giant named Willie McCovey.
Number 44, a legendary left-handed stick.
This is the 70s baseball?
Yeah.
Willie McCovee, I think, hit a ball out of...
Didn't Konseko hit that one in the World Series out of this?
Well, Kirk Gibson.
He may have had help.
But I'm trying to think of
I mean of all the great Dodger hitters
and all the great players
I don't know anybody.
Willie McCovey is the only top of my head player
that I think hit the ball to Dodger Stadium.
And I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure.
Hey, Ryan, outside of hockey scores,
can you get that one for me?
Is William McCovey the last guy to hit it out of Dodger Stadium?
Great trivia question.
I'll probably be on Jeopardy this week.
I am...
Is baseball doing enough to market him?
Because if the NBA or NFL had someone on that level, like you said earlier, Travis Kelsey's in six national commercials.
He's everywhere.
LeBron, obviously.
But like...
Well, that's not baseball's fault.
That's his agent's issue.
He's a good-looking kid.
He's unbelievable.
To me, if I was a product in America, I'd put my name.
I think there's some stigma with a gambling, but I, you know, I don't.
Now, baseball had this with Trout.
You, like, he was the best player in the sport and they couldn't win in the playoffs, and he was just,
like kind of not anonymous, but he wasn't as famous as the top basketball players or football players in America.
Okay, they say here, John Carlos Stanton had the longest home run at Dodgers Stadium nine years ago.
So close to Willie McCove.
He was a Marlon back then. Let's see.
Okay, only six home runs have been hit out of the stadium.
Fernando Tatis.
John Carlos Stanton, Mark McGuire, Mike Piazza, Willie Sargill.
So I'm wrong.
It's not McCovey.
It's Willie Stardell's the big lefty.
Mark McGuire. Remember him?
Yeah.
Everybody remembers him.
So, Willie McCubby didn't hit a ball out of Dodgers Street.
It's okay.
All right.
70s baseball, you know?
A lot of people like 70s baseball.
Maybe you should pay it to respect.
Do you know anything about the Cincinnati Reds in the 70s?
Do I know anything?
Go ahead.
Nate to start again field.
I can go back up catcher Bill Plummer on you.
You don't even want to test me in that space.
Like a rain man over here.
Boy, airports and 70s.
MLB. Cowherd.
Nobody touches me.
J. Mack with the news.
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And thanks for stopping by.
The Herd Lie News.
Mike Piazza, I think I remember that one.
My William McCovey trivia.
Encyclopedic trivia is not very good.
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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
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That man, hell get to fly.
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Hey, I'm Jared Adano.
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Struggle this weekend, USA, LeBron and Team USA by a point beat South Sudan. I watched a majority
of that game. They were reeling in the first half. We have more talent than we had in a long time.
And Rachel Nichols stopped by earlier today. I also thought it was pretty interesting that
LeBron was voted here 39 years old, year 22, he was voted on among all other players in Olympic basketball as the flag bear for both teams.
And I think the fact that younger players still look up to LeBron, he's aging well.
Rachel and I talked about that.
They usually give this honor to an athlete who has had several games experience.
So it's someone who's a veteran of Team USA.
But there's a lot of veterans of Team USA across the board.
on the women's basketball side
in every sport you can think of
and there's never been a male basketball player
from Team USA who has carried the flag
so that tells you how much of an honor
and how much of an accomplishment this is
LeBron is a different temperament than Kobe and NJ
and he always has been right
Kobe and MJ didn't care who liked them
you know in fact they kind of wanted people
not to like them right and it was just sort of winning
was filling this need that they have
LeBron to me has always been
someone who winning builds him as a
to like sort of filling something.
Yeah.
And he wants to be liked.
And, you know, he's talked about that in recent years,
that when he tried to be the villain in the heat, he didn't like it.
So, you know, I'm not surprised.
And he has been much better with young players than some of the vets were with him when
he was younger.
Do you think, as they look at it now, do you think maybe a little bit,
the Olympic women's team is thinking, God, did we have to lose to Caitlin Clark and the
WM.E. Elster team?
This is, of all the games we needed to win, did it kind of, was it kind of a,
Okay.
Do you think there's anybody on that Olympic team that thinks we probably just should have
put it early?
Well, look, the last time they did this prior to the Tokyo Olympics, the WMBA team beat
USA.
So it's happened before.
And frankly, this is the toughest competition Team USA is going to face in this entire month.
They are not going to face an opponent in the international tournament that is as talented,
as hungry as we saw the WMBA team be over the weekend.
And Cheryl, we talked about that.
She said, I think this is a landmark game for our league.
And it's one of the most exciting nights we've ever had because there were so many eyeballs
and so much attention on it.
And part of that is, of course, due to Caitlin Clark.
I mean, if you look at the voting, the top 11 players in voting for the All-Star game last year,
I think it was $734,000 or something in that ballpark.
The total voting this year, just for Caitlin Clark alone, was $700,000.
So that not only tells you how popular she is, but tells you how many more people are voting, how many more people tuned in.
More eyes.
I think that most of the WMBA is actually pretty grateful for her bringing those eyeballs, and especially to an All-Star game,
because look at all the players that got to show off, right?
Oh, that is my take.
Orika was great, Angel was great.
Brianna Stewie was just like a beast out there.
When you're a great musical act, who you choose as your open changes career.
Yes.
Like it's, I can remember, I think it was the Rolling Stones at one point,
choose guns and roses and guns and roses outperform them.
Yeah.
There is something to be said, you put Caitlin Clark in these showcase games
because advertisers will watch.
No, 100%.
By the way, if you're a member of Chicago, there can be car dealerships.
There can be, there's all sorts of local businesses that we forget not every ads
a national ad.
No, Indiana absolutely does that.
Yeah.
No, 100%.
Yeah.
I mean, as for Team USA, I will say this.
I think that Caitlin Clark is more relieved not to be on Team USA
than she was when the selection process was going on.
I think she wanted to be on Team USA when the selection process is going on,
but she talked at this All-Star game about how exhausted she is.
She's played a year straight of basketball,
the calendar going from college to pros for the women.
Because the WNBA season, you don't get the layoff after college.
No.
Her last basketball game for Iowa was in April, and the draft is April 13th,
and they get into training camp two weeks later.
So she's very tired from all of that basketball,
frankly also from carrying the
leagues that she's been in. She's had the most
attention on her and I
think it's affected her shot. Her shot didn't
go in this all-star game and she's
been a little bit tough from the three-point
line for a while and I think it's exhaustion
and she just said I'm looking forward to taking
a month off. I'll see you at the end of it.
I think we're going to see a rejuvenated
Caitlin Clark for this final run of the season.
So they're not
quite sure the Paris Olympics
how popular there'll be. They got
stuff next to the Eiffel Tower so
optics are unbelievable, but I think we're getting a dominant gold from the women and a more
a battle-tested gold from the men. That's my guess. But the bigger question is, are you
interested in watching the women's team that doesn't have Caitlin? Not as much, no. I would watch
with Caitlin. But in fairness, I've said this a hundred times over the course of the last 20 years.
I, about 15 years ago, pivoted to World Cup over the Olympics.
You know, the Olympics used to be when I was younger, you didn't get sports for three weeks
straight every day on TV, right?
Like, every game wasn't televised.
So, like, it was just rare.
The World Cup 25 years ago wasn't as big here.
The Olympics were gigantic.
I watch soccer beyond the Olympics.
I don't watch lose or track and field beyond the Olympics.
So I don't care as much about the Olympics.
I think the Winter Olympics, because I ski, I think they're fun.
I don't know.
Volleyball, this Summer Olympics is going to be awesome.
Yeah.
Chase Budinger, former NBA player, I got some buddies out in South Bay who play with him.
And obviously he's a superstar athlete.
I'm very excited to watch volleyball the Olympics.
That'll be great.
Yeah.
I'll watch some of my kids are there.
They got some tickets, and so, you know, they did.
Use dad to get the hook up?
No, dad didn't do the hookup.
Don't lie.
No, I gave him a little cash for it, but they bought their own tickets.
They want to go to it.
Hey, not spoiling any kids over here.
Oh, yeah, definitely no, spoilt.
They work hard for the money.
That's a song, right?
From like the 80s or 70s?
If it was in the 70s or 80s, I was humming it at some point in my life.
Okay.
Matt Schneidman stopped by from Packer Camp.
Rachel Nichols stopped by as well on a Monday.
Huh.
We're going to have quite a presidential race here.
Should we not comment on that?
Very excited.
Come on. You have takes.
Oh, I got takes.
I got takes for miles on that thing.
Maybe I'll unveil them tomorrow.
Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.
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This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an
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What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
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We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying.
You just understood.
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