The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Mark Sanchez in studio

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez joins The Herd to talk about the drama going on with the Eagles, how he thinks Bill Belichick would do as head coach for UNC, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener fo...r privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:41 the NFL. So you're seeing younger players now, you have to basically out of high school, wait three years before you go pro for safety concerns, obviously. But you're seeing players a couple of years out of high school that look like they could play pro. The concepts are better. The coaching's better at college. And so both of them share, you know, concepts and schemes. But to be a college coach, the players choose you. To be an NFL coach, you choose the players. So charisma and personality matter a lot. I mean, I've been in the presence of Nick Saban. He is a charmer. Marcus Freeman, Sark, they all have the ability to put on the salesman hat. And that's not a criticism.
Starting point is 00:04:33 That is the reality of being a college basketball or football coach. It doesn't work that way as a pro coach. You don't have to do that. In fact, there's an argument that I talked to Jimmy Johnson about this. He did not want to have deep relationships with players outside of a quarterback, because the reality was the quarterback is the coach on the field. Jimmy had his coaches coaching the players. Jimmy coached the coaches.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But he didn't want too many relationships with players. That's what most coaches are all about. Outside of a quarterback where he is essentially your mouthpiece and the coach on the field. So there was a great exchange this weekend, Brady Edelman-Gronk on the Fox NFL pregame show about Belichick to college. We heard this week that Bill Belichick is actually interviewing for college jobs. Can you imagine him coaching college? No. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I think there's a lot of things he can do. And obviously, he's tremendous and even showing his personality. But getting out there on the recruiting trail and dealing with all these college kids, that would be. Could you imagine with NIL? Could you imagine Bill on a couch recruiting an 18-year-old? Listen, you really want to come here. I mean, we don't really want you anyway. But I mean, I guess you could come.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We'll figure out if you play. If you bring your parents and you're on the third. party, you're gone, you're off the team. Yeah, it's just, it's a different world, and I think Bill, his last couple of years, I thought in the NFL a little bit, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:03 a little tone deaf for some of the cultural offensive changes in the league. And the other thing is, and you see this with the Bobby Knights and the legendary older coaches, they want control. Well, I got news for you. That's why Pete
Starting point is 00:06:17 Carroll got into trouble in Seattle. He wanted to control drafts. And John Snyder's like, I'm out of here. I'm going to Detroit. The ownership, the Allen group brought him back. And now that John Snyder controls the drafts, Seattle's one of the best drafting teams in the league. So these coaches, because they all know they're on the hot seat unless they win the Super Bowl every third year, they want control of the personnel. Bill Parcells famously said, you know, if I'm going to make the dinner, I'm going to shop for the groceries.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Like, I get coach's perspective. But Andy Reid's figured it out. Brett Veach, you run it, all coach. And that's the way to do it. If you don't trust, that's why the Bears and the Jets jobs are problematic. If you're a coach, do you trust the guy upstairs? Kansas City's like, when the Patriots were at their best, Belichick was trusting Scott Piole.
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Starting point is 00:12:04 Great, Colin, let's get started with a shocker in the NFL. The Carolina Panthers, who have been horrendous for years, are favored for the first time in two years. Wow. They are two and a half-point favorites against Dallas. They've been getting money. so far the last couple days, which I'm still stunned by. Now, Dallas is coming off the Monday night football loss, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And they lost overshone, the really good promising defender who was kind of a heartbeat of that team. So things are working against the Cowboys. I'll just say this. Mike McCarthy, I know he doesn't have a contract going forward. He's gotten his guys up for every game. They've fallen apart in some second halfs. But in the first half of every game, they are showing up fighting. And he's doing it with a backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You can't say that for like the Bears who rolled over like dogs. Okay, the Jets have just been embarrassed in the first half of the game. I thought the Jets played their best game of the season. Yeah, against Miami. I thought they really played well. A lot of these teams are, you're seeing just no-shows. First half, like, Tennessee's giving up 35 points.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You know, Jacksonville doesn't have anything. Cowboys are fighting. I don't know what to do with this. I kind of think you take Dallas if you're getting three points. Are you betting? Well, I mean, I don't think Caroline is good enough to surrender points to anybody.
Starting point is 00:13:16 so if it got to three, Dallas is absolutely the play. But I would argue, I've watched Carolina like you have. They're always a corner TV team. But the Philadelphia game, I watched them. And my take is Bryce Young, his ability to slide in the pocket, throw the ball accurately and move. Carolina looks like, you know, and we talked about this. Gino was reborn, Darnold Reborn, Baker reborn with a right, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:40 Liam Cohen down for Baker, Kevin O'Connell for Darnold, and Grubb in Seattle. the guy from University of Washington, the Seahawks. You look at that new coach in Carolina. Canales knows his stuff. It's working. It is absolutely working. Bryce Young will get at least one more year and looks.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He can move. I like his movement. There's something there. I talked to his high school coach. Mark Sanchez and I were at an event, and the high school coach of Bryce Young was there, and I asked him, I like modern day, best player you've ever had in high school.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And he named two, and Bryce Young was the other one. And I was like, You've had a hundred division one players, and he's like, Bryce Young was different. Hopefully rebounds. Next story is Matt Stafford, Colin, he's on a bit of a heater lately. Now, if you remember, last December, he also got hot, helped propel the ramp to the playoffs. Ten touchdowns, no picks during a four-game streak. This year, Stafford is cooking once again.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Ten touchdowns in his last four games hasn't thrown a pick in a month. Stafford talked about protecting the football. Every pick kind of has its own story But yeah Just trying to keep our team in it as best I can Be as disciplined as I can While still being you know aggressive and giving our guys
Starting point is 00:14:53 Opportunities to make plays Because they're doing a great job of that for me right now Every interception has its own story How true is that? That's really true You know what's happened with him Remember when they played Chicago earlier this year He had a really bad pick
Starting point is 00:15:07 It was a really ugly pick And Manto has been one of those guys Because he's so aggressive He can give you an ugly clunker. Like, Mahalms will give you one about once every three weeks. You're like, oh, that's brutal. Josh Allen can throw one. But when you get him upright,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and their offensive line is finally, mostly healthy. Now, their first draft pick is probably going to be an offensive tackle. But when you give Stafford time, I think people forget here's what's working for Stafford. I get McVeigh, Tyron Williams, Cooper Cup, Pooka Nakua.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like, that's, if I said to you, head coach, quarterback, top two weapons running back. I would put the Rams in a very, very Philadelphia Eagles elite group. If I just said, again, coach quarterback running back two weapons. Rams are Rams because their coach is vastly superior to Sierra. So that's my thing. When people sell the Rams, this is an offensive league and they are five star at key position. Left tackle, they're hit and miss. Right tackle, they're great.
Starting point is 00:16:08 The lions or the Rams with that? Well, I get the best left tackle arguably. football and a good quarterback and two backs. You're just doing two weapons. I would say Detroit's one. Because I think, I think Dan Campbell's proven himself. Gough isn't staffer, but he's good, best left tackle, best running back tandem, and Amar on St. Brown is great. I think Detroit's got, I mean, Penaiseu. I've just got to lean McVeigh over Campbell. That's okay. I'm good with it, but they're both excellent. Yeah. Final story is, oh, NBA spicy story here. So the Miami Heat are reportedly listening to offers for Jimmy Butler, aka Jimmy Buckets.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Six-time All-Star's agent has told people around the league, Butler would prefer to join. Wait for it, Colin. The Warriors, Mavericks, or Rockets. And if you're watching Jimmy Butler dominate, he took the heat to the finals twice. This guy is a guy. I would worry about his age.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think he fits the Warriors, but they have to get rid of that Wiggins deal then. Move off Wiggins at all. heartbeat. Well, I think where he fits, actually, if you're asking me where he fits, it's Dallas by a mile. Because he's an elite defensive player. He's got the blue braids now. Oh, he does he really? Yeah, and blue is a color of the Mavericks. Dallas is a championship team. Dallas can go toe to toe with Boston if you give him Jimmy Butler. He is a luck. I don't know who you move off there. You're not moving off Kyrie. You're not moving off Clay. Obviously not Luca.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That is a boy, if he goes to Dallas, that is a roster. That is a squad. Yeah, because it's the playoffs, it's basically your top seven or eight guys play, that's it. You know, you don't need depth. That is a squad. You've got to give up draft picks. Pat Riley loves draft picks. You're giving up lively? Probably, yeah. But he doesn't get paid anything, so you've got to give up money somewhere.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And they have bailouts. Would you move Clay? I don't think they're doing that. I think they would. What is Miami doing with Clay Thompson? No. Not going anywhere. You're right. They want picks, and they probably want young guys. Interesting. Got to have matching salary somewhere. That's why they pay these guys the big bucks.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Front office guys. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly. Well, one of the really good games this week is Red Hot Tampa Bay and Baker at the Chargers. And Justin Herbert, Mark Sanchez, will be doing that Sunday, 4-Eastern on Fox. And Mark joins us now live as he is prone to do.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We love him. He's also going to have some good Jalen Hurt stuff because it's interesting. Green Bay and Philadelphia are now run first. teams despite having enormous talent. Let me ask you about this. I said this year or day, I think Rex Ryan back to the Jets fits because I think they need a culture guy. And Rex is loud, and he doesn't care what you think,
Starting point is 00:18:54 and you can't whimper into New York. But now, Harbaugh's personality is quirkier, but similarly authentic. He has taken the same defense. The same dudes. And now you're starting looking at film for your game, Bucks Chargers, is it a schematic thing? Like, how can you take worse to first, Mark? Explain that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It happens every year. It seems to, at least, in one of the divisions, some team just surprises everybody. And then it's the sustainability of that surprise and their resurgence. But I think when it comes to the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh, it's important to look at their schedule. They're beating up or winning the games that they should win.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yes. And they're getting quality wins, right? Then in the big time games, maybe against Baltimore, or maybe against Kansas City. Yes. They're competitive until the end. They're not getting blown off the map. So now you're building this equity, sweat equity,
Starting point is 00:19:48 and confidence equity, if you will, with that staff, with the players, you give them a little bit. They see success. They want to go back to that well. Hey, give me more. Coach me harder. Teach me something new. Give me the big picture.
Starting point is 00:20:02 They are completely bought in. And you can tell. Now, the ball is going to bounce one way or the other. Sure. Do I think they have the right? roster to win the Super Bowl this year, that'd be a stretch. It'd be a real stretch, you know? But that doesn't mean their next step has to be Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I mean, if they get into the playoffs, if they beat out Denver for this wildcard in the ASC West, because the Chiefs already got it, right? If they can be a wildcard team and get in the playoffs, you never know. Go back to 2009, we weren't supposed to go to the playoffs. We went to bed after losing to Atlanta, we thought we were out of the playoffs. the very next day, we showed up at the facility, and Rex said, hey, we're win and we're in. We're like, whoa, we got in,
Starting point is 00:20:43 and not only did we get in, we won two. Wow. So the chargers could easily do that. You get somebody, somebody sustains a big injury before the buy week. You know, there's a lot of things that can happen. So just getting in that tournament is really the next rung on the ladder for them, and they got some good games down the stretch. The, you know, it's, I asked Josh McDaniel this.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I said, we always look at winning close games as valuable. And I said, but it could be exhausted. First of all, when you win close games, it's very celebratory. You know, half time, the Lions, half the time, they're just trying to eat the clock and get back on the flight. A lot of four-minute offense prep. Yeah, right. So I look at Kansas City, and I think, okay, here's the upside. They're winning.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And then I'm like, that's a lot of crisis management. I mean, go to the team and your New York team was a lot of. close, tough, physical, grueling winds. Does that wear on you? It's definitely becomes an endurance issue. How long can you take it? And don't forget, they're on an incredible run right now, right, of the last few years. So they're seasoned longer. Everybody else starts, you know, working out a couple weeks after their season ends. And these guys don't get to even start. They're trying to cool down from a red hot season every year. So the longevity of the season is an issue.
Starting point is 00:22:05 it becomes an endurance issue. How long can you sustain it? But the other side of the coin, if I'm Andy Reed, and I know this is, I could all but guarantee this is how he's spinning it, they're getting more live, high-speed action reps at game management, critical situations on the call sheet. It's G-H-I, got to have it. Like, this is it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 This is your chance to throw that ball quarterback, fourth down, doesn't matter, has to get airborne, give your guys a chance. I mean, this is what you dream of as a kid. These are the situations you draw up in the backyard. I mean, oh, we got three seconds left. We got one play to win it. They get it every week. How do we manage the clock?
Starting point is 00:22:48 How do we handle all these situations? And if you're looking for a silver lining, these guys are going to be experts. All of them, all the players by now can, like, reteach from their film the last seven or eight games and just go through the end-of-game situation as if they were the coach. prepping the team for that. There's something to be said for that because you can tell when it comes down to it, when it's got to have it, these dudes are all on the same page. And it's
Starting point is 00:23:13 because they have so many reps at it. You had a unique situation where you only knew Pete Carroll as a college coach, but he had been in the NFL. So Belichick to Carolina. Now Pete is different. Pete has the energy of like when you had him of a 24 year old, now it's of a 34 year old. That's not Belichick. He's not as charismatic as Pete is. And Pete just walks in. to a room and owns it and the gum chewing it, frenetic, whatever. Sure. But what, when you were at USC, and you didn't know the NFL at the point, but you'd gone to a great and legendary high school, what did Pete bring from the NFL to college
Starting point is 00:23:48 that you thought really worked? Did you feel like this is a pro coach and not a college guy? Well, I didn't totally know the difference to be fair. At that point, I hadn't seen what that next level was like, but he brought so much energy and charisma that you alluded to. I think the other thing too is these kids, we want to be coached. The good ones, the good programs, find kids that want to be groomed into the best player they can be and set them up for the next level. And it felt like Pete was doing that for us. He also had that added aspect of, and I know Michael Irvin alluded to this when he spoke about Dion Sanders, but that fatherly or figure of
Starting point is 00:24:29 wisdom. Pete had that? Yeah, absolutely, because he's not just a coach, he's a teacher. I'm not going to teach you this just for football, but these, you know, principles I'm teaching you about the hard work, being on time, no whining, no complaining, team first attitude, that's going to help you in life, whether you never play another down again. You know what I mean? So you got a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So Pete was giving that. And I think Coach Belichick has that as well. I think bottom line to this college football deal is I don't care if it's Belichick and it's hard-nosed and there's, you know, this emotionless existence and all we're about is winning football games. Now, I think that's an exaggerated take on who he is, but he's more that than Pete and the happy, sunshine, rainbow stuff. Okay, fine. The bottom line to this college football thing is, are they going to invest enough money in paying these players? You either put money in the well of players. I'm dressed to go coach North Carolina right now. If you give me $100 million, I guarantee you
Starting point is 00:25:23 all get a competitive roster together, and I don't know how to coach. I'd find some guys who do. Now, I'm not saying it's easy. I'm just saying you have opportunities if you use the resources or allow them to have the resources. So as much as they're trying to figure out, like, is he a good fit or not? Shoot, some of these kids don't really care. I want to get coach. I want to go to the NFL. He's got experience with that.
Starting point is 00:25:44 He knows how to coach. How much am I making? That's what it turns into. So before we go to the break, Jalen Hurts stuff, I want to ask you something. I said the other day that I don't look at the recruiting day like I used to because the portal, is about 30% of your roster. So my take is... Colts football is the NFL, no salary cap,
Starting point is 00:26:03 everybody's on a one-year deal. And no NFLPA, no players association. But I am a little concerned, and I hear this from my contacts at USC, Lincoln's inability to really get any coalition among Southern California kids. Bama this year got more Southern California kids than USC. Does that concern you?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Well, I think if you're going to be powerhouse in Southern California, you got to own California when it comes to recruiting. Back of the days when Pete Carroll was recruiting this state, and I remember Ed Ogeron talking about it, and when he even see other coaches show up at LAX when they're going to poach, when our coaches from S.C. are going to poach players from other, he would just ask him, what are you doing here? You on vacation? They're like, no, we're going to Monterey Day. We're going to Mission Viejo to go look at some players. He's like, for what? They're coming to S.C., dude. You must be on vacation. They ain't going to you. So that was the whole.
Starting point is 00:26:57 thing, right? We had California locked down. The craziest part to me is like when I'd get letters from some of these schools, I didn't know where Tuscaloosa, Alabama was on a map. I'm sorry, I just didn't. I came from SoCal, maybe that's on me. Fine.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But geographically, I didn't know where Clemson and South Carolina what. I didn't know what state Clemson was in. The fact that these guys are going from Southern California to somewhere that they can't even point out on a map in Alabama, I mean, that's mind-boggling to me. but that's the way it's been.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Those teams have been better. We went through the sanctions, a lot of coaching turnover. There's a lot of factors there. Bottom line is, if you're going to be competitive, if you just locked down the top recruits in California, you're competitive in the season right away. Think about it. Two years are the best kids in California.
Starting point is 00:27:44 All 20 of them have to come to your school. I'd take it against the rest of the country any day, just like Texas would, just like Florida would. And you'd have a legitimate chance to win ball games based on talent alone, purely talent. So if we're losing those guys to these other places, then what? I always feel recruiting local kids the advantage is. Mom and dad are in town.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Oh, it's nice. And they read the paper. It's a wonderful thing. But some kids just want to get away. I get it. And some kids, it's a better situation somewhere else. Sure. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:15 And also, hey, I could always come back to SC because there's this thing called the portal. And if it doesn't work out and you're one somewhere else, then I'll just go right back. But you see the amount of players that we're getting from. California, it's on a steady decline and then a sharp decline towards the end. So I think that's a real point of emphasis. You've got to find the best players in California. You've got to make them commit to making this school what it can be. Okay, we take a break.
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Starting point is 00:28:57 Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:29:12 So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
Starting point is 00:29:40 Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:32:47 Carolina is working to close the deal on him. So if Bill Belichick wants it and signs it, Belichick to Carolina, not sure it's going to work, but I think it's going to be fascinating. I will watch Carolina football. I'm dressed for the part with my Carolina Blue. Coach, Belichick, I'm here. You know, nothing against Josh McDaniels, but I'm here.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Maybe I can be the quarterback coach. He'll be the signal caller. There you go. Okay, I got two pieces of tape I want to show. Let's spend at least one minute on this. A.J. Brown Unhampy, called out by a teammate with J. Jalen Hertz, but they're running more, yet they're winning more, and the offense is more efficient.
Starting point is 00:33:21 What do you do? I think it's good problems to have. I'd prefer to handle a lot of the. stuff in-house, especially in that market. Poor Bob Lang, the PR guy from Philly is working overtime, I'm sure, this week. So I feel for that. And I think the unhappiness or frustration for this stuff is the lack of execution on a couple different fronts, but mainly when the quarterback is dropping back to pass, I think there's a couple miscues and, you know, a little bit of a misfire here or there.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And he's showing that he's, a lot of his demeanor and eyes and footwork and timing are usually in the right place, but the ball's not coming out. Okay. And so it's a little frustrating for the receivers is kind of what I'm gathering, based on the emotional media side
Starting point is 00:34:10 and then the, you know, cut throat execution tape. So when we go to this tape, let's go to it. I think it's important to understand how these reads really work. And for Jalen, there is a such thing as a,
Starting point is 00:34:22 pure progression where no matter what, I'm going one through five, or a pre-snap look, where you need to know the down and distance is third and eight. Okay. The defense is going to show me a look, and I have to start my progression either to the right or to the left, whatever I'm, you know, breaking down. Am I working the isolation side or the combination side, either to Devante Smith or not? So he sees man to man. He's looking first at Devonte Smith, or Devonte, yeah, Devonte Smith, excuse me, they're going
Starting point is 00:34:50 to double them. They're going to play cloud to his. side. The corner's going to bump up. The safety's going to take half the field so he's doubled. The safeties on the other side are playing quarters. Each of them have a quarter of the field. I'm going to work the trip side in my read. I'm going to work to the right instead of working to Devante. So Devante's dead to me. I'm working this whole combination up top. You're working Calcutera down the middle. If you love it, great. If not, cool. Devonte's dead. He's got doubled, right? So we've established that. He's out. Now Calcutera is my alert down the middle,
Starting point is 00:35:21 alive during split safety, you could argue he could rip this ball to Calcutera on this play and have a huge explosive pass. The next guy in the slot, he's just running for the love of the game, clearing it out for who really is number one outside A.J. Brown. The next progression, after you check your alert, you don't like it, you go A.J. Brown to the halfback. As soon as he gets his football, watch his feet. He's throwing a 14-yard hinge route or a Harvey on the outside of number three, right, to AJ Brown. I'd prefer a three hitch and throw. He wants to go quick five, eyes to the right spot. He's got his eyes on number one. He's determined from this pre-snap look. I'm going to throw it, and then the ball doesn't come out. Okay, fine. If you don't like it,
Starting point is 00:36:03 that's okay. I'd argue rip that ball off three steps and a hitch. If you don't like it, that's what the backs for. That is what the backs for. Dump it to him inside shoulder. He splits the two, first down. Fly, eagles fly. Well, okay, we're going to run out and do these trick shot throws on the edge and make life really hard. Now, this is where you get away with it, right? He makes up for it because he either scrambles for the first down or he makes the throw like this, right? And it looks, everything's fine. Well, let's go to this next club. Okay? They end up scoring on that drive. Let's go to the end of the first half. Yeah. I'm trying to double up on points. I'm trying to kick a field goal at worst, then get the ball in the third quarter, which they were going to do.
Starting point is 00:36:46 and now we jump this team. We lap them. Okay, where's this safety going? It's another pre-snap look. Now, this is quick game, so there's no checkdown. And he's got man-to-man across the board. Yeah. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Well, how are they going to play the middle of the field? Because I need to know, am I working to the left or to the right? They're going to cut this read in half. So, Jalen's looking at the back, looking at the two backers. He knows it's man-to-man. How are they playing the middle? They're going to banjo the back. That means whichever side the back goes to, that backer's going to take them.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The other guy fill in. Now, when you do that, since the back is displaced left, and then goes right, there goes the backer up top with him. He's got to take him. He's coming to my side. He's mine. Boom. This other backer fills in. There's nobody in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So now you got two in-breaking routes versus off-coverage man-to-man inside leverage. And you've got two top-10 receivers on the left side of the field that are ready for this. You have a great call here. You have two in-breaking routes versus off-inside coverage man-to-man. work it inside out catch left foot right foot ball is out to number one inside to number two outside that's it now watch him again from the slot there goes devonte smith you don't like that okay fine even if you make the argument that you don't like that throw you felt this guy triggering okay great there's no excuse why this ball doesn't go to a j brown i don't understand
Starting point is 00:38:10 i i genuinely don't understand and he's he's done these plays before i've seen him executed on film. I can show you 20 clips of him doing it. Confidence? I don't know if it's a confidence thing. I don't know if it's a short circuit thing. I don't know what it is. But when you go back and look at this and then he has to jump up and just throw the ball away, this time Devonte wasn't available for the special scramble splash play. So now it looks terrible. The other one would have looked as bad if he didn't complete the ball. So he's got open guys. There's guys open. And so when, you know, AJ Brown makes the knee-jerk reaction emotional response, which I wish he wouldn't have. But it's
Starting point is 00:38:45 clear what he's talking about is stuff like this. And it's not just him. There's other guys open, too. The ball should have gone to Seyquan Barkley. The ball could have gone to Devonte Smith inside. It's not just one guy. And so, listen, is this stuff fixable? Absolutely. But it's, you know, at some point, you got to cut that ball loose. Just let it go. Jalen, you know the reeds. You know the footwork. You know where your eyes are supposed to go. Cut it loose. Hayes in the barn. You know what to do. Show me. Just let the ball out of your hand. Because he's accurate enough, he's strong enough, he makes those splash plays, like, it's all there for him.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And so I think they're just frustrated that I mean, they could be blowing teams out with like two or three more plays that are executed a little bit better. We're talking a little bit better, and they're beating teams by 14, 21 points. So it's, I think that's where this team has to make
Starting point is 00:39:38 a jump and, you know, fix those issues relationally and execution wise. Okay, finally a minute and a half left. Belichick looks like the ball is in his court, according to Adam Schaefter. J. Mack, you think Belichick's going to succeed at
Starting point is 00:39:53 Carolina. I do not long term. I mean, year one, I think long term, it doesn't feel right to me. You're yay. I'm nay. You land west. How much do we have in the NIL? Slush fund? Then I'll say yes or no.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Because if it's 50 million plus or whatever these big time schools are, 7,500. Yes. For the record. A hard yes. Are they going to be SMU or not? Where did SMU come from? They just suddenly won a bunch of games? Where did all those players come from?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh my God, they locked down all their home talent? It's crazy. Okay. Indiana came out of nowhere. Just Transfer Portal, NIL. It can be done. Give me the number, and I'll tell you yes or no. On Carolina.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Well, that's what's disturbing about USC. Their collective is up to $18 million annually, and they're six and six. So the other teams, where's Georgia? where's Texas, where's Ohio State? Well, they were at 18, they may be at 20 now. I'm just saying that's what I'm hearing. I think they'd be way north of that, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Okay. Yeah. Okay, so Bill Belichick, it's going to be back to college. That Rodney Dangerfield movie? It's back, Bill's back to college. I don't know. Listen, I'm in the interesting business. I'm watching their games.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Oh, 100%. I'm watching it just because of him. There's no question. Find me Raycom's I need an ACC game on my television set. Thanks, Mark. We'll see you tomorrow with the herd. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:41:27 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. tired and sick listen to hey jonas on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast just listen we don't care where you hear it another podcast from some s nl late night comedy guy
Starting point is 00:41:55 not quite unhumored me with robert smigle and friends me and hilarious guests from bob odenkirk to david letterman help make you funnier this week my guest s n l's mikey day and head writer streeter sidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter where does your group perform we do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the
Starting point is 00:42:29 possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole. This podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, hope from a hypocrite I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice. known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises
Starting point is 00:43:31 of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to, he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love.
Starting point is 00:43:45 This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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