The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - More on Bill Belichick

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman joins the show in studio to talk about his former coach, the legendary Bill Belichick, and if it's time for the Patriots to move onSee omnystudio.com/listener... for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 So when you retired, is there anything now you do? Because Tom couldn't do that when he played. Yeah. Is there anything now you do that you didn't do as a player? Yeah. Snowboard. What you do? Yeah, I grew up snowboarding.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I was a northern California kid. I used to go to Tahoe every year. And as soon as I went to Ohio for Kent State, I didn't snowboard until then. And then as soon as I retired, I went down and went to Aspen and snowboarded for the first time, like riding a bike. Like riding a bike. Really? Never forgot it. No, but it was crazy because the last time I was snowboarding, I was probably like 165 pounds and doing, you know, you're like a little gymnast kid. Now I'm like 200 pounds.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It was like, oh, this is a lot different. You're moving more inventory. Oh, my knee, I can feel that. Rotation. Oh, the ankles aren't as flexible. So we go into the playoffs here in a week. Do you miss the intensity of that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah, you missed that because the urgency and that corner animal mentality kind of just shoots through the roof because the game is in the playoffs. I always explain this to people. When you get to preseason, you do training camp. training camp first day of pads you guys hit it's faster than when you don't have pads then you have that first that first preseason game against a guy that you haven't been practicing against for two weeks and it's just that much faster and then you get to the regular season when you shape the team and it's like all right this is this is pro football and then you get to the playoffs and
Starting point is 00:03:44 each round of the playoffs it just shoots through the roof because you got guys that are leaving everything on the field i mean you either win or you go home so you know there's there's guys there's a lot of calculated risk in the regular season. You play for your money in the regular season. You play for your name in the postseason. It's interesting because I think of your dynasty and I think of those Raven games where I thought Baltimore had a little more talent.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's a little more, and you beat him a lot. And I think, not in the much as deal, I think of the Peyton Manning matchups. And like, you know, I don't get nervous watching sports very often, but you were like, you could, palpable, I'd be like, oh, Peyton looks a little, he doesn't like this snow. He didn't like it. So there are, we were talking about this.
Starting point is 00:04:23 a lot of the dynasties have been Pittsburgh cold weather, New England cold weather, the teams that went, San Francisco Bay Weather, Green Bay, Philly, you start looking at cold. This weekend in the Northeast, if Miami had to go play up in that crap, it'd be like, did you guys feel as a northern team when you'd see a dome team come up? When you'd see Miami come up, did you feel like this is ours? Yeah, we practiced in the elements, whether it was raining, pouring. Always? Always.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Bill, put your it on and get outside. You know what I mean? Like, that's what he would say. He goes, it's snowing. I'm letting you know it's snowing. Put your stuff on and let's go. It's a good opportunity for you to take advantage of this situation of being in the weather, which we play in weather.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And, you know, whenever you had it, like, whenever we would play those Denver, those Denver teams when we were going to Denver against Peyton Man. No, we were praying. It was when Peyton Manning was in Denver, we were praying that it was going to be a snow storm, windy, and every time we played them, they beat us twice there. It was 75 in Sunny in January. And we're like, God, you know, but we were very acclimated to weather
Starting point is 00:05:40 and we did feel like we had an advantage anytime we played a team that wasn't used to weather in weather. So I had said this with Belichick, he and KraftMeet Monday, that Bill is intimidating. He's got the bag. He's got the legacy. I don't know if he can work with a young offensive coach. I think you work under Bill,
Starting point is 00:05:57 and Bill sort of sets the tone at practice games personnel. So to me, you're going to stay with Bill. You've got to rent the Band-Aid off. But the idea you can bring in a bunch of young guys, and Bill's going to be like, oh, yeah, tell me who to draft. That doesn't feel like Bill. Am I wrong? I don't think you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, this is going to be an interesting situation. You know, I heard your take, you know, Bill's notorious for cutting guys a year, two, three before they're out of their crime. That's his thing. And Bill is the first one to tell you that this is a production business. That's what he told us every time. I mean, I remember going in and negotiating with him on my last deal. He goes, what do you want? I go, I want 20 for the next two.
Starting point is 00:06:38 He goes, Jules, you just had, I just won Super 1VP. And he goes, look, Jules, you're 33 years old, 32 years old. you're coming off an ACL. Like, I can't give you that. Like, that's the kind of guy is. So this is going to be a very tough conversation because they're both going to lay out their points. Mr. Kraft and Jonathan are probably going to say,
Starting point is 00:06:57 look at what we've done here in this situation or this side of the ball or this, whatever. He's going to have his, and it's going to have to come out somewhere in between. And hopefully they could do it professionally because they both needed both of each other for such a long time. and, you know, it's been such a great thing for such a long time. You just hope it's handled properly.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I was saying this that outside of Brady, but even Brady felt like a team guy, is that the playoffs, you know, star quarterbacks tend to do well. You have an advantage. But there is sort of a working class ethos to the playoffs, where fewer turnovers win, better tackling wins. like I look at Baltimore and I'm like they're just hard Baltimore's hard and they've done it with a star
Starting point is 00:07:51 quarterback and I do think I look at them and and I just feel like that's a hard physical team that's the best team I've seen not just results but I always felt with New England you were all hard there was a lot of overachievers and I don't the word I'm using is wrong but the playoffs is a lot of testing a man's soul
Starting point is 00:08:13 The weather sucks. Practice is hard. Everybody's kind of hurt. Everybody's like, and I think Baltimore's a hard, but great team, and I think it matters now. Am I crazy talk? No, the one thing that I get scared with Baltimore is that they get bored with teams sometimes.
Starting point is 00:08:34 They lose two or three games a year that they have no business losing. And then they go and do what they did against San Francisco and blow them out. You know, they're one of those teams where, you know, they could start kind of slow, they miss on a third down, or they don't have a good red area plan for that specific opening drive, and then all of a sudden the team jumps out of them or, you know, last year against, you know, Miami where they were beating up Miami, they came back. Like, I feel like they just get bored sometimes, and they get lack of focusy. I think that's the only thing that can really stop them. I do think San Francisco losing to them the way they did was a great thing for San Francisco. That's what I thought. You know, when you get to see Lamar in person, I mean, it's good to have that on film.
Starting point is 00:09:23 You get to go car on car when you're preparing them for the next time, as we would say. Same cars, different license plate. Now you get the same cars. We get, you know, film of your guys on their guys, schemes, and you can do a whole lot with that. So I think that was a good thing, but it's definitely Baltimore's to lose. Does pressure matter? Now, again, it's funny because you guys were so efficient in big games. And when I watched the college games this week, I could see how nervous Michigan was.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It looked at that first pass. And I'm thinking, oh, those are 19-year-old kids. How do you avoid, and you were often a home favorite, how do you avoid nerves and anxiety? you lean on your preparation you know whenever I would get nervous individually before a game which I would get nervous every game I would just get on my tip sheet our coach would make us a tip sheet of the play call sheet
Starting point is 00:10:19 you go over and you just kind of it's like explain what it is a tip sheet is pretty much your call sheet has all the boxes of what your first and second down plays are your third down plan your red area plan your four point play plan your two minute plan before half your two-minute plan before and end the game, just to kind of get your mind in condition for when the situation pops,
Starting point is 00:10:45 I already knew what the play was coming because of what we practiced that week, then it allows me to think on my opponent and how do I make my job better for that specific play. So I would always lean on that, just kind of cramming before the test, so to say, whenever I was nervous and whenever you had a great week of prep, whenever you had a great week of prep, it always showed on the game film. You know, these games are all decided by a play.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I go back to a game in which, I think it was third quarter, you threw a touchdown pass, you were out in the flat. And I saw Detroit the other day against Dallas did a fake punt, and I've always wondered this, because you occasionally would be part of a huge trick play
Starting point is 00:11:28 in a crisis moment late in the third. And I always think to myself, when you break the huddle, how do you not have a tell, like in poker? Like, this is the game. Did you think about a lot of times, this play could happen, it will be the biggest play in the game. You knew going against Baltimore. The game's going to be close. Yeah. It's not going to be a shootout.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You know what the game's going to be. This is going to be the moment. You pass it one time. I don't even know if you can pass in warmups because they're looking at you. Yeah. Right? Yeah. but I would always
Starting point is 00:12:00 so with that play in in the game plan I would always play catch with Brady before the series so I kind of would always kind of dial in and try to get a couple warmups in but I that was a huge thing I originally I was going to take off my glove because I didn't like throwing with
Starting point is 00:12:17 the glove on but then you know if I take off my glove there's something up you never know and so yeah you would try to make everything be as normal normal as possible We used to have with those kind of plays
Starting point is 00:12:32 or a double move route or a double move, we always used to have this thing. You got to be like Pacino. You have to be a great actor. You got to be a great actor. You know what I mean? It was one thing that me and Brady always used to say,
Starting point is 00:12:46 like, Joel, Pacino, if I was doing like a slow go, you know what I mean? Make them eat the slant first. You know, or in these trick plays, you got to make everything, there's a little active. involved. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So as hot seat, you know, we have all these coaches, you know, I was saying McCarthy's funny, our staff has this. If you put Mike McCarthy and John Harbaugh's history up, it's the same thing. I mean, division titles, winning for everything. The difference is
Starting point is 00:13:17 Mike was in Green Bay where you don't have an owner, which is weird, it's cool to have an owner and go to Robert Kraft and say, we need an edge rusher. We've got to write a check. Green Bay didn't have that. Now he's in Dallas a little bit of a meddling owner. Harbaugh's had, Steve Bouchardy's like, is it, like one of the five owners in the league that's one of the grownups. And so, but it's funny, if Harbaugh loses in the, he wins a playoff game and loses, nobody's firing Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But if McCarthy doesn't win his second, let's say he beats Green Bay at home, goes to Detroit and loses, McCarthy's on the hot seat. And I'm like, isn't he Harbaugh? What's the difference? Dallas Cowboys. So you think it's just that? It is definitely just that. I mean, we're on Fox. We talk about the Cowboys every day, baby.
Starting point is 00:14:05 This is America's team. The light shine a little brighter when you're in Dallas, when you're the quarterback and the head coach. That's just how it goes. And for people to say, well, Harbaugh and Harbaugh won a Super Bowl with the team he's with right now. You know, for whatever reason, McCarthy's never won a Super Bowl in Dallas. Dallas haven't been to a Super Bowl in 30 years since Michael Irvin retired.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's a long time for the most valued sports organization in the world. So it's tough being the Dallas Cowboys head coach. It's kind of like being a Notre Dame head coach. It's one of those destination spots or what else, Ohio State. They're about to fire their coach who's got four losses in his career. I mean, there's certain brands. where you have to win. And if you don't, you know, you're on the hot seat.
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Starting point is 00:18:30 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you ever ever think about this? I don't make as much money as I can make other places. I could plan better weather.
Starting point is 00:18:51 State tax in Massachusetts eats up. Was there ever a month? despite your success. You thought, you know, Miami's got, I'm getting old. I'd feel away. Did you ever have a moment that you thought about other places and thought, man, that guy's making that? Nobody in New England got overpaid.
Starting point is 00:19:09 No, because, you know, at free agent times of my career, teams that were interested in me that, you know, were offering more money or something along those lines. like what are you going to go and have a new coaching staff in two years? Like the security, the familiarity, you know, the message of what the mindset was for the organization was something that, like, I didn't want to leave. And by the time you get, you're in your ninth, tenth, year, like, do I want to go learn a new playbook? Do I want to go, you know, it's a lot of work. you then become a rookie again. You got to get the flash cards out.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You got to learn the personnel groups. You got to learn the four. Because I only played in one system. You know, I didn't know the number system. I didn't know the West Coast system. You're sitting here and like, it's not a lot, but. It's a lot. It's a lot where you want to be a technician.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You know what I mean? So I didn't really think about it. The older you got with the practice, that's when it was hard. The Bill Runja. Yeah, you know, it's January in practice. You know, you just had a knee scope, and it's 21 degrees with the wind chill of eight, and you don't have the heaters outside on practice. You don't get the jackets outside for practice.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's like it's miserable. You know, I remember as a rookie, you go in there. You wouldn't wear sleeves. You'd be a tough guy by the end. I mean, I was looking like the little kid Randy from the Christmas story. You all snowed up. It was nuts. J-Mack, you didn't have much experience with winning as a Jets fan,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but this is what winning looks like when you retire. Look at that. I thought you were going to say winning as a kid. That's why I'm so competitive now as an adult athlete. Julian, we're looking for guys on our men's basketball team. Basketball, I'm a football player. He's physical. You guys are all finesse.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You guys are fruit-frue drinks after you win a big game. By the way, Julian, Belichick landing in Carolina, yes or no? No shot. I don't think so. A better chance of retirement? David Teper does not, you can't respect coaches if you fire a guy with that roster after nine games. Yeah. I think this, if coach goes somewhere else, the situation, the roster, everything's going to have to be.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Washington. New owner. Would Brady won him in Vegas? McCarthy gets knocked out early. Dallas. Oh, ooh. Say more. Could he go to Dallas?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Dallas? Well, Dax's good enough to win a lot of games. I mean, Bill over there would look, they'd be fundamentally sound. Well, they've got pieces already. They have to get a running back. O-Line's good. They would need a running, yeah. I mean, the O-Lines, top ten.
Starting point is 00:22:05 How many penalties did they have in the playoffs last year? Remember those? Well, how many penalties do they have since they had McCarthy? Yeah, he gets penalties. He gets a lot of penalties. They just led that in the last couple years. And just that whole clock management last week, it just seemed like it was a little big for both those coaches.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Or was it two weeks ago? Detroit Dallas. Like, what are we doing here? It just, the moment looked a little too big for both. Thank you. It did. That's exactly what we led with that day. It looked too big.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It's one thing to, there's a fine line for Dan Campbell, and I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan. I love everything he's done with that organization, but there's a fine line between reckless and aggressive. And he crossed it. And he can't have a two-poil. No one in any offense. of menu has a two-point play from the six or five. No one has a... That is the hard.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's so hard. There's not much space. 70% of your playbook you can't use. No, you usually have two to four, two-point plays. None of them were they work at the six or five, or wherever they were, five yards back. That's tough. That's asking a lot. And plus, the defense was holding Dallas all day.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I mean, they had 20 points. I mean, what are we doing? Thank you. I don't know. Julian Edelman, Fox Sports, you're so money. It's great to have you here. We love having you, man. We really do.
Starting point is 00:23:26 J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. I love stories. Always fun when he comes on and starts. He's just started a brushfire in Dallas. Like, this is going to be everywhere in like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Edelman talking about his old. Let's go, Bill. It'd be a great story. It'd be a great script. This shit's, or... It's okay, brother. Podcasts. I've been podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It's okay, brother. We're good with that. Sorry. Okay, yeah, Joe Flacco. Our show needed that, frankly. Sorry, well. Since the Brown's acquired him. Flacco's been on fire.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Over 1,600 yards 13 touchdowns. Miles Garrett was on speak yesterday. Had this to say about his veterans, QB's impact. I mean, he's giving me grief on other teams. So, you know, it's a little bit different having them, no, the shoe on the other foot. But on this guy, he comes in and not only looking like Safansky, but having that same kind of a meaner where it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:23 nothing changes, you know, his attitude towards the game. He's still going to attack it the same way. Would I just score the touchdown or, you know, I just toss one until the team? God forbid that happens, but it does. And, you know, he just, he's just so relaxed and collected and he makes the offense feel that way every time he comes into the huddle. Look how easy when Flacco throws the ball in that video. for our radio audience, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:24:51 He throws a 50, 55-yard air. The ball's in the air. It is so, he is so strong. Now watch this. So we let's go of it at the 31. It lands at the 16. 13. And it's like, dude, he doesn't even crank it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I mean, he's made every throw in the book. He's been around forever. Everything is, he's so, he's such an effortless thrower. He's throwing the ball 60 air yards. This is like. Probably too hot of a take. Who would you rather face in the wild card round if you're the higher seat? Would you rather have Cleveland coming to town or Miami coming to town?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Miami. No question. I have no interest facing flaco and house money. And they can play physical or up-tempo. I mean, they can do everything. Yeah. My computer's kind of crashing here on me. But the next story is a fun one, Colin. And as soon as it appears on the screen, I'll prepare it.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Trevor Lawrence is not looking good this week. He gave an interview saying he's getting better. every day, but it doesn't sound like he's a lock to start. And look at that line, Colin. It has come all the way down to three and a half. It was five and a half. Well, I don't, did you have this in the place in five or no? No, I mean, he's, I've heard this for four straight weeks. He always plays. Well, he always, he didn't play last week. And with CJ Beatherd, it did not go great. They did win 26-0, but, like, Betherd's not inspiring confidence. I don't know. What do you think? Lawrence forces it here? Like, listen,
Starting point is 00:26:12 if they lose, I don't think they're going to play. I've heard this for six straight weeks, and he's played five of them. So I just, he's going to play. I mean, doesn't he always? Yeah. I mean, last week it got to a point, but I mean, it's like, this has been a story on our show for over a month. And he's missed one. Been a bit of a story.
Starting point is 00:26:29 All right, I did bet the Titans at five and a half, but it doesn't matter because the line's gone. Final story. Now, college football, the transfer portal is popping off here in the last like two hours. A lot of stuff happening. Now, yesterday the big one was Will Howard verbally committed to Ohio State. Did not we predict that Ohio State would be fine. They would get a great quarterback. Take a deep breath.
Starting point is 00:26:49 state will win 11 games next year. Okay, you're saying great. This guy is... He's very good player. It's not like Notre Dame getting Hartman. Oh, no, I think he's very good. Or Pennicks's going to Washington. It's not on that level. He's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He's a big 6-5 quarterback. But Notre Dame doesn't have Ohio State's receivers. He's going to be very good. They'll win the Big 10, I would guess, with him. That just happened within the last hour is Maryland's quarterback, Tua's younger brother. He's pretty interesting player. So it's weird.
Starting point is 00:27:16 He's trying to get an extra year from the NCAA, we don't know if they'll give it to him, but he's in the portal. Now, why would he enter the portal this late? Oh, wait a minute. Alabama's quarterback are terrible. Alabama. He actually started his career at Alabama. I'm not saying he's definitely going there.
Starting point is 00:27:31 But he's a good player. I've watched Maryland twice this year. He's like 23 years old. Yeah, he's a good player. That's an interesting one worth watching. I know you're a big transfer portal guy. The other one is the Ole Miss running back. I'm not going to pretend to butcher his name here.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But like, there's a lot of tampering. You and I both like that. portal a lot. I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's good for college football. But there's a lot of coaches out there sweating now. Oh, season's over. Looking good. We're going to be top 10 next year. Alabama's losing 15 guys in the portal a year, aren't they? They're fine. Well, the guys not totally playing. Right. Right. They're like kind of end of the best. Everybody that enters a portal has an issue. I mean, almost everybody's got something. And remember, when Michigan beats Washington on Monday, sorry, Washington fans, and the Michigan guys all
Starting point is 00:28:13 announced they're going to the pros. There's going to be a lot of open spots on Michigan. So this portal is going to be good for the rest of the, this month. College football. I know people don't love it. This is fun. If you pay attention and consume something you love it. Love and hate are the same. They're an emotion. So if you're into the portal, you love it.
Starting point is 00:28:31 It may make you uncomfortable if you lose a player, but you love what you consume. You eat what you love. But we like the NBA. We're going to watch it. There's a lot of people. Oh, how can you watch the NBA? They just don't like it. You're not into it. Fine. I get it. I don't care. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.
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Starting point is 00:31:22 I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day
Starting point is 00:31:41 But just so y'all know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have AIDS on the table right now So Thank you finishing that sentence
Starting point is 00:31:52 And yes I don't think there's a more important year For black people Really? Yeah For me it's one of the most important years For black people in American history Listen to look back at it
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Starting point is 00:32:31 This is the final week of the regular season. We made it. How many straight weeks is this? 18? I'm just, hold on. I don't. follow my record on this, but I just saw... I don't follow my record. Let me call it up for you here, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, but it's pretty good. I just saw my total total is pretty good. Well done. All right. Let's talk about me more. All right, J. Mack, here we go. Tomorrow's headlines today. Boy, I passed on this one. Colts Texans. You talk me out of this one. Sneaky top three game of the weekend. Honestly, it's a big one. Because the Colts, one of these teams are going to make the playoffs. The headline will be mad about shoe. Indy gives Texans.
Starting point is 00:33:08 the Colt shoulder. I know you watch it so mad about you back in the day. Listen, everybody in their mom is betting on Houston. We get the better quarterback. I was going to take him and you talk me out of it. Revenge spot. Remember the Colts beat him earlier this year. I just, I'm a believer in people changing. You seem to not want to believe that. I look at Gus Bradley's been, you know, a long-time defensive coordinator. He's going to have to adjust. They don't like to blitz. He likes to hang back. Let's play the cover three. That's not going to work. CJ Stroud is going to pick you apart. You've got to come after this guy. I believe the Coltriles. defense finally shows up here, and they have not been great. We needed to stop last week against the Raiders. They couldn't get it. They don't get the cover. I like the Colts offense here. And I think Shane Steichen, he's not going to win coach of the year. It's probably going to be Stefansky, but I'm a believer in the Colts.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Give me the Colts here over the Texans. Tomorrow's headlines today. Saints Falcons are leaned AT. Well, sometimes, you know, we talk each other into stuff. And you won me over here. The headline will be Bed Bath and Bejohn. Saints coupon out of date. I'm going to find.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm doing it. I'm dumb. I'm going with the Falcons here. I joke that I would never do that again. I don't understand either of these teams. All I know is the Saints showed up in a big spot last week. So that has to mean they're not going to show this week, right? Week to weekly.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, they played like crud. We know Dennis Allen is a terrible coach as a favorite. He's one of the worst favorite coaches in the league. We like to own our mistakes here. I was way wrong on Derrick Carr. I thought this was a great signing. So did I. So did I.
Starting point is 00:34:35 They're just not a good football team. So go Falcons, even though it sounds like it's maybe back to Desmond Ritter. You see Heineke's on the injury report? It's like, bro, just put Robinson back at quarterback and do the wildcat all game. I don't know. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today could be, it's supposed to be horrible weather. I was a stayaway guy here.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Patriots, Jeff. So we talk about narratives a lot. This is simply a fade the narratives. The headline will be a don't worry. Be zappy. Don't worry. Be zappy. I'm going with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:35:07 against my Jets. Part of it is I'm hoping the Jets lose so we help our draft pick. I would love to have a top five, six pick. It'd be great. I don't want the Jets to win this. I don't know what morons are betting the Jets here. Why is this line coming down? It's the narratives. Belichick's final game. Belichick's got a cold. He's sick. He's not doing the press conference.
Starting point is 00:35:24 The Belichick's going to be out on Monday. I'm just punting on all these narratives and remembering. It's Trevor Frickinian. Okay. Trevor Simeon, Colin. He is a bad quote. We watched him against the Browns, remember? And it's all checkdown stuff. He's like afraid to look deep. Well, especially if it's 18 mile an hour noreastern.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And the offensive line is garbage for the jets. Listen, it's been a long season. It's been tough since Rogers went down, you know, 17 weeks ago. Go Patriots. I'm sorry. It's a Boston show today, right? Tatum, Patriots now. My Tatum take is so hot.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And I love it so much. A little too hot for my best take. Tomorrow's headlines today. Packers returning home. One back-to-back roadies, Bears. This is probably my favorite game of the weekend because I don't know about Buffalo. Low-key, fascinating. This is just awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I'm probably going against the grain here. The headline, will be Winnie the Pooh. Fields looking sweet as honey. Listen, if you want storylines next week, Justin Fields winning this game column? Oh, Monday show is great. And they're 8 and 9 and made the case. I've got to be the guy. Now, we agree he can't really throw down the field.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But the Packers' defense stinks. Oh, it's bad. Maybe this is a game. Well, I mean, their defense and fitness. really right now. I just can't. I can't. It's hard. So I think Fields could get the job done. And we know DJ, him and DJ Moore have been clicking.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I like the Bears here. Outright win. They've lost nine straight to the Packers. I would love a win here for the Bears. Tomorrow's headlines today. Bill's in Miami. I love Buffalo. Well, we wrap up the season with a phenomenal game Sunday night. I think it's going to be phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Just don't look at the Dolphins injury report. The headline will be born to a B. Wow. Buffalo get wrangled by dolphins. Listen, man, nobody's taking the dolphins here. Everybody is on Buffalo, right? Everybody sees Buffalo's going to Miami. Did you see the stuff about the tickets, Colin?
Starting point is 00:37:16 No. All these ticket sites are saying that we're getting only purchases from Buffalo. Buffalo Bill fans leaving the pole going down to Miami and two was going to need a prayer here. I'm just, I don't, Buffalo was undervalued a month ago, and now it feels like they're overvalued. Is that fair? Certainly, yeah. That's a good take. If you're taking them, if I was a Miami better, I would like three more than two and a half,
Starting point is 00:37:40 but I think your take is they're a bit overval. They've been a little wonky in the last couple weeks. So in a rare moment, they're asking me to do a sixth game just because I was so bad last week, Colin. The headline will be, oh wait, tomorrow's headlines today. Let's get that out of the way. So the headline, I'm trying to get it right here. The headline will be, have you heard? Colin takes another trip around the sun, and it's somebody's birthday.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And I do believe, you know, the staff wants to give you a happy birthday shout out. You know what was nice. Oh, wow. They got, oh, my God. Wow. What do we have here, a cake? Oh, my God. Oh, brother.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Look at that picture. That is not one of my better days. I was wearing a money suit. Do you still own that, by the way? I didn't know when I wore it. It was part of our, look at that. So the audience says, everybody's saying happy 50th. This is like a big, big landmark.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah, 50th. Yeah, happy 50th. Big landmark birthday for you, man. You know what? I went to my office in between. I talked, you know, get some water or whatever. And I got the nicest gift from management. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It was the nicest, most thoughtful gift. I was just like, wow, that's really nice. They do like you here, I think. Well, it depends on the day, but I think today they like me. You're like the Patrick Mahomes of FS1, basically. Having a down year, but still a nice guy. Oh, well said. No.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Well, you know what? It's birthdays. I'm older. They do birthdays here very well. The company is very thoughtful about that. And I feel very lucky. I should say this. You've joined the show here.
Starting point is 00:39:08 How long you've been here? Year and a half? Year and a half, I think. Ryan and our staff, there's a lot of people in this. I should have figured this out. There's 20 people in the studio. It's dark over there. I didn't really notice.
Starting point is 00:39:18 But I've been very lucky here. Yeah, they say you're kind of like Harbaugh. You run people out after a year, two, three, right? You just run hard, man. Run hard. Very intense shop. Very intense shop. So I will say this.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Monday, I can't wait. So Sunday, we got great games this weekend. We really do. Like Bears, Packers is low-key fascinating. Bill's Dolphins will be great. And then Monday we have Michigan, Washington. I think we both like Michigan. And I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I want Harbaugh to win because I think this cheating narrative is overstated. It's 1%. But, you know, Washington's with kids. That's where I grew up rooting for the Huskies. So whoever wins, I'm okay with it. But I do feel like Michigan, Harbaugh, It's just like the football gods are like win and go pro. It feels like it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So a week ago, they had to look ahead lines for this game, and it was Michigan minus seven. So now it's Michigan minus four. So the side is Michigan. I think so. Why would it adjust by a field goal just based on one week of data? That's an overreaction, clearly. I think the public saw Washington beat the Texas team as a dog. Michigan looked bad.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They were almost dead, and they need to win an overtime. So I think everybody's going to bet Washington and pull cash on Michigan. Yeah. I think it's 30-24-ish kind of thing-ish. I go 31-17. Oh, God, Washington's going to score in the 20s. Well, they'll need the ball for that. I see. You're looking at ball control.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't be crazy. They run the ball. Look at that. Brother. We'll see you Monday. It's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
Starting point is 00:41:05 help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:41:23 or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at a Podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam Jay And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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