The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - More on the Big Game

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. drama. You've seen that Lakerland drama? Can I read this? Are you doing this story? Are you doing this one? We are doing a little Lakers. Hold on.

I don't know if it's the one you're looking at, but... The LeBron Camp upset on? Oh, boy, we're not doing that, but that probably leads the show tomorrow. That's a big one. Go ahead. Fire away. Let's do it. No, I'll wait.

I'll wait. You sure? Power hour. Come on, buddy. It's just, there's always drama with LeBron and his camp. There's just so much ego. It's like, LeBron, come on, I want to put my arms around you. It says here, LeBron's camp took notice of how quickly the Lakers traded picks to appease Luca Dantzich.

Because he's going into his prime for the next 10 years. Take care of him. It's Hollywood. He's a rising star. LeBron came to L.A. was an older player. It wasn't the same, and he's been great. But you have 10 more prime years, arguably, of Luca. You had seen LeBron's prime by the time he came.

to LA. It's a different environment. It says what is clear is that Donthage will have a say, and it wasn't lost on James Camp. Rob Polenka prioritized Lucas' involvement and immediately engaged in the Mark Williams'

trade. Can you just be happy that Lucas showed up? Can we just be happy? Is that you got young and dynamic? So... I mean, pass the baton. It's Lucas franchise. Pass the a baton. So I do play

a lot of hoops and a lot of these guys in pickup. I'm talking to them and they are like, Jay Mack, you know where LeBron's going next year, right? He's not going to be happy with his Lucas stuff. He's going to go to Dallas and play with Kyrie and AD. You watch LeBron will leave. And I was like, I don't think he's going to leave, but then

you see stuff like this. And this is this reek of Aaron Rogers complaining. Nobody drafts a receiver for me. Remember in Green Bay? It's like LeBron. The league is catered to your every whim. They drafted your who is a 6-2 non-point guard, not every turn the league has to pamper you. And I want to support LeBron,

because I think he's been good for the league, but it's like you're at the end of your career. They drafted Brony. Yeah, they're going to give Luke a huge say. By the way, not only are they giving Luke a huge say. They need a big. They're a terrible rebounding team. I mean, right now, the Lakers are 26 in rebounding.

Like, they needed a big. They had to get things going. Oh, it's just this tedium, this need to constantly be pandered to. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my level.

Notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel.

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We got to continue to hit the Eagles every hour because they are Super Bowl champs. own the Chiefs. However, however, there is a question about if Kellyn Moore is going to return as OC next year or take the Saints head coaching job. Amid all the celebration last night, Nick Siriani made a public pitch to his OC to return for another season. Vick's been a great coordinator in this league for decades, and he was awesome today. Kellan, you know, let's run this. Let's run this back, Kelly. Let's run this back. My guess is he doesn't return. right? Well, Kellyn's taking the Saints show. I think everybody thinks that.

Didn't the Rams hire like Wade Phillips, is their defensive coordinator way back? Old defensive coordinator sticks around, not looking for another job. I think that's the new model defensively. I don't know what you do with these offensive guys because the second they have success, Shane Stuyken, gone, Kellyn Moore, gone. Well, I mean, I think it's some you date, some you marry. I mean, if you get two great years, I have a coordinator and it helps your team, hopefully you can take some of his brilliance when he leaves.

Ben Johnson and Detroit? Yeah, Ben Johnson leaves. If I'm the new coordinator, I take Ben's playbook. I'm like, I mean, although proximity to greatness doesn't equal greatness, if you get somebody like Nick Saban is a young coach on the Cleveland Brown staff, take the gift, be a sponge, be willing to take everything you can out of a great young coach like Ben Johnson, take a lot of his playbook. Nothing wrong with that.

I mean, you're not going to keep talented people in any industry unless, you know, if you're paying them a ton and they're number one, but a lot of people, not all people, by the way, but there's just a lot of people, a lot of receivers want to be ones and paid like ones, even though they may be twos, so you just have to, but I think I'm not going to not hire a guy and go, listen, I love him, but he may leave me. Well, that's what I want. I've lost a lot of producers in my day. Well, they were good.

I'd rather have a good producer that leaves than a mediocre producer. I think I know how you feel. All right, let's go to the next story. Tyreek Hill, Colin, you remember at the end of the season? He's like, get me out of here, I'm done, peace. Well, he has now apologized. Quietly on Friday, Tyree made it clear he wants to stick around in Miami. Oh.

Toie, he's another competitor. He's a hell of a competitor. A lot of people don't know that. He's a winner. He's consistent. So I'm looking forward to, you know, just us continuing to build our relationship and even more. I love it. This is my public apology.

Is that what that is? Please. This is my public apology to you, Tua. I love you, bro. There you go. I like that. Steps up and says, hey, I was a little hard. My bad.

I'm okay with that. You know what I do if I'm Tua? What? I go right to Mike McDaniel. Hey, can we trade him now? Can we ship him out of town? Well, I'd trade him for a left tackle. In a heartbeat.

I mean, Tua obviously needs a guy like Tyree Kill, but I don't know. He's getting up close up there in age and he's always something with this guy. Left tackle is not. not a bad idea. Defensive end? Pass rusher. It gets something. But Tyreek Hill, you can win with Waddle, right?

I mean, they didn't win with Tyreek last year. I don't know. I would move on, but I'm in the minority on that one. Final story, Colin, is to the NBA. And the Lakers, they play tonight, and they will not have rim-running center, Mark Williams, who they thought they had at the trade deadline. Look at these Mark Williams highlights, just drop-step and hammering on people. First, it was the Lakers had the Christmas.

Paul deal done and the NBA said no and now they had this done and the doctors said no. Yeah. This is a tough loss for the... Now, in fairness, Lakers are 9 and 1 in their last 10 without him and Mark Williams misses a lot of games. He does.

I saw Polinka say he's never had a surgery, but he's always banged up in some way. He's missed. Mark Williams has missed 44 more games in his career that he's played. That's Embedish. But, yeah, but I will say this He was exactly what they needed in terms of stylistically, long, dynamic. They just, they will not defend the rim.

They're a bad rebounding team, and Luca doesn't play defense. They're going to be a bad, now they did get Dalton Connect back. Yeah, that's a big win. I know we love Connect 4 here. But last year with lively and Gafford in Dallas, catching lobs from Luca and then protecting the rim, you need one. Now they're going to look at the buyout market. I don't know. There is a world where the Lakers kind of got off good here, not making the trade. Because Mark Williams is often injured, and they keep the draft pick, which I know LeBron doesn't care about.

But here's my thing. I would agree with you if the trade deadline was a week away. But now this is what they are now. Well, there's the buyout market. And, you know, somebody could say, hey, I'm not plenty. You guys aren't contending. Can I just like Nick Claxton with Brooklyn? Okay. Right. So what's he doing on Brooklyn? Like, the Lakers could use it. Now, I don't know if that can happen. I guess the other big story.

I don't know much about the buyout market. Yeah, you know, we need one of these capologists to chime in and say, you know, I guess some of these stars can, well, not stars, but Ben Simmons is going to the Nets and being like, hey, we're not going anywhere. Can I go play for a contender? I don't want Ben Simmons. Well, the Lakers. Is there any good players in the buyout market, like good players? Well, we'll see. We'll see who gets bought out.

But I don't know, Luca expected to make his debut tonight against the jazz. A buyout market sounds like a used car lot. That's what it sounds. Pretty much. Javelle McGee, you know, he's like 30. 48 or whatever. But they do have Austin Reeves still, and I do need to remind everyone he went there. 45, 7, and 7.

And you scoffed at me when I said he's better than Mark Price, the legendary Calf. No, he's not. He's way better than Mark. It's not even close. Austin Reeves, 45, 7, and 7. Mark Price is maybe the most underrated player in league history. Significantly underrated, very good, but I'm just telling you, Austin Reeves, I love this guy. And now you keep Dalton Connect.

The Lakers have three white guys who are like, could be pivotal. Luca, Reeves, and Connect. All I know is Dalton Connect, Reeves, Luca LeBron. They'll be a very good offensive team. Oh, the other thing, do you watch the Celtics beat the Knicks? I watched every second of that thing. Oh, wow.

Boston ain't messing around. Well, when they need to turn it up, they can. Boston, they're kind of going, like the Chiefs this year. I know they were 15 and 2, but they went through the motions. Remember, they weren't killing a lot of people? I watched them play the Knicks twice, and they have hammered the Knicks twice. Also true. Nicks need to avoid them in the play.

I'd rather face Cleveland than Boston early on. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lie News. By the way, Mark Cuban had a funny exchange with Bill Gates over the weekend on the Luca trade. If after you left Microsoft,

you found out that Steve Ballmer traded Windows 11, like the new hot operating system, rating system for Windows 10, the Hall of Fame, but all the upgrade. I might have to hide from the press. Yeah, listen, it was, think about this, two weeks ago. Did you have this two-team parlay, Luca to the Lakers, Chiefs Trail 34-0? I mean, think, it is hard to wrap your brains around, Kansas City behind 34-0.

For years and years, the AFC's been better at the top than the NFC. You watch Philadelphia, you're like, maybe tied to turning. Jaden Daniels, Philadelphia, Detroit. I don't know. Just things to think about. Lakers play tonight, for the record.

They've won 9 of 10. LeBron's 12.5 point favorites tonight. You want that? LeBron's last 10 games, he's been great. I mean, Reeves, Connect, LeBron, Luca, they'll score. Rui, they'll score. Do you think they could go to the NBA final?

No, no. I think with Mark Williams healthy, they could have. Mark Williams, not that he has the same style, he reminds me, remember when the Celtics had Robert Williams? And when they were playing the Warriors, and Robert Williams, when healthy, was a huge problem for the Warriors. Like, they just couldn't score at the rim. And in that series, he got banged up.

I think he's in Portland now. You could never trade. Robert Williams, I think from Texas A&M, incredibly athletic rim protector, he just, he wasn't healthy very often. He could be a buyout candidate, because they got Aiton, they got the young kid from Gonzaga, Klingin, who's like 7-2, and then they got Robert Williams. Not a bad buyout market.

Look at you. You didn't know about the buyout market five minutes ago? I've heard of the buyout market, but I don't know who's on it. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rent a center. That's what they need rent a center. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Kavino. And I'm Rich Davis.

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We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers... This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I broke down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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UCLA takes on Omar Balo and Indiana in a primetime Big Ten battle. Bloomington's supposed to be a great college town. I took the points with UNC tonight against Clemson. Any interest? No. Okay. In watching it or betting it?

Well, Clemson just beat Duke. So obviously there'll be a pullback and I think UNC can cover or beat him straight back. I was thinking about this. You and I don't want to overreact. right like okay my holmes got blown out again in the super bowl but let's just say i was your top sales guy you run the company and i'm like i'm your top sales guy and you know there's this annual big meeting heads of state meeting and i've been in five of them and two of

them i've been atrocious three of them i've been pretty good not great but pretty good two i've been atrocious well that's who i am if jimmy garoppolo hits one pass in a Super Bowl against Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is two and three in Super Bowls. He has twice been overwhelmed. He was awful yesterday. He had no second pitch. He was absolutely awful. You can blame everybody you want in protection. He was bad. I'm trying to think of a quarterback I've ever seen it was that bad in the Super Bowl. I don't think I've ever seen. Now, Peyton Manning was bad against the Seahawks, but Peyton's not a guy that had a lot of mobility. I mean, Mahomes does have gears and

ability to run around. And if you go look at Tom Brady and Mahomes, they're Super Bowl performances. And, again, Tom played a team like the Eagles. It was called the Seahawks, and he beat them. Now, Malcolm Butler made the interception, but Tom trailed in that game and kept battling and battling and battling. Tom Brady is a little like Derek Jeter. He was always really, really, really, really good.

Even in the Super Bowls, he was really, really, really good. Mahomes has been a bad Super Bowl quarterback. 10 touchdown, 7 picks, 86 pass-er rating. that's with two weeks to prepare an Andy Reid. If you gave Brady Andy Reed and you gave Mahomes, Belichick and Josh McDaniels, what would Brady's numbers be? And I go back to those interviews we had with Tom Brady on Friday.

They were so good. And I know you say, hey, don't, you know, let's not make too much of the game. I got five Super Bowls now, and Mahomes has not been great in any of them. Now, he's made great plays in those Super Bowls. but he has not been well Colin what did he have to work with well what did brady have to work with in his first run and it didn't have much to work with that he won three super bowls it's something i mean it's

i mean shady mccoy came on earlier today on the gap between brady and mahomes before this game i was a big guy saying hey this gap is closer than which people think right and all the success that pat has been doing lately the team and i played with pat you know so i know him and Tom shared that same winning gene of, okay, I'm going to get it done. He's moving so much

and you throw him picks, sixes and et cetera, and throwing picks. So when I look at Tom Brady where, okay, things are not going my way. They're not blocking the same way. I got to do something. I can't just sit here and get blown out.

I'm the greatest. And Tom would never had a game like this because even the family's okay, we're going to dump to the running backs, right? We're going to make this game as boring as possible. Now we're going to get a whole bunch of seconds and five, right?

Second and six. And we're going to make this game manageable. Yeah. Tom was very good. good at winning a hand without great cards. That's what he was really good at. And remember, New England could not draft a wide receiver the entire time, Tom 20 years, was in New England.

Edelman was a college quarterback who developed into an excellent receiver. They couldn't draft a wide receiver to save their life. They had a defensive coach. They got some nice tight ends. Gronk was obviously amazing, the late Aaron Hernandez. but if you look at New England, they always had more great defensive players than offensive players, and Brady figured out a way

to make James White out of Wisconsin an incredible threat in a Super Bowl and incredible threat in playoff runs. Edelman was a college quarterback at Kent State. I mean, Wes Welker was known before he got, when he was in Miami, he's a really good punt returner. So, I mean, Brady took Dion Branch and Wes Welker and Edelman and a lot of huge parts.

and then when he did get Randy Moss, he broke every NFL record, right? Like, he was just explosive. So I don't think it's being too harsh on Mahomes to go, dude, I got five Super Bowls against a bunch of different coaches, and you haven't been great. You've had great moments. But it just bothered me the lack of kind of second pitch. Matt Hasselback earlier on Mahom's struggles last night.

Clearly, he did not have a great day, and that's sports, and that happens. But it is a team sport. And so, like, yes, the legacy and all that kind of thing. But there were moments when he was trying to put the team on his back. And again, I just think, like, pass protection is huge. The turnovers and then guys playing, like, really, like, we're just beating ourselves. We're laid off the ball. We're dropping passes.

We're having penalties where it just was just not their night. I don't know what all went into that. But that was an unrecognizable team to me. And, J. Mack, I wanted to throw this at you. So over the last, let's say, you know, Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar, Mahomes, we felt like the AFC was the conference of maybe better coaching, but absolutely better quarterbacks. That's why it's, I mean, I think this year I went four for foreign divisions. The AFCs become the easier conference to predict, whereas Jalen Hertz is the only quarterback in the NFC in the last 11 years to go to two Super Bowls.

like right like it's you every year you get a different quarterback in the Super Bowl from the NFC it's a harder uh division harder conference to predict aFC's pretty easy but you start looking at the NFC now jaden Daniels there's no mistaking he's going to be a playoff quarterback and jalen hurts now with this roster okay that's that's a playoff quarterback can Caleb Williams hit and i i wonder if we have a little bit of a pendulum swing is that whereas the AFC was the conference of quarterbacks. The NFC in the last seven, eight years. San Francisco, Philly, Detroit had the better rosters.

San Francisco had about a five-year stretch. That was the best roster. Philadelphia now, the last three years. That's the best roster. Detroit's probably second best the last several years. So it's been like the NFC, Niners, Eagles, Lions, those are the best rosters. Those are better than Kansas City's roster. Do you think a lot of that has to do with the AFC guys paying

their quarterbacks and having to pair back, scale back on the offensive line defense. I think it's AFC teams just hitting on them, and then some of it's luck. I mean, nobody thought Jaden Daniels would be this good. But hold on. Are you willing to put Jalen Hertz in that category with the Big Four, the Fantastic Four, whatever you want to call? No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

Again, you did this with Brock Purdy, contextualized Brock Purdy. When he had all these guys and Kyle Shanahan in their prime or closer to their prime, He looked great. If you put Jalen Hertz on Carolina with a terrible O line, does he look like this? No, he's not a great pocket. When you have four beats, 1001, 1002. My only problem with that, Colin, you could do that with every...

Joe Montana without Jerry Rice and John Taylor and Bill Walsh. Like, I don't want to do that. I need to ask you, based on what these guys have accomplished, I don't see why Hertz isn't in that category. If you don't want to put him top four, at least make him five. You don't want to talk about it. That is the only discussion as a GM. That is it. Jimmy Garapolo, let's re-sign him.

No, it's the players and the coach. Brock Purdy's $60 million. Outrageous. That's a little different discussion. Well, your job as a GM is to figure out what is fools gold or deceptive, Dak Prescott. The minute he loses top receivers, you're paying $60 million for a $38 million quarterback.

Fair enough. So then who do you have as the fifth best goal? We know who the top four are that's unequivoccur. I think there are four great quarterbacks in this league. Helms, Alan Lamar, Burrow. And then I think it's all situational five through ten. Jared Goff with protection is really good. Jalen Hertz with the greatest roster in 10 years is really good.

Jared Goff had protection against a bad Washington defense and did a horrible performance. Maybe he was concussed, who knows. But again, he's not number five. By number five. You need a number five. I need to hear it. I don't have one. You got three minutes.

I don't have one. Come on. Come on. Is it Trevor Lawrence? No, it's circumstantial. Is it C.J. Stroud? It's almost like this. If you said in the NBA, who is going to be the best player in the league next year?

And I'm going to go, Wembe. And then who's going to be the second best player? And I would probably say if he was in shape, Luca or Yonis. Yonich. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, Yokich. I'd say Wemby next year or Yokich. Yolkich, Wemby.

But by the time you get to four, I'm like, well, I like SGA, but what if he was on a team where he didn't get all those shots? There's a lot of, I mean, he's a good play. I'm not denying, I'm not denying Jalen Hertz deserves all the flowers. But we have, in my lifetime, we have never had five Hall of Fame quarterbacks

all in their prime. In my, I've been watching football since the 70s. You usually get two to three, like Brady, Manning, Big Ben, and there's a little drop-off. And my whole life, like, Marino, Elway, who, However, there's a little drop-off. You don't get five unbelievable.

I think we have four all-timers. Then it is circumstantial. Really talented guys. Herbert, Hertz. Right? Herbert, sure. Jordan Love, I think, super talented. Hertz has now been dominant in two Super Bowls.

He outplayed Mahomes in both of them. You and I would agree. Mahomes, very good quarterback. Like you said, struggled in Super Bowls. The lights are bright. What does Jail and Hertz do? I mean, he's amazing. Two awesome.

And one more point. It's not like this is just two Super Bowls. He had a 13 game stretch of season where he had 33 touchdowns and one turnover. Let me ask you. Colin. It was contextually. How's he not five? I want you to think like a GM, not a fan.

Okay. Who's the best running back in the NFL? This season or? Yeah. Sequin Barkley this season. Oh, okay, okay. Jalen Hurts has him. Who has the best offensive line in football?

Your GM? I would say the Eagles are the best. Oh, Jaylon Hurts says that. Who has the best one, two, receiving ten? in the league. Excuse me, I couldn't hear you. I'm thinking. Oh, it looks like Philadelphia, but I'm not supposed to, oh, by the way, what team

who's the most under-rended tied-in in the league? But you still got to deliver. He still has to make the plays, not turn the football over. It's much easier to deliver when you have, like Brock Purdy three years ago, eight Hall of Famers around you. It's

much easier when I'm a point guard, when I pass to Luca and he hits a jumper, than when I'm passing to a G-leger. So, okay, so to back up, you have four guys who are a superstars. And after that, we just don't know. It changes every week. I think we have four unbelievable all-time talents. Then I think we have players, Justin Herbert without a great coach.

He's in that group. Justin Herbert with a great coach. He's not to say. So like Justin Herbert with the Eagles would win 17 Super Bowls. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I get that. So who is it? It's Herbert and Hertz.

And who else? I don't have it. Is Dak in that group? No. Okay. Thank you. Is Jared Goff in that hurt server? No, no.

You got to have. Is Jordan Love in there? Let me throw a name at you. And I don't think this is a reach. Jaden Daniel. Stop! 16 games, my guy. That's it.

Stop it. No. He can't be after one season. I did not need to watch a second show from David Copperfield to say that guy is a magician notable exception. Come on. One season. of Jaded?

Why don't? Oh, oh, oh. We saw one season of C.J. Stroud. Oh, my goodness. Top seven. What happened in year two? A little sophomore slump, as they like to say. Be nice if anybody stayed healthy on the team.

Now we're making excuses. And they're going to fire his garbage O.C. If you put C.J. Stroud with Dallas Goddard, A.J. Brown, DeVonte Smith, Sequin Barkley. You don't think he could get to a Super Bowl? So now we just plug any quarterback in and the Eagles will be winning. Oh, okay. That's what we're doing.

I didn't say. Bryce Young. Your guy, your new buddy. You got his number, right? You guys texting? A little bromance happening? Maybe. I may need to do Herdline News guy after this segment.

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