The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - NCAAFB with Joel Klatt

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

Joel Klatt stops by The Herd to talk about what's going on in the college football world, and to give a certain HC the respect he deserves    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:05 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. So, Joel Clatt, you know, former Colorado football stud, Colorado kid, we were both lamenting when Denver got eliminated by Minnesota, Boston sort of probably breathed the sigh of relief. Yeah, I mean, like Boston won the title
Starting point is 00:03:25 that night. Yeah, the matchups. Little did anyone know. Yeah, Dallas doesn't have enough defense because Lucas a liability and so is Kyrie and Minnesota didn't have the offense. That's right. So basically, Boston has benefited greatly from Denver getting knocked out and Denver's still the favorite for next year. But it is interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I watch this. It's a non-college football topic, but something you know a lot about because you know the industry. People, you know, because the NBA, every call is like pass interference. It's all subjective. It's all subjective. Everybody thinks the league is rigged. I can assure you, Boston got every late call last night. Which is exactly the opposite what the league or ESPN wanted.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It was their nightmare scenario. Every go-either-way call went to the team leading 2-0 in the series. Networks hemorrhage money on Sweet. That's right. They hemorrhage money. And the league, by the way, they want the games to go wrong. They want more discussion about their league. Of course.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Every single, like in baseball or the NFL, peek behind the curtain, the networks sell. as if the series is going to go six games. So any series that goes fewer than six games, the network loses money, and they have to do what's called a make-good on different programming, wherever it is, on all of those sales items. So every call that went Boston's way last night,
Starting point is 00:04:49 everyone in the league and at ESPN was like, no! When I worked at the other place, it was palpable detention if a series was going to be a sweep. You could sense it in the building. it was like not good. Boston is bad for business. I mean, listen. They're 15 and 2 in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'll say it. I sense it around here every fall during the World Series. That's all I'm rooting for. Everybody, by the way, I'm a baseball. I'm rooting for seven. Yeah, fans think you're rooting for a team. Foxy, SBN, NBC. Root for seven.
Starting point is 00:05:17 That's it. That's all we're rooting for. Everybody gets their bonus. That's right. When it gets to seven. So you recently interviewed Steve Sarkeesian. Let's play a moment of this interview as you've interviewed
Starting point is 00:05:26 done notable coaches around the league. of all the stuff that's happening, how good can our culture be in this building, right? Whether it's the players, whether it's the support staff, whether it's the coaching staff, whether it's the administration, is everybody on the same accord?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Is everybody talking the same language? Is everybody working together? Do we have a healthy environment that people want to come in here every day? Yeah. I have always thought this is the most appealing national program in the country.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Uniforms, city, gravitas. I think Texas football field gigantic. The problem is that everybody in Texas knows it's gigantic and it can be a little high maintenance behind the scenes. I think that that's absolutely fair. I think for the ever since Mac, Mac Brown started to, remember they went to the national championship game and lost with Cole McCoy getting injured in that game to Alabama. Nick Saban's first title at Alabama. From that point until last year, way too many cooks in the kitchen at Texas. Every booster wanted
Starting point is 00:06:27 their way. And they've got rich and they've got a lot of influential people. And I give the Texas administration a lot of credit. Chris Del Conti is their athletic director. They allowed Steve Sarkesian to come in and
Starting point is 00:06:43 build his program. And that hasn't really been the case over that last period of time, you know, 14, 15 years at Texas. And Steve's done a remarkable job. And I think what you heard in that answer is why they're starting to have success. And that's because they have an internal standard. And they,
Starting point is 00:07:01 they don't allow themselves to be defined by outside entities. And I think that that's, by the way, a real epidemic across our culture. I think that we, we as a culture or individuals or an organization can allow people to define us. And then we allow those expectations to be heaped onto our shoulders and we try to measure up to what others think we should be. And I think the most successful people, whether it's individuals or organizations in life, internally define what they are, who they are, and how they're going to have success. And that's what Texas feels like to me. When I go down there, like I did this offseason, covered them last year,
Starting point is 00:07:41 we'll cover them again week two as they travel to Michigan to face the defending national champions. When I'm around Steve Sarkesian, he's very comfortable in his own skin because he defines himself and sets his own standards for him as an individual and for their program. and I think that's what's so valuable about what he's doing right now. Now, a program that doesn't have that big feel, got a little into itself. Colorado and Dion got a little into themselves last year. Shadour and Dion.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Let me pose you a question. A lot of noise. Let me pose you a question about Colorado. Did Dion change at all from the day he was hired until today, or did the outside expectations change based on the way that the season started? So basically I'm saying, did you change or did Dion change? You telling me he got, all of a sudden, he got full of himself, really?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Was that the case? Or is what you expected of him and his program different based on the way that they started the season? Well, when you talk the game, I want to see you walk the game. And it felt like they were a little better at the PR than the football by the end the season. Okay, was a 400% increase in wins better? Well, they were a one-win team and totally irrelevant. And I think people forget about that. It's not like he took over some juggerna. But it is the NIL area. You should be able to improve pretty quickly. Yeah, and they did 400%. I don't know. Did you not hear what I just said? I wasn't good at math. 400%. You know,
Starting point is 00:09:14 a plus three in the win column, four wins from one. It was a success. Now, did they fall short of even their own expectations? Yes. And he would have said that. And I thought that they let some games go that they should have won. And Stanford being one of them and probably Oregon State being another. Now all of a sudden you're talking about a team that they feel like probably should have been a bowl team
Starting point is 00:09:36 and fell short of that. I would pose you this question. I have been accused of being a homer and an apologist for Colorado. Not just journalist. However, should or the quarterback, the unsung, was sacked over 50 times last year.
Starting point is 00:09:55 It was the clear weakness on a team that was very competitive if they protected the board. Yeah, they were bad up front. They have totally rebuilt their offensive line through the transfer portal, mainly, and getting Jordan Seton, the number one rated offensive tackle in the recruiting cycle last year. I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical. If they can now go from giving up over 50 sacks to giving up somewhere in the high 20s, which is still a lot. I'm not saying that they're the most dominant offensive line
Starting point is 00:10:24 in college football. I'm saying that they're middle of the pack, average, high 20s in terms of sacks. Tell me where their win total goes in a schedule that's going to be far more easy, I would argue, than it was a year ago. You see, this is why I say, yeah, there's a path to eight or nine wins.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And everyone's like, what are you talking about? Well, look at their schedule. Just look at it for a moment. And think to yourself with the growth of the offensive line, what they are if he is upright in the pocket with the skilled position players they have on the outside, and the schedule that they face. Far difficult, far more difficult early than it is throughout the entirety of the schedule. It is not impossible.
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Starting point is 00:16:00 Now, the previous 15 years, they got pushed around mostly by the SEC, but they're feeling themselves. And I ain't, but now Jim Harbaugh left and so did 20 players. And a lot of like senior leaders and old, I mean, at Michigan you're saying specifically. Yeah, I mean, they lost like, every, I mean, they lost. Everybody. I mean, these were red shirt, senior.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I mean, they were like. I shouldn't say everybody. They lost a lot of influential players. Here's where the Big Ten flyover country is going to have to listen to Uncle Colin, who grew up on the West Coast. Let's see. What do we got? Oregon's going to beat Ohio State and Eugene. Are they? It's going to be Ohio State's only loss on the year.
Starting point is 00:16:39 They're going to go on to win the national championship. So I'm calling it. But I think the Big Ten. These are big pronouncements in the summer. Yeah. A lot of these big 10 fans think, oh, they can't play this physical football. I would argue at least this year because of the Michigan regression, new staff, new players. Michigan's going to pull back.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That the best team will be Ohio State, though they'll lose at Oregon. And then the next two to three best teams will be from the West Coast. And it will be an invasion of aerial excellence. and they'll be a little on their heels. You're trying so hard to not say USC. Like, you're all in. You're all in on USC right now. I think Jedfish, very clever offensively.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I think Lincoln Riley, very clever. Washington lost more as far as impactful players than even Michigan. I'm just going to say, keep your eye on Oregon beating Ohio State. USC very clever. Now Lincoln gets his offense back a little bit. Let me pose this idea for you. and I think that everyone has to wrap their arms around this. In the new era that we'll be going into this year with the 12-team playoff,
Starting point is 00:17:53 these non-conference games are going to be massive, in particular against teams that you would suspect or expect to be in a similar position within their league in the SEC and the Big Ten. And that's what we have with LSU and USC. And they play each other. And so the winner of that game is going to feel like they have an opportunity to go and finish in third or second in their conference, because I don't think either of them will win their conference
Starting point is 00:18:19 with some of the strength that we have on the top end. But if USC wins that game against LSU, they've got to think to themselves, okay, we can go be a playoff team. USC got a total break. No Oregon, no Ohio State, Michigan and a total rebuild, and LSU, as bad defensively they've ever been,
Starting point is 00:18:38 losing Jaden Daniels. In Las Vegas, which got to feel like a good break. You cannot get a bigger break. then USC got in their first year schedule. Okay, so I'm with you, right? I'm going to win nine, ten games, clever, really good skill people. Everybody's talking about West Coast people can't handle a few snowflakes. I am saying Midwest people, welcome to the brain power and offensive symmetry of the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Well, I mean, we will see. And then to echo your point about Oregon, that is big, that, that roster is really good. Really good. Two good quarterbacks. They are really good. I think that there are four teams in the country that are clearly right now better than everybody else, at least now, sitting here in the summer in the, in the, Texas, Ohio State, Georgia. Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yep. The Oregon Ducks. Those four teams are going to be in the top four. By the way, I saw you were a little shy when I said Oregon's beating Ohio State. You're on that game. I'm not. Well, that's stupid. I believe that that is one of our network partners that have that game.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Well, we'll have to get rid of them. Let me tell you something. Oregon, I know Ohio State has a hard time believing this. Oregon's NIL, they buy five-star guys too. Well, of course. Of course they do. And I love Dan Laning and what he's built there. And I've said this publicly, and I've said it on our big new conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I went up to Eugene. Dan actually, you know, I was around the team for a couple of days, spoke with them. spoke to them and then interviewed Dan and I said it right to his face and he got sheepish and his face turned red but I was like listen if there is a young coach okay so remember this is only going to be his third year yeah as a head coach if there's a young coach in America that I could buy stock in it would be Dan Lanning yeah he's good surprised me I didn't think a Georgia kid I didn't think a southern kid would come up here and fit so seamlessly I didn't not only that but he really loves it you don't think he had an opportunity to at least peek at that
Starting point is 00:20:43 Alabama job? And he said, you know what? No, I'm good here. And he really loves Eugene. And more importantly, his family loves Eugene. And he's got young kids. And he said to himself, I'm good. And this is the most important part. We're actually sitting there playing golf together. And he says, and I know I can do it here. And I'm like, okay, there we go. So he's seen it. He was at Georgia and won a national championship as an assistant coach. He knows what it takes. He knows the players and what they should look like. He knows what the culture should look like. He understands the backing. That's exactly. right, he understands the financial backing that
Starting point is 00:21:14 it takes, and even he knows like, we can do it here. And this team is going to have a real chance. I think Oregon's going to have a real chance not only to win the Big Ten, but to compete for and potentially win the national championship. No, I'm excited for it. So you got Sark, Dion Sanders, Matt Rul, Ryan Day,
Starting point is 00:21:31 Kalen DeBore, James Franklin, Dan Lanning. I am usually a believer. Like when Howard Stern leaves FM radio, don't take the job. Take the job from the guy who that replaced. He replaced him. The Bama situation. Like when I retire, the poor schmuck that takes over for me is done.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Well, I've already worked it into my contract, and we're going to just go to the moon. No, I'm kidding. I've not worked anything like that. I think the person that replaces the legend's toast, I think Kaelin DeBore could be a little bumpy this year. I think he is in a short list of the best coach in the country. No, I agree. And, okay, so there is something to this idea. I keep thinking about, I was actually sitting up, you know, I'm a golf nut, right?
Starting point is 00:22:16 And so I'll watch, you know, things in particular, anything Tiger Woods that comes on the TV, I'm just in. It's Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Muhammad Ali, any of these guys, I'm like, yes, I want to watch documentary shows, whatever it is. And the show comes on about Tiger, and he was talking about, and his child sports psychologist was talking about the importance, not of his technical ability, ability as a, kid, but that he learned how to win. And he won everything as a kid and how that's what translated. And how you see a lot of these, in particular, Gulf phenoms as kids, well, the phenom aspect is their technical ability, but they don't know how to win. This is why Adam Scott or Michelle Wee are some of these people that were can't miss prospects, never actually materialized into what we wanted to see out of them because why, Colin, they didn't know exactly how to win.
Starting point is 00:23:11 to technically play the sport. And DeBoer wins everywhere. DeBoer has won everywhere. Brian Kelly at Notre Dame. It wins everywhere. And so I'm watching this documentary. That's all I can think about it. I was like, oh, this is Kailin DeBore.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He's 104 and 12 as a head coach going back to Sioux Falls and then Fresno State and now at Washington. And so, yes, if you're going to have a guy that takes over for arguably, and I would admit this, the absolute greatest college football coach of all time, who would you have do it? A guy that just wins. And so that's Kalyn DeBore. And I think that that mindset and that skill hopefully translates for him and for the Alabama faithful. I will say this, though, it's just so unique.
Starting point is 00:23:51 We don't see it. The last time that a coach left the program, whether it was to take another job or retire at the top, and then they hired someone from outside to take his spot, I'm going back in my mind. I'm like, it's got to be Dennis Erickson taking over for Jimmy Johnson at Miami. He won a title with Jimmy's guys. And he won a title with Jimmy's guys, which then, made me start to think more about, okay, can
Starting point is 00:24:12 Kaelin do that? Absolutely. What do you think he just did with Washington? The majority of those players, Roma Dunesay, they were Chris Peterson's players. Now, did he add to that with a guy he had coached when he was a coordinator at Indiana with Michael Pinnock's? Yes, and he will add, and he's doing that, recruiting
Starting point is 00:24:30 very well at Alabama, I'm starting to become bullish for Kailen DeBore in Alabama. The risk becomes, here's the risk, for a place that has been the alpha in the sport. They have been the standard. By the way, Kirby's smart.
Starting point is 00:24:47 He's like 50 and 4 in his last 54 games, 1 and 3 against Alabama. Three of the four losses have been Alabama. So as much as Georgia has run the sport and won two national championships, he never really solves Nick Sabin and Alabama. You could say that Alabama is still the standard. Well, they're the standard now. And in this transition, they will be at risk because two of the four best teams in the country are in their conference, Texas and Georgia.
Starting point is 00:25:12 They have the resources, they have the coaches, and they have the athletes to put aside Alabama. That's the challenge for Kalin DeVorez, to maintain his presence and more specifically the program's presence as the preeminent program, not only in the South, but in the country. All right. San Antonio Brahmins play in the Birmingham Stalions.
Starting point is 00:25:31 That's right. U.S. favorites. They're the dynasty. They've dominated. What do you think? So I'm headed to St. Louis. I'm headed to Tuscaloosa tonight. I'm going to sit down with Kalin tomorrow. Direct flight? Yes, yeah, I wish. Maybe on Air Colin, but no, not on...
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'm going to think about that as a business opportunity. Right? I think that would be really good. And then to St. Louis, UFL championship game on Fox on Sunday. Birmingham's going for their third straight championship. What's their secret sauce? If I'd never seen the U.F.L., why are they dominating the sport?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Skip Holtz has the most quarterback-friendly offense in the league, and he gets guys that have ability to then go out there and become stars. And Adrian Martinez has become that for Birmingham this year. He was the Nebraska kid. He was the Nebraska kid and he has developed greatly. Now, he struggled a little bit in the semi-final game, but he's the league MVP. Now it's back-to-back years in which the Birmingham quarterback is the league MVP.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Last year it was Alex Magoo, and Skip Holtz has done a masterful job. And if I were to boil down, what's the secret sauce for Skip Holtz as a coach? And every coach, by the way, Get your notepad out and write down what I'm about to say. Skip Holtz does what every great coach does, which is he coaches and communicates with information and not volume.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And that's the key. Every great coach. Coaches with information and details and not volume. Screaming, let's go and finish is not coaching. It's cheerleading. Coach with information and details and your players will respond. I'm old school. I like to bark at the staff. What do you do? What do you just?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Cafe Americano, Ryan. Now! Hockey scores. Hurry up. The meatloaf! I want it now! That's how it works here. All right, Chas. We go... We go old school here. It's good to see you, man.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's great to see you. I don't get to see you at this time of the year. I came up just for you. I know. It was very nice. And I wore a gray just because you were wearing gray. It's the only shirts I can wear now. Why? Because they all match my hair. Gray and light blue.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I told the staff, no lavender and greens. It's got to match this. You should have a segment called the Silver Fox where you just give your best ideas. Wisdom with Colin. That doesn't pass the smell test. I'll have to yell at some people after that segment. The cappuccino now! All right, we break.
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Starting point is 00:29:24 His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the play. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it. out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered dancing with the stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by, um, our severe lack of survivor knowledge.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion
Starting point is 00:30:54 at the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha, who. Ha ha, ha, who. Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune in a pod meets twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Podmeets Tworled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Now, everybody over here? Oh, it's one of my other favorite places. The Twilight Gazebo. Sunset Gardens. Twilight Gazebo. What's next? Dead Man's Grove? Mom, could you please try to be a little bit positive about this?
Starting point is 00:31:31 From Kenya Barris, the visionary creator of Blackish, comes Big Age, an audible original about finding your way in Life's Next Chapter. This audio comedy series follows a retired couple's reluctant relocation to Sunset Gardens, a Floridian senior community that is anything but relaxing. Starring Comedy Legends Jennifer Lewis, Cedric the Entertainer, and Nisi Nashvettes. Through its blend of outrageous comedy, key party anyone, and touching revelations, Big Age explores what it means to grow older without growing old at heart. Go to audible.com slash big age series to start listening today. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man.
Starting point is 00:32:20 They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise. the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game.
Starting point is 00:32:49 As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Kavanaugh. Castro 1021. And I'm Kunky, his best friend, and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.
Starting point is 00:33:22 We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. America's oldest ballpark is set to host a celebration, a century in the making, when the Giants take on the Cardinals in a special tribute to the Negro Leaks, live from the historic Rick Woodfield. Coverage begins next Thursday at 5.30 Eastern on Fox.
Starting point is 00:34:01 All right, let's not waste any time. Jordan with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, Anthony Richardson has only played in four games in his short NFL career after his rookie season was cut short due to injury. Despite the lack of experience so far, Richardson made an interesting comment on how tough it is to play in the
Starting point is 00:34:25 NFL. Playing in the NFL, I feel like it's easier than college. For real, for real, because like in college, you got like, you got players that's, like, they're good. They know they're good, but they're not as confident. You know what I'm saying? They got to rely on other players to do this for them to do that. But in the league, everybody trying to work and stay in the league. I'm trying to keep their job, everybody trying to ball out. For sure. So that just let me know, I ain't got to do too much.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I got to do my job. Hell yeah. And he's going to do his job. It's interesting because in college, you're playing with freshmen. These are like 18-year-olds. Anthony's the youngest player. So if you have confidence in yourself,
Starting point is 00:35:09 you're playing with grown men, and this is their job. I mean, even at Florida, which is a great football school, half those guys are not pros. Half those guys are freshmen, sophomores, they make mistakes. So what he's basically saying is, I know I'm good. I know everybody else here is excellent. I don't have to rely on anybody. Everybody's a pro does their job. It's an interesting way to look at it, but it tells you how much confidence he has,
Starting point is 00:35:34 and it tells you at Florida, you know, a lot of times you're trying to compensate for the play call and the teammate. in the NFL, it's like, you get cut? In college, you'd feel weird cutting a player, letting them go. You know, here it's just like, bye-bye. It's not too bad to have to rely on Shane Steichen, Colin, who had a lot of success in Philly as the OC with Jalen Hertz. Similar skills in terms of athleticism can move the pocket.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Richardson, huge arm, plus he's bulked up, 64, 255-pound Herculane S-type figure, and you think about the weaponry they have around him. They bring in A.D. Mitchell from Texas, super talented. They paid Michael Pittman Jr., Josh Down, second year out of Carolina, dominant running back in Jonathan Allen. I like Indianapolis a lot. And I think if you think about why he'll be successful,
Starting point is 00:36:22 he has so many different skills, but you can clearly tell there was a tremendous amount of confidence in Anthony Richardson, maybe even more so than he had in college. And that's a great thing if you're a cool fan. Yep. Romo Duze has high expectations after being selected, the ninth overall and paired with Caleb Williams. Now, O'Dunesay spoke to the media yesterday, made it clear he's coming for Pooka and the
Starting point is 00:36:45 rookie receiving record. I think that's important for, you know, every player to set those goals and strive for the highest at the high end. You know, it's unique in my situation because, yeah, I went to school with Pooca Nacua. So, you know, I was following him and got to see what he did. So absolutely, I'm chasing that. I think he's probably right around 15 and 1500 right for that rookie season record and absolutely chasing that.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I think Brandon Marshall has the same single season record. here, right? Of course, chasing those records, and I think that's important because, you know, I said this at Washington. I hopefully lead the Bears organization better than I found it. Yeah, I mean, it's really, it's encouraging if you're a Bears fan. Not only that you land Caleb Williams, but with your second pick, knowing you already have a good receiving court, they doubled down on offense. Historically, this team doesn't do that. They have to be talked into, drive. drafting offense and whiff on it a lot. So I think you're going to have
Starting point is 00:37:42 two A rookies and his maturity and Adunze, as one GM told me, is about as clean a player as you can get. Maturity, work ethic, injury history, productivity, whether or not he's a star or not, you know, I mean, DJ Moore's
Starting point is 00:37:58 the one, so how many looks do you get? But he said, you know, they call them Bijon Robinson when he went to Atlanta out of Texas. It's like, that's a clean player. Like injuries, he could block, he doesn't fumble he's a good teammate he works hard rome is a clean player yeah he may not be his neighbors may have more dynamic like jet fuel but there there's virtually no way he busts yeah well he he had this similar expectations coming out of bishop gorman in las vegas decorated
Starting point is 00:38:25 recruit goes to washington has his great career and i would argue that no quarterback coming out of college at least in recent memory has had a better opportunity to succeed than kaleb williams Talk about DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Colquemette. They tried to fortify their offensive line. And then I'll just give you a couple different people that I think can speak really well to Romo Dunezay. Kailinaboor has told me repeatedly, the guy has no weaknesses. Michael Pinnock Jr. has told me he's extremely precise. He's dominant.
Starting point is 00:38:53 He's a dog. You put all that together. You consider the fact that he has a really good offense around him. I'm 1500 yards calling. That feels like a lot. Pooka Nakua did that without really Cooper Cup. So, I mean, how many targets is Oduan's going to have to? He's probably going to have to get well over 125 targets to get that number.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah. But he could do it. Yeah, I think he's going to be a big hit. Yeah. We've talked about Aaron Rogers earlier, Colin, in the show, and his unexcused absence from minicamp. Well, with Rogers out of town, his longtime friend in OC, Nathaniel Hackett is reportedly not calling plays for the team's offense
Starting point is 00:39:28 during their two-minute drills. Quarterback coach and past game coordinator, Todd Downing was calling plays in his place. What do you make of this? It's not good. Strange. I mean, I don't even need to say anything. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Sorry, Jet fans. I know you think we're picking on you. Do you think that's good? Do you really literally want your coordinator? We don't trust him with two minutes left. I got to be honest. I was pretty high on Hackett going to Denver. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He was very well-liked in Green Bay. Clearly, he has a relationship with Aaron Rogers. but Todd Downing, I mean, I like the roster a lot, but the coaching staff, like Robert Solic, great coordinator, is he a great head coach. Hack it, you know, no more calling two minutes. This is not a good, this is only June, you're kind of having some issues, not a great thing.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Okay, finally calling the U.S. men's national team. Oh. Yeah, how about this call by Felicity? Whoop, a little Galazzo there. U.S. men's national team had a tough friendly against Brazil last night, coming off a brutal 5-1 performance, a loss against Colombia. The U.S. held strong in a 1-1 draw against Brazil. Ballistic scored from a direct free kick.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You see it here. Goalkeeper Matt Turner kept the Americans in it with 11 saves. By the way, the most since Tim Howard, when he had 14 in the 2014 World Cup, I believe, against Belgium. Oh, I thought we were going to fire Burrhalter. Well, it's like, what's the expectation in the Copa for you? Well, did you hear the Brazilian coach after? He said, I don't know what all the complaining is. He goes, I'm watching this American team.
Starting point is 00:41:00 All their best players are overseas playing for golf. great teams and doing well. He's like, I see a bunch of really good players. I'll say it again. Ball skills, best group of players we've ever had in the country. It's the best in terms of just the ability to score, to make plays. This is the best playmaking group we've ever had. I mean, shots on goal.
Starting point is 00:41:22 This is a legitimate team that could finish, could win three matches in the World Cup. I've never felt as we could. I usually feel the only way for the United States men's national team to flourish is superior goalie play, like superior. If we were good, not special, we could win three, four matches. I think quarterfinals were realistic. By the way, Colin, Copa America begins July 20th on Fox and FS1. You got the Euros.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You got a double-diff a little soccer. The world's game is coming to Fox. I mean, a week ago, every Ethan, Liam Holden and Beckett wanted to fire Burrhalter. This team stinks. They're going to flame that. And then they go toe to toe to with a world power and had an opportunity after intermission to win. Yeah. Fired up. Soccer fans in this country.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They're fickle. Fickle. Also, a little bit unrealistic. A little unrealistic. This isn't exactly a global power. We're trying to get there. We're trying to elevate. We're not there yet.
Starting point is 00:42:29 No, we're not. Jordan with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. I mean, a week ago, cats and dogs living together. Burrhalter, you've got to get him out of here. And then we go, toe to toe, foot to foot with Brazil, look excellent.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And I think these friendly matches, they don't mean anything. If you get down, things can unravel. You've got to be careful about big judging here. this is a really talented group. But American soccer fans, it's always the coach's fault. It's never a lack of striking ability. It's never a lack of depth. It's always the coach's fault.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It's like I'm exhausted by it. This isn't exactly a Bruce Arena situation. This team's going to succeed in the coppice. I think they will. I can't wait for it. All right, Jordan, great job today. I want to thank Joel Clat, Rachel Nichols. Dan Hurley for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Live in L.A., it's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guidance. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on to Ernie Stewart the chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Bowker. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines,
Starting point is 00:44:10 the biggest decisions, and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:44:25 Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Gianna Maria Riva on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood.
Starting point is 00:45:19 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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