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So what do you make?
So you just heard my takeaway on Steph Curry saying, yeah, I'm good here, LeBron.
I'm not throwing you a life preserver for your.
current state, which is like in flux with the Lakers.
What's your takeaway on Steph Curry saying, yeah, I'm good here, LeBron?
I thought, Colin, it was a lot like winning time, which I'm enjoying to the maximum, but
kind of based on true events, but a lot of drama, a lot of fiction to make it more
dramatic and interesting.
That's what I thought of it.
But here's how I look at it, Colin.
I think LeBron was just answered a question, a hypothetical question,
and saying, you know, he'd love to play with Steph.
Because they would, I mean, with his passing ability, his court vision,
and Steph's shooting ability, obviously it'd be crazy.
I don't think Steph was disrespecting LeBron.
And here's why.
Because we know that Steph doesn't mind playing with other superstars,
even ones who were bigger than him.
All right, he welcomed Kevin Durant to his,
own team and he flew to New York to try to convince Durant to stay and go and stay and not go to
Brooklyn. Obviously it didn't work. I think Steph looked at it like this, Colin. I'm about to,
I'm in a great situation. You mentioned all the teammates he has. And I'm about to start a
playoff run that we think if we're healthy, we can go all the way. So why in the world, the last
thing I need is a storyline of LeBron and Steph looking to link up because it doesn't look
good to the Warriors organization if they're thinking, is Steph kind of looking like he might
want to move somewhere else? Or your teammates in the locker room are thinking if he's really
trying to play with LeBron, that means some of us have to go. So I just think Steph is being smart
saying, I don't need that type of drama. I don't need that type of storyline. We got something
good going here. So he answered the way he did. That's all I think there is to it.
Call me naive if you like, Colin, but that's how I see it. I will say this. Magic Johnson came
down and kind of publicly hammered LeBron. They don't make the playoffs. It's starting to feel
a little like Michael Jordan into his career, scoring a lot of points in meaningless games.
I don't see a way out for LeBron. I think the hardware and the titles are done. You tell me,
what can they do? How do they get this mess turned around?
Yeah, I don't think LeBron will win any more championships.
But I see a path where the Lakers could be a contender.
And then once you're a contender, who knows, you see what can happen.
I don't trade Anthony Davis.
All right.
I saw your clip with Rick Buechre and obviously people have heard that.
AD doesn't work hard.
You don't even have to hear it.
You can just look at the results, right?
He's always injured.
They've got to somehow get through to him that you need to work hard.
You need to change some things so you can stay healthy.
You're up here at the end of the season talking about we can't be healthy and you're the
biggest factor.
All right, you got a 37-year-old LeBron James with all that mileage on his body more durable
than you.
It's embarrassing for AD.
Get through to him somehow and then you've got him and LeBron to build around.
Trade Westbrook, Colin.
I don't care if it's for pennies on the dollar.
You can move him.
There are teams that are bad that will trade.
for that contract.
They might want one of your first round
draft picks to get it.
You might have to, you know,
take back some, you know,
players that aren't that great
to get rid of Westbrook.
But if it's pennies on the dollar,
so be it.
You get A.D. and LeBron
and you try to put athletic shooters
around them if you can.
And then you go from there.
That's what I think the Lakers need to do.
I think Magic, Colin.
and he obviously, you know,
DeRos, and we all see now what he did in Chicago
and say, wow, that would have been great.
And yeah, it would have been better than Westbrook.
But DeMard, most people didn't think that was a great fit either.
He's not a three-point shooter.
He doesn't spread the floor.
He's a mid-range guy.
So it would have worked better than this,
but I don't know how great that would have been.
And I think LeBron said, okay, neither one of them spreads the floor,
neither one of them is a shooter.
but at least if I'm out, Westbrook is somewhat of a playmaker,
and he can create for other people and they can still win games without me.
He was wrong, but I think that was LeBron's thinking.
You know, it is interesting.
We were talking about this as a staff this morning.
You know, LeBron loves Curry, but Curry now breaks down.
LeBron wanted A.D., but he had a history of breaking down.
LeBron liked the old D. Wade.
He was breaking down.
LeBron likes old players.
Kire, by the way, is history.
injuries. The truth is LeBron, because he misses 20 games a year, now has to start embracing
and pivoting to playing with younger guys who don't get hurt as much. And I'm not sure LeBron
that's in his DNA. I mean, you can see he loves the old NBA. He's got great, he romanticizes
a lot of older NBA. He don't want anything to do with young guys, and I think he has to change.
You know, I do you think you could go to LeBron if you were... That's a great point.
Yeah. I mean, would you, would you, do you think you can go to LeBron and say LeBron?
we're going to make a young you a D and a bunch of kids how do you think he'd take that well first of all
the reason he likes playing with veterans Colin is because they're smarter you know generally as far as
basketball IQ experience and he doesn't he wants guys that know how to play all right so but to
answer your question as long as AD is there and a couple more veterans a couple more I think he'd be
fine with it because LeBron knows
whether he'll admit it or not, they couldn't guard anyone because they were too old.
Yep.
And age is even more negative today than it used to be because the floor is so spread out.
Yes.
And so you have a lot more area to guard, right?
So now when you're older, you can't move your feet like you used to, you can't stay in front of guys.
And that's a big problem for the Lakers.
So if you have young guys, he liked Caruso, he likes Austin Reeves, he likes Malik Monk,
Young guys that are athletic enough to stay in front of their defenders and shoot,
I think LeBron would be fine with that.
Again, I don't think they're winning another championship.
I think LeBron will be at four titles for his career.
But these are the best ways for them to build a team that in theory can at least compete for a title.
You know, it's funny, KD took a bullet the other day.
He said, you know, my injury derailed us.
And I thought, James Harden quit on you.
Ben Simmons isn't available.
Kyrie didn't get vaxed, and yet KD took the bullet for the team publicly on me.
I don't think it's on everybody except KD in my opinion.
Do you think privately KD is a little frustrated?
Because now it looks like, dude, if you had a state at Golden State on that roster right now,
you could win a championship.
Do you think he ever has a moment where he regrets going to Brooklyn?
He should.
I don't know if he does.
because he obviously was ready to move on.
Look, he wanted to get that monkey off his back.
Get those rings.
Nobody can say anything about me anymore.
I've got two.
Now I can just go do what I want to do,
which is play ball with my buddies.
All right, Kyrie.
That's what he was thinking, I believe.
And so you're right.
He took the bullet because the bottom line is what derailed their season
was Kyrie Irving not getting vaccinated.
That's it.
There are other factors.
Yeah, Katie getting hurt doesn't help.
it was Kyrie not getting vaccinated because Colin, if he gets vaccinated,
James Hardin is likely still there.
And they've got the best big three in the league.
Hardin doesn't quit on them.
And they've got a legitimate chance to win the championship,
even with KD missing those 21 straight games or whatever it was.
But Kevin Durant made a huge mistake when he left Golden State.
He would probably have at least three rings right now, right?
I think they could have won it, you know, with him one of these years that he's been healthy.
And they'd have a chance to win this year.
They'd probably be the favorite.
So he really did make a major mistake by leaving Golden State.
He left rings on the table.
And look, I tell these guys, I say it about Kyrie, when you retire, you're young.
You can do all the other things you want to do outside of basketball.
You got the rest of your life.
You're like 38 years old when you retire, if that.
So when you're playing these 15 years that you have in your prime, make the most of it.
And Kevin Durant didn't by leaving Golden State.
And so we all want to see can he win a ring with his own team?
Can he lead his own team?
And so far, look, this is his third season in Brooklyn.
I know there have been injuries.
But he's going to be 34 at the start of next year.
And his 15th year, there's no, he doesn't have time to waste.
All right, tomorrow is getting shorter and shorter for him.
And so, yeah, I think he made a mistake whether he acknowledges it or understands it or not.
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He's crushing it.
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Good seeing you, bud.
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No.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
Well, the Miami Dolphins are once again, the center of the news cycle in the NFL with the Brian Flores lawsuits developing.
But Mike McDaniel is about to start his first season as the head coach in Miami,
and quarterback Xavier Howard says he loves what he is instilling.
When I got in the building today, I feel like everything's been different since I got here, you know, the energy, everybody happy.
I feel like a lot of things can be special here, you know, with Mike Madan, you know, he's bringing that energy.
Like I said, the energy was there, you know, I was excited to meet him.
He was excited to meet me.
And if everybody buy in, you know, we get the job done.
McDaniel did resign Howard as well as Emmanuel Agba, the defensive end.
And Agba said he was glad they took care of their own with that pair of deals.
They've also brought in Tyreek Hill.
They signed Tehran Armstead, Alec Ingold, Chase Edmonds, Rahim Mostert.
brought in Terry Bridgewater as a backup, Cedric Wilson Jr., Connor Williams on the offensive line.
So they have made a lot of aggressive moves on top of bringing in Mike McDaniel as a offensive coach.
They have some really good high-end players.
I mean, they got Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, Mike Gaseki, Zavian Howard.
They've got high-end talent.
The question will become, because they'll be better offensively,
because they're bringing the Niners offense and an offensive guy.
You know, the question's going to become for this team.
is Tua's going to be better.
Right.
I don't think there's any question this year, Miami will be more dynamic offensively.
The questions are going to become is that they think they solved a problem with Tyreek Hill.
They may have created a second one because now Tua's numbers are going to start looking much better
and you're going to be asking yourself at the end of the year, oh, we found our franchise guy,
and half the room is going to be like, yeah, and half the room is going to be like, nah.
Well, I think that depends on some other factors as well.
Tua being better than he was, how much better?
Is he going to look like a franchise quarterback?
Are we going to step back and be like, wow, all he really needed was an offensive line and a high-powered weapon and an offensive coach.
If it looks like that, great.
I love that.
That's what you wanted when you drafted Tua or where you drafted him.
But if there still remains a question, you have to.
you have to aggressively move on from Tua,
regardless of what, you know,
to a non or, you know,
to a hive or even people internally feel.
The Los Angeles Rams moved off
of a quarterback that took them to a Super Bowl.
He was the quarterback of the team in a Super Bowl
when they moved on from him.
So you can't just tell me just because somebody improves
that they're a franchise guy.
He better improve.
Look at all they brought in.
The excuses are off the table now.
Now, I don't think that the Dolphins have done to it
any favors whatsoever in his development.
And I don't think that they ever leaned into him being the franchise quarterback.
I think it's on them, mostly, where to it is in his development.
But the first pick in the draft is the late third round.
They have a fourth and two seventh round picks.
We'll see what they do through the season.
But I think the biggest thing in he has to overcome is the internal situation in Miami.
It's not as simple as I'm going in as a new coach.
There's a lot going on.
And that can be a story throughout the season,
in Miami it generally is.
So the Forbes list of the top 10 richest sports owners was released.
Interestingly enough, only one NFL owner made the list this year,
Panthers owner David Tepper.
Now, we know he is a big money guy and obviously a very aggressive owner.
He's worth $16.7 billion as the Panthers owner.
Isn't it insane how we used to talk about millions of dollars as if like that was?
Steve Ballmer's worth almost $100 billion.
Isn't that insane billion B?
Yeah, it is.
It is insane.
The amount of money that exists out there.
But I have no financial envy for individuals.
I think we should tax corporations more.
I don't think, I mean, I don't, doesn't bother me.
I mean, Dan Gilbert.
I just think it's staggering how quick,
how we've moved on from like hundreds of millions of dollars being a staggering amount of money to.
Oh, just a hundred billion dollars.
Listen, Larry Miller owned the Jazz, Marge shot on the Reds.
They were local car dealers.
The idea of a car dealer in Los Angeles saying, yeah, I'm going to buy the Rams.
Car dealers and not like Marge shot on the car dealerships in Cincinnati, Ohio.
That couldn't get you for an MLS team today.
Forget NFL.
Just the amount of money is just staggering to me how we talk about it.
$100 billion.
It's like a joke in Austin Powers, but that's really what people are.
worth now. So speaking of,
winning time, the HBO series is
about the Showtime Lakers,
who were not bought for billions of dollars.
And it's very entertaining. The show
is just
great. And
we've heard some
murmurs that the Lakers aren't particularly happy
with the show. And someone
who is not a big fan is Magic Johnson.
He recently spoke with variety
about how he doesn't like that
no one involved with the show
sought participation from him or his
former teammates. He said, first of all, you can't do a story about the Lakers without the Lakers,
the real Lakers. You've got to have the guys. There's no way to duplicate showtime. I don't care
who you get. We changed basketball, fast-breaking entertainment every time out.
Paula Abdul and the beautiful Laker girls came out on the floor, and they turned it out. You can't
duplicate that. Now, I'm a little confused as to what he means. Like, was he not consulted on the
show, or does he mean, like, actual Lakers need to be on the show? He can't possibly mean that.
Listen, the casting director deserves an A plus because...
I think it's excellent.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the acting is unbelievable.
The guy playing magic's fantastic.
Kareem.
Everybody nails it.
You know, Jerry West looked really bad in the first episode and a half,
but Kareem looked so prickly, that point forward.
Well, I think, look, maybe someone will do a show about me one day.
I doubt it, right?
But, like, you have flaws as humans.
You have ups and downs.
you have a complex existence.
So the show is not meant to show everything in a perfect light.
The show is meant to be compelling and tell a fictional version of what happens with the Showtime Lakers.
And it's entertaining because these are complex characters and people.
And we know Jerry West is cranky.
Maybe he wasn't that cranky.
But we know that that's like these are characteristics of these people.
Yeah, it was all based on a book by Jeff Perlman, which by the way, dogged reporters.
Right.
extensive research on this era.
Yeah.
I will tell you this, in terms of a sports series between the MJ documentary and this.
But this is not a documentary.
No, no.
And that's why I think the like Lakers and Magic might be a little irritated about it because, you know, people are dumb and they don't understand some of them that this is a fictional adaptation of what happened.
Like, this is not a documentary.
This is not exactly how it happened.
No, they exaggerations of these, these people and their existence.
Yeah, they amplify characters.
But I will say it shows the turmoil and conflict of building a dynasty.
And we saw from Michael Jordan that it does exist.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there are obviously true stories.
Yeah.
It's like we know most of these stories.
Jerry Buss was a maverick.
Like what happened with Tarkhanian.
Like all these things are true.
Not all of them, but like a lot of them.
our true stories with the exaggerated adaptation.
But I actually think it's a really good thing for the Lakers.
One, these type of series and these type of adaptations teach younger generations about the history
of the team, even if it's not an exact story.
Or all positive.
It's still interesting.
Michael Jordan's documentary made me love the NBA more, even though it was very critical
of a lot of people in the NBA.
Yeah, it's not all going to be positive.
None of us are perfect.
The minute that thing Sunday came out in HBO, I ran to the television.
It was fantastic.
It's great.
It really is.
It's fantastic.
Joy with the news.
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We, you know, it looks like, unless somebody drafts a quarterback in the top 10,
we kind of know who's going to be quarterbacking team.
Sam Darnold is going to be quarterbacking in Carolina, we imagine,
unless they go out and get a Malik Willis or a Kenny Pickett.
But by and large, quarterbacks and coaches, we know who they are.
And we thought this morning, who are the 10 best combos, right?
Now, we have a clear cultural change in the NFL that is indisputable.
If you take out the AFC East, which is all defensive coaches,
seven of the eight remaining conferences were won by offensive coaches.
And if Carson Wentz doesn't go down the toilet, it would have been eight of eight,
potentially with the Colts.
So let's look at the top 10 coaches and quarterbacks.
The suspension is a big question mark in Cleveland.
I'd put Deshawn Watson, Kevin Stefansky, 10.
but I don't know this year how much Deshawn Watson plays.
Stafansky with a broken down Baker-Mayfield is 19 and 14.
That's with bad ownership and a quarterback that was hurt.
Coach of the year two years ago,
Stafansky's on the right side of the ball.
They're 10.
I would do Derek Carr, Josh McDaniels, 9.
Now you're saying Josh McDaniels failed.
He's on the right side of the ball.
Okay?
I don't know how it'll be.
This is a loaded offense.
Quarterback, left tackle, running back, slot,
tied-in wide receiver.
I don't know how long he's going to last, but he's clever, he's learned, he's smart,
and his issue was he went all in on Tebow, which submarine his first shot.
I go Russell Wilson, Nathaniel Hackett.
I don't know if Nathaniel Hackett can coach, but he's on the right side of the ball,
like a Zach Taylor in Cincinnati.
If you're going to make a mistake, go with an offensive coach.
Russell's the only quarterback, four straight years, pass a rating over 100.
Number seven, Kyler Murray, Cliff Kingsbury.
Three straight years, more wins, and better stats.
So these guys have clearly come around.
Kingsbury just got an extension.
I imagine in the next year or less,
Kyler's going to get a new contract, but we can't deny this.
They've struggled after week seven, the last couple years, nine and 20.
But they got into the playoffs.
They got to be in our top 10.
Number six, Aaron Rogers, Matt Lafleur.
many will say this is low.
But is Matt Lafleur better than McCarthy, or is he just winning more against the lousy
NFC North?
He's not doing any better in the playoffs.
You can argue he's doing worse.
So they're good.
They're fine.
But I think this year, it's going to be a much tougher haul because they, at this
moment, don't have a number one or number two receiver.
I'd argue I'm not sure they have a number three.
Number five, Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor.
I like Burrow better than Aaron as a quarterback.
because I think he throws the ball down the field.
He's not paralyzed by interceptions.
I think he's much more likable.
I think he's a better leader.
And Zach Taylor, do we know that he's worse than Matt LaFleur?
I don't.
I don't think you get to the Super Bowl with that offensive line if you're not a really good coach.
Zach Taylor won playoff games on the road.
Matt LaFleur is struggling to win him with Aaron Rogers at home.
Number four, Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh.
Folks, they've won 75% of the games they've been together.
Fact.
They've won playoff games.
together. Fact. I know you got questions about Lamar. They fell apart last year.
You find me the coach since Lamar entered the league, second highest winning percentage
behind only Mahomes. They win a lot. They're both elite. I put them four. Three, Josh Allen,
Sean McDermott. I thought they were the best team in the league. Before he got there,
he got them to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. So Sean McDermott took over a mess in Buffalo,
four or five years in the playoffs. Josh Amher.
since he entered the league, 31 rushing touchdowns.
Nobody else is close.
Number two, McVeigh and Matt Stafford.
Stafford led the NFL in second half quarterback rating, fourth quarter quarterback
rating.
They have been an absolute home run.
Both great emotional intelligence.
Stafford's always had a world-class arm.
Nobody's ever disputed that.
Matt's always been best high school player in the country, best college quarterback coming
out, got to the playoffs in that mess in Detroit first four years. His issue was, culturally,
he couldn't save what was the Titanic in Detroit. These two together are magic.
And number one, Mahomes, Andy Reed. Listen, they're 20 and three against the AFC West since they
conjoined. And the Chiefs have the best record in the NFL in the Mahomes, Andy Reed era,
50 and 15. You can't deny it. He's had some.
mini slumps. He did last year, but as long as they're together, with a good GM to get him weapons,
they're number one. Now, I know what you're saying. Where's Brady and Todd Bulls? I think the
Buccaneers erred on the side of defense. I would have hired Byron Leftwich, not Todd Bowles.
I saw him the first time. It didn't work. Nice guy. Feels like more of a coordinator to me than
head coach. And I felt that years ago when it wasn't as offensively driven as a league. So, and
This is going to be, as Joy said earlier, this is Brady's last year.
He's still really good, but it's Brady's last year.
So, and I know you're saying Carr and McDaniels, folks, you've got to have an offensive coach.
Belichick now is struggling.
Pete Carroll's man overboard.
You've got to have offensive coaches.
Derek Carr saved the franchise.
Total turmoil with Gruden.
Mayock.
Henry Ruggs.
Carr got him into the playoffs in a division with Kansas City and really talented Los Angeles.
So Derek Carr has been, there's an argument.
I would make the argument Derek Carr is the most underrated quarterback in a decade in the league.
All the other ones, I mean, what Derek Carr did this past year in Las Vegas is insane.
They just moved to Vegas.
They have the poorest owner, the Ruggs nightmare, the Gruden mess, Mayotte got fired.
they've whiffed on a million draft picks.
He got him into the playoffs.
I don't know.
And not only got him to the playoffs,
he was beating both the Colts good team
and the Chargers good team late in games with big throws.
So that's why they make it.
All right, good stuff.
Good stuff.
Wife's out of town.
Go watch some golf.
How's Tiger doing?
Is he okay?
One under.
All right.
We're fine.
Going to get soupy this weekend, they say.
It's supposed to get really sloppy.
Oh, I thought you meant you.
No, no, no, no. Well, maybe.
Whatever's, you know, it's going to be a DoorDash weekend.
It's going to be a DoorDash weekend for Uncle Colin.
All right.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an
Acapella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple
podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with
the athletes for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
On the Look Back at it podcast.
From 1979, that was a big moment for me.
84's big to me.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
84 was a wild year.
It was a wild year.
I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
A win is a win.
A win. A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me.
Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast.
The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw,
unfiltered conversations
with athletes,
creators, and voices
that not only deserve
to be heard,
but celebrated.
So let's get to it.
Listen to the Clifford show
on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcast,
or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more behind the scenes,
follow at Clifford
and at TikTok podcast network
on TikTok.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
