The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - NFL Headlines

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

Colin talks to Julian Edelman about the Patriots playing in the Super Bowl and what really drove QB Tom Brady Tomorrow's Headlines Today with Jason McIntyreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day in the iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. And a three-time Super Bowl champ and a one-time MVP, Julian Edelman now joining us on the set, Fox NFL Sundays. I always think it's fascinating to talk to you in moments like this, because these games, I've had so many pros tell me,

there's regular season games, there's playoff games, and then this is the flashlight, flashball game, like, is different. Go to your first series of every Super Bowl, even for you. I mean, even in New England, practices were intense. Yeah. Is the first series different? Is there, I mean, Michael Irvin said, like, in warm-ups the first time, like, couldn't feel his legs. Is it different?

It is very different. The lights are brighter. And early in my career, they still had the flashes. So I used to play on kickoff team. And remember you see those epic shots of all the flashes from the first kick-up for the Super Bowl. And that first drive is one of those feel, like, we got to get, we can't dip our toe. we got to dive into the water type drives where anytime we had a force block i remember the first time going in and blocking cam chancler on like the first play i would always go in and try to light someone

up to clear the cobwebs everyone's a little nervous everyone's thinking about stuff it's the first play of the game i remember i went in and lit up tried to light up cam chancelor and he felt like a rooted tree and it was a big hit and it kind of stumbled me but like after that i was like all right My feet are wet. Yeah. I'm ready to go. And I do think for receivers getting the ball early, you know, after two-week prep, you know, it's a four-hour game. You've been through opening night.

You've been through media night. There's been so many logistics you've had to cover from taking care of your friends, your family, all the distractions. Getting something early is like, all right, we're involved. Now we can get going. So I agree. This game is different. everyone's a little bit healthier because of the extra week off. Everyone's a lot more prepared because you have two weeks to prep for guys.

And it's just a whole other speed. There's no saving the gas. Like you save the gas a little bit here and there in the regular season because it's a long season here. When you have professional athletes that are big, fast and strong playing relentless, it's a different game. I asked Michael this about Jimmy Johnson. I'll ask you the same question with Belichick. You've often told me that Bill was so good on Saturday nights. Tom said this, just buttoning stuff up.

What is the pregame speech for a Super Bowl? The pregame speech for the Super Bowl, it changed every year. But the one that sticks out was 14 when we went 10 years without winning a Super Bowl. It was kind of like our generation of Patriots first go at it. And he went on this big speech of everyone's here for a reason. The Rob Nikovic's that were long snappers, the Devin McCordy's that weren't first-round draft picks, me who was a quarterback, the Tom Brady who was getting old.

Everyone was kind of like a misfit or an outcast at that time. They couldn't get over the hump. And he just reminded us, like, we're all here for a reason, and let's make that reason for a win. So, you know, it was, it was nothing like, it wasn't like Al Pacino in any given Sunday. It was subtle. And he would show clips and highlights of guys in college and guys that, you know, pivotal pieces of the team, the James White's, the Shane Vereens, those guys, he would show everyone.

Like, this is our reason why we're here. Just to, you know, and it did get you fired up and you get all, get all fiery. And then you had to go to two-hour walk-through, but, you know, it was good. good. Strangely, despite all the components, you guys are a slow first quarter Super Bowl team. Were the plays scripted? And I always think Bill had such confidence in his culture and system that he wouldn't mind.

It's like All-E in his prime. I'm going to feel this puppy out. I'm not going to unload the exotics. Why did you guys start so slowly? I think it's a very hard game to get a rhythm in. There's longer commercials, there's more commercials, there's an anticipation by everyone because of the two weeks. I mean, and everything, how big they make this event.

Like you feel that in the first few drives. And then also, I think he would always say it's a, you got to wait for the game to declare. So, guys, there's going to be a point in either the first quarter, the second quarter, we're on our script and we're going to have to adjust to the adjustments, and the game is going to declare. I just remember him always saying that. And yeah, we go in with somewhat of a scripted, not a West Coast 25 play script,

but we'd have certain plays that we knew we wanted to run here and there. And it was always kind of like, all right, we'll see how they're playing this play because we have a counter to this play. Okay. Is the DN, is he slooping on this thing? Is he coming out? How's he playing? How's this off? How's this coverage going? So it's a lot of feeling each other out, seeing what the game playing, what they've been working on, any wrinkles. And it's just one of those things where we driving the ball a couple times. We threw, you know, we fumbled it or picked it. It just, once again, a lot of nerves going to that first drive, lack of rhythm because of all the lengthy timeouts and just guys just trying to feel what the game's going to be. You hear a lot the critics of Chief's fatigue. And I think the ultimate compliment, I remember this with the Jordan Rules and Shaq and Kobe and New England. It's like, I always thought Deflategate was a joke.

To me, it was just nonsense. When you hear Chief's fatigue and they're getting the calls, I do think that Buffalo game, I thought it was the first down, didn't get it. I mean, the tuck rule. It is what it is. There was 13 minutes left in that game with Buffalo. Make a play. But you've been in that world where you're kind of the villain.

Was it inspiring? Did you care? It was definitely inspiring. And if this is the worst thing they get is that the refs call for them, like we went through a couple gates, you know, like that, they'd get off easy if this is the length of how much people are getting on them. But I think it's one of those things where everyone says stuff about you. It kind of, it's the biggest compliment where everyone has,

has to come up with excuses instead of just beating you. So it's the ultimate compliment, I think. I do think there's a real connectivity between you and the Patriots, or you and the Chiefs. It's a star coach, star quarterback, often going into a Super Bowl where people think the Seahawks or the Eagles have better players or the Niners. But you're both, you and the Chiefs, are so great in the United States. situations. You're circumstantially, situationally so strong. You want a lot of close games. And that's why it's so ironic that you lost to the Giants twice in close games. Did you feel it was an advantage having those games with Baltimore and Peyton Manning in Pittsburgh?

Like, games that were in doubt with four minutes left, does that play a part in the Super Bowl? Like, I've kind of been here. It does play a part because it's a bit of experience. I remember when we were down, what, New Orleans, week four, two scores with a minute 30. We came back and won that game. Kembro Tompkins on the sideline with time ending. Like that was on week four, but that feeling that guys felt that you can come from behind when it's against all odds. That lasts the whole season. That's a bit of experience. So I do think that all these close games that the chiefs have played and that's just built to their their situational football like whenever the game was close we understood that our coach always talked about being a tough mentally tough physical team

that performs under pressure in situations consistently and that's what the chiefs have done if you look at a lot of their stats they're not explosive by any means but they're 10% higher than last year on third down they have like something 49 10 play plus drive And what's that? It's them evolving their team, knowing that they have a great defense and having these long drives and adjusting their team to winning the game. A lot of these teams, they get all infatuated with having the best running offense or the best passing offense or this, that. The chiefs just worry about getting one more point than the other team. That's where they're at in their career. You know, Mahomes and Kelsey, there's a lot of times that I just think they look at each other.

you clearly, especially by the time you're getting to Atlanta in that Super Bowl, were there times that you did go off script, where there was a Super Bowl moment where Tom looked at it, and it was one of those where maybe you tried it and it didn't work, and you kind of just felt like, does that happen in the game of this magnitude? It does happen. Super Bowl, 49, Seattle, it was a third down in that last drive before where we're going down to score.

After I took that big hit, it was the next drive. There was a Haas Z juke where I have a juke route in the middle of the route, and they dropped a P dropper, so there was eight guys in coverage, three rushing. And the guy dropped out, and I brought my depth deeper and went around them, and we ended up converting the third down. And me and Tom literally just talked about this play. Like, it wasn't on there, but because of the time on task that we had with each other and the trust that we had with each other.

He trusted my eyes in that situation, and I trusted his throw in that situation. I remember that play. You know what I mean? So a lot of that happens through the reps and the preparation that you've had for years with guys. I mean, Travis and Patrick can finish each other's sentences because they've seen the same looks.

Football, there's only six coverages, okay? Let's break it down. It's not rocket science. There's only so many things they can actually do, and they've seen everything multiple times. So when they see a messed up look with a look, they can determine without even talking, hey, we know what we're doing because Thursday practice,

we hit this, remember on the, and they don't even have to say anything, nonverbal comps. What do you do on Friday before the Super Bowl? What's that practice like? Friday's fast Friday. So it's a very mental fast practice, no balls on the ground, crossing the T's, dotting the eyes,

going over certain situations that may have gave you some trouble early that week in practice or the prior week of practice back at home. You go over all that, you tighten it up, you get a little lifting. It's very fast, it's very mental. And then like usually Friday night, this is like your last day to hang out and see your family. Then you're going zero dark 30 LeBron style after that. So you have your night where they're probably some like welcome the families to the Super Bowl thing. you say hi to your family, you have a dinner potentially,

and then after that, tomorrow you have your pitcher day, and it's a big mental day, walk-through day, you're kind of getting your treatment in, you're trying to calm the storm before, you know, it's real calm, and like today is like your last day. This is your last day physically to go out and rep something. Now you can have a thousand different, like in Seattle, when we felt like we needed more man coverage plays in the red area,

We had all the hay in the barn. That two weeks of practice, we put in like three or four plays in the red area Saturday night before the game, the X return where I scored, and then the Danny touchdown where he had, it was the four crossers in the red area. We knew we felt like we need, I don't know where we got it, but Josh and Tom, they said, we need some more. I remember Tom saying we need something else. I want to easier look.

I don't want to have to process here, here, here in the red area. So we put those two plays in, and we repped it at night before. So, like, there's a lot of the crossing the T's dot in the eyes, finishing the family right now today, Friday, Saturday, it's zero dark 30. Did Bill give you, I mean, you guys had some, some of you were young. You were young at one point. Did Bill give you a night on the town? Yeah, Tuesday.

So you can go out and do whatever. Monday, night off, Tuesday, or there was no, there's no curfew Monday, Tuesday. you had like a regular off day Tuesday where you're expected to kind of go in and get some treatment, watch some film, but it's not mandatory, but you're looked at differently if you don't do it. You know, so yeah, guys would go out on a Monday. I remember going my first Super Bowl before I was really playing that many times in Indy, hanging with cope and drinking a couple beers and just talking old war stories. That happened. We had that.

We had fun. I know everyone thinks we didn't have fun. You know, you know it's real fun. going to the damn parade the next day. That's fun. Yeah, the, you know, by the end with Tom, he was so iconic.

I mean, Tom was so big. I still, I was at the Atlanta Super Bowl. I don't know. To me, that is, I thought everything changed. I thought Tom, you know, there was all this ridiculous talk for years. Well, you know, the system. And then I thought after the Atlanta Super Bowl,

it's like, we just watched the best player that's ever played football play. You, of course, had the catch. I thought everything felt different. You guys were a dynasty. It felt like Tom sort of went into the galaxy of, oh, he's above Montana. He's above Elway. Take me beyond the catch and the catch.

What do you remember about at the end of the... Because I went back and looked at the highlights two nights ago. I mean, every play, Julian, in the last... Every play in the last half hour mattered. Yeah. Was that the most intense? environment ever. You know, I don't think so. It was intense, but it wasn't the most, because once again, like we were talking about earlier, we had that situation where we were down 10

points against Seattle in the fourth quarter before and had the biggest comeback from behind victory. Now, that experience helped us going forward to this one, but we did, I mean, you did feel that Tom hit a different stratosphere after we won that game because, you know, he overcame Bradshaw, Montana, got to five. But I always tell the story, like, before that year, we were training in L.A. And on the whiteboard, Tom had the address to the Super Bowl in Arizona, and I asked him, what's this? And he says, it's a Super Bowl.

And I was like, man, I can't wait to get you past Joe. I want to get you past Joe. We got to catch Joe because we were both San Francisco 49er fans. And he looked at me and didn't miss a beat. said, I'm going for Jordan. I'm not going for Joe. And then after that, when we won that game, I said, we're going for Jordan. It was fun. It was. He's got a podcast, games with names, Fox NFL kickoffs, Sundays in the Fall on Fox, three Super Bowls, one Super Bowl MVP, and it's great seeing you, man. You've always been so good for us. You guys are awesome. You guys,

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Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. Welcome back to New Orleans. You know, J. Mack and I went out for lunch yesterday. Both of us are flying tomorrow in the morning, very early. So I'm trying to, as his mentor, push him past his comfort zone tonight and maybe stay out. But, you know, in New Orleans, as we say, 11 p.m. turns to 3 a.m. Very quickly. It's the crawfish, the jumbalaya, you look up and it's like, where did the night become morning? With that, here's J. Mack with the news.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's start with Saquan Barkley. The superstar had an incredible first season in Philly. Fell just 101 yards short of Eric Dickerson's regular season rushing record. Despite not getting that, Sequin is only 30 yards shy. of breaking Terrell Davis. Remember that guy?

His single season record of 2476 rushing yards that happened in 1998. And the Hall of Famers spoke to the potential of the record-breaking moment. It's not about whether I want him to, but if somebody's going to break it, it couldn't happen to a better guy, man. A better athlete, better person,

excited for him, and his journey and where he was last year. Now, he gets a chance to be in the postseason. one game away from winning the Super Bowl, man. So he's going to break it, obviously. I mean, he's only 29 yards away from it, so he'll break it. But they'll put me second and third. That's still pretty cool.

I can look with that. Here's the thing. So at Penn State, he did not have good old lines and was amazing. With the Giants, he did not have good old lines and was really good. And you know who he reminds me of a little bit? I'll tell you, Joe Burrow. So Joe Burrow has been excellent in Cincinnati, with by and large,

bad old lines, cheap ownership, and roster's not as good as Pittsburgh since Baltimore and sometimes Cleveland. When I watch Sequin, I think, we know Sequin was great before Philly, but what if you put Joe Burrow behind Detroit's offensive line or Phillies? So I think what it proves is

if you're great at something and you work really, really hard, you may not get it your first three or four years out of college, or you may not get it your years out of high school but eventually great players Walter Payton eventually got a great Bears team eventually you know what I mean like eventually Christian McCaffrey

got his Kyle Shanahan in the Niners and I do think if you stay upright and healthy long enough the great players they'll find their way to the right organization he would have been cheated if we never saw him behind a great O line

because this, Walter Payton played behind some bad ones. But eventually he got a team that was worthy of Walter Payton. And I feel like the Eagles are worthy of an all-time player. Do you remember the narrative around John Elway before Terrell Davis showed up? It was he can't win the big game. That's right. And he was getting blasted in Super Bowls by like 30. And then Terrell Davis shows up and he finally got help.

I remember that last Super Bowl, Jalen Hertz, against the Chiefs. It felt like Jalen Hurts against the world, didn't it? He was passing. I think he had 70 rushing yards. He was heroic. Now he can lean on Sequin. It's another reason I like the Eagles in this game, Colin. Sequin Barclay, are you kidding me?

I can't wait till he breaks the record. Next story is, I'm going to have to start calling him your Patriots. Remember, they went 4 and 13, they dumped their coach, but they have Drake May. They added Mike Vrable, and get this, Ian Rappaport, NFL Network, talked about how May's reputation has continued to grow. Drake May in the NFL has a little bit of like a mythical

reputation. He was the guy everybody wanted in the draft. It was Caleb, Jayden Daniels, and everybody wanted Drake Man. Everyone tried to trade up for him. I think it was like, we're going to have to get our, like, socks knocked off to trade this guy. And then he went out and played with a not good team, without great talent, with an offensive line that should be talented and really look not very good. Receivers that were not very good, except for maybe a couple or one. And he looked good. Yeah, I think he's really good. For the record, who did I pick as the surprise team in the NFL next year? Yes, I know, I know.

Let me back up a little bit. So, you know, Caleb Williams statistically had a better year than May. But when you look at what Caleb had, Colin, talent-wise, and how he was afraid to make mistakes, but remember. Drake May had, I think, a better season. You could argue a better season as a rookie with working with less than Caleb Williams. Well, I mean, how about Jaden Daniels, who worked with outside of Terry McLaurin, maybe less than New England? Cliff Kingsbury. I'm genius.

I love Cliff Kingsbury. Listen, the great thing about that draft, Caleb can play, Jaden's a home run, Drake May looks like he could be, Michael Pennix, Bo Nix did a high level for a rookie. I think Pennix and J.J. McCarthy

are both franchise players. We could have a, what is it, a five for five? We had, now that, the Herbert Tua Hertz, Burrow class. Oh, yeah, that was loaded. But, I mean, this is the third quarterback class in about, I don't know if it's six year or seven years.

We may get like four starters, high-end starters. And J.J. McCarthy, obviously, we'll see with him. I think he's going to be the starter, right? Yes. Yeah. All right. Final story, Colin, is the Bengals. They have three core players looking to get paid this offseason.

Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, and T. Hedgson. Joe Burrow has not shied away from direct messaging to the Cincinnati front office about keeping their great players in town and he doubled down yesterday with the breakfast ball crew yeah i do i do you know we have the caps a ways to get it done right and i know you know i want to make it happen everybody involved tray t jimmar mike g we all want to stay together and so when you have guys that are motivated like that i think you know you can get those things so they said hey we need you to restructure it's something you'd consider not knowing what the numbers are you'd be long to these have that type of conversation to keep the core guys

together. Of course. You know, here's what's interesting. There is sort of a little bit of a pivot by the NFL, a lot of the top, and Kansas City believes this, the Rams believe this. Spend your money on offense, mostly outside of a great defensive lineman, Chris Jones, Max Crosby, draft your defense. Keep your defense young, fast, a little raw like Kansas City, but eventually move off defensive players to pay for the left tackle, the quarterback, the weapons. So if Cincinnati is going to make a choice on where to put the money, I am all four. It's very hard to carry an elite quarterback and two elite receivers, but I will say this. Most of the top front offices, like Philadelphia right now, they got two rookies, Jalen Carter, Noah Smith. They're spending

a lot of money on offense. They got some steals on defense. They got five guys playing on defense, they're not paying yet. I think that's the future of the league. Pay your stars, your left tackle, your weapons, draft defense, pay a Jalen Carter, Hendrickson and Cincinnati, Max Crosby, pay the tight, T.J. Watt. But you've got to hit those picks.

Well, no, but once you hit them, you pay one great front four, front five player. That's it. Otherwise, you just draft like crazy. So if you're T. Higgins, do you want to stay with Burrow, or do you want to just go to whoever's paying you the most? No. Burrow. What's wrong with Chase and some money?

How did Devante Adams do leaving Aaron and Greenback? He was enjoying money. He was rolling around in a bathtub full of money. He was enjoying it. The losing on. Probably not so much. He was rolling around in a bathtub of L's. Jay Max with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. It is always interesting to talk about that. Like, if you're a wide receiver, think how good Larry Fitzgerald was. But Larry Fitzgerald was better, the better quarterback he had. Right? A receiver is to some degree beholden to a left tackle and a quarterback and a coordinator.

And, I mean, listen, everybody wants to get paid. I've always said in my business, make sure the management's right. You don't want to be a really expensive chandelier in an empty mansion. Like, make sure it's right. T. Higgins, and I want to see him get paid, not only do I get Joe Burrow, not only do I get an offensive coach, but I get Jamar Chase. who's going to draw more double teams. So the reality, for G. Higgins, he made me a number two.

That is a perfect number two situation. Like Devante Smith. I got an offensive coach. I've got a running game in Saquan Barkley where the safeties can't cheat. I've got A.J. Brown on the other side. And I have an experienced quarterback in Jalen Hertz. Like you're Devante Smith eventually. I'm taking less money to stay in Philadelphia.

You can make all the money in the world and go play for the Saints. or play for the Panthers and get lost. Well, what if the Chargers call? Jim Harbaugh says, hey, that's different. Hey, we want you. We got Justin Herbert. It's a fair question. But I get Herbert and Harbaugh, two good tackles.

Ladd-McConkie, a very good number two? Yeah, so I think the Chargers are a place I would go to. I would leave Burrough, but I want at least Herbert. Yeah, you're not going to like a bottom-tier quarterback. Listen, running backs are somewhat dependent on an O line. Somewhat. I mean, Christian McCaffrey was great in Carolina, too. Receivers are very dependent on a quarterback in the left tackle.

Now, you were talking to a quarterback here earlier. I won't say the name if you want to mention, but he sure as heck could use T. Higgins where he's playing. I did talk to a quarterback this morning. I think T. Higgins is the best number two receiver in the league. Jordan Addison's really good. Yeah, he could still be a good number one. We don't know.

I mean, there's a chance he could still be a good number one. Big body receiver. Puka was a two that this year became a one, so he's no longer a two. Oh, all right. We're in the Crescent City in New Orleans. J. Mack had a hell of a year picking games. He doesn't agree with me much, and he certainly doesn't agree with me in this one. I think we'll all find out next.

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How long have we been doing this about... I think this is year seven, I think. Because you were doing this on the show before you were in the chair. Yeah. So you were doing this for several years. It was crushing. It was just such a powerful segment that you're like, we got to bring this on every week. Reshaping the industry, much like Mahomes has done to the NFL.

Oh, please. All right. tomorrow's headlines today. Super Bowl 59, what's going to be the headline? All right, let's get the pick out of the way early, Colin. You know, I've been on the Eagles all season. I've been, I'm a Chief's hater. The headline will be.

Tush, shush, be quiet about the Chief's three-peat. Colin, just like last year, when I picked the better team, I'm going with the better team again. Now, it didn't quite work out last year. Niners did lead 10-0 and then kind of collapsed a little bit, teams miss queue and they blow it in overtime. I don't see the Eagles doing that. And Colin, I have legit concerns about the Chief's offense having success against his Eagles defense. I know you don't. And you look at some of these numbers from Mitchell, the rookie cornerback.

I mean, hell Terry McClore and head-to-head one catch in the NFC championship game. Two games against Puka. Puka had two catches. He can't. Mitchell is a lockdown guy. I think Patrick Wilhelm is going to have to attack Darius Slay, who can make big plays. And I just, I don't see the Chief's offense having a ton of success. I love this Eagles defense. I'm going 31 to 19. I know it's a double-digit win. A little alt-spread action if you're into it.

I just think this is a really good Eagles team. I think the best offensive line in the league manhandles Chris Jones and company. And I see that look on your face. Eagles beat the Chiefs. No three-peak, Colin. Sounds like you're betting with your heart. Tomorrow's headlines today. Who's going to be the MVP of Super Bowl 59?

All right. You know I love to fade narratives. The media's all over a certain player. Well, he's not that good. He's not a top five guy. The headline for MVP. Will B. Squat goals.

Quarterback puts bros on his back. Give me Jalen Hertz is the MVP. Listen, Seekwan's going to have a good game. I did bet some Seekwan props. But I think Hertz is going to be the guy. And the narrative, Colin, around, Hurts is weird. He had one 300-yard game this season. Is he that good?

He had two games over 250 yards. That's it. How good is he? but he's playing to the team's strengths, but this is where things, I think, will change. Spagnolo, he's going to cook up something to slow, say, Juan Barclay. Nobody's been able to do that this season. He's having an unbelievable year.

I think Hertz can deliver, and I just look at that last Super Bowl against the Chiefs, Colin. He was unbelievable. You and I would agree. Best player on the field last Super Bowl was Jalen Hertz. He was very good. And I know he had the fumble, scoop, and score. But last 13 games that he started and finished, 33 touchdowns, one turnover for Jalen Hertz.

The guy is underrated, if that's. That's possible, and I think he captures the MVP. I think you can get him like plus 370 or something like that. All right. So if you think it's 3119, tomorrow's headline today, what in the world is the headline for the chiefs? Yeah. Listen, I know Kansas City Chiefs fans are all over the town. We see a lot of them in here in the background.

It's going to be a tough one. The headline will be acid reflux. Zebras leave chief's stomach churning. Listen, one of the big stories in the postseason has been the Kansas City Chiefs and the refs. Nobody likes that. We don't like talking about the refs. You hate it. I don't think the refs will be a huge story here.

And if you look at the last two Super Bowls, Colin, Kansas City's offensive line has not been called for one holding penalty. Not one. In the last two Super Bowls. But this is their weakest offensive line, I believe, since that Tampa Super Bowl. And the Eagles defensive line, I believe, has a big edge. I do think Tune is going to have to probably move around. I don't think you can keep him a left tackle, maybe kick him back inside to double Carter and Davis. I do think we're going to see some issues.

And maybe the Chiefs fans will be like, hey, we're the refs. I thought we had them in the back pocket. Obviously, we're having some fun here. Go Eagles. Okay. What will be the headline then for Andy Reed? Tomorrow's headlines today, if the Chiefs lose, what's going to be the headline for Andy Reed after the loss? You know, Reed has come out and said, I'm coming back no matter what.

You know, we kind of sort of believe him, right? Andy Reid, why would he lie to us? The headline for Andy Reid will be the Reed hot chili peppers. Andy keeps the band together. I don't think he's going anywhere. You and I agree. What is he?

66, turning 67 here in March. But he's youthful. He's a youthful 66, if that's such a thing. And you see Belichick's doing his new thing in college football. Now, I don't see Reed doing that. He's too good of a coach to just walk away. Too creative to just sit on a rocking chair. I mean, he's got Patrick Mahomes in his prime.

Now, you know, there's some other players that could be moving on, but I think Reed sticks around, and he's a great guy, great ambassador for the NFL, so Andy Reid will be sticking around. Yeah, there are dialing up X's and O's for Mahomes beats crossword puzzles. Come on, of course. If you're still having fun and being paid well, keep doing what you're doing. All right, for a coach that I don't get his methodology, but he wins. Tomorrow's headlines today, Nick Siriani, to be held back often from his own fans. What's the headline?

Listen, he had a much maligned year. I don't know if any show beat up Siriani the way we did. And he's had some missteps. However, the headline for Nick Siriani will be. Sorry, not Siriani. Nick makes no apologies. And I think with a Super Bowl win, Colin, we remember Andy Reid's amazing run in Philly? Andy Reid was known as a guy who could not win the big game. I looked this up. One in four in NFC championship games. Siriani's back. in the Super Bowl? Like, come on. Like, this guy's, maybe he's a good coach. His methodology doesn't line up with what we would do and operate. But Siriani wins this. And Colin, I, again, I go back to Andy Reid. Like, he had great players, Donovan McDab, could not win a Super Bowl. Siriani does it.

With Jalen Hurtz, who was a second round pick, I think we've got to start to give him his props and maybe back off the, is he going to get fired kind of deal? Yeah, I mean, it's, I've found through the years you can be kind of, um, Polarize it. You can be Bill Parcells, confrontational. You can be a little bit more chill. Tony Dungey. You can be an offensive coach, Andy Reid, Sean Payton. Chuck Knoll, Velichick defensive coaches.

I think one thing I've come to terms with through the years. I mean, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. So to Doug Peterson. There's a lot of different ways to win Super Bowls. Now, partly because of who he's dating. There's a lot of speculation around one Travis Kelsey. So our final one, tomorrow's headlines today. What is the headline for, in Super Bowl 59, for Travis Kelsey?

Yeah, like I said earlier, Kelsey coming off his worst playoff game, I think he had two catches. It wasn't a factor in the offense, and it didn't matter. They still took down the bills. The headline for Travis Kelsey will be, we are never, ever retiring, ever. Never. I don't see Travis Kelsey going anywhere. I mean, I think he leads the league in commercials or he's up there. He's just making money. He's dating Taylor Swift. He's got a great life. And I don't want to criticize his regular season, but he kind of slept walk through it. He was not amazing.

Well, they didn't even play well against Houston. He didn't. Well, he used to game he was good. He was good. He was not just amazing all season. But again, like, they're now playing for Super Bowls. You heard Edelman say, hey, man, I don't want to catch Montana. I want to catch Jordan. I think Travis Kelsey just thinks Super Bowls were going to the playoffs every year. Why would I retire? tire. And I just don't see it happening. You keep Reed, you keep Kelsey, you keep Mahomes, they got Chris Jones locked in, and then you just basically cycle through everyone else, right? You got the offensive line. The Chiefs, you know, I know some guys here at our network are very happy about it. Chiefs are built to not go anywhere for the next five years. I don't see it.

Well, you know, I do think, so I like Kansas City close high scoring. Michael Irvin said low scoring. You like Philadelphia in kind of a route. 12 a route? I mean, you could get a late touchdown to pull away and, boy, they get that late touchdown. What do we wear on the show? Eagles Green, huh? Yeah, I, I could, the only way I see

Kansas City getting handled is Philadelphia is not as effective coming from behind. Yeah. So I, and remember earlier this year when Philadelphia really struggled in the first quarter. Big time. It was bizarre. They couldn't score the first quarter.

They've gotten over that. They're able to find their rhythm more quickly. If Philadelphia scores first and makes a hold. And that's where I think you get into a situation where if I have the better roster and a lead, and I've kind of seized control of the tempo, I think Philadelphia, I wonder, like I will say, the one thing where I would worry if I'm Philadelphia, is Jalen Carter ready to go? He's been sick all week. He has.

And he's an absolute disruptor. If Jalen Carter's not ready to go, and the other thing that scares me about Philadelphia, really good rookie corners. Like this is a, I mean, you talk to veteran players who have been to Super Bowls, and they'll tell you it's different. Like there are, you get nervous and warm-ups.

My home's coming after them. You're talking about Mitchell played at Toledo. You guys will play at Toledo all of a sudden, yeah, it's the biggest game in America in the last 12 months. it is a big spot. Do you bite on a route? Are you trying to make a play? Are you apprehensive?

So I can see Andy Reid thinking, I got rookie corners. I'm going to make them think. I'm going to slow them down. And here's the thing with Andy, and I go back to this. Andy Reid, with extra time to prepare, is 33 and 7. I can't remember a loss. Not bad. That is a Nick Saban in his prime in the SEC number.

So let me go back to the last meeting they had in the Super Bowl. The Eagles were not this good of a team back then. I think we would agree. The Chiefs were better than they are now, right? They had Sneed. They weren't as good defensively. I mean, they had Sneed. But they were really young.

That defense, remember the audio clip that came out where you had Chiefs players saying, we won a Super Bowl, we didn't even know the scheme. I think this is a much more mature, sophisticated defensive roster that not only knows the scheme is arguably the best situational defense in the entire league. Been a great week in New Orleans, Super Bowl 59. Thanks so much. See you next week. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?

We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy,

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