The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - NFL news

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Special guests joining us here in the studio. David Hellman covers the NFL for Fox. Has a podcast as well. The NFL on Fox podcast. Also just got engaged and he's got a wedding coming up. Very exciting. Sorry to put you on blast there, man.

Big time. No, I appreciate it. As an old married guy, I get excited hearing these stories. We love the pub. Shout out, Carmen, my wonderful, Beyonce. Yeah, it's an exciting time. Happy to be here with y'all. What's going on? Yeah. What's going on? I don't know. Nothing in Cowboys World. Nothing ever going on. There's always something going on in Cowboys. We got a clip we want to play for you. Brian Schottenheimer.

I don't want to blast the guy, but he was with the Jets and he was terrible. He's your new head coach of the Cowboys. Here's what he had to say about Dak Prescott, his veteran quarterback. I think Dak is in the developmental phase. And that sounds crazy for guys played that much, but like there's things that we're tweaking with Dak. The bones of it is still very similar. You know, there's going to be changes. That's part of football. whether there's a coaching change or not. I think it's a little bit where if you have to have your system, then I think to me, just my opinion, not disagreeing with Zoom, to me your system should be flexible enough to where you adjust some things,

but you keep some things in place because it's our job as coaches to, we spend more time on it than the players do. Uh-huh. I'll let you take it away. Can I be honest? I don't see the story. Oh. I don't see the story here. This is very typical. It's late May, and we've got a long way to go to training camp, and I think that's what's happening here.

Because the full context of that quote is that Brian Schottenheimer was asked about their new backup, Joe Milton, big cannon-armed guy. He was with the Patriots, beat the bills at the end of last year. He was asked about him being a developmental quarterback, a guy who needs a lot of work. And Brian Schottenheimer was like, yeah, I mean, Dak is a developmental quarterback, too. All quarterbacks, all football players are supposed to be continually improving and development. Are they not? It's coach speak, and he happens to coach the Dallas Cowboys, and I think that's probably why we're talking about it.

I mean, the quote came out the same week that Pro Football Focus ranked Dak as the 17th best quarterback in the league. I mean, he had been fringe top 10 for a while. Yeah. He was an MVP candidate two years ago. And again, I know these rankings is what we do in the offseason. We rank every position. But 17 feels, I mean, he's below Jordan Love?

I don't know. I mean, C.J. Stroud? I saw Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, Kyler Murray. I mean, I try my best not to get angry about that stuff, because I do it too. I do it for Fox Sports. People get mad at me for my opinions about this stuff all the time. I'm not going to get mad and blast anybody, but you just said it, J. Mack. I mean, Dak was an MVP candidate two years ago.

He was an all pro, which the definition of all pro means you're one of the best two quarterbacks in the league. In 2023, he was one of the best handfifference. of quarterbacks playing the game. If you want to ding him because he got hurt, and I think it's fair to say he's got a history of getting hurt at this point. It's been three seasons now that he's had a significant injury that held him out for a substantial period of time.

If that bothers you and you want to drop him, totally fine with me. 17, pretty harsh. Yeah, like, if we're being honest, like, Gino Smith, okay, I'm sorry. There are at least, I would guess there are six quarterbacks on that list that haven't accomplished anywhere near as much as that press. Scottless. It's just, it is, but again, he is the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, and that goes with the dinner, as Jason Garrett used to say.

So let me ask, he's got C.D. Lamb and Pickens now. And we know Pickens had a bit of a checkered run in Pittsburgh, flashes of greatness, and then, you know, dogging it on some routes and blocking. But he is playing for a contract. I just wonder, schedule early is favorable. Is there a world where this Pickens things works opposite Lamb? Oh, I would be shocked if it doesn't work. I would be shocked if it doesn't work, and I'm not saying that the Cowboys are Super Bowl contenders or that any of that crazy stuff is going to happen.

That's not my point. It's going to work from a standpoint of this offense being fun and exciting, in my opinion. And that's what makes it worth it, in my opinion, is the Cowboys were boring last year, and their offense, even with C.D. Lamb, hasn't been as fun as you would expect for what they pay everybody. this has potential to work. George Pickens is a good player.

He's had thousand-yard seasons. He's had big moments without good quarterback play. Dak Prescott is easily, without even thinking about it, without hemming or hawing. He is the best quarterback George Pickens has ever played with. Jack Prescott has played beautiful football with CD. He's done it with Amari Cooper. He got Randall Cobb a crazy contract way back when. He got Randall Cobb a $20 million contract well into his career because he played so well with

the Cowboys in 2019. Dak can get the ball to his receivers. Pickens compliments CD really well as on top of that. He is an ex-receiver, an outside threat who can go down, get balls outside the numbers. That's not, not to say CD Lam can't do that, but that's not C.D.'s game. CD is a slot aficionado. They pair really well. They have a great quarterback.

The Cowboys' offensive line should be better this year. I don't know what the record is, but I think the Cowboys' offense is going to be fun because because of this trade. So it could. Let me push back. So I think Dax's going to see a lot of too high safety because this running game. So they move off Pollard. I get that. Then they move off Dowdell.

But this is their running back room. Giovante Williams, who I had in fantasy last year, he was a bust. I mean, that guys. And then Miles Sanders is the backup, Deuce Vaughn. Jaydon Blue out of Texas. Is he the Texas? Yeah, he's a burner. But that's not going to scare anybody.

The running back room gives me pause. and it's going to be interesting to see the Cowboys are making a bet. They drafted Tyler Booker. You came on the NFL on Fox podcast and talked about that with me. They drafted a guard. Their bet is that the offensive line can be good enough to mitigate that they're running back room is not that great.

I'm not trying to sell anybody on Miles Sanders, but he was an 1,100 yard back in Philly running behind the best offensive line at football. So if he's got guys up front, he can be a useful player. Between those three options, Sanders, Williams, and Jaden Blue, I think it can be fine. It's definitely not worth getting excited about, but I think it can be fine. I like that. It can be fine.

All right. Let's go to the division. I want you to rank the quarterbacks in the NFC least. I'm sorry, I'm going to have to call it that. And I'm setting this up for a next question. But go ahead. Let's hear it. You're setting me up to get clipped out on the Internet. No, I'm not. Not at all. Here, all right, here's, here's, okay, we'll put, we'll put, no, this is, this is brutal.

Just be honest, keep it real. I will, I will do Jalen Hertz the respect of ranking him number one after guiding a team to the Super Bowl championship, especially with Dak Prescott coming off another injury. I think Dak is, is a better, pure quarterback than Jalen Hertz, but I will give Jalen Hertz the respect of putting him on top of that right now. Then I go, Dak, and look, we all know. We all know, look, I went to LSU. We all know Jaden Daniels as a beast.

He was amazing last year. I would just like to point out, we were doing this same thing about C.J. Stroud last year. We were doing the same thing about C.J. It's not to say Jaden's not the man. I just, it's one year. You don't know how this stuff is going to age. We don't know, you know, linear progress does not always go in a straight line.

It's not to dog Jaden Daniels. I'd just like to see a little bit more. We've got a decade of results with Dak. we've got six years of results and a Super Bowl championship with Jalen so I just need to see a little bit more I'm not trying to talk down on my guy Jaden again I got an LSU tattoo

on my arm so stop but I just I'd like to see more and then and then whatever the Giants got going on so social team get on that clip uh make it you know Fox on Fox crime put the commander's fans in my mentions for the next week yeah I bring it up because

Jalen hurts you know I don't feel like he's getting a respect he deserted It feels like the guy just won the Super Bowl. He won the MVP. He was killing it from the pocket. He's got the most unstoppable play in the NFL right now. And he's still not getting respect.

I don't get it. Why is he not considered a top five quarterback? Let's talk about, okay, how is Jalen Hertz not getting respect? Because from where I'm looking at it, he was just named the MVP of the Super Bowl. He is a, I don't know his contract off the top of my head, but he is a well-paid quarterback. a $50 million plus quarterback. He got his extension. He won the Super Bowl.

He was named Super Bowl MVP. There are plenty of people that think he is a top five quarterback. And at the worst, most people rank him somewhere between like eight and ten. Is that not respect? Well, how good do you need to say Jalen Hertz is? Do I need to put him above like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson? Because I won't. I won't do that.

I think there needs to be some ball washing of a guy who was just amazing all season. And let me add. I would push back. Amazing all season is not true. You're not amazing all season if the fans are rioting after the way you play against Carolina and A.J. Brown is talking to the media about the passing game, struggling. He's a good player. He is a very good player.

Occasionally a great player. To say that he was amazing all season, I think we're rewriting history a little bit based on what happened in that Super Bowl. Okay. And there was, I believe, the Saints game early. He was turnover prone. I remember betting. The offense was a disaster through the, the first five weeks of the season. How much of that is? They have a different

offensive coordinator every year. Yeah, they have a different offensive coordinator. I think they had to pivot and really say, hey, let's get the ball to the best running back in the game right now. Let's rewire this thing and make sure Sequin Barclay is the engine that's driving this offense. And I swear, that's not to take credit away from Jalen Hertz. He's made plenty of amazing plays this season. But Seekwon Barclay was the engine of that car that carried them to the Super Bowl. Saquan was the difference maker for that offense. I think difference makers fine.

I think two years or three years ago when they got there, they didn't have Sequin Barclay. Hertz was amazing, right? It was phenomenal in that Super Bowl. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHard Radio app. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts That's interesting They still had a dynamite running game that year Like I said Miles Sanders was a 1,200-yard players Not say Juan Barclay He unlocked some new elements to the offense Because you had to bring a safety in the box

And that makes it tough How are you going to handle A.J. Brown deep and then Devanta Smith and you good tight end play and then Hurts scrambling. I think he had 14 touchdowns. You know what? I'm glad we're doing this because this is something that I think about a lie. Again, this is my job too. I think about this stuff

all the time. The whole point we do this, the whole point of the league is to win a Super Bowl. And we now know that we ask this about everybody. Can you win a Super Bowl with this guy? Can he get you over the hump in the playoffs? We know that the answer with

Jalen Hertz is yes. that's all that matters to me. And like I said, I will give him that respect. He is a quarterback that is good enough to win you a Super Bowl, and that's really all anybody should care about. I personally would not put him in my top five. I wouldn't. But I have him in the top ten.

He's somewhere in that range. He's a really good player. But I get kind of annoyed when we're talking about a Super Bowl MVP is being disrespected. A Super Bowl MVP on a major contract. that is going to be a starter in this league for a long time. I think Jalen Hertz is getting plenty of respect. So I guess the narrative on the internet is,

will they have a stacked roster similar to the Brock Purdy dislike? Well, he's got some McAfree and he's got this loaded team. And I think some of it has to do, Dave, with the fact that they weren't first round picks. Like Joe Burrow does not get dinged for having the best wide receiver duo in the league. Patrick Mahomes has an elite quarterback, sorry, elite coach, and a top five tight end all time. Right?

They don't get dinged for that. Lamar, Lamar gets Derek Henry. First round plot armor is definitely a thing. It's weird. First round picks get plot armor. What does that mean? People will work to find reasons why it's not your fault if you were drafted in a certain range.

And guys who don't have that pedigree, I think, have to fight a little bit harder. And Jalen Hurts, that has been true. And he's had plenty of critics, plenty of people criticize his ability as a passer, his consistency, his accuracy. But again, he won a Super Bowl. That's all that should matter. And that's the point. And that's, I think we lose the plot where it's like,

who gives a damn? Who says if he's three, five, eight, ten, or twelve, he can win you a Super Bowl, which is the entire point of this game. That leads me to a good question. So, you know, he went to a spot and they had to configure the offense around him, which is smart.

That's what they did with Lamar, Jackson and Baltimore. The other thing is, all of these teams should be doing that. You should be trying to load your offense. You should be trying to make it easier on your quarterback. The point is not to hamstring your quarterback so he can be more impressive. That's not what we should be doing. But I wonder, and we'll never know the answer. It's all subjective. What if the Kansas City Chiefs had drafted Dak Prescott, and he had Andy Reid, an offensive genius? Like, is Dak Prescott a Super Bowl champion? He might be. I think landing spot has That's everything.

So, so much to do with it. And, I mean, it's a fascinating conversation. It's more than you can do in one TV segment because how much credit do you give to the player? Like, would Mahomes be this guy if he had landed in... Jacksonville. Jacksonville. Cleveland, wherever you want to say. The results probably would have been really, really good, but would they be already a Hall of Fame or good? I don't know.

And it's an interesting thing. I mean, we look at Trevor Lawrence. He came out. This guy was supposed to be the second Andrew. luck and what does he have one playoff victory and a lot of disappointment? I mentioned first round pick plot armor. I still think Trevor Lawrence is a really good player. I do too.

I'm not giving up on the guy, but we can't say that he is better than some of these guys like Jalen and like Dak that have accomplished more in the NFL than he has, even if I'm not ready to give up on the idea that he could be really good. I think I lost track of how many head coaches he's had. It's three, maybe four. It's three now. It's, I mean, it was urban when he got there. Doug for a couple of year, Doug Peterson for a couple years, and now

Lee's going. So three guys and four years in the league. Mahomes goes to Andy Reid six for a year. And as, I mean, again, I'm not dingin Mahomes. I'm just saying, boy, that must be nice, huh? I think this is, this is the crux of why people get so passionate about this on social media is they want to make sure everybody's taken into account. Like, my guys had three coordinator changes in four years. My guys had this at receiver.

or my guy, the offensive line hasn't given him a chance over the last five years. He doesn't have any of it. So I understand why people get as passionate about this as they do, but especially in the case of Jalen Hertz, like, you have accomplished the ultimate goal, and you are in position to do it at least once, if not a few more times while Jalen Hertz is still in his prime. If I was an Eagles fan, I just, I wouldn't care what anybody thought about my quarterback.

Yeah, that's a good point. Let me go to the Detroit Lions real quick, way off the board. like Jared Goff had a stack deck in Detroit last year. I mean, number one seed, home field advantage, great offensive line, and they get just destroyed by Jaden Daniels Goff, like four interceptions. Terrible game. How big of a step back do they take this year, losing both coordinators, and now they're not chasing anybody.

They're the targets. Schedule's not great. I have them pulling back a little bit in the NFC. It's a tough world to living, man, because if you're a Lions fan, and I still think highly of the Lions, but if you're a Lions fan, you're like, the offensive line has been so key to our success. It's mostly intact. We got golf.

We got the skill players. We're getting Aiden Hutchinson back. I saw that he was cleared for contact recently. I mean, the reason the Lions fell apart the way they did is they had, you know, they had volunteers playing on defense by the end of the year. So if you're a Lions fan, you're sitting there saying, like, it's all there for us. Like, we can do this again. But we've seen what coordinator changes can do.

I mean, Philly. Philly, the team that barely lost the Super Bowl, fell apart a year later after their offensive and defensive play callers left. Aaron Glenn is with your jets now, and obviously Ben Johnson is down in Chicago. Doesn't mean the Lions can't still be successful, but don't try to tell me it doesn't matter either. So how Dan Campbell navigates this is so interesting. I think I trust him. I think I trust Dan Campbell to identify the right guys to do this and the right voices for the room.

And he'll pivot if he needs to, because Ben Johnson didn't start out as his play caller. He promoted him into that job. So I trust Dan Campbell to have it figured out, but you can't just hand-wave that stuff away like it doesn't matter. So when the Giants Stink and Brian Dable gets fired, where do you think he's coaching? Sorry, I had to set it up. You know what's funny? I'm a little, let me finish before you laugh at. Yeah, yeah, go for it.

I'm a little bullish on the Giants. Like, I think their, wait, their roster is, better than I think people give it credit for. And I think Brian Daibble is a good coach. But then the schedule came out and I looked at it and I was like, no, I think they're screwed. I want to believe in the Giants, but that schedule is so tough. I don't have it in front of me. I just know it's something nuts, like six games against playoff

teams in the first eight weeks. Yeah, they go, oh, it's, it is, it's it's a it's a grinder, man. So I think the Giants are not terrible. They'll be frisky. Well, they could be frisky if they ever got a chance to play somebody who wasn't a Super Bowl contender. So I'm kind of with you. I think the Giants are a pretty good team, but I'm not

going to be surprised if Brian Dable has a couple of months to think about where he wants to be in O.C. It's happened before, like, that happened to Dan Quinn, where like you get fired in like October and you, or it happened to Robert Sala last year. You have, like, you just have

two or three months to kind of think about what you want to do. I'm not going to be surprised if that's Ryan Dayroll. Sorry, Giants fans. As a Jets guy, I had to end that way. I said, I think they, I like the roster. I just really don't like the schedule. You're the one.

Nobody else likes them. I think it's all right. Great stuff. David Helmut, check out, obviously, the NFL on Fox podcast. Good stuff, man. Enjoy the weekend. Yeah. Coming up next, Alex Curry, juicy NFL trade that just went down.

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This is the herd line news. All right, Jay Mack, you've been teasing this. Reports say that the Eagles have agreed, in principle, to trade defensive end, Bryce Huff to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for a mid-round pick. Now, you're familiar. with this guy because he was on your jet from 2021 to 2023.

He actually had a career year in 2023, career high 10 sacks. And after that season, that's when he signed the three-year, $51 million deal with the Eagles, but he kind of had a down season. Kind of? Kind of. He only had two, what is it say? Two sacks and two and a half sacks in 12 games. Inactive in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, only played 13 snaps in the postseason, didn't play in the season. didn't play in the Super Bowl. It's just, you hope that maybe it was just a down year and now he would be, he's going to be reunited with Sala in San Francisco. It's a need that San Francisco needs. They ranked 23rd in sacks last year. So a couple things. So number one, he was a situational guy with the Jets.

Not an every down player. Yeah. But situationally, you're fresh. You could go in, like, boom. And he dominated with the Jets. Then he goes to the Eagles. they quickly found out, ooh, this guy's not an every down guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then he gets hurt. The 49ers pass rush was anemic last year, so they drafted McHale Williams out of Georgia, who's awesome. Huff is going to be a situational guy. He should thrive. I absolutely love this pickup. I'm just telling you guys now, buy Niners stop. I think a Super Bowl is well within reach.

You can doubt Bertie if you want. That's fine. As long as Kittle and Trent Williams are healthy, I think they are one or two in the NFC. I think it helps them so much that they have. such a bad season last year. Again, we talked about this before. The two seasons before that,

they were the favorites. And it was like, this is their Super Bowl window. If they don't do it now, they're not going to do it. Now nobody has any expectations, and they have one of the easiest schedules this season. I like the night. They're going to sneak up. This is this year that I think they can sneak up on it.

All right, let's move to the NBA. We had some crazy performances as playoffs, but two really big standouts. Both SGA and Jalen Brunson have entered into an exclusive club. They joined LeBron James and Michael Jordan as the only players have more than 30 points in five assists in at least 10 games in a postseason run.

So if you're in the conversation with the goats and those are the only two other players in this club, I see you're in pretty good company. What? I'm not sure what to make. I'm not sure what to make of this. So, Alex, is it, hey man, we could cherry pick some stats and put you in a discussion with LeBron?

Or is Jalen Brunson just been that frigging good? He's been that good. Why are you down on Brunson? I thought you were high on Brunson. I'm high on Brunson, but three of those guys play amazing defense. And Brunson's D has been a little bit exposed. Okay. Listen, I will tune it all out if he could somehow get us a win in game six Saturday.

He's going to need to do more than 30 and five, that's for sure. You're going into hostile territory. You know they're going to load up on Brunson and say, they don't have anybody else who could beat us. Can you do it? I think so. But I jumped on the bandwagon. I got blinded and jumped on the bandwagon.

Alex, sometimes we go heart overhead. And that hurts. And I do that with the Jets. I know you did. Way too much. I hear the laughter from the peanut gallery year. I'm going to take Nix, but I'm not betting the game. No, I don't have zero money.

Really? Well, I bet game four and they lost that in India. I was like, it's been a rough conference finals for your boy. Your wallet can't take it. Hasn't it been a rough NBA playoffs for you? No, no. The NBA playoffs were good initially. Okay.

Because I had the Pacers beating the Cavs. That was a big win. Okay. But I just, I don't like the boring ass thunder. I don't like them. So I've been betting against them. And it's been hurting the wallet. So I'm done.

I'm done. Again, that's heart. Heart overhead. Yes. I hope they win because I love a game seven, no matter what sport you win. Oh, at the garden too? And oh, by the way, we could use that next week.

Hint, hint, audience. Yeah. No. Come on, let's do it. All right, let's go back to the NFL. Patrick Mahomes took Rishie Rice out in a bit of a friendly fire early last season. And the wide receiver room struggled because of it. Rice is back healthy and running around at OTAs.

And his quarterback likes the way he looks. He's out there playing. He's making plays on the football field. He's explosive. He looks fast. And, I mean, you saw the start of last season. I think he can be one of the best receivers in the league. Yeah, I mean, he only played in four games last season.

He got hurt. But his rookie season, he did well. 16 games played, eight starts, 938 receiving yards and seven touchdowns. Yeah. Did well in the Super Bowl. But again, like, it's not a big flashy name. How big of an impact do you think? It's like me asking you how the chiefs are going to do is just I.

I feel like I need them to play that audio again. Did he say running around or running from the police? Oh, just kidding. That was a joke. Resey Rice has had some off-field issues. I can say that. It's factual. He has an off-field issue. I think he's going to be fine. Listen, Rashid Rice is a really good receiver.

Yeah. And I will admit, in 2023 at the end of the season, he did look like he could be a number one receiver. He did. So if he clicks, Kelsey has that turn back the clock gear. Hollywood Brown shows up. Yeah, they're going to win 10, 11 games. And I'm going to be okay. All right, I was wrong. You're going to be wrong. Alex. I'm calling. I've been saying this since your first. take on this like a month or two ago on the show. You shall see.

Okay, let's wrap things up. In New York, Russell Wilson said he decided to sign with the Giants for several reasons, but a big one was the opportunity to play with second year wide receiver. Nick Navers, Russ, paid neighbors some very high praise on a recent podcast.

Checked out. Well, that's the news. Those neighbors, man, this dude's a superstar. I saw him watching the film and just before I try to make decisions, try to get a clear of who the players are, this and then. Obviously, you see the highlights and everything else, but when you watch every single catch and every single rep and every play,

you get to see the kind of player he is. Man, he's dynamic. He touches that football. He's gone. Yeah, he's a special player, but the whole, like Russ deciding to play in New York, I'm curious how big that market was for him because Steelers didn't want him back. He had a decent, he had a good start with them, but he wasn't good when it counted.

Down the stretch, like four-game losing streak at the end there. I just, it's going to be an interesting quarterback room with Russ, James Winston, Jackson Dart, Tommy DeVito. I'll tell you now, the media loves Jackson Dart. Yeah. Russ is going to have to overcome that. Jackson Dart. And he's only on a one-year, 10.5 million deal. So the positive for Russ is he throws a great ball down the sideline.

Him and Pickens were working last year. Neighbors is to go up and get it guy. You know, so I think that could work well for those two. But again, as David Hellman pointed out, the schedule is just lethal. It would be, it's going to take like moving heaven and earth for the Giants to get to the playoffs next year. I don't see that happening. No. So.

Not with this quarterback room. Yeah. Either. All right, Alex Curry with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. All right, we'll close out with a little Tyrese Halliburton thing here.

I like Halliburton a lot. You guys know I picked him and the Pacers to beat the Cavs. Last year, I saw some things from Halliburton in the, with that in-season tournament, whatever it's called. I was like, this guy's nice. I like his game. And last night he had an egg. He had seven shot attempts.

And all these people in my mentions on my text chains, J. Mack, you guys killed Anthony Edwards. You got to go after Halliburton. I'm like, let's slow down. Halliburton's not a scoring machine, although one of the crazier stats, when Halliburton scores over 20 points, the Pacers are 31 and 4.

He has cooked in the series and look at these single-digit numbers. 8, 6, and 2, a minus 23 in the garden last night? So Halliburton talked about needing to step up last night after the loss. We got to be better as a group. I think our pace has to be better,

and that starts with me. I've got to be better there. As a group, we've shown that we can have some success, you know, this playoffs, and it was a rough showing for us tonight. So, you know, we'll watch the film, see where we can get better and be prepared for game six. So listen, he's a pro, he's great, he'll bounce back. The Halliburton story, you know, you guys can go read about him on Wikipedia.

I love it. Another underdog where he was in, I think, Wisconsin, and like none of the big schools wanted him. And he went to Iowa State, absolutely torched folks. Goes to the NBA and has been just exceptional. Ian Begley came on earlier and talked about how the Knicks slowed him down last night. I think you have to give Mikhail Bridges credit, right? Because, you know, he's been kind of a lightning rod for the Nick fan out there, following this team all year, blaming Bridges for a lot, not being satisfied with his play.

But I think game five, he pressured Halliburton. He picked him up further down the court than they had been earlier in the series, got into his body, tried to deny the ball when he was off the ball. It did well, did really well, pressuring him, and really prevent. preventing him from doing much of what he did in game four. Now, look, game six, you know Halliburton is going to take more than seven shots. You know he's going to be much more active there. So he's going to adjust how do the Knicks adjust?

But at least for one night, for game five, you know, Bridges led the charges there and help slow Halliburton down. Yeah, and listen, you guys know I like to hype up my men's rec league action. When JMAX's on the court, he's picking up full court. Okay? I'm sorry. You can laugh all you want. But I totally agree.

We're seeing, listen, Minnesota got that treatment from OKC. Go look at the thunder. Guys, they were picking up Jamal Murray full court to the point that Yokic had to bring the ball up the court. You think the 7 foot 260 pounds center wants to do that every time? It wears you down. It's just basic strategy. I don't know why tips took forever to do it, but they were jamming Halliburton full court. And it's just like be a nuisance, be a nat.

And watch, by the way, the Pacers. They do this to Jalen Brunson. A lot of his T.J. McConnell, for those of you who follow me on Instagram, there's a great T.J. McConnell video I popped where he talks about, hey, man, I want to be in the NBA. What do I have to do? I got to move my feet. I got to pick up full court. I've got to make defense my calling card. Hey, Landry Shamet, Saturday night. Can you give me seven minutes of just being a nuisance for Tyrese Halliburton? Hey, Dilan, right. Yeah, you've got long arms. You're a long defender. Can you give me six minutes of that? So Bridges is fresh in the fourth quarter and we bring it back to New York. celebrate in the garden? Can we do that? Alex, I'm getting too fired up, but it's like, I just what I was hoping for when I saw you when we got here at like, what, 630 this morning? And you're like, it's too hilarious for this excitement. I'm like, this is what I was expecting.

This is what I wanted to see. And it's good. They should. Like, there's a chance. The Nix have the right attitude. I said it when we heard from Carl Anthony Towns after the game. I said, why not us? You're taking it one game at a time. So, why not us? Nick Spacers, Yankees here against the Dodgers. Oh, sports. How good do we have it? Oh, sports.

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