The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - NFL ratings

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Colin talks to Albert Breer about the Senior Bowl and what could happen in the NFL draft Chiefs vs Eagles again should be a good matchup with great ratings  More on Colin's interview with Chiefs HC Andy ReidSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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reading out of the Senior Bowl where Albert Breer is going to join us, that Riley Leonard, Notre Dame quarterback had some impressive throws. Very interesting. Everybody knows I love Riley Leonard, and Kyle McCord, by the way, at Syracuse. I will say this right now.

I'm going to predict he will be a second round pick, and I think he has a chance to be the best quarterback in the draft. You think I'm out of my... Is he there, by the way? Is Kyle McCord there? No, he's not. No, he's not here. I watched Kyle McCord quite a bit, you know, when he was a junior.

So he's got an interesting story, and I think it's sort of indicative of the whole class, you know, Colin, where there are, I mean, two guys who I think have a good shot to go in the first round and Shadour Sanders and Cam Ward. Then after that, it's just sort of this big mishmash of players that have their pluses and their minuses. Jackson Dart from Boldnesses in that group. Will Howard from Ohio State made played himself into that group. McCord, Jalen Milrow. So it's interesting from that standpoint. I don't know that any of these guys would have gone over the top

six last year, even should Oricam. But, you know, there are a lot of guys, I think, who have a chance to help themselves quite a bit over the next three months, and that should make it exciting. So, you know, we have all these coaching situations going on. I went back and looked

at the Jerry Stephen Jones press conference. It was, at minimum, uncomfortable, at times a little cringy. I said this, and I'm trying to be fair. It's starting to feel like the old Al Davis Raiders, where they're kind of doing their own thing. They're not really, they're not amongst the league.

They're kind of on their own island. What was your take on that press conference? Using air quotes to talk about, he goes, we're in a drought. Well, yeah, it's 29 years. It is a drought. It's not make-believe by us. Yeah, I mean, what I would check in with people about where their search was, and this is the way it's been, you know, for the last couple of years in a number of different areas.

Like, there's this, it's up to Jerry, or frame to almost everything. And you do wonder if it's time for Stephen, who's, you know, I mean, grown up in the business. You know, you can say what you want about him being the owner's son. Like, this is really his life's work, is the football team. Is it time for him to have a little bit more control over things? You know, I think you're right, like to look at the way this happened. Now, Brian Schott-Member is a good football coach, and one of the more well-lites guys you'll find in the NFL.

There are a lot of people out there rooting for them. That doesn't mean the process wasn't a mess. And, you know, the first thing you think of, and, you know, when you talk to other teams about this, is the Cowboys looked unprepared to do a search. Yes. You know, they're the second week of January, which is kind of mind-blowing when you consider the fact

that they're the ones who sent Mike McCarthy into the contract, year in the first place, knowing this was a possibility from the very start. And, you know, really didn't have much of the groundwork done. And to hold McCarthy to his contract for an extra eight days and then launch your own coaching search after you sort of jeopardize your ability to talk to the Lions' Chief's assistance, it was messy in about a million different ways. And so, you know, I think you come out of this saying, like, how is it possible that the Cowboys weren't more prepared to do a coaching search?

And in the other piece of evidence that they weren't prepared. is how insular the whole thing was. They had two renewal candidates and Leslie Frazier and Robert Salon. Other than that, every name you heard was connected to the franchise. People that Joneses know. Whether it was Brian Chottnerma where they wind up hiring, Jason Witten, Dionne Sanders, Kellynne Moore. There's just something that's so insular about the whole thing, you know. And so I think there are big picture questions here separate from whether or not Brian Schopenheimer's success as the head coach. I think Pete Carroll to the Raiders fits.

I actually like SpyTech, the kid from Tampa. I feel like, oh my God, did the Raiders get it right? There are no A-plus-plus quarterbacks. Milro, Chedure, Cam, Riley, Leonard. They're all, they don't feel transformational. What do you think? What do you think? Raiders have to get a quarterback in the division with Herbert,

Bo Nixon Mahomes, which creates real urgency. What would be a guess? I mean, there's a Darnold, there's Kirk Cousins, there's Russell Wilson, there's some options out here. If you had to guess where Pete goes in the quarterback, because you're not winning in that division without a quarterback. The coaching and quarterbacking is too good. Where do you think they go?

The easy answer is Russell Wilson. And that at least allows you to tread water where you're not forced to do something you don't want to do in the draft, right? I mean, before Carol and SpyTech were hired, one thing I had heard was the football people there were going to be under a mandate to go find one. And they, like the Giants, spent a lot of time on the road. Their scouting department did, looking at the quarterbacks ahead of the end of the college season. So there's a lot of groundwork that's been laid there to take a quarterback. But I think you and I both know the worst thing you can do is overdraft a quarterback and take yourself out of the market for quarterbacks for two or three years and get it wrong.

So, you know, I think the smart thing to do, I think what Pete Carroll will look to do and John SpyTech will look to do is to find somebody that they're comfortable treading water with for the next couple of years. And again, like to me, like Russell Wilson is the one that sort of makes sense for them because Pete has the background with him. He's familiar with what Pete's going to be trying to establish from, you know, a cultural standpoint. And look, like, I think a lot of the friction between Seattle and Russell, like, I think the Seahawks have been proven right on a lot of that stuff. Pete Carroll knew how to play Russell Wilson. He knew how to deploy Russell Wilson. I think Russell had to find out for himself in a lot of different ways that his desire to go out and be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady

and throw the ball all over the yard and run the offense out of the shot. Not realistic. Yeah. It wasn't realistic. And I think that's one thing Pittsburgh did really well with him last year is get him back to what he does well. And there's nobody who knows what he does well better than Pete Carroll because I think he's got it right for a lot of years.

Sequin Barkley, I was saying this, whether it's Reggie White, Drew Brees to the Saints, Reggie White, Charles Woodson to the Packers, to get a great all-time player in their prime in the market, somebody has to make a big mistake. The Eagles, if you remember, they had an owner that made players pay for equipment. They hired Rich Cotite. That was a bad ownership situation. Let Reggie White go. Al Davis got old.

Charles Woodson. great player lets him go. Doctors in Miami would no key. Okay, Drew Breeze. Saints pick up on him. Somebody has to make a mistake. Are you surprised a little that there hasn't been more fallout on the giants handing their rival a Walter Payton, Barry Sanders level, great player, and that he now humiliates them. It's not quite Babe Ruth to the Yankees, but it is a rival, and he humiliates you.

every Sunday and yet the GM retained his job. Yeah, I think it's, I think there's, the hard knocks thing definitely made it worse. You know what I mean? Like in the optics of all, that definitely made it worse. You know, that said, I think you look at it and it's, I don't think it's, the, the situation's created the same way you're talking about an older running back for all teams, right? and you know I look at like the three teams that did really well signing running backs because what they saw all three of them the Packers the Ravens and of course the Eagles they saw that the market had been depressed at that position to the point where now a great running back was an incredible value and they they all got incredible values Derek Henry in Baltimore Josh Jacobs and Green Bay and Saquan Berkeley and Philly but the reality here Colin is if you are going to pay Saquan Barkley how much longer is he going to be great for based on the wear and tear in his body his mileage his age all of that and are you going to be

good enough to be able to maximize him right like in other words are you going to be able to rebuild that thing fast enough where Sequin Barclay is going to be a great player on a championship level team the way he is in Philly then I think for the Giants the answer to that was no well like we like we are not going to be on a championship level fast enough where we can put this guy in position to be the best player on a championship level team which I think is a big reason why they let them go. Now, you could argue that they should have done on the year before, and that's a fair argument. That's 100% something you can look at and say yes.

They should have gotten that done, especially with what they paid for Daniel Jones. But I think where they did it, you just look at it the guy is going into his seventh year at that point, and historically running backs don't do great after that point. And you say to yourself, we're just not going to be at a championship level fast enough to maximize what Saquan-Barkly is. Finally,

I don't make anything of it. I heard it for years. I was in ESPN for 11 years in Connecticut. Oh, the league wants Brady to win. They get all the calls. I don't make anything of it. I thought it was a first down. It's go either way.

But do you think the league is sensitive? I mean, the game got 56 million viewers. Do you think they're sensitive to all this? The league wants Taylor Swift, Bahalms, and the Chiefs to win? The league officer is everything. And they do have rabbit ears. And that's what happens when you stuff in office with lawyers and PR people. Their training is to react, right?

So they're always reacting to something. And certainly, like, the way that game is officiated is giving them a lot to react to. Look, here's the bottom line, Colin. And I feel really strongly about this. And this isn't new for me. I've said this for a while now. You have the technology to get these things right. And the reality is the reason these things have become a bigger deal is because we can see more now.

because at every game you have 15, 20 different angles, crystal clear, high definition. So you as a viewer on your couch at home in Southern California, Colin, have the benefit of all of those cameras, right? Right, right. Yet we're not giving the officials the benefit of that. So, like, it still makes no sense to me why you can't find somebody at every game,

put them up top and say you are in charge of paying attention to what's going on on all the different angles, and you have the power to buzz down to the official and make a change if there's something that is wrong or egregious that happens. And then at least the fan knows that you've done everything that you can to try and get it right. These questions are going to keep coming up, and it gets thornier when you're talking about having, you know, partnerships with gambling companies and all of that different stuff. You know, I just think, like, you owe it to the public to try to make sure that they know that you're doing your very best

to get as many of the calls right as you possibly can, and I don't think they're doing that yet. And so I think you get there and then maybe that helps a little bit with all of this. And look, like the reality of it is, like I hear people in New England where I live complaining about, about Mahomes getting calls, which might be the most tough thing I've ever heard based on the benefits that they had for 20 years with Tom Brady as a quarterback. The reality is guys like that are just going to get officiated differently. It is what it is. You know, it's Brady, it's Mahomes. The way Michael Jordan was officiated when he was with the Bulls, you know, it's just sort of a reality of it.

Again, I think the best the NFL can do is pull every lever to try to get as many of the calls right as they possibly can. And I think you use the technology to get yourself there. Albert Breer at the Senior Bowl, always appreciate it. Keep your eye on Woody Mark's USC running back. Keep your eye on it. Woody Mark, I'll take it out. I'll head right back out there and keep an eye on them for you. Hey, I watch your Buckeyes.

You can watch an occasional Trojan. We only send a couple to the NFL every year. Good seeing you, Albert. All right, thanks, Colin. Yeah. I've never gone to the Senior Bowl. Heard great things about it. It just comes every year.

It's at this time. I can't get, everybody just raves about it. Daniel Jeremiah, I was texting with him this week. He's there, and it sounds like a party for journalists, basically. You go down there and just live it up, hang out with NFL front office guys all week. Let me tell you what a party is. Who's in it up? Super Bowl Week in New Orleans.

Do you like oysters? I do, yeah. Okay. Do you like cocktails? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. They got plenty of both down there. Nice. That's great.

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No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin Saquan Barkley. Boy, what a factor he's been for the Eagle's success this season. Giants. Giants did not re-sign him as a free agent.

Letting go to divisional rival, MVP finalist, now in the Super Bowl. What a disaster for the Giants. Kyle Van Nuoy, who was on the show this week, gave kudos to Seekwon season. I just want to give my kudos to Sequin. How he's handled this whole situation has been just first class, right? Always love to the Giants. Always love. But he's like, you know what?

got a new family. I got the Eagles. I'm going to put the Eagles on my back like I did the Giants. He's used this year as middle finger year. I literally see that in his play, in his play style, the enthusiasm he has each and every time he gets the ball. Yeah, it's been, uh, it, it, you and I didn't buy into this narrative. You and I did not, we push back, this idea that running backs, it was a lot of young media, running backs. This is Unfair. Safetys and tight ends have never been paid. Running backs will have value because they control the clock. They help quarterbacks, especially young ones. A wide receiver is largely dependent on a quarterback. A quarterback can sometimes, like Brock Purdy, be dependent on a running back. It's the opposite.

A great running back, take out the top five quarterbacks. Brock Purdy's a different quarterback with Christian McCaffrey. When McCaffrey was healthy, you didn't miss Brandon Ayyuk. Running backs will always have value. Have you seen 8 Mile with Eminem, the movie? I think I've seen. I don't think the movie, I don't think I did. Just this whole middle finger thing reminds me at the end of the movie there's this

amazing wrap-off scene. And Eminem basically says, I'm still standing here, screaming, you know, bleep the guys who have been beating me up all the time. And Sequin Barkley could have that. Imagine if he's a Super Bowl MVP, and he gets to stand at the podium and be like, hey, they did not want me. And here I had a 2,000 yard season, and I won the Super Bowl. Colin, that is as good as it gets of a story in the NFL. Think about somebody sitting in a room.

This tells you the state of football in New York. Somebody sat in a room and said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to sign Daniel Jones to an expensive contract. What about Sequin? We can find another Saquan Barclay. Did they not contextualize it and go, God, it's amazing how good Sequin is when he has a bad O-line and no receivers to keep safeties out of the box. Like, you start to look at the Giants and some of these decisions between Gettleman and Joe Shane, I just don't understand them. I watched Daniel Jones play in college, and I don't get.

I don't remember anybody saying, you've got to lock down Daniel. No, I mean, I watched him against bad teams. I never got it. I know he beat the Vikings in that playoff game. He had a good game. Vikings that year were the worst defense in the league. Exactly. Like context matters.

Anyways, let's move on to the Rams. This is kind of an interesting story, I think. GM Les Need was asked about the future of both Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup. And Les Need left the door open for potentially trading both players. We're talking about a subset of players, not just Matthew and Cooper, that are coming to the end of their careers and contracts. those are issues we really have to sit down and talk through. Now, I understand Cooper Cup, right?

But Matthew Stafford? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now let's talk about this for a second. So we both love Stafford. Both love him. And like Brady at the end, he's still very effective. But as the game, as the culture of the league has changed, look at the teams left, two mobile quarterbacks.

Look at the top seven or eight teams in the league. Goff and Stafford are the last two elite. pocket quarterbacks is I think the Rams are looking around. They've always been ahead of the curve on this stuff. They're looking around going, guys, we may have the last great pure pocket quarterback. We may have the last one because all these kids now come out and can move. Overwhelmingly five or six of the quarterback, Michael Pennix was the only quarterback. I mean, Bo Nix moves, Jaden moves, Drake moves, Caleb moves. They all move. They all move. And I think I can see them saying, if we can get a second round pick for Stafford, and you'd get at least two-toes,

for Stafford, they think they have a good enough roster to kind of rebuild it with McVeigh. I think it's on the table. I would rather move early than late. I think he has more value now. If he comes back next year, and it doesn't go as well, because Washington's better. Right? And you look at it and you're thinking, will Matt Stafford ever have more value, than this moment right now. Because he is, nobody talks about his age right now. It's like Stafford. We're putting him a number five in the league.

He is 36. Oh, he turns 37 here in like eight days or 10 days. And he's been, this year he was held. He's had some injuries. Numbers were a little down this year, 20 touchdown passes. I totally get them. If somebody can't, I'm dead serious. We have seen big name quarterbacks move last several years.

Aaron, Kirk, Russell, they're moving. Okay. I am dead serious. I think they would move him. And I think they love him and they'd move off him for the right price. Don't see it happening. What if the New York Jets called the Rams and said, hey, do you want to get in the Aaron Rogers business? We would love a Matthew Stafford final tour with the Jets.

Who would you rather have next year? Matthew Stafford or Aaron Rogers? Stafford by mile. Absolutely. Easier in the locker room. That's a bad. Give me another one. I guess the Jets would have to throw in a pick of some kind.

I would love to get in the Stafford business. Great guy in the community. stand-up guy in the locker room. No, no, everybody. I would take him over Rogers and Hart. The Rams love him. They have two options. They cannot draft the quarterback

and use all their picks and give him one final run at the Super Bowl with four or five new good players. But Matt makes so much money and Cooper Cup makes so much money. Their offense, those guys are a lot of money, so they have limitations on what they can acquire in the market.

How's this one? Saints. Derek Carr goes to the Rams. No, no, no, no. They don't want him. No, no, no. You're not going to, McVeigh's not going to take a significantly less talent

that cornerback. Now, he will take a less-counted guy who's free as a second-round pick. Oh, yeah. So my take is if somebody came up, they would not trade you Stafford. They would get a number one and the number two. It's a tough fit for Stafford. Every quarterback left is mobile, or the quarterbacks left in the playoffs are all mobile. Baker-Mayfield's mobile. Stafford's not mobile. No. So I think it's one of those things. If you're the Rams, you absolutely take a phone call. Because I think his value now is higher than it's going to be. Okay. It's going to be next year.

Final story is the Cleveland Browns. They have the second pick in the draft. They're probably going to need to replace Deacon Watson, who not only is terrible, but retore his Achilles. There have been reports Dion would step in and not allow his son should do her to play for certain teams. But the Browns, despite all appearances that, hey, they probably wouldn't want, Dion would not want his son there. According to a reporter in Cleveland, GM Matthew Barry says he doesn't anticipate that being a problem. I.e. Dion's intervening and saying Chador, don't go to Cleveland. Browns do not draft him. Do you think Dion would be cool with that? His son going to Cleveland? Now, Stefansky's a very sharp guy.

We know Brown's ownership is quite bad. Well, I mean, Cleveland's, it's not a franchise I'd love my kid to go to? No, it's not it. So you think Dion would step in? Be like, eh, don't take my son. Well, I mean, the Elways did it. Eli did it. Those were number one overall picks. I don't think Shadour is going to go one. I don't think that's happening. I mean, it's just hard to say. I think Shadduer is a really good kid.

I am rooting for him to go somewhere not called Cleveland. I'm rooting for him to have a great career. I think it would be fascinating if Shadur Sanders, I even like the name. He just sounds cool, sounds like a franchise guy, plays like it. He's a nice pocket guy that's got a little bit of movement. I am rooting for him to succeed. I don't think Cleveland's where you go to succeed.

Okay. Do you disagree with me? I don't think Shadour's in a position where he can say, I'm not going to you second overall. I don't think he's in the Eli Manning class coming out. I don't think he's in the Elway class coming out. I just don't. I like him.

I think he could do well with Stefansky and Cleveland. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. We've a contentious show today. Back and forth. We got into G-League basketball today.

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off. So we had the great Andy Reid on earlier today. Always fun. another thrilling victory for the Chiefs. And I wanted to bring just about five minutes back. One of the things I asked him, if he manages and coaches his star older players differently like Travis Kelsey.

To be honest with you, because I've been around him for so long, and we've had my whole duration here and drafted him and so on. So I know, I kind of know where he's at physically, mentally. I know what he can do in games. And so we try to utilize him. I also know what's around him, which helps him because for a while there, we were banged up a little bit and guys were trying to learn. And, you know, he was being double-teamed and that wasn't as good for him.

but Travis would be a heck of a football coach. He's able to get up there and explain things and teach these young guys exactly what he sees and feels. Not that they all have that same talent, but he's got a good feel for the game. Years ago I asked Pete Carroll. I was sitting in his office at USC, and I said, what are you proudest about about your team?

And he said, I never forget this. He said, you have to play nearly perfect to beat us. He goes, we play so hard. We play so hard. Now, this is where I'm going to ask you not to be humble for 10 seconds. I'll never ask you this again. This is the only time. If there was a room of great coaches, and they were talking about Andy Reid,

and they said, here's Andy's best quality with Andy's teams, what is the thing that you want to be remembered for beyond trophies, but that you're proud of and your team, and, by the way, it may be players and you. But what matters do you beyond the winning in your legacy? Yeah, I think teaching. I think that's an important thing, being honest with the guys, trusting the guys. I think those are all things I think are important.

I hope I'm doing that part of it. So I would tell you that those are probably the things that I'd look for. Yeah, people would call you a great teacher. So Michael Vick once told me, he said, with Andy, Andy lets you be you, but he coaches around what you can do. You've had Mahomes now for so many years. Are you coaching Patrick differently today in big games than you did like four to five years ago? Yes.

Four to five years ago, he didn't have the same feel he's got for the game now. And wasn't as solid with all of his surroundings there and different options. So, yeah, we do it different with him now, have a lot of trust in him and what he knows and what he can do at the line of scrimmage. And he's very accurate with that. So it's definitely different. Has he ever talked to in or out of something on the sidelines when the cameras at CBS go on and now it'll be at Fox when we have the cameras on you?

Has he ever talked to inner out of something late? No, but he'll have an idea, but normally he just goes, just call it. You know, he just wants you to call, he wants you to call what's on your mind and, you know, he'll go run it. He doesn't get into all that, but I ask him, what do you like here? I have no problem with that. Matt Nagy does a great job with that. So we try to keep it as open as possible, and as you know, you're a quarterback.

you know, you're a quarterback. Normally if the quarterback likes something, it's going to get done. Yeah. I know you've looked at the tape of Philadelphia. It is a green wall of talent. They got dudes, Andy, maybe the only team you match up with all year, and they have more Pro Bowl kind of level players. When you pop that tape in all your years,

what is the first thing that jumps out to you with Philadelphia? Yeah, I tell you, their skill position and their D-line. jumps out at you. They've got great skill. They've got a quarterback that can deal it. Their offensive line is strong. They were banged up a little bit, but they're strong. And then that D-line and their speed on the second level, the linebacker level,

in the back end with the secondary shows up. Yeah. Do you... I've done a nice job there. He has. do you envision how games are going to go? Do you have a sense? Like Buffalo, if I said to you, it's kind of kind of look like this.

Like you came out attack dog. I mean, you know, first drive felt like it was kind of scripted a little bit, but I could tell you'd seen something in the coverage. You went right after it. Do you have a sense of what games looked like before they happened? Or do they develop and sometimes you just sit back, watch it develop, and call it as it goes? Normally this time of the year, Colin,

you have a pretty good idea of what teams are doing. They have a pretty good idea of what you're doing. And it allows, really, it allows your guys to go out and play and play fast. And so, I'm always telling the guys that every step you take

in the playoffs, the games get a little faster. Well, that's why. You know, it's not just an effort thing. It's that you've mastered kind of all these different schemes that we've got in and you can play fast. And it goes that way at both sides and specialties.

Yeah. I did a story at an essay this week, and I said, I hope you don't retire. I mean, I cannot imagine retirement, even if you love golf, is nearly this fun. Do you ever take a breath and go, damn, this is fun? This is a good time. Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I love doing what I'm doing. So how many guys have an offer?

There are 32 of us in the whole world. and that have an opportunity to do this. And then I'm around these kids, so I'm getting older, losing my hair, no red hair left, and I go out there, and I'm with a group of guys that are somewhere between 22 and 35

every day. And they bring all his energy. And if you're limping, they're going to get out to you and make fun of you. So I've got to try to stand up straight and go right and do my thing. Yeah,

I think we were talking about this yesterday on the show about dynasties all kind of look different. The spurs were led by the big fundamental. Alabama was mostly led by this dominating suffocating defense. USC's was Reggie and

Linerd and big personality and flare in Los Angeles. And New England's was efficiency and do your job. And I do think there's a certain flare. That's why I think Taylor Swift is so fitting in Kelsey's personality and Taylor Swift and Mahalms.

He's got, you know, kind of a quirky family. I think it, I think it, I think it wears well over time. I thought, I even felt being in Connecticut and in Patriots country, I had Patriot fatigue. I kind of had, I'll be honest with you, I have a little bit of LeBron fatigue. Like, I'm waiting for the NBA to find its next revolutionary player. I've seen that. I'm happy.

Don't begrudge it. Like Michael Jordan, like when he left, you're like, oh, man. no more Michael that's how I feel when football season's end it's like no more Bill's Chiefs nothing against March Madness I like that too but I don't know I tend to think this wears pretty well

I think the rating's going to be big I think you have the best roster and the best coaching quarterback and it's not a surprise those are the things that get you to Super Bowls best roster best coaching quarterback it wouldn't be good if the team of the best coaching quarterback also had the best roster

then you could have a blowout. But what the yin and yang here is, Philadelphia, they're not as good at coach, they're not as good at quarterback, they're probably better overall roster, and that's why you've got a 30-27 game. Jay Mack, this show was a little all over the joint today. I started, I was on one. I had a good night's sleep,

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