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All right, Odell Beckham, likes to go on social media, poke this, poke that, we're not sure. I think he fits really well in Green Bay. Doubt it happens. I think if Alan Robinson ended up being as dynamic as we hoped, he wouldn't be in play in L.A.,

but I think he sort of is. what are you hearing about his health and his landing spot? Yeah, I mean, I think that the idea has been all along that he'd be ready around mid-November. So we're right on track and that's going back to February that that's been the timeline. So he's been planning on this. You know, I think really, Colin, you've got to look at like what he went through last year. And he saw the benefits of winning. And if he doesn't go down on that Super Bowl, I think he's got a pretty good chance to recoup some of the money he lost.

He's a pretty sizable third contract. So I think he knows that going. to a place where he can win, will set him up to get a big payday after the year. If he can prove he's healthy and again, he can win another championship, then that'd be huge for him. So I think the Packers would certainly

be in play. He obviously had talks with him last year. There's the relationship with Tom Brady. If Julio's situation continues to be murky, I can see the Buccaneers making a play for him. And then I think Buffalo is one you certainly need to keep an eye on because of the relationship with Von Miller

and obviously what Josh Allen could do for him as a quarterback. So, yeah, I think the four teams to really kind of keep an eye on here would be the Rams, of course, because he was there. Does he think it's still as good an opportunity to win? We'll see. But the other three would be the Packers, the bills in the box. All right. Kansas City Metro PD is upset with Devante Adams. Is the league, is his team, is he facing a suspension?

Because he's so vital to the Raiders who are now one and four. And about as good you can be in this league at one and four. Like, they really need him. They've their schedule. offens a little bit. What's the, is there a suspension in the offing for Devonthe Adams? I think a fine is more likely than a suspension at this point. Obviously, you know, suspension was on the table earlier in the week, but generally the way these things work is if they're going to suspend a guy, they like to get the information to the team ahead of

their preparation for the week. And, you know, now we're pretty deep into the week of preparation for the Raiders. Generally, generally speaking, that means fine, not suspension. Because the fines come out on Friday. Generally, you'll hear about the suspension on Tuesday or Wednesday. You know, that said, I think there is some understanding here of why this happened. You know, it's sort of on the chiefs to keep the tunnel clear. I know this is getting into some technical stuff about game operations and everything else. You know, but in a lot of different stadiums across the NFL, you'll see that if you're a fan with a field pass or you're a media member, you know, that tunnel, that area right around the tunnel will be blocked off a lot of the time.

I think Devante could reasonably say here. I was just shocked there was somebody that was right in my path on the way up the tunnel. And I reacted poorly, but it was a very unusual situation. So obviously something that they have to punish. But I think there's a reasonable reason why they wouldn't suspend him in this situation. Okay. Listen, Washington's a mess as an organization, and it starts with Dan Snyder. Ron Rivera had to backtrack on Carson Wentz.

They have moved off quarterbacks and coaches quickly. let's say they go out tonight and Justin Fields wins. It's a dud. Is he the hottest hot seat in the league right now, Ron Rivera? Well, I think there are two different ways to look at this. Number one, I think if you're backsliding three straight years, your first three years of the team and it looks like that's where the commanders are right now, there's no question that almost any other coach in the league would be in trouble.

But I also think you have to look at the flip side of this, which is what was Ron Rivera brought in to do? He was brought in a lot of ways to sort of change the face of the franchise. give the franchise maybe a little bit of a softer look, like that something that was a little bit more relatable. And after everything they'd gone through previous to his arrival, the feeling was he could be a guy who could kind of change the image of the franchise. And I think in a lot of ways, like he has served as like the human meat shield. You know, they saw him in Carolina,

handled the Greg Hardy mess, handled the Jerry Richardson mess. Well, now you look at what he's sort of guided them through, the nickname change, the workplace conduct. scandal, all of that, like he's had to be the face of all of that. So I think the question here becomes how much collateral has Ron Rivera built up with ownership in being the guy who's stood in front of it and taking bullets for the owner when the owner wasn't willing to take him, take them for himself. And so, yeah, I think there's no question that on a performance, from a performance standpoint, you look at this and you say, yeah, he absolutely, you know,

we should be talking about whether or not he should have a job after the year. But because of the, I think equity that he built up in the organization and taking a lot of bullets for the owner, I think it's an open question whether or not he survives. Well, you know the Boston area well, Belichick kind of grumpy, grumbling. I mean, I can't barely understand. He's barely audible when he talks. I can't understand him. But I will say that Bailey Zappy is your classic, huge production in college, live feet,

decent arm moves around. I don't think there's a massive gap, Mac to Bailey, in terms of. of the ability to complete a football in that offense. I just wonder what it's done. I know it's Max team, but it is kind of interesting that that's the best they've looked in two years. Like, what do you make of that?

Yeah, you know, I think we're a little slippery for Mac here is like the physical gap isn't huge. Max's huge edge is upstairs. Right. That's always been his superpower, his ability to see the field, his ability to maintain accuracy from his first progression to his second progression to his third progression,

all of that stuff with Mack is pretty rare. But if he's going out there and throwing interceptions, turning the ball over like he did the first month of the season, well then, does that edge that he has over Billy Zappy shrink a little bit? Now, I don't think there's an open competition here. I think Max's going to hold on to his job. But if you notice, over the course of the last three days,

Bill Belichick has had two chances to shut down the idea that there would be any competition here. He's been asked directly if when Mac is 100% healthy, is he 100% getting his job back? And Bill is boxed twice. Now, I don't think that's because there's an open competition. What I think that is, I think that's Bill putting pressure on Mac. Yeah. And saying, listen, dude, over the first month of the season, you freelanced a bunch,

you turned the ball over a bunch, and we need you to stick to the script. And oh, by the way, look at this kid who's coming from a spread offense in college, who played at Western Kentucky last year. Look what happens when we tell him what to do and he follows directions. So I think that in a certain way, Bill is going to use this with Mac to put a little heat on Mac. But I don't think Mack's job is legitimately on the line right now. Now, I don't think Zach Taylor, I mean, the Bengals don't fire coach as much and Zach just got to a Super Bowl. But boy, does the internet not like Zach Taylor.

And now Joe, I mean, he gets clobbered for play calling every week. And I look at it and I, what is the feeling around the league with your. sources. Is this a borough caring, an average coaching staff? I mean, what do we make of Zach Taylor? And, you know, I mean, we give McVeigh a lot of credit for golf and Stafford. What do people think of Zach Taylor? I mean, I think Zach's done a really good job. You know, I can remember, you know, sitting with, you know, Sean McVeigh, who was his boss. And, and Sean saying to me, like, he's so impressed with what Zach was able to kind of guide that team through and keep the team engaged through two losing seasons to get to the Super Bowl year.

There's a lot to be said for that. I also think he's got one of the best offensive coordinators in football. It's Bill Callahan's son, Brian Callahan, who's going to be a head coach really soon. He's really well thought of throughout the league. Here's what the NFL thinks about what's going on in Cincinnati. It's almost identical to what happened in Kansas City last year. If you look early in the year for the Chiefs last year, everybody was playing too high safeties against them, it took a little while for Patrick Mahomes to adjust.

That's happening with Joe Burrow and with T. Higgins and with Jamar with that group now. So there's an adjustment that needs to happen there. The other thing that mirrors Kansas City's last year at this point, people forget this now. Everybody was like, Kansas City's offensive line changes didn't work. Like they've made all this change and it looks just as bad as it did in the Super Bowl. And over time, because that position requires communication and cohesion, it got better and better and better. And by the end of the year, with Orlando Brown and Joe Tuny and Creed Humphrey and Trace Smith in there, that actually became a team strength. So that's a same thing Cincinnati's going through right now with new players along their offensive line,

like Lyle Collins, like Alex Kappa, like Ted Karris. And so I think that's a lot of where Cincinnati's at right now. It's a lot like where the Chiefs were in the middle of the year last year, where they're adjusting to a schematic change that defense has made against them and also dealing with a whole lot of new personnel along an offensive line in a position area where communication and cohesion are so key. You know, it's interesting. About two or three months ago, I said I named my top.

10 quarterbacks in the league. I put Lamar at 11. And I think he's done such a great job. I know. And by the way, Albert, my top five is not real fluid. Mahomes, Alan, Rogers, Brady. I'm a Herbert fan. That's the five. After that, I'll wiggle on Russell, Burrow, Kyler. So I had him at 11, but he has handled the Blitz so well this year. You can watch it. He's also become hyper aware when he runs of who's around him. I'm so impressed with his growth that this morning I went through my top 10 and I put like Lamar 7. I think Kyler's been a huge disappointment.

I don't know what to do with Ross. What are you? I mean, I look at Lamar and I can see every year a little bit. I think he is really matured this year. Like popped. Your thoughts. Yeah. I think that, you know, I think we talked about this.

couple weeks ago, me and you, like, his ability to manipulate defenses from the pocket and what he's able to do back there. And I think it was best, you know, best, best illustrated by a play in that Jets game in the opener where he moved to safety with his eyes and no look, the ball to Devin Dubernate for a touchdown. He wasn't doing that stuff before. Right. So you see where he's starting to manipulate defenses from the pocket, which is new. And I'm not saying he can do it at the level that Patrick Mahomes can do it yet, but when you add it to the amount of athletic, a lot of athletic him, he brings the table and what he brings to the table in the running game, it starts to become really hard to defend.

So I think that's one part of it. I also think it's poised, lighten games has been outstanding. Yes. And you look at the last couple of weeks, he beats a Bengals defense that is, I think, really talented, got to a Super Bowl last year against the Patriots, a defense that's very disciplined that plays to assignment. We've seen that over the early parts of this year. He completely breaks them down the stretch of that game.

And so I think it's not just what he's doing, it's who he's doing it against and how he's doing it. His ability to manipulate defenses and then beat really good sound defenses at the wire. That to me is the difference this year and why I think he's very much an MVP candidate. And solidly for me, maybe not you, Colin, but solidly for me within the top five quarterbacks which I'd agree is a pretty tough group to crack. Yeah, yeah, great stuff. Albert Brewer is always Monday morning quarterback. Good seeing you, buddy. All right, thanks, Colin. Yeah. No, I mean, it's, I always feel like my five is set and then I get into a Stafford. Kyler, Burrow, Carr, I've always had car like 10.

I have to now move Russell Wilson out because I'm not going to be stubborn on it. Like what's happened to his deep ball accuracy? Kyler's been terrible in the first half. Now Lamar supersedes him. Lamar is one of these guys who I had huge doubts early, huge. And first year and a half, even when he won the MVP, he felt like he played with a lead. He couldn't play from behind, the opposite of Mahomes. He has made in the last two years like big, big moves.

moves. Can I ask, so your top five, did you say Aaron Rogers is in there? I would say it's Mahomes, Allen, Brady, and then Rogers, and I kind of feel like Herbert, I mean, if you look at Herbert's numbers, he's got his second coach, third coach in three years. We don't know if he's ever had a great coach. His first year had terrible offensive line, and he's putting up massive, he's number two in the NFL and passing again. But are we doing historically or just this? No, I'm just saying everything's fluid, but my front

five is not terribly fluid. After that, like Stafford, I could move from six to a ten. But for this season, Lamar Jackson has been better than Aaron Rogers, period, end of story. No, I don't think there's it. Aaron Rogers has not been good.

And I've been a Rogers defender. I know you guys have a checkered history. But Rogers has not, he's not been sniffed the top five this year. I mean, he's got new receivers, but still, he's not been good. Be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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Colin, Padres, even things up against the Dodgers last night. I know you watched a lot of the game. We had some buddies at the game. Machado went deep early off Kirshaw. It was close, and then the Padres put him away with the eighth inning Dinger from Jake Cronworth. Listen, 1-1 series, game three tomorrow night, 8.30, Eastern, 530 on FS1. It's weird with baseball, but I don't feel like the Dodgers are in trouble yet.

Neither do I. Okay. No, I mean, listen, Machado gives him a lead, and it just felt different. Kirchal was fine. It was three-three for a while. It was fine. We had two really good pitchers. Darvish, who I never, I never considered Darvish a great, big.

game pitcher. Now, baseball people could say I'm wrong, but I thought one of the knocks on him in his last stop or two was that he was good, size and stuff, but he wasn't great in big spots. I thought that was his reputation for years, but I thought he was, you know, it was good last night. Dodgers still favored in the series,

obviously now if they lose game three, then we can talk about some concerns. The pressure is all on the Dodgers because they have literally dominated the Padres like they've dominated almost no other, well, they've dominated the Padres more than any good team in baseball. I mean, this, I think they've won like nine straight series.

I could be 10. Yeah. All right. Next up, NBA. Okay, we got to go back to this Russell Westbrook thing. So you talked about it with Buecker. There's two videos of Russell Westbrook from last night. Now, in the last hour, Colin, people have been watching the show, and a lot of people

are sending videos. This is much ado about nothing. Okay. Jason. This Patrick Beverly moment, if you look at what spectrum, the local cable showed here, Russ was talking to the bench during this moment, so he couldn't hear Anthony Davis and Beverly calling him over, which I call total BS on it. All right, whatever.

So the other one, they say, Russ, historically, during the intros, is not with the team, like you see him run to the corner here. Here's what's different. They haven't even huddled up yet, and he's getting away from the huddle, Colin. Why are people so hard up to defend Russell Westbrook here? Well, because this is a glamour-style league, and he has both. And in the NFL, if you didn't win games, you're a bum. And in baseball, if you don't hit 300, you're a bum.

bum. In basketball, you can be on a losing team, but if you've got some style and some flare, you're beloved. I mean, I could give you 15 players in this league like that. So, I mean, he's got style, he's fashionable, he's got a cool quotient, he's got a lot of historic stats. So I think people will, to the very end, support Westbrook. And there's no reason to argue over it, but, I mean, the reality is he is a very kind of rigid personality, and that's who he is. And you've got to come to terms with that. Doesn't mean he can't be on your team, but I do think he is not aged gracefully. Is that fair? To the same way Iverson did not.

Yeah, I mean, Steph Curry is aged very gracefully. LeBron is aged gracefully. Ray Allen did. Some players do, some don't. He's hyper-athletic when the athleticism ebbs or flows erodes. He's not the same player. Is there a world where Darwin Ham and Polinka can sit down Russell Westbrook and say, listen, Russ, you have had, had, remember in the past, a great career. If you want to continue to be successful, we need you to do different things. Is there a world where you can say that to Russell Westbrook in 2022 without him storming out of the room? I don't know the answer to that.

That's scary, that you can't tell a professional athlete who's making 47 million. Here's what we need you to do for our team to win. Well, there were reports, again, in like the L.A. times that he would get very upset with coaches who called him out during film study. As confident as he seems, he tends to be very sensitive. How many titles does Russell Westbrook have? Well, that's unfair. What do you mean that's unfair? You want to win?

Fall in line. How is that unfair? You can put up empty stats. Go ahead, do it. You're not going to win anything. All right, I'm beating up on him and out. All right, we'll wrap up with week six in the NFL tonight, Colin, Washington and Chicago. I know you're going to be glued to the TV.

It's at Chicago. It is in Chicago. Weather looks like it's going to be fine, maybe a little chilly in the 40s. Both these teams struggling. I will. I just saw a crazy stat. Carson Wentz has more touchdown passes this season than Jalen Hertz and Cooper Rush combined. 10 to 8.

So is Wentz having a terrible season? I mean, you're a big Carson Wentz guy. People have made their mind up on Carson Wentz. The Colts are 32nd in scoring now that he's gone. They were ninth last year with him, and he took all the heat in that organization. The Colts offense is lifeless without him. It is lifeless. It is dead.

and he took all the heat. He had 27 TD 7 picks. If I didn't tell you who it was and I said, yeah, the Colts quarterback 27-7, that's a 4-1 TD to interception ratio. That's like historically unheard of. So Wentz has a little bicep tendon strain, but that's not all. This morning, it came out that Washington quarterback William Jackson, who they spent a lot of money on last year, he wants out.

He said, you guys are playing too much zone, I'm a man corner. He didn't even make the trip to Chicago. There is some major dysfunction, Ron Rivera, the defensive coordinator, They got to clean a lot of stuff up. I mean, they just got to move on. I mean, he's demanding a trade when they're one and four. And it's just like, what's going on? Fox Bed has Washington favored, favored tonight over the bears.

I'll take the bears. Give me a score. 2320. Oh, high scoring. I'm on the over two. I'm going to go Washington 2120 and a nail biter. You know, the worst games are usually good. Listen, Denver Indie overtime game.

It was terrible football. But you were glued to it last week, right? Yeah. Well, defending Russell. Olson. Nobody else in America is. Somebody has to. J. Mack for the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.

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And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth, or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro.

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But I did bet the first half under, a little exotic. I think two experienced quarterbacks, two veteran coaches who know each other, slow feeling out process, low scoring initially. Who do you like? SC or Utah? Everybody in their mom has Utah on this. Everybody. You can't find anybody picking USC. So I'll take the Trojans.

Bama, Tennessee. How's this? I think the line's going to drop because I don't think Bryce Young's going to play. And I think Tennessee wins outright. Hendon Hooker is a guy you want to bet to win the Heisman. this weekend. Because if he wins this game, they're probably going 11 and 1, I don't think they'll beat Georgia, and hooker's going to

have good numbers and a win over Alabama. Who's the Heisman favorite right now, Colin? Like, it's not Stetson Bennett anymore, the kid from Georgia. He's been terrible the last like three games. So then you're like, is there a defensive players, or a receiver? Like, look into the Heisman odds. It's very strange, wide open. Good stuff, Jemak. Big Saturday.

All right, now it's time for if the cleat fits, Odell Beckham Jr. Edition. You give me the team. Does OBJ fit? He is talking about... Oh, nice, nice graphic. Look at this. Look at this chart. I love it. All right. If the cleat fits, Odell Beckham, I can't say this with a straight face. Or the Brown's a good fit for Odell Beckham.

No, not a fit. There are a run heavy team, and he already forced his way out of Cleveland last season. So that doesn't fit. Yeah. We'll go with the Dallas Cowboys. Is there a good fit there? Gallup is back, C.D. Lamb? I say not a. a fit. Again, a run-centric

team that got rid of Amari Cooper, and they see C.D. Lamb is their one, and they don't want to get in the way of C.D. Lamb developing, continuing to develop as a one. I think it would be a distraction, not a fit. Okay. If the cleat fits the Raiders and O'Dell

Beckham. No, not a fit. They just paid Devante. They just paid Hunter Renfro, and they just paid Derek Carr. So I like their offense. I think this is the best one and four team in a long time. That's not need. I don't think he's a fit there. They need a head coach. Are the Rams a good fit for O'Dell Beckham? Yeah, I mean, they have seven touchdowns and 11 games and the Allen Robinson

move hasn't paid off. They're averaging the fewest yards per play. Think about this in the NFL. That's with Stafford and McVeigh. So they need somebody they can get the ball too quickly because the O-line's not holding up and can make plays downfield. So I think this is the first or second best fit. Okay. I largely agree with you. Are the 10 Tennessee Titans a good fit for O'Dell Beckham. I would say not a fit. Mike Vrable's a no-nonsense guy. Run-heavy team.

I don't know if OBJ would declining Ryan Tannehill. I don't think it's where he wants to go. That just doesn't feel right to me. Definitely not. Now, this one's interesting. Players from this team are recruiting him are the Giants a good fit for O'Dell Becker. I thought about this. No.

Daniel Jones has struggled with a deep ball. 72 passer rating on deep balls. forced his way to New York. And again, I think Daniel Jones and Brian Dable, they're working. He's ascending. He's growing. You don't need any distractions. I got to give it to your staff. I had not considered this one, but I like it. The Baltimore Ravens, whose number one receivers hurt Bateman. Devin Duvernay is like number two. Are the Ravens a good fit for O'Dell? I think I was talked into it. Yes. So first of all, they did lose Hollywood Brown. This is production that comes in. Bateman is currently battling an injury. A tight end leads them in receptions.

And again, I think one of the elements about Baltimore is they are fast. And you just go with your strength, add to your strength. I think Baltimore would appreciate him. I think Lamar would appreciate him. And again, you wouldn't need him to dominate the offense. Lamar and Mark Andrews do. But seven targets, five catches, speed on the bubble screens over the middle. I think he works in Baltimore.

I like that one. If the cleat fits, Buffalo Bills and Odell Beckham. This one I don't get. It's not a fit. First of all, they have two star receivers. And they're the number one passing offense in the league. So why do I have to add to that? If you can give me a left guard, but I don't think you need distractions.

This team passing is not a problem. Davis and Stefan Diggs, I'm not taking catches away from those guys or targets. All right, let's go to Andy Reed and the Kansas City Chiefs. If the cleat fits, Odell and Casey. They've made so many moves. why do another one? Because I still I still think

Kansas City is trying to figure out the Schuster Smith piece and Valdea's Scantling piece. I mean they've got these I think they have three rookie receivers they're spreading the ball around like crazy.

I don't know if there's room for another mouth to feed. I just think they're winning as they're trying to kind of figure out their offense and I don't think it's, I really don't think it's clicking yet. I thought it was ugly in the, the first half against the Raiders defense. So I don't think adding another guy that needs seven targets.

Kansas City doesn't. I think it would work, but I don't think it's the right fit. And I think we saved the best for last. If the cleat fits, the Packers and O'Dell Beggis. This one to me is a gimmy. First of all, they do not have the ability now losing Scantling and Devante. They can't throw the ball over the top. They're becoming much easier to defend.

That's why they don't score in the second half. they can out scheme and script you early, but when you have to have a playmaker in the second half, they don't have anybody over the top. And so this is also not one of the better offensive lines for the Packers. Last 10 years, they've had great O lines. It's an OKO line. You cross your fingers, Boctieri stays healthy.

They lost their center a couple years ago, a pro bowler to the chargers. So, you know, this is not, they need speed. They need a playmaker. Also, I think Romeo Dobbs and Odell Beckham. He can teach him a little thing. The veteran comes in. They've got some similarities to their game. I think it's a great fit. Also, Aaron Rogers. Do you know Randall Cobb leaves the team in receiving yards? Whatever it is. Rogers and Tom Brady, they like their veterans. I mean, Brady fought

for A.B. Gronk. He always fights for Julio Jones. Brady trusts guys that know the route tree. He can trust. Aaron's not throw into a guy if he doesn't trust him. Yeah. By the way, those Packers receivers, they're not scaring the Jets this weekend. Sauce Gardner, DJ Reed on the outside? You're feeling good about that. They don't need safety. I mean, I'm feeling irrationally good here. Not as good as I did against the dolphins last week. That was automatic, you know.

Do you think the Jets can win? Yeah. I've done an about face on the Packers, and I concede you were correct on Green Bay to keep them out of the herd hierarchy, top 10. Well, my big right this year was Green Bay. My big wrong was Russell Wilson. Oh, my big right was also the Minnesota Vikings. So far.

So far. Yeah. Over 30. I didn't feel about the Vikings in Miami this weekend. That number crept up to four. four. Well, that's a lot to lay on the road from it. I liked it. Well, Miami now we're in mid-October, so it is not kind of the 98 degree where you take the northern team in September down to Miami and they just evaporate. That's what happens when you take Utah to play the Florida

Gators in late August, early September. We're just out west. We're just not used to that heat. So that part is not a factor. So I think Minnesota wins it and fairly handily. They have a third string quarterback starting. Skyler Thompson. All I keep hearing is he was phenomenal in the preseason. Really going to hang your hat on that. You know, it's interesting you bring that up. That's a good point.

That used to have value. Remember what DAC was good in the preseason? And there was some correlation between that and the regular season. Because starters played. Starters no longer play in the preseason. So how many, I mean, Romeo Dobbs in the preseason was going to be, Dobbs was going to be like Jerry Rice. But nobody's first team corners.

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