The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Ohio State dominated Notre Dame

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Fox Sports college football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show to react to Ohio State dominating their way through the first 12-team playoff and winning the National Championship over Notre DameSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, I have so much respect for what Notre Dame did last night. They just keep fighting and fighting and fighting. And Joel Klad is now joining us, the voice of college football here at Fox Sports. So I know a lot of people look at Ohio State. Now, Ohio State has to rebuild their defense. We'll get to that in a second. They'll be fine, I think.

Let's talk Notre Dame for a second because I said last night, if they won, I think if I was the Chicago Bears, I may have restarted my search. I mean, I do think he's got a Sean McVeigh quality. He's got kind of the confidence, the decency, the power. player connection. So let's just look at Notre Dame football because I think I look at their two deeps. Pretty good next year. Yes. I think Notre Dame is not going anywhere. They're going to have probably the best offensive line in the country next year. Yep. Yep. And both backs back, love and price. So they're going to be able to run the football. The question is going to be

quarterback and what they do, whether they go portal or they go with young guys. And that remains to be seen. That's much easier to solve today than 20 years ago. But Marcus Freeman, more specifically to the way you kind of led with that question. He has elevated Notre Dame football. I want to be very clear. Brian Kelly did an excellent job at Notre Dame. Because what Brian Kelly did was he raised their level from a historically good program to just a really good program

in and of themselves. He was winning 10 games. He was making playoff appearances, went to a national championship game, although you could see the gap between that Bama team and Notre Dame. Now, Brian Kelly moves on and Marcus Freeman gets the job. Marcus Freeman has risen the level of Notre Dame from a very good program to an elite level program. They were in a one possession game in the fourth quarter of a national championship.

That's as close as you get. You watch their speed. Yes. It's there. They are elite speed now. And I will say in the second half, you know, they played Ohio State about as well as anybody in the playoff. I mean, Ohio State was running roughshot over Tennessee and Oregon. And yeah, Texas played them well.

was a tough game, but that second half, Marcus Freeman had had a level of grit and toughness that can only be forged through a great culture. And he's building a great culture at Notre Dame. I will say this. After last night, I think Marcus Freeman, if he decides to stay there, and obviously he's going to have NFL suitors, whether it's now or even in the subsequent years, if Marcus Freeman stays at Notre Dame for any length of time, I think he wins a national championship at Notre Dame. I totally agree. I think that they really agree. I think also a pressed elite program. They don't want to go to the beach. Big Ten, which is significantly better than the ACC.

Yeah. So there's some wins on that program. I mean, there's some baked-in Ws. Like the Big Ten, nobody's going undefeated. I mean, it's just too tough. Notre Dame's schedule this last year was just not that difficult. That's what made the Northern Illinois loss so shocking. It's because after they beat Texas A&M, it's like, there's not another loss on the schedule.

And even with the, I don't think that the ACC is a great conference right now. of their depth. And so Notre Dame's in a really good position, and they will be right back in the thick of things next year. I'd be shocked if they're not. I think they're in the best position in college football, is that they don't have to play in the Big Ten or the SEC. They get to play in a week conference, but because they have a national brand, they can recruit at an elite level. I think Notre Dame is positioned, even better than Ohio State, because every other year you've got to go to Ann Arbor. And you're going to have to go to Otson, and you'll go to a Seattle.

And it's just it. So let's pivot to Ohio State. The offense next year, and the portal makes it much easier. Ohio State's going to find a quarterback. They've got so many damn good receivers. Well, and I think the quarterbacks are largely there. I just don't, not to interrupt. It's Carr, right?

Well, no, that's Notre Dame. That's Notre Dame. CJ Carr is going to be a freshman for Notre Dame. For Ohio State right now, you've got Julian Sane who transferred from Alabama last year at this time after Nick Sabin retired. He's been in the program. And then he'll be in a competition. with a five-star recruit who's now on campus

and will be practicing this spring named Tevi and St. Clair. So they're likely going to go with a young player. But here's the thing is like, if we want to give the benefit of the doubt to programs like Georgia for the way that they recruit, and rightly so because of the rosters that they build, even when they lose great players, you understand that the players behind them

are also great players. You made a point in the last segment, and I will 100% agree with this. The best offensive player in college football next year, is Jeremiah Smith. The best defensive player in college football next year is Caleb Downs. Well, that's a heck of a start of a foundation if you're going to try to

rebuild, if you will. They also have a young running back. Two guys are leaving to the pros. They have a good running back in the fold. Their O line will be better next year because they had so many injuries this year. Yeah, the injury issue was huge. So the guys that started against Notre Dame, that interior

will be back. So like, for instance, this will give you an example of kind of their line of scrimmage. Michigan against Alabama in the Rose Bowl technically didn't have their starters playing defensive line on fourth down. Those were all technically reserves, right? This is Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Derek Moore, Josiah Stewart. Well, they came back and they were, quote, new starters this year on the defensive line, but it's not like they're not new starters. So something similar could be said about this Ohio State offensive line. These guys that just

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Now, some will push back and saying I'm being la provocateur. I do not see that. I have made the argument that the key number, in college football is sixty six thousand because that's how many people go to Ohio state and that big ten students flee the midwest for jobs on the coast southern kids the weather's good

economy in the south been growing for a long time they graduate s cc schools and they stay in the south and there's nothing wrong with that but these big ten kids from monster universities thirteen of the twenty three biggest universities in america are big ten sixty six thousand fifty eight thousand seven they go out with those big 10 degrees, they go to New York and L.A. and D.C. and Boston and L.A. and San Francisco and make big money. And they get right back to their school.

And it's the collective in the NIL. I mean, Bama came out, their AD. And Bama's AD said, can you guys give 50 bucks? Like, we're running out of cash. Nick Saban saw that three years ago when he complained about Texas coming into the conference. Nick saw it three years ago. Financially, it's a money game now. It is.

I think Penn State, those graduates are all over Philadelphia and New York. So, yes, yes. I mean, listen, you are right in a certain respect. I don't think it gives them like some substantial margin or benefit over other programs. Programs in the South can raise a lot of money. No, I'm not saying that. But when Bama comes out and when Brian Kelly and LSU. I think that's a specific Alabama issue.

I don't think Georgia has that issue or Texas has that issue or A&M or TACA. Tennessee. LSU does. Brian Kelly said I'll give you a million dollars in my salary. Ryan Day didn't have to do that. Well, I mean, listen, Ryan Day had to give up play calling duties and go in fundraise last December in order to keep his roster intact. So, listen, again, I don't think you're wrong.

It's the biggest, largest living alumni base in college sports is the Big Ten alumni base. And so that is a big deal in this era where fans can have more of an immediate impact through their donations to NIL. Now, the reason I'm pausing is because the structure of college football moving forward will change and is changing and needs to change, all of those things. In April, we're largely going to have this settlement come out through the house settlement, which is going to allow for revenue sharing. Well, that's going to put even more programs at a higher level with funds that they have because they can use program funds for their players. So every team in the SEC and the Big Ten is going to have roughly $18.5 million just to spend on players as essentially salary.

Okay, so that's going to continue to equalize out college football. Let me just give you an example. I don't think any conference is just going to dominate from here moving forward. No, I don't either, but I think the Big Ten moved ahead of the SEC. Well, certainly, because they have the last two champions, right? So they have the last two champions and you see the level of play at the top end. And next year, the Big Ten is probably going to be even strong. stronger than it was this year. Oh, I think there's no question. So, so yes, the, the Big Ten is

experiencing a really solid performance in terms of on the field performance and strength, in particular at the, at the top end. However, when I look at college football, like I did a way too early top 10 for for next year. And, and that episode comes out on my show on Thursday. And doing the exercise, I was like, dang, three years ago, Colin, I could, I could immediately write four teams at the top and then you start scratching your head. you're like, well, who's, I don't know, who's actually good, who's not very good? The exercise was, here's the top four, and then there's everybody else. And there was quite a gap.

It's not like that. It's not like that anymore. You're going to go into next season. I have an argument, like I'm going to put Penn State, spoiler alert, number one in the country. They're certainly top three, okay? And largely because they're going to follow a very specific blueprint that has worked for Michigan and Ohio State in the last two years. And I can get into that, you know, later. But you could talk me into them being sixth.

I put Clemson at seven. You could talk me into them being 18. I'm telling you, from 1 to 18 in college football next year, it's kind of like, you can talk me into or out of any one of those teams. What do you do with Michigan? What do you do with Alabama? What do you do with South Carolina and Lenore Sellers? What do you do with Florida?

What do you do with LSU and Nussmeyer coming back? What do you do with Ohio State trying to replace their defense? What do you do with Georgia trying to replace their defense? replace their quarterback. What do you do with Oregon? What do you do with Oregon, right? So college football is in such an amazing place right now, and I think that we're just going to continue to get kind of equalized out, driving more

parity moving forward. Okay, so I got to get to the bottom of this. Uh-oh. So Dion Sanders, Cowboys Coach, that thing disappeared. I told you that. I told you he's not going to Dallas. Well, but with all due respect. Did I not? You did, but the playmaker Michael Irvin said he was. You said he wasn't. I'm caught between two guys I like. So was it, did Colorado step up and pay him more? Was he trying to get more money

from the buffs? I don't want to like step on everything because I know it's not nothing is finalized. Listen, is he signing his extension? I don't know that. He doesn't need to. He could leave his contract as is. I know that there's been extension conversations. Okay. I know Colorado has come significantly up. I think he would like them to come up in several areas, not just his salary, but possibly assistant pool, facility stuff, commitment to NIL outside of revenue sharing.

So there's there's talk. And like any negotiation, whether he was going to go to Dallas or not go to Dallas or stay at Colorado or not stay at Colorado, when you're in a position like that, he's doing and his management team is doing what he should, which is try to generate as much level leverage as possible. Having conversations with Jerry Jones is leverage. Yeah. You know, and I think from Jerry's perspective, it might be the same thing. But I will just continue to say, and I'm going to be very consistent about this, he's a great fit at Colorado because Colorado has given him the keys to the castle.

Yeah. He has turned Colorado into prime. They are the prime buffaloes. They said, hey, man, our traditions, yours. Do whatever you want with our program, because we need you. And because of that, he's become a great fit there. And they've really embraced him. Can't do that at the NFL level. Just based on the structure of the NFL and some of the ownership, hierarchy issues that you get with management. So I think he's in a good spot. I hope he stays, and I believe that he will. Okay, I have Ohio State number one next year, Texas two, Penn State three, and then the rest of the Big Ten after that. Hey, listen, all I'm saying is, you know, people, this is... Well, you can't stockpile talent anymore. No, you do... So in the SEC, Alabama and

Georgia used to have the best starting unit, and then their backups could probably also beat your starting unit. You know, like, they were too deep with a team that could win a national championship, win a conference title anywhere else. Let me throw this out. You can't do that anymore. In my lifetime, Jeremiah Smith is the most NFL capable, NFL-ready freshman I've ever seen. Oh, okay, good.

I like this topic. That's good. I'm dead serious. I went and looked. There's only one other for me, but continue. Adrian Peterson? That's exactly right. Okay.

So I went this morning. I get up early in the morning. You know me. Hard work. Grinding. Yeah. Sit-ups at like 3.40. And when I was doing that, I looked at the Minnesota Vikings and the Cincinnati Bengals receiving cores.

And I'm like, no, he makes those two. He makes, he's 19. He makes every NFL roster. And outside of Minnesota and Cincinnati, I'd argue, he starts forever. Everybody. He's got to play two more years of college football, which means in four years, Jeremiah Smith is the best receiver in football. He's the number one on any team in the NFL. I believe he has a chance to be an all-time great. He's got a chance to be one of the greatest wide receivers that we've ever seen. His combination of size, speed, physicality, no body fat,

body control, ability to catch the ball, his route running ability, which you saw on display last night. like he's he's the best freshman I've ever seen and so quick story okay so in 2004 I was still playing and we've Colorado I'm the quarterback of Colorado and we go to play against Oklahoma a lifetime ago I'm about to be 43 so I'm a man I sounded like Mike Gundy I almost went Mike Gundy there but I did okay so we go to play the big 12 championship game against Oklahoma they're number one in the BCS at the time this is Jason White's Heisman year, I believe, or he was coming off of that. Yeah, I remember that year. They had just an excellent team, excellent team.

Orlando Brown is their tackle. Oh, yeah. And a freshman running back named Adrian Peterson. We played at Arrowhead Stadium. It's December 3rd, whatever it is. And I went out for, you know, pregame warmups, and I look over, and like, they're an impressive team. They're number one in the country.

Dan Cody is over there. Like, they've got dudes, right? And Adrian Peterson, I was like, oh, my God. gosh, he's, like, he's going to kill us. What are we going to do? I remember specifically in that game, we had a smaller corner. He was probably about, I don't know, 5, 9, 185 pounds, fast, quick, you know, all this thing. He's a corner.

And Adrian Peterson gets this gallop going. You remember the angry gallop that he starts running and he kind of bounces this ball outside in our corner. Jarrett Burrell was his name, goes up to make the hit. And I was like, cringing before it happened. I was like, no, don't do it, Jared. Like, this is going to be so bad. And he looked like the cartoon chicken, what gets hit and the feathers go everywhere.

And I'm just like, Adrian Peterson was incredible. And so that was the best football player I'd ever seen as a true freshman in my life. And then I walked out in spring football last year, and I went to see an Ohio State practice. And I said, oh my gosh. That kid is incredible. And every one of those players, including Ameca Abuka, looked at me and I said, how good is he? And he says, he's the best

we've had. That's Ohio State saying that. Players at Ohio State saying that who had just seen Marvin Harrison Jr., helped me Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Jameson Williams, who had to transfer in order to be an

All-American, all first-round-wide receivers, and every one of them, they were just like, oh, yeah, he's the best. he is the best wide receiver I've ever seen at his age, period. He would be a top three pick in the draft now? No, I had a GM tell me a week ago if Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Smith were available.

This is a weak graph. He's like, I'm not so sure they're not one and two. He goes, the value of Travis Hunter is going to be interesting because he can play both ways. I don't think Travis Hunter is talented as Caleb Downs. I really don't. Yeah, but you have to understand, like, that whole receiver corner nonsense.

Yeah, exactly. Well, nonsense. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, I just impact greatly the game on both sides of the football. That's nonsense. Hey, let me host the show and direct it. Pick a lane. Pick a lane.

I'm just going to get back to the fact that I think Smith could be an all-time great, all-time great wide receiver. I truly believe he will be a 10-time all-pro whenever. And I know that I don't want to put the cart before the horse. I don't want to put too much pressure on this guy. Okay, so we agree with Jeremiah Smith and Adrian Peterson. Give me the, and threes. So we both agree that I would have agreed.

Adrian Peterson and Jeremiah Smith looked different. Has there been another player in, because I... In football? Yeah. Oh, man. Did you ever... There have been true freshmen that have been great players, but not that looks like that.

Like Maurice Colerette was a great true freshman player, right? He was terrific. Led them to a national championship, but he didn't look like he could go dominate the NFL that year. He was just a great college player that year. Do you understand the difference? I'll tell you, Guy. Peterson and Smith looked like they could go dominate the NFL now.

Like put him in the Super Bowl. I will say this. Kirby Smart has told people, Brock Bowers is the most talented player he's ever had. Let me say something. He was at Napa High School, Wine Country. How tough can you be from Wine Country? That's what I thought.

So I looked at his high school video and I'm like, He's probably a terrible league. And then I watched him as a freshman at Georgia. And I'm like, he was good, man. I'm like, he's 18. The Raiders split him out wide. And he's beating corners up the field. Yeah, and yet still, like, as a true freshman,

Smith is the best player on the field. I know. Period. I know. It's crazy. It's wild. It blows my mind. It really does.

I think Peterson's the only other 18-year-old that I've ever seen that it's going to be like, oh, you can dominate the professional ranks right now. It was LeBron James. That's the category that those guys kind of fall into. That's pretty good. All right. I don't mean to rub it into the SEC. That's not who I am.

This is so revisionist. I have sat on this couch for many years. And I'm just going to tell you American people, I have heard this whole idea that, like, oh, the northern schools, it snows, it's cold. No one's ever going to go there again. It's over. Northern schools are never going to win again in their lifetime. You said that about Notre Dame.

You said that about Michigan. You said that about Ohio State. Everything's changed now, apparently. I was very immature back then. You've grown up. You've grown up a lot. All right, buddy. It's great to see you as well.

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Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the third line news. We've got three good stories. The final one is absolutely bonkers. But we'll start with Lamar Jackson. Came up just short of his first Super Bowl appearance yet again.

The two-time MVP is now three and five in the playoffs in his career. Fullback Patrick Ricard believes that it's just a matter of time until Omar wins it all. It's inevitable. He's going to win a Super Bowl and I want to be a part of it and it just sucks as it happened yet, you know, but you know, I feel, I personally feel bad for him because he deserves it just because of how great of a player he is. Like he deserves to be considered one of the best quarterbacks.

He already is, but I know everyone considers championships as the standard and, you know, he'll He'll get it one day. Yeah, he'll get there. James Hardin will get to. I'm sorry, Lamar Jackson. You think he's James Harden? Dominant regular season player and the postseason success just isn't there. One is really the soul of a team.

Hardin was hardened. He was the Houston Rockets when they went toe to toe with Curry and Durant. And couldn't get along with anybody. Chris Paul, Westbrook. Okay, that's fair. Personality-wise. Lamar gets along with everybody. We got some numbers here.

Lamar, highest winning percentage by a quarterback without a Super Bowl. appearance. Josh Allen is two. I don't even... Bill Nelson. I don't see a railing on Pat Hayden. Pat, isn't he an announcer or was an announcer? Who is USCAD?

He was a good player. Yeah. Lamar has double the wins he does, but nevertheless. You know, Mark Sanchez has four playoff wins, right? Lamar has three. All right, put that out there. Next up, Colin. Mike McCarthy.

He was a front owner for the Bears job. He liked it. He and Dion are disappearing. What's happening? Very interesting. Now, McCarthy, since he didn't get the bears, it went to Ben Johnson, it's like, ooh, the saints are interested. Is that a good job for McCarthy? You know, the weather in New Orleans currently is really bad. There's snow. Houston. It's showing that region's getting buried right now. So we don't even know McCarthy will be able to interview live there.

Is this even a good landing spot? And I got to ask, what about the Jaguars? I don't think it's a good spot. Trevor Lawrence? Trent Balke's situation is a stayaway situation. He ran Harbaugh to San Francisco. There's no way. Balkey deserves credit. He's being able to align himself with owners.

Oh, okay. But he's done a good job. He's political or whatever it is. He's done a great job with that. But I'm staying away from that franchise. Do you think the Saints job is good? Remember Derek Carr started the off season? I get the Benson family.

I get Mickey Loomis operas. I think their scouting department's been pretty good through the years. I think New Orleans, and that division is always winnable. I mean, who's, I mean, you start looking at. Who's your quarterback next year? Is it car? Because Carr said he's not doing a restructure. He's not giving a dime back.

All right. Well, I'll have to move off there at Carr. Okay. I'll take the ownership and the stability of the Saints. That's a multi-year rebuild in New Orleans. Nass! Tampa is miles ahead of them. If you hit on a quarterback, you're fine.

If, if I, if I, win the lottery. Well, where are the Saints drafting right now? Not high enough. I mean, maybe they go for Will Howard in the second round, or maybe Will Howard's not going

in the second round. Kyle McCord from Syracuse is going in the second. There's your answer. Kyle McCord, everybody. He's got to save the New Orleans Saints. I wouldn't get too snarky. Saints are drafting ninth.

Shadour Sanders probably going to go fifth or sixth. Okay, Cam Ward going one. It'll be Milrow or Kyle, what's his face? What's his name? Kyle what's his face? I'm sorry.

Kyle McCord. Put some respect on that name. He led the country in passing. He's going to go second round, Syracuse quarterback, and somebody's going to get real lucky with Kyle McCord. Okay. Let's move on to the final start column. This is just emerging here.

Lamello Ball is apparently a trade target of the Lakers. Now, this has come out on Bleacher Report. I tried to dig in during the commercial to the credibility of the reporter. because this sounds crazy. Okay, the Lakers obviously need another star. They're trying to prepare for the future without LeBron. And they're talking about Lamello Ball from the Hornets. Lamello Ball is an all-star caliber player.

He's very good. When he's available. And they're talking about getting from the Lakers. Dalton Connect, Rue Hachimura, Jared Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent, and first round picks for lamello ball. Why on earth would the Hornets do that? No, I would take that if I was the Lakers in one minute. Of course you would, but there's no way they're giving a Lamello ball a franchise player.

Are those expiring contracts? Not Dalton Connect. He's on the rookie deal. I would have to look into, I would. I would take Dalton Connect as a shooter, but is Ruey and Vanderbilt? Are they expiring? That's the attraction. Yeah, well, and the multiple first round picks is nice, but if the Lakers have LeBron, A.D. and Lamello and Austin Reeves, you're not drafting that high. I think this is nonsense, but what's interesting is just floated by the Lamello camera? Yep, because maybe he's sick of the losing and he's like, hey, get me out of him.

He doesn't want to live in Carolina. He probably wants to live in L.A. His brother's now a big burgeoning rap star, apparently. He's a good player. Lamello Ball's very, very good. Yeah, he's probably a top 20 player in the league. Yeah. He's bank at the box office.

People love him. The kids love him. No, he's a good player. The idea that Dalton. By the way, your brand is dead if you're playing for them. Lakers, you have a brand. I think a lot with Lovar, Lamello, Lonzo Ball, the Lakers will elevate your brand.

By the way, we say this all the time. Athletes love L.A. You know, Kauai Leonard, Paul George, Matt Stafford, you know, mokey bets. Athletes love California. Yes, you pay taxes, but you are center, front and center. It's the entertainment capital. Dodgers lineup looks like an all-star. Yeah, that Lamello's thing's interesting.

I would trade eight guys for him. You've got to clean that Laker roster out anyway. I mean, this, I love Dalton Connect. I like really, this is a poo-poo platter. From the mellow ball. There's just no shot in this happening. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. I was just thinking to this. So Mike McCarthy, I'm going to throw this out there. This is very succession sounding. So Mike McCarthy spurns the Cowboys. How come Mike McCarthy's name is now?

there anymore and he's not getting the jobs. Did Jerry make a few calls? I'm just throwing it out there. Like Mike McCarthy misses an owner's league. Mike McCarthy is like the top candidate for like two jobs and now it's going to go to Pete Carroll, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, McCarthy's not up for any

of the jobs suddenly. Not weird? I'm not insinuating anything. I'm just saying. I'm just looking out for you, bud. Just be careful. No, I'm just saying people make calls. It's weird. He was like He was the one or two candidate for four jobs. You know who screwed it up was Jaden Daniels?

Jayden Daniels beating Detroit and messed up everything for Mike McCarthy. Why? Well, Ben Johnson became available. And the Bears said, we'll take you. Thank you very much. We got a quarterback. We got, you know, in the division, you're going to have a chance. So you think Jaden Daniels beating Detroit and those two guys fly out the door.

Yeah, now Aaron Glenn is talking about the Jets. Well, wasn't that McCarthy like a hot candidate a week ago? Yeah, I guess. That's a tough spot for McCart. I would take Jacksonville over New Orleans in a heartbeat. I know you don't like bulky and nobody really does, except the owner. I'm just saying the stories I read lead me to believe that you, the Niners situation with bulky and Harbaugh was ugly.

Very. It was also like 10 years ago. We want to give guys second chances, right? All right. Third chances. Mike McCarthy just disappeared into the ether. It is kind of weird. What happened to him?

So Diana Rusini says the Saints are the only landing spot. for McCarthy. He was the number two candidate in the... He was the number once Rabel went to the Patriots, Mike was the number one candidate with Ben Johnson. And like all the jobs now, he's not even mentioned. Hey, how come you're not wearing your tinfoil hat right now during the... It's not a tin foil

hat. I'm just suggesting to you. Now, maybe, and I don't think this is bad, maybe he pulled himself out. That's possible. Mike could have said, this stuff's a bit of a mess. Yeah. Chicago's too cold. I want to go down in New Orleans. New Orleans isn't a great job right now, but it's not

terrible. I mean, you do get stability upstairs. So these are the current job openings. Would you take the Raiders job? I think the Jets job, because the roster, I think the Jets roster is good. Better job. Raiders or Saints?

Why? Because I get stable ownership. How about getting good players? Because I don't get play in a division with Sean Peyton, Jim Harbaugh, and Andy Reed. Ben Johnson's not afraid to go to Chicago in a division with Kevin O'Connell, Dan Campbell, and LaFleur?

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