The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Patriots documentary

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

Plus, 3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman joins the show in studio to give his perspective on the upcoming documentary detailing the Patriots dynastySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...mation.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes,
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Starting point is 00:01:42 Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to 3 Eastern 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. We're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome back. Julian Edelman, who's got a very popular podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:10 games with names. He's trying to get me on it, and I've blown him off twice. I'm really a jerk. Travis Kelsey talked about it at the podium. I mean, we can't get you on. What's going on? I'm trying to get on.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Super Bowl weeks a lot. I get it. I get it. I get it. I'm just by the way. So this is really interesting because if you, Every dynasty has something. And the Patriots dynasty was always considered like the smartest, the most efficient.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You knew all the tricks. You knew all the rules. So what do you make on the overtime rule thing? How much should players know? How much shouldn't they know? San Francisco guys are like, we didn't have a clue. Did that bother you? I'm a big Kyle Shanahan guy, but I did think that was a party foul going into the Super Bowl where you're smart.
Starting point is 00:02:56 there should at least be a nucleus of guys that know the situation that you're going to get into if it were to go down to that. I remember in New England, we would go over the free kick every Friday at Friday, fast Friday practice. The free kick is where you fair catch a punt and you get to line up to have a free kick before half. Hadn't been used since 1986, but we were prepared just in case. it were to ever happen. And, you know, a lot of people say, well, you know, a lot of these guys have a lot of information in their head. It's a big week.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You don't want to feel. That was kind of my take. Yeah, but like when you subconsciously know what's going on in the game, that it allows you to instinctively play at a different level. That's something Belichick would always say. You know, you go over the situations so it's in your subconscious, so you can instinctively make plays on the football field for the right situation. So, you know, I don't think it's terrible that not, like, everyone wouldn't know, but there had to be a collective group of captains, the quarterback, Oshchek, these guys, I mean, there's got to be someone that knows what's going on if we get to this situation.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The bumping Andy Reid. Now, I don't think anybody's bumping Belichick. And I will say Travis Kelsey's really emotional. Yeah. What did you make of that? You know, PSA for all you young kids, it's not all right. But on the other side, if you're Travis Kelsey and you've performed the way he's performed in the most important games, you get to do stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And with the relationship that they've developed over the last 12 years, I mean, we've kind of always knew that they were like that. And I didn't think it was great, but I can understand coming from, you know, very emotional game from an emotional player who's probably the heartbeat of their team. Travis Kelsey's the heartbeat of that team when it comes to being that emotional figure. You see him firing guys up on the sideline all the time. So I didn't like seeing it, but I can understand. I mean, I was there when Tyquan Underwood, you know, ran a wrong route, the back end zone,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and Billy O'Brien and Tom Brady were MFing each other right on the sideline. Like, this stuff happens in the war of the game. game, you know, and I'm not trying to make it lightly for, you know, battle people, but like, when you're in this environment, totally get it. When you're in that environment, there's a lot of things said that you have to just rub, you know, let it go over your head. There's a lot of things that you do because you have guys literally doing everything that they can, physically, emotionally, mentally to go out to play their absolute best. And, you know, I've seen it time and a time and in time again, these things happen.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So, 10-part documentary, Apple Plus. It's called The Dynasty. I think it's the Jeff Benedict book, which is a fantastic book. They were on Wall Street the other day, the opening bell. So it's getting a lot of play. So there have been teasers for it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Apparently Brady is as blunt as he's ever been. Craft is blunt. Rob Grunkowski sat in the parking lot in his car and was afraid to go to practice, like we didn't want to do it. So you were, interviewed. How long? Probably like an hour
Starting point is 00:06:28 and a half. I think I was interviewed for an hour. I honestly don't remember what I said. So I want my popcorn to get ready for tomorrow to watch this thing because I'm interested to see if the teaser of what we've all saw, which is making everyone all
Starting point is 00:06:44 and no one's got a filter on, no one's got the, let's see what it really looks like. I want to see what it really looks like. Who's talking what? And we also got to remember someone is producing this thing from one side of the other. So we don't know if it's the actual truth. Well, we feel it is Jeff Benedict's book, and that's got multiple quotes.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So it's like the Michael thing. If Tom's talking, it's got to be some truth. Yeah, definitely. Let me ask you this. You're a coach's son. And you came into the league as a grinder. So you probably could take more verbal sparring or lashing out from a coach. and you're good with it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I do think it's Brady, I always felt as Brady, the dynasty started, it was Bills. And then in those middle years with Randy Moss numbers, then it was Tom's. At the end, it was really Tom's,
Starting point is 00:07:40 where he was clearly more valuable. Is it fair to say, as you joined it, it was pivoting when you first got there? Did you feel like? It was Tom's or Bills was the soul
Starting point is 00:07:53 of the culture. I always felt it was Tom collectively as a whole, I mean Bill as a whole and Tom was kind of like the offensive voice. That's what I felt when I got there. You know, it was pretty known that everyone was on the table to get yelled at from the jump right when I got there.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It didn't matter who you were, didn't matter what you've done, it didn't matter how much you were making. If you did something wrong, it was going to be talked about in front of the whole team because that was the whole thing. We are all accountable for what we don't do right. So I always saw it as it was Bill's team. And, you know, Tommy was like the flag carrier of that team. Now, was he at times, Wes Walker said it felt at times a bit abusive.
Starting point is 00:08:54 again, you and West, you know, you replaced West essentially, so you were together briefly. But did you ever feel it went over a line? Like, Bill, give him a break. Yeah, of course. I mean, Tom Brady was in his 15th year, had three Super Bowls, four Super Bowls, countless Super Bowls. And, you know, he would get on him, but, you know, like, he didn't change. That's what he was doing every year. You know, I think looking back on it, Bill could have probably handed it a little differently.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But I think Bill thought he was doing the right thing. And also, you know, like, everyone on that team knew Tom Brady played better, pissed off. So I don't know if it was some Master Jedi mind tricks that Bill's doing either. Like, I honestly don't because, you know, when did you learn that? Huh? When did you learn that? learn. Tom was better pissed? I learned that probably in like 14
Starting point is 00:10:04 when something didn't go right in that playoff run and he started getting on the guys. I think it was in that Baltimore game. We were down 14 points for the first time and you know he Tom was getting pretty heated on the sideline and yelling at us and all of a certain, you know, he started bawling out. We started bawling out. It was just kind of something that you knew. Tom would fabricate things in his own mind to make himself mad or to come up with a
Starting point is 00:10:35 motivation. Right. Jordan did that, yeah. You know what I mean? And so, like, I'm not 100% sure if Bill didn't understand that also. Because, you know, when Cam came in and he was my coach, or he was coaching Cam the next year, you know, he handled Cam differently because maybe that's what he felt Cam needed. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You know what I mean? So a lot of people have all this, oh, Bill's can't, he's not a collaborative guy, he's not this guy, he's not that guy. I think he's just, he's pulling strings and playing chess a lot more than people think. Well, Parcells was the great psychologist. Belichick was around him forever. Forever. It's not hard to figure out that Bill watched some. I mean, Parcells is almost a comedian.
Starting point is 00:11:20 on the sideline all over his coaches. Yeah. And Bill's a little different. He's more of a computer out there, you know, during game day, because he would never, he would never go and coach you hard necessarily on a game day because he wanted you to go out and play the game. He'd coach you hard after the game when the game was over
Starting point is 00:11:43 because he knew that even if we messed up that one specific play, there's still two quarters of football left. can't just get on someone and have them tail. That's right. So, you know, there's a lot of things behind the scenes that a lot of people don't know about. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:12:30 Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
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Starting point is 00:14:11 to believe if you watch the 70 Steelers or the Joe Montana Niners or the Patriots. Roger Craig. If he didn't fumble, if he didn't fumble, they would have three peted. That's right. It's hard to just repeat. Jimmy Johnson, I asked him about earlier. He said it does become a little, the disease of me.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The secretary wants a raise. The slot corner wants a raise. Was it that in New England, or was it salary cap? Guy leaves, free agent. Why is three so hard? Honestly, when we went 14, we started out 15, I think. I think 9 and 0, 10 and 0. Week 8, Nate Soldier blew out of peck, left tackle.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Week 10, Dionne Lewis, Tours, ACL. Like, there's a lot of things that have to happen. Your team has to be able to stick together. And then, of course, you get a little bit of the complacencies going with certain guys. It was always crazy to me that some of my best teams were the teams we didn't win the Super Bowl on. It was just we weren't healthy enough. there was a crazy distraction that came off. We didn't play our best football to the right time of the year.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And those are all variables that can happen. That's why it is so dang impressive what the Kansas City Chiefs did this year. And in these last four years, honestly, to be able to change teams and change the identity of their team, go from an explosive offense to last year kind of figuring out what's going on off. and then this year, you know, having an insane defense and an offense that made plays when they had to make plays, understanding what you are, understanding your identity, and that's why they've become such a championship team now. They understand what they have to do to win, not necessarily the sexy, let's go out and do this, let's go out and do that. You know, when it came to nut cutting time, what was Patrick Mahomes?
Starting point is 00:16:13 He was eight for eight. Okay, your best player When you needed a big play On third down in the red area Where was Chris Jones Right down Brock Purdy's throat? Yeah You know, that's championship formula
Starting point is 00:16:27 Your best player's making the big time plays When the team needs it When a season's over I think Sometimes fans don't quite give players credit It's exhausting emotionally I mean So I used to love baseball practice
Starting point is 00:16:44 You get in the cage, infield, loved it. Show off. Oh, it's the best. Basketball practice, good sweat. Got to play some defense, good sweat. Football practice is hard. Hard. Hard. It's like hockey, the gear, the sweat.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You're getting banged around. And it's the emotion of the hard. But you get coached harder in football than basketball, which is sort of star-driven. When the season was over, would you just, and you're a workout guy, you still ripped. But when the season was over, would you be like, I need two. 12 days in the Caribbean. I'm going to go disappear. No, but around my group of friends, they'd always give this term where I used to have the Super Bowl Saturdays.
Starting point is 00:17:26 When I'd win the Super Bowl, I'd become, you know, you get kind of, you have the emotions of doing all, you know, the going to the Disney world, doing the parade, doing everything. But then reality kicks in where now it's going to be 10 times harder. You've got to reinvent yourself. you made the mistake when your younger football player of taking three weeks off and then hating those two weeks it took back to get back in shape so you never did that anymore
Starting point is 00:17:53 so like you always kind of stayed on the grind and it is it is very tough emotionally and mentally you know for a professional athlete you just you're on cloud nine and then all of a sudden you got to flip the switch and you got to get back into the routine so it's definitely a weird time especially for these, you know, for the chiefs, they just, they've gone back to back. How are they, you know, what are they going to do to find that motivation?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Oh, we can, we can have that party for a couple more days. We've done that, you know, there's a whole lot of things that come into play when, when you win a Super Bowl. And it's very tough. Didn't you go down to Costa Rica with Tom and play? No, we went to, we went to Bakers. We'd go to Baker's Bay. What was that? That's over in the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And so he, would he, I mean, how do you initiate? Tom says, hey, I'm, taking the Gulfstream out. You want to go? Yeah. We would go there. A lot of times we go to Montana for the fourth. Oh, yeah, that's nice. You know, get that $9,800, 9,800 high altitude training. Oh, and he'd make you work out. Yeah, oh, fully. You don't get the goal stream just to hang out. No. No, absolutely not. We've smoothies, avocado ice cream Alex and a private field. I mean, anytime we went anywhere, we'd have some private cut field. And he'd go, hey, babe, how's it look? I'm like, Tom.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Tom, I'm a professional receiver. This thing's uneven as hell. I'm going to roll an ankle. He's, babe, I think it's going to be perfect. He just sees any kind of clip of grass. He thought it was perfectly fine for us to go run 60 routes. But, you know, that's what you do when you're a guy like Tom Brady, and that's what I'm sure Patrick Mahomes is going to start doing.
Starting point is 00:19:33 When you watch this game, do you miss that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you miss that fourth quarter. You know, right when, especially with Kansas City, when they finally took the lead, and it was kind of like the Tiger effect. You know, Tiger back nine at the Masters. Here he comes. Here he comes.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, we used to have. Calories all fired up. And it wasn't necessarily the Chiefs making the crazy plays. They just weren't making the mistakes. And you let the opponent make the mistakes. You let the opponent have a five-yard penalty on second and ten, which is a drive-killer, and then all of a sudden it's third and 15, and you got Spagnola doing what he does on third down.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You let the other team have a holding penalty and make it second-and-twenty and another drive-killer. That's the kind of stuff that happens when you have that effect that the Kansas City Chiefs have. I miss that. I miss the nitty-gritty time when, you know, like a lot of that reminded me of when we were playing against Atlanta. You know, we were, we felt like we were the better team.
Starting point is 00:20:53 We just weren't executing at certain times. Bad first half. Bad first half. And then all of a sudden it came on and it was like, you could sense it. You knew it. You knew it. Yeah. Well, you kind of did make a catch there.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So did Danny Amandola. So did Chris Hogan. So to Malcolm Mitchell. I mean, you know, when you're, I mean, this year, you look at scantling, you look at MVS. MVS. A lot of these guys, we all talked about it. And all these shows, they're nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:21:25 McCall Hardman, yeah. And what did Patrick Mahomes do? He kept on, I guarantee, loving them up at practice, saying, hey, we need a big play from you one time here, one time there. There's going to be one play. And, you know, that's why they're champions because of that. All right. You're sticking around L.A.?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Going on any big vacations, running? I'll be around here for a while, maybe dip out a couple places, we'll see. Try to get on your podcast. Hey, you let me know. Tell your people. It's Meredith, right? Huh? Who keeps texting me, your company, your big company?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Mellon. Coast. Coast Productions. Probably, I don't, you know. Tell them I'm a nice person. I'm not trying to. No, they honestly think you're amazing that he handles, he doesn't have an assistant and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Everyone out there, he's handled it all himself, which is, that's awesome. I'm not bailing. It's just, you know, Super Bowl. I'm America's honesty broker It's all right As long as when you come I'm interesting To games with names set
Starting point is 00:22:20 You just don't steal another one of our Social media guys That's a lay We have that We're good Hey you just left people open I go out there Can't be letting somebody uncovered on the sideline
Starting point is 00:22:34 I just went out there and boom I feel like a Super Bowl and a team losing my Offensive coordinator I'm gonna rebuild I had a need. You had an opening. Boom, it happened. Good to seeing you. Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Julian Edelman. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,
Starting point is 00:23:30 my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast. The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw,
Starting point is 00:23:44 unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 00:23:55 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,
Starting point is 00:24:11 this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun,
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Starting point is 00:25:25 J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. We should have kept Edelman around for this first one. Boy, this Mac Jones stuff keeps getting. Uglier. Spicy?
Starting point is 00:25:39 So he was not great this year, obviously benched multiple times. According to Albert Breer, he would be surprised if the team stuck with Mack Jones. Adding the team's quarterback room has been toxic over the last two seasons. And how about this tidbit? Mack's relationship with Bailey Zappie was so bad. Zappi sometimes watched tape in the receiver room. I mean, listen, that sounds bad to the outsider. I don't know if Edelman, maybe that's normal.
Starting point is 00:26:05 The knock on Mac Jones was a brat. And I was told very early in the season that he did not take the hard coaching. He was a bit of a brat. You know, they called him McEnroe Jones at Alabama. He could be temperamental, a bit of a brat territorial. That's what I was told. So this literally sounds like this is on point to what I was told. And I went on the air and I said,
Starting point is 00:26:35 I heard he was, he could be, it just did not necessarily take the hard coaching all the time. Yeah. And I think Belichick ran, got fatigue with that very quickly. I felt like Belichick bailed on him this year, just done. I'll give you a D.C. a couple years ago, I'm just done with you. There's some only child syndrome stuff. Oh, he's kind of like, you know, he got pampered and got everything he wanted. Now he doesn't get what he wants with the Patriots, and he's like, fighting that.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Well, that's what I had heard. And this is in line with what I had heard. Yeah. Poor Bailey Zapp. You feel bad for that, that guy. Next up, Caleb Williams sticking with another quarterback. He is a big-time prospect. Everybody loves him.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Some have compared him to Patrick Mahomes. Well, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network is the latest to take that approach. Here he is talking about Caleb Williams on The Rich Eisen Show. He is, to me, in my opinion, it's just my opinion. In terms of ability, is the closest thing to Patrick Mahomes we've seen. he's got unbelievable arm talent. I mean, I'm talking arm strength from different angles, from different platforms, the creativity. When Mahomes was coming out of college, it was screens and scrambles.
Starting point is 00:27:43 That's what he majored in. It was helter-skelter, where you go matters. It's going to matter a lot for Caleb Williams. But I believe in my opinion, this is one of the more physically gifted and talented players at the position we've seen in a while. And some assembly is required. And he's going to need to go to the right place and get developed. I like that. Some assemblies require.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, that's funny. You know what made Mahomes great this year, right? Is the ability to take what the defense gives you. The strength downs. That's not a strength yet. And Caleb's a young guy, college. It's a fair criticism that others are starting to say is that, dude, take the layups. It's not flag football.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You got to take the layups. But here's the bigger problem. It's one thing when Andy Reed is teaching you how to take the layups. Now he goes to Chicago, Caleb Williams. And it's like, is that same infrastructure? The great coaching, is that going to be there to teach you? Well, Chicago has a number one receiver. Chicago has an okay number one tied in.
Starting point is 00:28:44 They have their left tackle, serviceable backs. So they're not, this is not Carolina. Now, do I think they need another receiver? Yeah, they tried with Chase Clayville. Their defense is playing better, but there's two great offenses. All three offensive. offensive coach is in that division. So the defense for the Bears was good at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Does not ensure anything because Green Bay and Detroit are only getting better. So the bottom line, to win the NFC North, in my opinion, Jason, you're going to have to score your way to it. Best defense is not going to win that division. Green Bay is loaded. Detroit's loaded offensively. And we both think the guy in Minnesota is exceptional. And they've got two great receivers in Minnesota. A lot of it is just, Caleb, you're going to come to the line.
Starting point is 00:29:26 You're going to see the defense and don't think, oh, I've got a 60 years. yard bombing. Don't think like that. Mahomes doesn't anymore. He comes in the line. It's like one pass over 20 yards in the Super Bowl. That's it. That's it. One. Final story is, oh, this is painful, Colin. You're Golden State Warriors. You love the Chris Paul edition. I do. Oh, boy. They look great through three quarters last night. Curry went off, and then they blew a 15-point lead in the fourth at home. To the paper clips who did not have Kauai Leonard. It was the Paul George show. Paul George looked incredible last night.
Starting point is 00:30:00 This was their sixth loss this season after leading by 15 or more points, and only the Spurs have more. Here's what Curry had to say after the gale. We're very average. Very average doesn't get it done in this league, so you got to,
Starting point is 00:30:16 you know, we need to make a run, hopefully to get bounced back tomorrow, and then you know, after the all-stop break, hit a stride that you win every game here and steal someone on the road. That's the formula, but we've been very average so far, so that has to regain that home court fear that we've been accustomed to in the past.
Starting point is 00:30:40 They're a really good team that has some confidence, and we're still trying to prove that we're that type of team. Well, they don't have a lot of size, so I could argue the Warriors don't get a lot of easy baskets, so that can help you with a lead when you want to slow the tempo, get some easy baskets in the interior, and they don't get a ton of them. Cominga's one of their only guys with size who scores.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So how do you lose leads? You get cold. So like if a Denver gets cold, dump it down to Gordon, Porter's got size, Yokic, Boston, go down to Porzengis, Janus. When you're a team with a lead and you're losing them, is it because you're so reliant on jumper? Like, the Lakers get a lead, LeBron beats his man, goes to the basket, or AD. They've got size, Ruiz got size.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So they don't have a ton of size. They don't get a lot of easy baskets. It feels like in the play-in, the Warriors will take on the jazz. I think they'll be fine. The Lakers, the Kings, or the Mavs. I don't know that Golden State gets out of playing home. Even when Chris Paul's back, it does not seem like this is the year for them. I mean, if Curry doesn't go postal, they're going to probably get smashed.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Good point. Fair, reasonable. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Heard Line News So tomorrow is our final show And then the whole staff gets a week off
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Starting point is 00:32:26 That's enough That's enough. Yes, we will be departing to parts unknown for a minute. All right. And that would be very exciting. Not as exciting as where you're going. Be nice if you helped your wife out on this little vacation. Hey, man, anytime I take out the garbage, I deserve credit and I let them know.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Hey, I'm taking out the trash, everyone. It's not all about the gun show and getting your workout in. Are you there to help on the vacay? Because Anne demands certain things. We need help. I need help on the vacation, you know? Ryan. I need help lifting my drinks, my boat drinks.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I just, you know what? your wife deserves a lot of credit. You're a lot of work. And I just hope you support her. This is not just a vacation for you as your mentor. Make sure it's a vacation for her, too. By the way, if she's listening, she's like nodding. She's definitely not listening.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Definitely not. Well, it's a pretty good show. She's not a huge sports fan outside of Taylor Swift and whatever team she's working. My wife has no idea what I do for a living. Could not care. I like that, don't you? I don't want to go home and talk sports. and my late mom are the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I like when you don't talk sports. I'm like, well, I talk sports, so you don't like to show much. Come to terms with that, I can handle it. Owning a Mercedes-Benz electric vehicle isn't just extraordinary. It's extra easy. Full remote access to your vehicle from your phone via the Mercedes-Me Connect app. Vehicles all electric. The feelings all Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:33:48 The choice all yours. Learn more at MBUSA.com slash EQ. Is it a big NBA night? I've watched a little bit of the Lakersnet last night. Is it a big, big, big night? No, tonight's a good night to watch streaming shows, I think. Okay, it is. So we're going to have to come up with a very creative open tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Have something special because there's not a lot out there. Should we just fast forward to their headlines at the end of the show tomorrow? No, there are some fire headlines. I'm talking like. I already, you know, this is sad, but I already, now that all the coaches are done, I do, maybe I could do it tomorrow. I'm going to give you my standings. I had a pretty good year on standings.
Starting point is 00:34:25 mostly full standings. I'm going to tell you who's good. I'm going to tell you the playoff teams tomorrow. And I got some real surprises. Real surprise. Because you know, you know, we're going to have minimum four new playoffs teams. Are the Colts going to the playoffs next year?
Starting point is 00:34:38 It's one of the interesting teams. I think the Colts are interesting. I think Washington and the Colts, again, does Anthony Richardson stay healthy? Yeah. If he stays healthy. Who's the disappointment? I think the Jets are going to be terrible.
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