The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - QB competition

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Pro Bowl wide receiver and FOX Sports NFL analyst TJ Houshmandzadeh sits down with Colin to chat about the quarterback competition in Pittsburgh, expectations for Jim Harbaugh in his first year in Los... Angeles, and much moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. T.J. Hushman Zata, over a decade in the NFL. That's interesting. Some of the stuff we were just talking about, we can't talk about, but we can't talk about some stuff. So I'm going to throw this out to you. So if you go look, I think Russell Wilson's better than Justin Fields. I'll stay that.
Starting point is 00:02:52 But if you go look at their numbers the last two years, and Justin's had a defensive coach, and Russell's had to office, offensive coaches, their numbers are pretty much even. So here's my take. Justin's younger, not rich, more relatable, more fun, and will blow people away at practice. Russell's more quiet, adult, wealthy, not as relatable, brand new in the locker room we know is history. And my take, and I could be totally wrong, my take is, is that Justin's going to have the players. Russell's going to have the coaches.
Starting point is 00:03:27 and after about a two-game losing streak, that Pittsburgh schedule, week 10 on is brutal. Justin's going to get a lot more snaps than people think. Am I nuts? No, you aren't. And the coaches would want to go with Russell Wilson just because he's done it before.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He's won a Super Bowl before. So we're going to, can he recapture his old self with us? Can he do that? But if he can't, and the Russell Wilson we've seen Russell Wilson didn't play bad last year The defense for Denver was terrible They didn't play he didn't play bad last year
Starting point is 00:04:04 But the year prior would hack it He was awful And so now it's Can Russell play? Was it Pete Carroll? Was it his system And that defense that really made Russell Wilson look better?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Justin Fields is talented Can he throw an anticipation? Can he throw with timing and not hold the ball? If he can do that because the new officer coordinator is a really good coach. Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith being a former head coach, but if you look when he was in Tennessee with Ryan Tannihill, Taney Hill was really good.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Oh, he was reborn from Miami. Yes, and so you want to run the ball, you want to play action. You have a receiver out there in George Pickens that's 100% going to win his one-on-ones. The jump ball with him, they 50-50 balls are 80-20 with George Pickens. And so Tomlin and that coach and staff, will want to go with Russell Wilson. But if he falters it any bit, I can see Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:05:02 starting eight, nine games this season. I can too, especially in the back end of that schedule. And also, not that Pittsburgh would fire Tomlin, but I could see Tomlin, he'll get a lot of heat. He's got it increasingly,
Starting point is 00:05:17 he was a little more patient with Kenny Pickett when most of us bailed after about 10 starts. So I just think it's something to keep your eye on because you've been in locker rooms before. Sometimes, I mean, you tell me all the years, Bengals, Seahawks, Ravens, Raiders, is the locker room always absolutely sure that the best quarterback is playing?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Well, for me. Yeah, you had Carson. Yeah, we had Carson, so it was no question. And I go to Seattle as Housellback is no question. Okay, okay. And so I will say this, as players, you know who you feel. should be playing. I mean, I've seen some guys get cut and I'm like, whoa, they cut him.
Starting point is 00:05:58 This dude could play. But at the quarterback position, if you're winning, you're cool. Start losing games because there's always three or four dudes in a locker room. They don't care who's around what coach, the owner. They just say stuff. They just say whatever. I mean, I play with dudes that literally will tell a coach at halftime of a game. You don't know what the hell you're doing. This dude ain't even playing. Like you just get players, they just don't care. They have no filter.
Starting point is 00:06:27 They just say whatever. And so if you start losing, guys will start talking and say, I feel like a field should be playing. And then it's just, it's a snowball. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I do think he should be playing. And if you start to get that, you're going to separate the locker, the locker room, and it can become a problem.
Starting point is 00:06:44 But in that division, you got Joe Burrow, you got Lamar Jackson. If Deshaun Watson returns the form, it's an uphill battle. Pittsburgh has that defense that will keep a problem. Pittsburgh has that defense that will keep him in games, but it's an uphill battle for the Steelers. So you spent some time with the Chargers. So Jim at San Diego, Niners, Michigan, this is what he does. Overnight, he turns it around. Like a lot of coaches, even Sabin took like three years for them.
Starting point is 00:07:11 His second year, he got waxed by Utah. Most great coaches take two, three years to turn it around. What's the secret sauce with Harbaugh to do it? he took over a mess at Michigan, a mess with the Niners, instantly good. He's smart. He can relate to players.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Anybody that goes to their practice, he has his Jordan Cleats home, and he might get under center sometimes and participate in practice. They do a lot of post-practice lifts and runs. He's doing it with the players. You think he out there are baby Dan Campbell. You know, he's doing a lot of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Let you in on a little... There's a lot of coaches in the league that teach you football. but when it comes to getting you better at your position, there's not many. And we as players, you know that. When you have a coach like Harbaugh, you believe in him. You trust when he tells you this is the look we're going to get, and this is how we're going to handle that look. You trust and believe it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 You don't second guess it. So as soon as you see that look, what you've gone over in practice, second nature, you believe it, you go. Certain coaches, you don't believe it. You second guess it. And so it just doesn't flow as smoothly. The play doesn't go off the way you want it because you're not believing it. And if I'm not believing it, the guy next to me probably isn't.
Starting point is 00:08:29 The guy next to him probably is it. And so when you have somebody like Harbaugh that everybody knows what you just said, University of San Diego, Stanford, Michigan, the 49ers, now the Chargers, he's going to turn it around. So when he tells you something, you're going to believe it and you trust it because it's track record. record is proven that. So Jamar Chase not practicing. Brandon Ayuk is, but he's unhappy.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You hold in. Does that stuff, does it affect anything to players talk, or is it just same old? He'll be back. It can become a problem. It can. It really depends on how the player handles it. Meaning, if Jamar Chase is not practicing because he wants a new deal
Starting point is 00:09:18 and he's just kind of cool about it, but he's just not practicing, it's fine. But if you start having bad body language, you start saying certain things and certain players, then it will become a problem. And I just don't understand teams. I don't. I don't understand teams.
Starting point is 00:09:36 If I know somebody is in my future, if you're going to be on my team for a long time, the sooner I sign you, the less expensive it is for my team. Yeah, welcome to corporate. I don't understand why they wait. The Eagles are the best at this. The Eagles get guys signed.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like, Jerry Jones, you didn't think C.D. Lown was going to be a part of your future? Sign him a long time ago. Now you got to give him more. The same thing with Dak. You better sign Michael Parsons now because somebody's going to leapfrog what he wants. And now you've got to give him more than that.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And so back to Jamar Chase and BA. If he's a part of your future, just pay him because we're humans. You walk around. There's days. You're going to have good days. You're going to be pissed off. Like, bro. Like, bad body language.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And the coach is not going to say, like, coach is not going to say anything to you if you're the player that will snap back because certain guys, they're just not going back down for it. It no matter who the coach is. So now you've created a problem because the player wants to get paid. So it really depends on if the player can be a true professional and handle it each day the way he should. But that is very hard to do.
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Starting point is 00:15:00 Drake May I think he's a project. Give me a jet if I said you don't have to tell me where you get your information but if I said to you this blank guy is going to work, and it may work quick. I'll give you two guys that I believe will work and work quick is Caleb Williams and Bo Nix. Interesting. Caleb Williams and Bo Nix. So let's start with Bo because that may surprise people. Why is that going to work quickly?
Starting point is 00:15:27 You would a coach that has always had success with quarterbacks. And he started so many games in college. Yeah, 61. He started so many games in college. Like four years. Like every year. And then the COVID year. By the way, two conferences.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So he had a bunch of different coordinators. So, I mean, Bo Nix has dealt with three coaches, five coordinators, two conferences. He's going to be successful because he's seen a lot. He's ready to play right now. And you're with a coach that his proof. I can win with almost anybody. I mean, Sean Payne was a. winning games with Teddy Bridgewater,
Starting point is 00:16:10 Taysam Hill, and at a high level. Yeah. And so I believe Bo Nix will be fine. He has Troy Franklin, a familiar face as a receiver that he played with in college. Also, for the record, I think Mims and Cortland,
Starting point is 00:16:23 I think Cortland Sutton, he may be a lower-end one, but I love Cortland. He kind of held out. He wanted more money, which I didn't understand. But he's a good player. But he's a good player. But Bo Nix is, I believe, he's going to play well.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I mean, if you look at the amount of starts he had in college, very rarely, with a guy with this many starts at the highest level of college football, the SEC in the PAC 12, which was the best conference last season, I believe he'll be successful, and Caleb Williams just speaks for himself. Duke can just play. What do you know LSU well? I think Jaden Daniels has a little Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think he's probably more refined at this point in his life in the pocket, but not quite as fast. Is he a little thin? What do you make of it? Jayton Daniels can play, man. Train with us the entire last year. I mean, Jayton Daniels is probably 210 pounds. When Jayton first started, probably 175.
Starting point is 00:17:18 No, at Arizona State, his helmet looked too big. He's accurate. You want to play with him as a player, the way he carries himself. You want to play with him a personable dude. The only concern I would have is, would Dan Quinn being a defensive coach, is he going to be making some of the calls, meaning, hey, I just want to run the ball here, we'll punt ball.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And, yeah, he's not calling to play, but you technically are calling to play. Just what kind of leash are you going to have? Are you going to let him play? Or are you going to try to play game safe and hope your defense can win it? And so that may be my only concern. I heard Cliff Kingsbury really pushed hard
Starting point is 00:17:56 for Jaden Daniels with a number two pick, that Cliff was like, that kid's good. when you look at the improvements that he made each year in college is remarkable. If LSU has a good defense state, they're playing in a college football playoff last year. Yeah. He was that good last year. And so you statistically, it was better than what Joe Burrow did. Joe Burrow just had a ton of NFL guys on defense, whereas Jane Daniels didn't.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Right. And you can look at it and say, man, this guy's going to play. We know two or three these guys aren't going to play well. But if I had to pick two, it would be those guys because of the situation that Bowknicks is in. And you look at the weapons that Caleb Williams have and that he has to play with. And Chicago's defense was very good down the stretch last season. Excellent. T.J. Hushman Zada, he'll be on a speak today at 5 Eastern on FS1.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Great senior as always, buddy. Always great. Thank you. Appreciate you having me. Oh, I love having you. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:19:02 This is the herd line news. All right, let's start with Caleb Williams. Getting ready for his rookie campaign. The Bears have put all their eggs in his basket going forward. But Caleb says he doesn't feel like any of that outside pressures on him. Pressure isn't a word that I use and my vocabulary. Really, only when other people talk about it. And every time that you'll hear me speak about pressure is that I don't think that pressure is a thing.
Starting point is 00:19:29 as long as you prepare for the moment, mentally and physically. Getting here work, get after, whether it's wave room, film, room, and then get on the field and work, and then obviously game days. Get out there and go be special. I like that. I don't like the word pressure. It doesn't exist. Do your prep, let it rip.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That's good advice. It's going to be interesting in a beautiful city, Chicago. Maybe you can join me for a weekend or two in the windy city they call. When are you going? Maybe I'll consider it. I have a trip in October for sure. I know, I'm gone. You got a free hotel room for me or no?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Oh, I got room for you. Why don't you bring your wife out there? Oh, what is this? A recruiting pitch? Anyways, let's move on to Travis Kelsey, who has, listen, he's had a busy off season following Taylor Swift all around the world, which sounds like fun, by the way. But now he's back at Chiefs Camp gearing up for his 12th season.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Listen, man, we talked about it last year. He had not had a great season like a midway through. He looked old. Well, he was falling in love. He was falling in love. You get a little... You got to go back to your old love. Football.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Top priority over Taylor's... The old ball and chains always available. Anyway, well, listen, he's been one of Mahomes' favorite targets over the years, but Kelsey admitted that at 34, he's feeling a lot of wear and tear. Last year was pretty taxing on my body. I've had more snaps than a lot of guys, if not everybody, in the NFL over the past five. six years. And, you know, I'm very fortunate. I'm very prideful of that. But I know it has taken
Starting point is 00:21:01 a toll on my body. So it's just, you know, making sure that my body's getting that rest and that ability to, you know, train harder and be able to withstand an entire 17 to 20 game season. By the way, do you see Taylor Swift was in Germany over the weekend? She'd performed at a venue where there was a hill next to it and the hill was packed with people that couldn't get into the stadium. Very thoughtful. Okay. Listen, you had a good point about the Cowboys where you said if CD Lamb goes down. Oh, they're in big trouble.
Starting point is 00:21:34 What the hell of? Okay. Let's say Travis Kelsey has to miss eight games. What's your concern level with the cheats? Who's wide receivers? Probably a bottom seven group? Yeah. We don't know what's up with her she rice.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He'll play. If Worthy can play. Oh, come on. Is he even better than Brandon Cooks? We don't know. Well, he's considered a better prospect than Brandon Cooks. Cook's was a burner. He can deliver.
Starting point is 00:21:58 He's bounced around the league. I just, if something were to happen to Kelsey, well, there's no question. They're not nearly as good in the red zone. I mean, that just changes the entire AFC. And like Mahomes is a superstar. We know Reed is awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:11 They could scheme up a Checo and a bunch of other dudes, but I've got my concerns with the Chiefs. No, I don't think they're going to three feet. I don't. I think they're going to be good, but I got my eye on Buffalo. Buffalo. Wow. That's bold.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I just can't wait that we start doing UV me gambling on NFL. Some of these games like Buffalo over the Jets, that's not happening. I'm going to spend some real money gambling
Starting point is 00:22:36 on college football this year. Okay. I will piggyback with Oh, yeah. I am so fired up for college football. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Final story is JJ McCarthy. The rookie out of Michigan is battling with Sam Donald for the Viking starting QB role. Donald is the clear front runner right now, but that doesn't bother McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He says he's just focusing on learning and growing every day. I feel like, you know, I'm not focused on the outcomes of each day. I'm just focusing on learning how to get better and improve the weaknesses that I have with my game and also learn my teammates' strengths and try to amplify them every chance I get. So we're off to a great start so far. When the time comes, the time comes. And I'm just training it every single day. So when that time does come, I'm going to be ready.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Sam Darnel's going to have a very interesting year. I think people are just putting the Vikings in full. fourth place. Be very careful. What's there over under? Seven and a half, six and a half. Be very careful. Denver and the Vikings, super smart offensive coaches,
Starting point is 00:23:38 capable quarterbacks, nice weapons on the perimeter. Vikings Broncos are being disrespected by Vegas. I've got to ask, before I come back to Vikings, obligatory. Rookie quarterback, podium, with the stuff behind him and he had the hat backwards.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I know that really ruffles your feathers. Don't love it. Not a huge fan of that, huh? Nope. Welcome to the NFL, J.J. McCarthy. Remember, I've been bullish on him for a while. I don't think he's going to start on with you. Ask for the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So I think we did AFC headlines on Friday. We're doing NFC this week. I'm very excited. And the Vikings are the team I want to put in the playoffs. I don't know if I can pull the trigger. Let me tell you something. It's all on Sam Darnel. You know they have talent.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's all in Sam Darnel. So I think they're fascinating because, you know, love Darnold, but I can also acknowledge that he tends to be a beat late sometimes on throws and uncorks one horrible throw every Sunday. He's got an awful pick every Sunday. But that was with the New York Jets. That's right. Well, Carolina, too. Okay, fine, Carolina. Might as well be the same day. I just think, I think he has the best coach he's had and the best weapons and the best old line. So I think he's going to be Baker Mayfield. Everybody bailed on him. You went to L.A. and you're They're like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And they went to Tampa and you're like, hmm, everybody bailed. Gino Smith, everybody bailed. He got the right group of people supporting him, good receivers, continuity, Pete Carroll. Oh, Gino can play a little. So you know how I like to say the best time to rebuild is last year, right? I think the Vikings are doing as good of a job. Remember, they move off Dalvin Cook in a pillow. Oh, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Dalvin Cook's good. Goes to the Jets. Totally washed. Yeah, I don't even know if Dalvin Cook's in the league right now. they moved off at the right time. Kirk Cousins, move off, coming off the injury. I think there's one of the sharpest front offices
Starting point is 00:25:31 in the league, and if I'm betting Vikings, I'm betting on Kevin O'Connell, the great coach. There's six and a half. You don't think they can go seven and ten with those weapons? Yeah, I think that has to be. Vikings and the Broncos. I mean, Denver's five and a half wins. They can't, Sean Payton can't go six and 11. Now they've got three legit targets.
Starting point is 00:25:52 If the O-line is healthy for Minnesota and Denver, they're winning games. Remember, the other thing is if Sean Payton, because the Denver's got a good O-line, if Bonex just stays upright and healthy, he'll face four or five backups over the course of the season, 60 quarterbacks play a year. So my big difference between those two is Russell Wilson played last year for Denver, and they weren't great. Kevin O'Connell, once her cousin went down, had like Josh Dobbs, Dude, you've never heard of Taryn Hall.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But Russell Wilson was a terrible fit with Sean. Bow Nix is a perfect fit for Sean. He's Drew Breeze 2.0. Russell Wilson's running out of open. I mean, there's multiple people have come on our show. Multiple people have come on our show and said that Russell Wilson last year, when you looked at the film like Greg Kosell, Russell was running out of completions. That, I can tell you, drove Sean crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Sean's not going to ream you if he just can't make certain throws. But when he schemes stuff open and you won't let go with the ball, that's why Russell's no longer a Denver Bronco. Bo Nix, I watched him twice live. Oregon schemed him up beautifully. He didn't add lib a lot, didn't have to. You scheme by his, he's a coach's kid. You scheme him up, he delivers the ball.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The kid, it's like 70% completion, right? By the way, T.J. Hushmanzada. I talked to somebody over the weekend who I trust. He said, don't be shocked at Bo Nix. Now, I don't believe this, but he said, don't be surprised if Bo Nix doesn't have the best rookie season of all these quarterbacks. Better than Caleb. He said best rookie season.
Starting point is 00:27:34 He said he's got three receivers, two backs, good old line, smart coach. He goes, he may not have the ceiling of Caleb or Javan. He says, but don't be shocked if Bo Nix doesn't have the best 15, 16 game resume at the end of the season. Huh. Bolt. It's kind of bull. I mean, they lost Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I don't know that you guy. That guy's on the No Hands team. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Live in L.A. It's the Herd. One more Herd?
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Starting point is 00:29:07 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. Okay, wait till I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:29:27 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in, sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't
Starting point is 00:29:59 always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself.
Starting point is 00:30:40 We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world. that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land
Starting point is 00:31:03 while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. American soccer, about to explode. The World Cup is coming.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Ramos sending on to Ernie Stewart the chip. I'm Tad Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals.
Starting point is 00:32:04 The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Chris Paul stopped by earlier today, and the Point God stopped by our show today. He's a two-time Olympic gold medalist. played with the late Kobe Bryant on one of those teams.
Starting point is 00:32:32 We talked about something that was kind of an uncomfortable moment where Jason Tatum sat, never got in the game, and watched two of his Celtic teammates, Derek White, and Drew Holiday, get all sorts of minutes. And I asked Chris about, you know, Feeba Olympics, chemistry, playing time in a shorter game, and how weird it is. USA basketball is always tough, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:57 because you have some of the best players in the world, and JT is obviously one of the best players in the world. And I always speak about our 2008 Olympic team, and that was my first time playing in the Olympics. And I always say the three most important players on that team are great players that sometimes people leave out when they're naming that team. And that's Michael Red, Tashon, Prince, and Carlos Buzer.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And I say that because those guys were just pros. It's just a different landscape now where everyone's going to talk about it on social and all this stuff, man. But I just hope that J.T. knows who he is and what he's capable of love and just continues to get ready for when his name is called. The other thing, and Jay Mack and I are excited for this,
Starting point is 00:33:39 is that if you've watched the Olympics and you've watched Wembe for the French team, he is so spectacularly unique and dominant. I mean, he blocks shots with his elbow. There's just nothing like him in the world. I mean, a lot of great people, players. I mean, when you watch Kobe, he was a little like MJ. Very few players are, Steph Curry came into the league. Nobody shot like that. Nobody plays like Wembe. Now, Chet Holmgren's got some of the skills with Oklahoma City. But Chris Paul now is a member of
Starting point is 00:34:13 the Spurs, the point God with Wembe, and the, he talked about Wembe and the evolution of European players. He's one of those guys that after the game this past year, we all talked about how weird it was to try to guard him to try to shoot over him but it just shows you how the game is grown i mean and there's an appreciation i think for you know american players or whatnot of the european players i was watching the greece game the other day and i saw spinoleus as the coach you know i've played long enough to remember him as a player you know there's NBA plays that's named after him and now he's coaching the greek national team so it's it's dope to see how the game continues to grow And it just means that, you know, people like my kids and all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:35:00 you're just going to have to get that much better. I love when we show here on FS1, when we showed the French highlights, and you and I were kind of mystify. I mean, it was just watching him last year. We didn't watch a lot of Spurs games. But here on the Olympic stage, most of these Olympic teams have NBA players, when he blocked shots, like people are still adjusting to Wemby's defense, he has he'll have 10 block games
Starting point is 00:35:27 and I think people it's one thing that you're tall there's been tall players Yao Ming forever but 7-4 and active like he's not only 7-4 he's got catch-up speed so you're quick and get past him most bigs you can get past to the rim
Starting point is 00:35:45 you can't with Wemby so some of the blocks are players are adjusting to his deep forget the offense he's going to give you 28 a game next year But his defense, I think it's, remember the average NBA guy, six, six and a half. He was like seven four and long. Ralph Samson. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He was a great player at Virginia and then in the NBA. I remember him well. Houston Rockets. Him and Elijah won had like a moment where they, I thought they were going to overtake the Lakers in the West. They did beat him one year. Now, he didn't have the ball handling skills. He wasn't as fluid offensively. He was more of a classic big man.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I mean, he was a great dominant college player. Oh, he was the dominant college. But you're right. Wemby's just like that times 10 with the handle. A guy that's long forgotten, but was really interesting is Sam Bowie at Kentucky. If you YouTube Sam Bowie, Sam Bowie had
Starting point is 00:36:36 a little Wemby, where he could give him the ball in the wing, and he could take a few dribbles. He's a shooter. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Sam Bowie, I think, is the one player. Greg Oden got hurt, but in the history of the NBA, if you took one guy that I thought, injuries derailed his career, two.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Bill Walton and Sam Bowie, and we'll never know with Bowie, but I remember watching him in college, and like Wemby, he could put the ball on the deck and pull up for a 16-footer, and you were like, oh, that looks good. Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway also, two guys who were unbelievable start. I mean, Grant Hill was supposed to be post-Jordan,
Starting point is 00:37:11 the guy for the league, and then he had injuries. Yeah, Penny Hardaway as well. Penny Hardaway, it was good. I went and saw a lot of Penny games with the Orlando Magic when I worked in Tampa. That Orlando team was fun. Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott, Shaq. Dennis Scott. Nick Anderson missed some crucial free throws. They did against the rockets, but they also took down Jordan in the playoffs. Yes. I don't remember that. That's forgotten.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Somehow, that videotape disappeared into the ether. Donald Royale locking up Michael Jordan. This happened. Look at a guy. I'm not making this up. That's funny. It happened. All right. I think women's team USA plays at three today. Caitlin Clark's suiting up yet or no. No, she's not on the team. She's a big distraction. Oops.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me. with Robert Smygel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's be.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild. I mean, it was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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