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New Stafford was in Detroit, blah, blah, blah. And so people ask, you know, why is L.A. right now, all the sports doing well, because really it is. Like everything here wins, the L.A. Kings are like the one team not winning, but they're super, super young and talented. They're just too young. But a lot of it I said is it's reality is Los Angeles. In 2022, you can live anywhere in the country because of the Zoom culture. There's never been more money for athletes.

They're not sitting around there worried about tax rates. You can make so much more money here than in Cincinnati or Cleveland. I mean, look at OBJ's brain. since he arrived in L.A. So he's been reborn. I mean, as great as LeBron was, he doubled his net worth in four years living in Los Angeles. He's got billionaires lined up one of new deals with him.

So part of it is as sports get bigger and bigger and bigger, athletes can make more and more and more. And being in Los Angeles, not having to fly in and hold meetings, being in Los Angeles, next to your agent, next to the company's huge financial advantage that you can't get flying in town occasionally.

If you put Joe L.M. B'd in Los Angeles. Los Angeles. I mean, Philadelphia is a big town. That's a big city. If you put Joel M. Bid in the Lakers, he would quad, he would double his net worth in a decade simply because agents, stars, that Netflix is here and everybody's here. 18, somebody once told me 18 NFL owners own a house in somewhere in California. But that's part of it. The second thing is, we have really good. front offices here. And this is something that's important, is that I've said this about New York. The quality of a lot of their coaches is not very good. The quality of their front offices is not

very good. In Los Angeles, if there's an opening tomorrow to be the general manager of the chargers or the Rams, you're going to get virtually everybody in the league applying. Because it's the free agent destination. It's a beautiful place to live. It's like a reward after a hard career. Everybody would want that job. Like the best GMs would look at the Rams and go, I got the richest owner, I got the best stadium, I got Matt Stafford. And so A's attract A's. B's attract C's. People who are Bs, they hire C's because they're insecure. This is for people who are secure and what they do, are looking for the big life, are aspirational, are not afraid, want challenges, and can fail massively. But they want it. I said this about Lincoln Riley. It's nothing against

Oklahoma. It's a top three or four program ever. It's fantastic. Oklahoma football. I've been watching this since I was a kid. I was watching it in the 70s. But if you're telling me in 2022, I can live in Norman, Oklahoma, or Los Angeles, we have the Olympics. We have SoFi Stadium. We have the Super Bowl. It's just bigger. I can take recruits to Super Bowls. I can take them to the Olympics. It's just a bigger, broader world. And people who really want the best for themselves are going to roll the dice. The smartest people I've ever met are highly aggressive. They're not, that's a lot. That's why I always say, Aaron Rogers, if he's really competitive, does not give a rip about being in a division with Patrick Mahomes.

He doesn't care. If you're great, you're not sitting there and going, oh, I got to face Patrick Mahomes. You think I am, I'll be as good as Patrick Mahomes. That's how great people think. And I think the world's changed. LA is a great part of it. It attracts really high-end front office people. Like, like, and it's expensive.

So, like, you know, you're not going to live. you're going to get more acreage in Philadelphia or Denver or Jacksonville. You're going to get bigger house. You're going to get a lot of acreage, but you're not going to be in the game. You're not going to have the juice that you have here. Like when Lincoln Riley left, it's remarkable to watch people that didn't get it. We get Olympics here and Super Bowls here and NBA finals here and the World Series here. And it's big.

And Lincoln Riley's young and talented. And he can stay in Norman for the rest of his life. All right. You win a bunch of college football games. What if you want more than that? What if you want to rebuild a massive brand and become the best coach in the NFL? It's a good place to start here. Sean McVeigh, as good as he is, is not doing this in Jacksonville.

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learn the hard way. Open your free. iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now joy with the news turn on the news this is the herd line news it's it's just a place that you get exposed pretty quickly if you're fraudulence if you have a crappy restaurant you'll close your doors in six weeks you can't compete here like and if you're a star in los angeles you're a star yeah there's a lot of stars in other places. Right. The burbs of Boston have a lot of funny guys. If you're really funny, you're like Bill Burr, you end up out here. And also, you know, not to be elitist about LA,

but there's just some things that are factual. And right now we are in a world where content is king. Los Angeles is the city of content. Like this is Hollywood. This is where we make contents. And now that's what the world does. Everyone is on their phone and brands and all of that. You shoot everything here. You do the commercials here. Like, if you're going to build a brand, this is an easy place to do it. And if you're a star and you want to continue growing as a star, you know, you're not going to go out to your local diner and run into the head of a studio there if you're not in Los Angeles.

Like that's just, that's how it works. That's how these things continue to spiral and build. So if you are a superstar, obviously there's different standards here. There's different expectations and you have to live up to them. But yeah, I mean, look, like I didn't understand Los Angeles before I moved here. I lived in the East Coast. So in Pittsburgh and Miami. Miami's a massive city.

So what's your interpretation of just the bigness? Well, it's just different. Like it just, you have to spend time in Los Angeles to understand it. There's so much money here and not like normal money. Like, oh, like I got a house with a pool. I have an estate, an estate or the gate that is for city blocks. But I see a lot of these people that have never lived in L.A., they've got it figured out.

I mean, listen, it's not for everyone. That's certainly for sure. Like, it's not for everyone. But this idea that people are leaving here in this giant exodus of Los Angeles is like, okay, like, then you either have so much money that you probably still have a house here, to be honest with you. And you're just living somewhere else during the pandemic, which is not normal to most people. By the way, you guys all go into your conservative news sites that tell you how bad California is, then I'm the show that comes and says, it ain't that bad, I live here. I literally had a cocktail yesterday in a hot tub. It was 75 degrees at night.

So if you're going to watch all your shows that say how terrible it is, mine's the show that comes on and says, it's funny, we've got 40 million people and we're the fourth biggest economy in the world. It's pretty nice. You can watch your station. I'm just going to combat that occasionally. It is,

but also there's reasons for it, like other than, you know, we just like living in Los Angeles. There are actual, like, functional reasons why people still do, no, but I'm saying there's still a reason why people do business here. There's still a reason why free agents come here. Like, nobody likes paying taxes. Yeah, it all, it stinks.

The people that like it. You know about anybody who woke up in the morning like, man, I can't wait to send that check to the IRS. Yeah, we don't like it either. But filet mignon's expensive too. Yeah. I prefer a, you know, I prefer the bone in.

But Kyler Murray made headlines scrubbing his Instagram last week with the Cardinals references. Yeah, that was weird. It is kind of curious. Well, the team recently released a statement saying that nothing's changed regarding Kyler and they're committed to him as the quarterback. But they reportedly want him to take some steps forward

in his development. according to Mike Garifolo. Arizona wants him to approve in a number of areas, including his maturity and body language on the sidelines and to become a more vocal leader among his teammates. Several members of the Cardinals were reportedly not pleased that Kyler did not finish

their wild card loss to the Rams. He wasn't on the field for the last two snaps. That isn't terribly difficult to believe. Kyler Murray's leadership skills were not something that we've talked about or hear a lot about. Not that he's not a leader, but he does seem like more of a quiet guy.

He's, you know, seen him in some interviews, not, you know, not really being the quarterback, corterbacial type of player. Well, he, his body, we talked about this during the season. He could brush up on his body language. It's very Jay Cutler. Like, I didn't have to know Jay Cutler

to watch him on the sidelines and go, that's not what I want. That body language is not going to work for me. Well, that said, I do think that Kyler is the future here. He's wildly talented and I think more of it is they seem to be in this space where they haven't figured out how to get over the hump, which a lot of, a lot of organizations get into. They have a lot of talent. They have great pieces. They have their guy and Kyler Murray. Now you got to finish the

season out. Like, you got to have a great regular season. You got to get to the postseason and make some noise. Like, that's what the expectations of this team should be. So I think it could get a little spicy this year if they don't have more success. Well, if they sign them to a big extension and they don't succeed, then Cliff Kingsbray's out of work. I mean, that's just the way the game works in the NFL. Especially in that division. Yeah, in that division, you have to have

Kyler Murray. You can't be, nothing against Kirk Cousins. In that division, he would be engulfed. Jimmy G. has a great, coach, a great, defense, great, playmakers, Debo, Samuel, George Kittle. And Jimmy G's getting to the NFC championship game. And they didn't win the division. Like that division, you better have a playmaker at quarterback. So in his fifth season as an NFL head coach,

Sean McVeigh is a Super Bowl champion, and at 36 years, 20 days, he's also become the youngest head coach to win a Super Bowl. It was previously helped by Mike Tomlin, who won when he was 36 years old, 10 months and 17 days. So they were both 36, but McVeigh was slightly younger when he won his Super Bowl.

He is 55 and 26 in five seasons as the Rams head coach, and they have made the playoffs in four of his five seasons with the team. He's really impressive. I didn't take too much away from his Super Bowl loss. Look, you get out coached by Bill Belichick. It's a pretty common thing in the NFL for the past 20 years. Well, Zach Taylor got very conservative at the end of this game. People would say that McVeigh adapted in-game and did a better job than Zach Taylor.

Like, he should. It's like Jack Taylor, like McVeigh's the mentor to Zach Taylor. He was on his staff. So sometimes you get, you know. Well, when you get in the big games, everything matters. You can get away with certain things like, you know, nine sacks or something when you're playing Tennessee who hasn't really made any noise in the postseason. You can't get away with that against a good veteran team. Like this is a great team.

They put it together to win a championship. I love that it actually paid off. We like aggressive. And what I loved about the Super Bowl, those are two different styles, which is the, you know, kind of conservative Bengals, young team, young stars. Look how happy they are. Yeah. It's great. It's good people that work hard.

keep relationships and put together good teams should be rewarded. And they were. This is a great win for the Rams. You should want teams like the Rams to win because everybody else around the league, all these GMs, you know when it drives you crazy, your GM doesn't pay for somebody and wants to hoard draft picks. What the Rams are sending a message is, go be aggressive.

And so if you're a fan of your team and they're sitting hoarding draft picks and you're like, there's a defensive end out there, the Rams... In different situations. That's what I liked about this. Super Bowl because the Bengals should be keeping drafts. They should be drafting. They're a very young team. You want to build them together and

put in these extra veteran pieces. The Rams are in a win now situation. When the Bengals came into the season, they weren't expecting to be in the Super Bowl. So it really showed two different ways of building. Now obviously the Rams were more prepared and, you know, had more experience, but there's multiple ways to win. So the Rams

had a Super Bowl to celebrate last night. But they also had another addition to the Rams family. During the game, wide receiver Van Jefferson's wife went into labor and was taken to the hospital. So after the win, they showed video of him rushing off to see her to see the birth of their second child. So congrats to them. I love the celebrations after the Super Bowl. This is him running to the hospital as his child is being born.

Safety Taylor Rap proposed to his girlfriend down on the field after the win. Van Jefferson did confirm last night that this is Taylor Rap proposing. He posted a picture holding his newborn son. and did Van Jefferson after the win. And Aaron Donald said he promised his daughter when she was five years old that they'd go and play in the confetti after he won the Super Bowl. So he was playing in the confetti with this family last night as well. I mean, it's a great moment.

Families are obviously a huge part of this as well. You know, the guys are going to rehab and working all day and coming home tired and, you know, your support and having a strong support system around you, especially through a long season, is important. So it's always awesome to see everybody celebrating. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Hurd-Ly News. Mark Sanchez, 10 years in the NFL, Fox Sports. Let's bring him on on a Monday celebrating the former USC quarterback. Look at that, Mark. That was, boy, what a spectacle. You know, you played in, I can remember the Rose Bowl you played in, I think, was it against Penn State. Yes, sir.

Yeah, yeah. And you go, you know, it's funny. There was a time when L.A. was not a professional football town, not long ago. and USC was the professional football town. And those big Saturday night games, I was on the sideline. They felt like, you know, this with an older stadium. And just, you know, just take us to, you're in L.A.,

you win a big game, the celebration. I was watching Sean McVam like, you had some of those. And you can't stop smiling because they're smiling. Like you see somebody happy and it gives you happiness and joy for them because you know what they've been through. I mean, they're grinding it out. He was talking about leaving the game. Remember, NickVey was like, you know, I might go do the broadcasting thing.

You can tell it wears on him. He cares about it so much. He cares about his players. You know, losing guys during the year. Robert Woods, losing guys during the game, having to make adjustments, putting Ben Skoronic in the game in crucial situations. That was crazy. They had huge obstacles to overcome, like every team, and only one team gets to celebrate. So when you do, you realize how special it is.

It's interesting. I thought the OBJ injury, I mean, the thing that when I think of the Rams this year, I think of stars, who were big and big games, Stafford great in the fourth quarter, and resilience. They lost Cam Acres. They lost Robert Woods. To lose OBJ at half,

if you were the quarterback, that's big. To me, I was like, now I got a fourth string-wide receiver in. Yeah, and I mean, Scorana came in. You could tell they were just a little off, him and Stafford. They just don't have the time on task.

And maybe, you know, when you sign a guy mid-year, you're throwing to that guy a ton. You know, after practice, you're watching extra film, just catching up to speed, trying to speak the same language. and communicate well for scuronic i mean he's not he's more of a special team's guy he's

you know getting an opportunity he did have a couple catches but you could tell on that in-rout the second interception they were just a little bit off and stafford was expecting one thing and he was expecting another but i thought uh cup talked about i think and cooper cup talked about it in the post game press conference he said um with stafford he said i could see his body language on that big in route he caught yeah where stafford threw it through like car wash without getting wet. Yeah. That thing, his body was like, look at him, like looking to the right. Yes.

Cup goes, oh, he's looking up that deep dirt. Oh, I'm getting in this window. He's throwing me the ball. It was a note. Look at that. Oh, my gosh. Through defenders and hands and everything. It's no look. I mean, he's looking that guy off so hard to the underneath and bringing that, you know, defenders at times, they'll be like a moth to a light and your eyes are the light. Oh, my gosh. You just got to shine the light at the wrong guy. And then, but for Matt to do that, like, that's the ultimate trust right there. It's awesome. Obviously, Von Miller,

Aaron Donald, as Shannon Sharp said, they put them on the same side, highly disruptive. And I thought from the very beginning, the game plan told me that Burrow and Zach Taylor said, listen, we're not doing, this is not a seven-step drop. We've got to get the ball. That was really honest. First drive,

I'm like, oh, they're not given. They're scheming Aaron out of the game. Did you ever face a D-line that good where you knew it practice on film? Yeah, we're not, we don't match up well here. Well, I think, you know, any good defensive front like that, the idea is you just try and keep them off balance as best you can, right? Like, you got to go different sets of plays and they have to be successful plays to

continue drives. So you want to mix it up. So what I mean is quick game, like three step drop timing, boom, balls out of your hand, hit them with a quick run, hit them with a naked movement, get outside the pocket, do a little sprint out, play action them, then do a little drop back. you've got to go all those different sequences, and they have to be successful because you can't keep going three and out, obviously. The idea is just move the passer, right?

Don't leave them, you know, seven and a half, eight yards deep, right behind the center because those guys are just going to make a B-line for them. Just keep them off balance a little bit. And I thought at the beginning of the game, they ran the ball well enough to do that. Because when you run the ball, you just slow the defense down. You keep them off balance, boom. And then when you throw it, your play action stuff,

all that opens up with a good run game. I just thought that run game, dried up pretty quick in that second half, you could tell, man, those guys were hungry up front. I mean, Vaughn Miller and Vaughn had two huge sacks, but seven sacks total. And then it's everything we said. Remember, I called the Minnesota game, or excuse me, remember the Lions came to L.A. and almost beat the Rams. Yes. It was Aaron Donald with the pressure, Jalen Ramsey with the interception to end the game. It's like their big stars are going to show up at the end when it matters the most. Stafford was on fire. Cup was on fire. They connected. Boom, their defense.

makes the play on fourth and one. And the third and one, or maybe the second down on the run, whoever it was in front, it wasn't, I want to say 95 maybe. I'm blanking on his name, but he's the one who held the running back to force a third and one. Right. And then they went incomplete, I think, and then tried to run it or whatever they did on fourth down.

But the play was on second down, holding that guy back and forcing the third down, because he looked like he had a free run at a first down. That was a huge play. Stafford. So in the moment, we say this on the show often. It's one thing to throw the ball. It's another to throw it when you have to throw it and a good D-line knows it. For them to have a 79-yard 15 play drive, like the world knows. I've said this about there's a lot of quarterbacks. Kirk Cousins on play action can be a beautiful thrower. Okay, now it's third and 11 and here they come. And they know everybody in the stadium knows it. Also, I think it's so funny because that fly sweep is that play they handed a Cooper Cup on the 4th and 1.

They used to major in that. They used to run that all the... I mean, they ran it to death a year ago, two years ago. And they were one of the only teams doing it. They haven't gone back to that well in so long and out of nowhere on a 4th and 1, they ripped off a fly sweep. I was like, are you kidding me?

And, I mean, they had them in the backfield. They almost tackle him. That's unbelievable. Look at that. He, you know, he's an interesting receiver that, you know, Akib Talib, I was talking to him yesterday on a podcast, and I said, you know, what is it?

Because you were at practice with him. He said, A, top of his route, he's got multiple moves. He uses leverage. He gets you on his hip. He's like, this is a guy that has majored in route running. And he's like, and he's, and he's, the thing, he said, he goes, Cooper's bigger than you think. He's way bigger than you think. He's a 2007 pound receiver.

That's a big boy. Like, Debo's only like 225, and Debo looks the part. He's thicker, yeah. But, but Akib said that. He said, like, this guy's way, because, you know, he's hard. after the catch? Yes. He's a big body guy. Like, you don't want to have to hit him.

The dbs are much smaller than this guy. So, I mean, that's just a difficult matchup. Plus, he's pretty twitchy. Like, he's got a lot of fast twitch to him. And if you watch, he's so patient, you know, like the last touchdown on the fade. He hit like a double crossover step, set up the DB. Am I blocking you? Am I running you off?

And boom. And then when he turns on the gas, I mean, this guy's got an extra gear. So he's a special player. And I love this too, that back of the end zone corner route, it was off like a play action. So normally you go in and show like you're blocking that safety on the backside of a run. And he knew the safety was already bit. He had already bit on the fake. I don't have to go contact him.

So all he did was put his head down, turn on the gas and made a B-line for that back pylon, which is so instinctive. Because normally you're taught by the book as it's drawn, hey, go contact this guy and then go. and he just saw it happen and made the adjustment on the fly. Those are the kind of things that you can't teach players. Either they know it or they want to learn it or they don't. And they can never get there. They don't have that capacity. But having that guy is like having an extra quarterback in the huddle.

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Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,

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Open your free, our heart radio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. So Joe Burrell was in a world of hurt. You know, in the end, I kind of looked at it, and I thought to myself,

you know what, considering he had no time to throw, I thought he made, I thought Joe Burrell came off fine. Oh, he played. He's really, so Joy was saying that. Of all the things you saw,

if you were at the stadium, Aaron Donald's hard to block and Joe Burrell's really good. And he's just, he played exactly how he did in big moments and all through the playoffs. He was cool,

he's calm, while he's just getting his head taken off at times, you know, like how does this guy get up again? How does he keep doing it again? He's like, you know,

Michael Myers kind of thing. Like he just doesn't die. Like he's that tough and that gritty. It's just, you know, you got to keep him upright. You know,

you got to keep that guy upright, make it a little easier on him, you know, to the best of your ability, like just, like towards the end, it just felt like he was really treading water because he just didn't have time. And when he did finally get the ball off,

it was just like, if he would have held it like that much longer, just a tick longer, sack, you know? Seven of his last 22 snaps, he was sacked. Yeah, so it's, I mean, the defense turned it up. They got after him. And when it was time to throw the ball,

they had to. But you look at all three of their playoff wins, their defense made a huge play at the end of every game, right? Against the Raiders, they stop them on fourth down, right on the goal line against Tennessee. They got an interception. And then against Kansas City, Joe Burrow,

threw an interception. Then the defense got on the ball right back when Bates tipped that ball, which was an incredible play, by the way. So every time the defense came up with that play, so last night when the Rams are driving on their final drive, I was like, this is it. Like the Bengals defense has to do this

because they're not gonna, they're not gonna do anything else on offense. I don't think. It doesn't look like the Rams are giving up anything. Let's see what we're gonna do here on defense. I think that was really too, bad for them. I mean, they had an incredible run. And Joy said it when she said the news. Like, nobody thought the Bengals were going to be in the Super Bowl anyway, right? So they're kind of

playing with house money. They got some great experience out of their belt. And now, how can we protect Joe Burrow? How can we keep this group together with all this confidence we got? And I think they'll be around for the next couple years. They're a good group. When I think of Alabama's dynasty, I don't think of stars. I think of coaching and defense. You are part of the last college football dynasty that was really star-driven. And so the Rams are similarly. And it's funny, Joy and I've talked about this from time to time. You know, if you go to Indianapolis, Paul George is the biggest deal in town. And he probably feels

that. I remember when Shaq got traded to the Lakers, he lived on the butler chain in Orlando. It's beautiful lakes. And I can remember talking to somebody in Shaq's circle. And they were like, he's just too big for Orlando. It's too much. He couldn't go, he couldn't do anything. Like people were hovering over his house. And, Like your USC team, the Rams have a very star-driven culture. But there are so many stars, everybody kind of keeps in check. Like they're never in the news. Aaron Donald, Matt Stafford, like USC's practices, Rams practices,

when you're in this world of seven or eight like brands, what does it do to practice? Well, it turns up the intensity. And everybody has that, when you become that good of a player, you reach a certain status type thing and you can recognize those other guys on your team, then it's, there's kind of like this unspoken rule of just, I need your best, you're going to get my best. If I don't look right, come talk to me. Like, let's figure this out, but everybody needs to see us. When your, when your best players are your hardest workers, that's when you have real success. And I've heard McVeigh say that about these guys all the time. That's the way it was at SC. That's the way it was early in

those first two years with the Jets. Best players were the vets that were really good. And they would grind and push each other and challenge each other. And that makes practice competitive. And when you get it competitive, you know how guys are especially just all we need is a score or time limit. Right. Okay, you got my attention. What do I have to do? You know, how many times are we going to try and throw this piece of trash in the trash can waiting for our, you know, meeting to start? And guys get competitive about that stuff. And then people start betting. And it's like, all right, let's go, you know? Yeah. And those are the best environments because everybody wants to win. you recognize there's a shared struggle

and when times get tough, it's never personal. You know, it's never you can get after a guy or rip a guy and it's not, you know, I don't like you as a person, I just need your best on the field and that's special when you have that. You can tell the Rams are like that. It transcends football. They're a family.

Families fight. Families have issues but your family and it's our side of the street versus everybody else kind of. Well, and Pete Carroll was very good at harnessing that. Oh, he fostered that environment. So Sean McVeigh, So what's the secret sauce for? Because listen, if it was always about stars, then we'd have a lot more ram stories.

This is a rare. What does a coach have to do with a lot of stars? Yeah, it's the right personalities and managing them and understanding, you know, I've heard the analogy, ants and roaches. Like there's going to be guys who are a little different than you, act a little different, you know, listen to different music, hang with different people. you might not like their way of life, but you got to respect them. And when they're on your team, they're your teammate. So we got to get it right.

And sometimes those really good players have a lot of stuff going on off the field. Sure. So you can only handle so many of those guys. So many ants can only handle so many roaches. Right. You know what I mean? But some of those roaches are damn good football players.

So whatever it takes to get them... Well, you had big personalities. So I'm saying, whatever it takes to get him to Sunday or in college, whatever it takes to get him to Saturday, if you've got to walk the guy to class, if you've got to check his homework, if you got, you know, whatever it takes to keep these guys eligible or, you know,

ready for the next adventure. Yeah. You got to do it. And, you know, it's not always like problem guys, but certain guys have trouble getting places on time and all that stuff. You know what's interesting about the Rams? Whatever it takes, man. Cooper Cup, overlooked in recruiting.

Aaron Donald overlooked in recruiting. Von Miller ended up going to Texas A&M, not Texas. Stafford, 13 years in Detroit. The Rams gave you a very unique thing. Stars who were doubted. And like they all have a chip, right? They all have a chip on their shoulder. And there's something to be said for that because they're working for something.

They're proving somebody wrong every day. There's incentive for something, you know. And like I said, those guys, you've got to challenge. Your best players got to challenge each other. And then everybody else will get in line. All right. L.A. Rams Super Bowl champs. Is it hard after a championship is going to be a hangover maybe?

Listen, I've never made it to that game, and we obviously didn't win it, but, you know, it's such a gut punch when you don't get where you wanted to go. Now having that success, you know, I'm curious because now they've been on both sides of this. Some of those players, you know, even McVeigh, he'll know exactly what it's like losing the game and then winning it. So moving forward, I think, you know, you get a little time to celebrate. Would you take a month off? Yeah, I mean, at least give your body a little time to rest. You give six weeks of...

But you just, you know, go for a bike ride, go swim, go do something. You know, you can't do, like, literally nothing and just sit on the couch just because I needed to be active. But these guys, like, for OBJ next year, what are you going to do, right? Like, he's going to have to get his knee repaired, like, maybe sign a one-year deal. They're going to have some serious issues, like contract-wise, trying to keep all these guys together. So, you know, it'll be interesting to see.

But I'm just so happy for Matt Stafford. I really think he deserves it. Joy knows my love for Matt's effort. Right. Players love Matt. Everybody loves Matt. He's... No drama.

No, no drama. Just works his butt off. You know, smiling, having a good time, and the dude can just flat out ball. That no look... I'm telling you, that was so... In the Super Bowl, like, game-winning drive, come on, man. That's like everything you dream of as a kid. Like, I'm so...

Like, I can't explain my excitement and, you know, he's got to be just so fulfilled. You know, that's a big deal for him. Mark Sanchez, great stuff. Speak for yourself around the corner on a Monday live in LA. It's The Herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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