The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 3 - Rankings

Episode Date: September 30, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:48 Today, an hour three. I'm so excited for Greg Kosell because I have so many legitimate questions. He joins us now live. So I was saying with Matt Stafford in the rank, is that there's fewer tricks, there's fewer deception, there's less play action. There is a lot more, my eyes tell me, a lot more straight drop and let her go. We got a lot of good receivers. And I looked up a next-gen stat today, and they are doing.
Starting point is 00:03:12 All right. Let's hear it. Yeah, they're doing, they went from 33% play action to 24, 25. So they're doing a little less play action stuff and more throwing it with Matt. First of all, what do you make against with Stafford and Tampa? And what do you make about that stat? Well, it's interesting you mention that because one of the things that's really stood out watching the tape, which of course can't have play action, is they lead the NFL in empty sets through three games. They're putting Stafford in empty sets.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Sometimes as they did this week against Tampa, they go with four receivers to one side, very difficult to defend. So it's a four by one set. But what empty sets do, everybody immediately says, well, it makes the defense declare before the snap. That's one thing it does for sure, but also defenses will play empty sets in certain ways. You know what you're going to get. There's a tendency predictability of coverage when you line up in empty sets. And Stafford, and this is not talked about a lot, Colin, but Stafford is incredibly smart. And so when you get a tendency predictability of coverage, then Stafford can go to work.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And the route concepts, of course, with Sean McVeigh are so good, both attacking man coverage with a lot of bunch concepts, attacking zone coverage with two, three, and even four-man route combinations. They're just really, really good with a quarterback now that is just a high-level thrower. All right. We saw Justin Herbert with a bad O line, not win a bunch of games, but set some rookie records. Now we get Justin Herbert with a new coaching system and a very solid offensive line. What is the film say with a young Chargers phenom quarterback?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Well, you know what? It's interesting to me watching Herbert because he's playing exactly the way most of us thought he was not going to do when he came out of Oregon because he's playing with a very refined feel for the timing and rhythm of the passing game. He gets the ball out to the right receiver at the right time. He does not wait in the pocket to see if something downfield develops unless it's a called downfield throw or a shot play. He almost looks robotic and mechanical at times in a good way, Colin. He plays incredibly efficiently. You know, he's not one of those guys that sits and sits and gets stuck in the pocket. The ball comes out. Yeah. So Aaron Rogers, a two-pass drive. It is amazing. It is crazy. He throws off his back foot on every play now,
Starting point is 00:05:44 and it's just accepted. It's his own style. You know, I thought Green Bay was the more physical, better team. I thought they should have won. I thought Garoppolo's drive was underrated. We didn't want to talk about that, but let's just talk Aaron against San Francisco. What did you see you like? Yeah, I, you know, I've been doing this a long time, Colin, and maybe I'm jaded sometimes, but he made two throws in that game that, to me, were ridiculous. The 12-yard touchdown, he threw to Valdez Scaling early in the fourth quarter on what we call a double-smash route, double-smash concept.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, it's not just the throw. I don't know how many guys would even think about that as the throw and turn it loose, and it was just an unbelievable throw. And then, of course, the first one to start the final game-winning drive, that throw was ridiculous. Another throw, I don't know if there's two other guys in the NFL that would have actually turned that loose. I mean, Fred Warner got incredible depth as an underneath defender way deeper than you would teach anybody. He missed it by five inches. But just making the throw, turning it loose was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You know, he's the last two weeks, he's throwing the ball exceptionally well. Well, so is Josh Allen again after a bumpy first week. Now, there are times accuracy can be an issue with him. It was at college. It was early. But do you see him reverting back to what you saw in his best moments last year after a bumpy opening week? Yeah, this game was like last year.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Again, you know, this is what we have so far this season, two games where he struggled with his ball location. And then this past week against Washington, where he played like the Allen of 2020. strong mix of pocket efficiency and second reaction playmaking. He was much more precise with his ball placement than he had been in the first two games. It started actually with his first throw with the game. But he's such a strong thrower.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You know, he's another guy that he won't always throw with his feet set. I think that's just the way he is. You mentioned that about Rogers. I think Alan is one of those guys that there are just times he's not going to throw with his feet set. And that's the way he is. but his arm, I mean, his talent level, because of his size. You know, I'm not going to sit here and say he's a better thrower than Mahomes or Rogers, but he's 6.5-240.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And that kind of size is a trait. Yeah, that's right. Okay, you're probably going to say nice stuff with Kirk Cousins, and he has these games where he's unstoppable, but he drives me necks because the brighter the lights get, the more he shrinks, but he tore up to Seahawks. You know, where do you land? I mean, let's take the Seahawks game, but where do you land? today on Kirk Cousins? You know, it's a great question. I mean, you know, I don't know
Starting point is 00:08:27 Kirk Cousins. I've had people tell me things. I'm not going to go there because that's nothing I know personally and I would never do that. But when you watch him play within the context of the offense that he's asked to run, he's an extremely efficient player. It's an offense that starts with the run game, predominantly outside zone. They're really good with play action, play action boot. It defines reads for him. It defines throws for him. He's willing to make difficult throws in critical situations. Does he always make them? No, but he's willing to.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So there's an efficiency to his game. I don't know what's in his head. So I can't speak to when he gets into the games that, you know, people always say they're big games, you know. So that's a hard thing for me to address. But he's been an extremely efficient player within the context of that offense since he's been there. Yeah. Ask Pete Carroll.
Starting point is 00:09:19 He carved him up. All right. Justin that Justin field mess, who do we blame? What the film said? Well, you know, all I can tell you is what the tape showed. I don't get into the other stuff. So what they tried to do was they tried to feature quick game throws as the foundation. Quick game throws meaning three step drops, quick five step drops, where the ball comes out, there's not a lot of reading involved. It's basically a one read throw. They wanted to create opportunities for him to get the ball out quick. there are times he did that there are times he didn't throw it um i know people have said there should have been more play action boot the first design movement play came on his seventh drop back could it have come earlier maybe but after watching that tape at this point in time this is not a statement calling about his whole career we don't know what he will become at this point in time he doesn't see things very well he was locked in on reeds he didn't show any real sense of being able to
Starting point is 00:10:19 eliminate what's not there, isolate where he should go. He played both too fast at times and too hesitant and other times. He does not yet have an innate sense and innate feel for what open means in the NFL. All right. Sam Darnold went from awful to, oh, wow, he's 3 and 0. I'm a huge fan of Matt Ruh and Joe Brady where a lot of his throws, people are schemed open. I mean, not everybody's covered.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Now, he's made some difficult throws, but I really trust this group of coaches he's surrounded by. Now, Dallas is a much faster defense this year. They found a great, very fast defense. So this is going to be no, and he didn't have McCaffrey, but just kind of take me through darn old Cowboys defense. What do you project happens? What's the tape say? Well, it's funny you mention that about the Cowboys defense, much faster, much more active, much more multiple with their front look. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:14 They're starting to move around Parsons and Gregory, who have. standing up in what we call Joker positions moving around. So they've got some speed, some bends, some quickness. Darnold has improved greatly. They've helped them. You hit it right on the head. The reeds are much more defined. Receivers are there for him to throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I think he's starting to get a little better in the pre-snap phase, noticing fronts, recognizing when he needs to change a protection. He's a great example. You spoke before I came on about these young quarterbacks. He's in his fourth year. you know, it takes time. He's learning. I'm not going to sit here and tell you he's now going to be great, Colin, who knows. But you can see incremental learning along with a system that is helping him with define reads and throws. Yep. All right, Joe Burrell's on TV tonight. That means I'll be watching
Starting point is 00:12:05 Burrell against Trevor Lawrence. I'm going to take Joe. I'm going to take Joe Burrell there. I do think he has a he has a calmness. He has a confidence. I like the way he throws the ball. I mean, my eyes just tell me The kid's going to make it. He's going to make. I don't know the level, but I compared him when he was a college quarterback. I said he feels like Tony Romo a little bit to me. He can move. He can throw.
Starting point is 00:12:28 He plays with confidence. I'm not sure. Maybe he's a little better natural thrower, but what do you make a burrow? Well, you got good eyes, Colin, probably better than mine because I'm wearing glasses. But he's very refined. He's one of those guys that came into the league with a pretty refined sense of timing and rhythm in the past game. the ball comes out and I'll tell you what he's throwing the ball with a little more juice this year yeah you know he'll never be a power to thrower he'll never be Matthew stafford but he's throwing the
Starting point is 00:12:55 ball with a little more juice this year and that shows up on tape and he has a sense of being able to read and go through progressions and they have a lot of weapons and that leads us of course to the play that we wanted to show this week which was a touchdown pass he threw to Jamar chase from a week go. So we can take a look at that play, which, you know, for a lot of people just saw the play, it just looked like an easy touchdown. But there was an interesting part to this play. And what happened on this play essentially was this was four receivers were going to work to one side of the field, the boundary side of the formation. And that was what the initial read was. And the Steelers were playing cover one. That means they had a single high safety and they were playing man to man on all
Starting point is 00:13:39 five receivers. So as this play begins, what happens is Borough is looking to his left. That's the boundary side of the formation. There's four receivers there. That was the initial progression read. He didn't have anything. What did he have on the backside? He had Jamar Chase working one-on-one against Joe Hayden. And actually, Chase makes an unbelievable move on his route. This is beautiful route running by Chase. Now, obviously, the protection is critical here because you need time to work one side of the field come back to the other. You could see him look left, nothing there, knows he has Chase one-on-one versus Hayden, comes back to it, easy throw, touchdown. And the one thing that really stood out to me on this play as well as Burrow was watch Jamar Chase. Look at him, beat a veteran-quality corner
Starting point is 00:14:29 with nuanced, detailed route running. Really good. He got Hayden turned around, and he's wide open. So this is an offense that's going to keep getting better and better, Colin, because they've got personnel. If their O-line can be solid, and by the way, I think Barrows the kind of quarterback that can help an O-line with his sense of timing and refinement in the pocket. Yeah, I like to watch him play. That's the best compliment I can give a quarterback. I like watching. He's a craftsman. He's got some real skills here.
Starting point is 00:14:57 He's got good feet. He moves. Yeah. I mean, he's fun to watch play. I agree. Yeah. And at times he makes it look really easy when he gets some. decent protection. So Greg Kossel, 42 years, NFL film so much good stuff today. Thank you,
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Starting point is 00:18:54 your podcast. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. What? Remember when I was saying that the dolphins should just offer anything and everything to try and trade up and get Joe Burrow? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Everyone told me I was crazy. That's right. It's too much to give up for him. Now, you just watch him. Every other day. There's a conversation about Deshawn Watson. When you watch Joe Burrow tonight, and Herbert's got a little bit of this, when his protection's good, watch how easy he makes it feel. It's almost as if Joe is just kind of playing.
Starting point is 00:19:32 he's just kind of play. It's like a, it's like college or high school. He doesn't get tight. Because he has a natural confidence to him. You can watch him play. He's a fun guy to watch. You can tell he trusts his feet. He trusts his arm. There is, it's not a swagger. I don't know what the word is. But when I, I said, it's a confidence. By the second game as a pro, I said, that's going to work. You can just tell, Romo had that. You could tell very early. Tony totally trusted his feet, his arm, his playmaking. He'd make a bad pick and Tony didn't care. He'd. I want to say it was, Jordan Palmer that told us that. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:20:04 I think so. All right. I don't want to misquote him, but I feel like he's the one that said that he just has, even recovering from the surgery is why I never have any questions about that coming back. There's just an innate self-sustaining confidence that they play with and they just don't
Starting point is 00:20:20 have a panic to their game. So Kyrie Irving is an NBA champ and a seven-time All-Star, but he might have a little bit too much going on to have any sort of appeal to other teams, according to Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix on. podcast. He said that the Nets Guard might be seen as a negative trade asset around the league. He said the Nets are kind of painted into a corner. They can't really trade him. I was asking around to a couple teams just for their opinion on the trade value of Kyrie Irving. It's virtually zero. I mean, he makes $35 million this year and he's unpredictable as you get.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So why would you give up anything of value to get him back in return? So Durant's kind of trapped now. Because unfortunately, Durant's a total gamer, Hardin, may have driven people crazy, but he was all in last year. And why? wildly effective. This was always my knock. You traded Steph for Kyrie. The hardened stuff I didn't know if it would work. I'm wrong. It worked. Harden Durant is great. My takeaway on this, I said this last year. Kyrie is the rare star. I would massively lose a trade. If you gave me a draft pick and a good bench guy, I just want him out of the room. I think it's chaos with it. Well, I mean, that's why it's kind of difficult to trade him now. Because he does have
Starting point is 00:21:32 unpredictable nature to how he goes about his career. And look, I don't, if Kyrie doesn't want to play this year, doesn't want to get vaccinated and doesn't want to play, it's like, it's not changing my life. Yeah. Do I want him to play? Do I want to see the three of them healthy together in Brooklyn and see how that all works out? Yes, of course. But there's this idea that like, almost that Kyrie has created that it's always like this
Starting point is 00:21:53 attack on him. And it's, you are what you habitually do. You got out of Cleveland's. Yeah. Then he went to Boston, didn't work in Boston. and I defended him in Boston because I'm like, you have a star, try and make it work, didn't work. Now you're in Brooklyn and you're talking about missing all of your home games. So at one point or another, like you can say like, okay, it's not about basketball.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Then it's not about basketball. And it's fair for people to say that. And I don't care if you're all in on basketball or you live your life and basketball is your job or any of that. But if you are trying to win a championship, that's not conducive to that. I've dealt with difficult people. I've dealt with people that Arnaud was as serious as I'd like. But if you ever kind of move into a crazy town place, there's not a lot I can do. And with him right now, with Kyrie is, I mean, the world is flat two years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And it's like, where are we going with this stuff? Like, where are we going? I just don't know. Unpredictable and indifferent. And I don't think that Kyrie is a bad guy. Kyrie does great things in the community. He seems to get along with all of his teammates overall. I don't think he, it's not about that.
Starting point is 00:23:01 It's not like villainizing it, the situation. But it is a distraction and it is a big deal that you're having these conversations leading into a season where everyone is healthy and you're trying to win a championship. Like this is something. Of course. There's something to this. So Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are in three, will be facing off tonight against Joe Burrow and the Bengals who are now two and one. And with Burrow and Lawrence starting, it marks just the second starting quarterback. matchup in the common era of the last two number one overall picks.
Starting point is 00:23:34 The only other instance was Kyler Murray, when he faced Baker Mayfield and the Browns in 2019. Let me guess the headline tomorrow. Urban Myers terrible. Jacksonville's going to lose. Jacksonville is going to lose. Yes. It doesn't bother me that they're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:23:49 If you're competitive and close, I'm fine with it. Be competitive. What I'm looking forward in this season from Jacksonville is growth. And that's why I'm very interested in this game. because although the Bengals are obviously better than Jacksonville at this point, you know, there is something to this matchup. This feels like a matchup that Jacksonville should show a little bit in. And I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I think that everyone's overreacting a little bit to the Urban Lawrence thing. Like, yes, it was obviously a great story leading into the season, but the expectations should have been low in this situation. And it's because obviously Urban had a legendary college career. So he's not a young coach, but he is a new NFL. coach. And there is something to that. The game is tonight and the Bengals are favored by 7 and a half on
Starting point is 00:24:34 Fox Bet. Can't wait to watch. I'll be home with chicken parr. Just chicken parr tonight? Absolutely. Chicken parm tonight watching the entire snaps. Well, either start the chicken parm during halftime because it makes you sleepy. It makes me. I'm out. I'll be going to bed at 8.40 tonight, max. It's 8.Easter.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's 8.E.S.com. So the Cardinals face off against the Rams this weekend. And Cliff Kingsbury is looking forward to seeing Matthew Stafford up close and personal. Matthew Stafford's armed talent, you know, being from Texas, I watched him when he was in high school. It's legendary. I mean, he is a freak show at that position,
Starting point is 00:25:08 and his skill sets really getting a chance to show in Sean's offense. I mean, it's working through three games. Pass the rating of 129.8 that's second only to Russell Wilson, averaging 10 yards per attempt, also only trills Wilson and has nine touchdown passes only behind Tom Brady. and of course he's been sacked three times in three games. So he's getting excellent protection. Excellent protection.
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Starting point is 00:29:56 colon.com. All right, Joy, we're going to play a game of conclusion or illusion. So you're going to give me the standings of each division. And are we looking at something real? This is the conclusion. Or is it a mirage and things will eventually change as we embark tonight on week four? All right. The AFC East, conclusion or illusion? Well, it's Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets. This is a conclusion. It's a quarterback league, and the bills have the best point differential in the league at plus 50. They have an offense averaging over 31 a game, and Josh Allen is the only quarterback in the division with a passer rating above 80. So if it's a quarterback league and you have a competent coach, you're going to
Starting point is 00:30:48 win your division. The order, the jets will be last. The bills will be first. The rest of it I don't care about. AFC West, conclusion or illusion? This is illusion. The Raiders have won two games in overtime. That usually evens itself out. And the Broncos wins are against teams that are 0 and 9. Let's talk about the Chiefs. They've led in 65 straight games. And the Chiefs are six and one in their last seven games. So they're a play away from being a two and one football team. I am going to say the Chiefs will not finish last. This is an illusion.
Starting point is 00:31:28 AFC North conclusion or illusion? It has the Bengals and first Ravens Brown Steelers. This is an illusion. The Bengals have been outgained this year. That's a big stat for betters. The Browns have outgained their opponents by 500 yards. So Cincinnati, it's very difficult, despite having a good quarterback, to be outgained and pushed around and to remain viable. The Ravens and the Browns are going to move ahead of the Bengals here rather quickly.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I do think the Steelers are worse than even I thought. I had them at eight and nine. But the Browns and the Ravens are going to move ahead of Cincinnati quickly. How about the AFC South? Well, Tennessee currently leads, and then it's a bunch of nonsense. I think I could make the argument. This is a conclusion. Now, it may not be in the perfect order, but the Texans and Jags are now starting like kids at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The Titans are the only AFC South team above 500, and the only team in that division, again, this is important, that is outgain their opposition. It's not just wins and losses. Like Cleveland is out gaining everybody. The Titans are outgaining everybody. That tells you the Titans are a real team. Now, I don't think the Colts will finish last, but Carson Wentz has multiple ankle injuries. He will not remain healthy when he comes back for 14 weeks. I have concluded that Wence's health is still a massive problem,
Starting point is 00:32:53 especially when you consider his reckless style of play. NFC East, conclusion or illusion? Right now, the Cowboys lead, only team with the winning record. I would say that's conclusion. So there's a couple of things playing in the Cowboys' favor. They are the only team in that division to outscore their opponents, which tells you right now they're the only competent team in the league. they have the highest graded offense joy in the entire league, so it's not a mirage.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They have the best turnover differential in the NFL that tells you they have a veteran quarterback deck, who I think makes very good decisions in terms of when to kill a play, when to go to the right receiver. So what it tells you in an offensive league is, and I do think Washington still got a lot of football left, but when you are the highest graded, you don't turn the ball over, you're clearly better defensively. I think the standings are going to look something. close to this. I still think the Eagles finish
Starting point is 00:33:44 and last. NFC. West. It's an illusion. I think Arizona. Kyler Murray is one of three quarterbacks in the league to throw a pick every game. Right now, it's a little bit of a honeymoon. It's working. Everything's working. Their schedule gets much tougher. They're underdogs at the Rams this weekend.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I also think Russell Wilson currently in last has, they've blown two 10-point plus lead. So Seattle is leading and controlling games and then evaporates down the stretch. So Seattle's not going to finish in last place. I think Arizona pulls back a little. I don't, I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams won their division,
Starting point is 00:34:24 but it will not look like that. NFC North. This is an easy one. This is the easiest one in the league. This is a conclusion. Green Bay is the best team. Bears have the second worst offense in the league. The Lions coach eats kneecaps,
Starting point is 00:34:39 and they're just not a great football team, especially on the defensive end. They give up big chunks when they shouldn't. And the Vikings have a very low ceiling with Kirk Cousins. We know that. So this is the easiest one. Green Bay, by the way, this is important. The Packers have increased their passing yards and rushing yards in each game.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So regardless of if it's the weird off-season or not, you can see very gradually Green Bay is getting back into form. They are gradually improving every weekend. NFC. South. Now, right now the Panthers lead. So I'm going to say it's a conclusion, not because the Panthers are going to win it. But there's things happening here that tell you the Panthers are going to be viable. They have the number one defense in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Unless they have injuries, they're going to be in every game. So you're not going to ask Darnold to win shootouts. Darnold's going to be able to play mostly like he's been playing this year, and they're going to win a bunch of games. Tampa's going to be fine. They'll be at the top. You're seeing something with the Saints that's trouble. They've only had three, quote, big plays this year.
Starting point is 00:35:40 year. This is something we talked about in preseason. They got no playmakers. I mean, they got, they have, so they need perfect drives. Well, Joy, James Winston's not, you get a lot of, you get a lot of big with James. You don't get a lot of efficiency. So they don't, they don't have big plays. And that you're relying now on a lot of 12 play drives and brilliance. That's not going to win. And in terms of Atlanta, they have a negative point differential of minus 46 through three weeks. That's bad. So it's going to look something like that. Carolina, barring injuries on the defense is going to win a lot of football games.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They do not have to put Darnold in shootouts. They'll lose to Dallas, but it's not going to be 3328. They don't have to play that way. Perform it your best with MDrive, the supplement for driven men, free shipping, 60-day money-back guarantee. Go to MDrive for Men.com. Lean up, get muscle, proteins, nutrients. We'll see you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite,
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