The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - The 49ers contract issue

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

Fox Sports NFL analyst Bucky Brooks joins the show in studio to tell Colin how the 49ers should handle their contract issue with All Pro LT Trent WilliamsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com, or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox SportsPathes. Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. The very well-connected Fox Sports NFL analyst, former player, former scout, Panthers and Seahawks. Catch Bucky Brooks on Speak Today at 5 Eastern on FS1. So we're going to dig deep on some of this stuff. So here's a prime example where I didn't know this until five minutes ago with you,

is that I said somebody, a former NFL quarterback, pretty good player, really good player, came to me about two months ago. And he said, don't be surprised if J.J. McCarthy and Bo Nix, because of their coach, aren't really good really quickly. He said, and be very careful about Caleb Jaden and Drake May, defensive coaches, especially in New England. So he said, a lot of this stuff for rookie quarterbacks is situational, like offensive coach, more risk-taking, more supportive.

And he said, go back to Mahomes first couple years when he'd get into the weeds mechanically. Andy'd bring him right back. You have a defensive head coach. That may not be the case. You'll get bad habits. So I want to start with Drake May, because my thing is, I don't care who gets drafted there.

This is an uphill climb. And then you told me something during the break, which I didn't know, which is why we should be patient with Drake May. Yeah, so anyone who dug into Drake May's background, you have to understand. Like Drake May, I went to North Carolina. His father was in North Carolina before I went there.

So he comes from a family of Baltimore. but where he went to high school in Charlotte, like it's full of like former balder's kids and those things. But he didn't get a chance to play his final season because of COVID. He then goes to North Carolina. He's playing behind Sam Howell. So he went to first year. He was not playing.

Yeah, without playing. So then he played, had a great redshirt freshman year, sophomore year. Then he played his final season. But those two seasons, so of the last four seasons, he's only played two of them. He only logged 26 starts during his time.

And so to have crazy expectations, for a player who hasn't played a lot. Look, it's not doing them justice. And also, if you're the Patriots, you have to understand that. That's why you haven't heard them talk about the rush to put them on the field. They talked about Jacoby Brissette being able to go and play and those things. But also know this, Elliot Wolf, who is the son of Ron Wolf, and they all spend a lot of time in the Packers organization. We're sitting here now talking about Joy and Love and their developmental model.

Their developmental model is much like old school. quarterback sits, he waits, he learns, he waits, he learns, and then when he gets an opportunity, he's ready for that opportunity. So be patient with Drake, May. It may be a minute before we really see him on the field playing. What are realistic expectations? You watch probably every Caleb Williams start. Now, he goes from a highly creative, offensive coach, kind of a risk taker, to a defensive coach in the hot seat in a big media market

with an offensive line that's not as bad as advertised, but it may be ascending, but it's a work in progress. What's realistic, numbers, wins, how do you view him? Well, I think the Bears have an opportunity to close the gap on the competition. But I'm going to say this. That division is tougher than anyone anticipated. Detroit is legit. The Packers are good, and Minnesota is going to be feisty,

because you talked about Kevin O'Connell and what he can do. The Bears have a team that on paper already should be in that 8-10 model based on how the defense finished, the weapons that they added on offense, Roma Dunesay, Keenan Allen, you have DJ Moore coming back. So there's firepower there. The thing that you need from Caleb is, hey man, I don't need spectacular Caleb. I just need you to distribute a ball. Let the playmakers do the work.

If he plays within himself and plays kind of like Heisman Caleb, look, his number should be solid. I wouldn't say 4,000 yards, but I would think anywhere from 3,000 to 3,500 yards, maybe 20 to 25 touchdowns, that would be a solid rookie season for Caleb Williams. But I don't expect them to be an aerial circus that puts all of it on his shoulders. I expect them still to lean towards the defense.

You talked about Iberflis, they're going to score points, but I still think they're going to try and play complimentary football to allow the defense to kind of set the table for the offense. When you were breaking down his game in college, a lot of high leverage games, Is there anything that worries you about Caleb? I would say he gets, look,

gunslingers are funny because you need to let them go to the line, but then you need to be able to bring them back. And so what makes him great is his ability to create outside of the structure of the offense. He's terrific in that. But can he play within the confines of the offense? It's one thing to be running around and all over the place, making plays is another thing to play it as scripted.

Because in the National Football League, the best guys can play on the script and give you a little off-the-script. He doesn't need to venture off-the-script just to make plays because he's comfortable. Can he be patient and disciplined enough to take what the defense is giving him? And then in those high-pressure moments, then venture outside the pocket to make the special plays happen. So, you know, my friend John Midlakov and now we're talking about this is that Tua's contract is interesting. I am not a huge DAC fan. I love his EQ, his IQ, his adult. DAC is the best podium quarterback since Brady.

Eli was good at this. Talk didn't say much. Jeter's all time at that New York. But I think there's some limitations throwing the ball. Chua throws a pretty ball, but this league is defined by December, January, and February games. And I look at that contract. Forget the injuries.

And I'm like, the AFC's best teams are all north. If you look at two as numbers under just 50 degrees, not under 30, under 50, it's close to not be in backup stuff. So I look at that number and I think, is that a number the ghost of Dan Marino? Hey, we'll be viable, we'll win games, we'll be exciting. But that's a lot of money for somebody that I don't see in January going, to Cincinnati, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo. I mean, what did you make of that contract?

Well, look, it's the going rate. I knew when Trevor Lawrence got $55 million, that Tua and everyone else was going to come in at that number, because that's the going rate for the young emerging quarterback. For Turing and talking about Lola, it was important for the dolphins to get him done because everything that they've done is really built this offense around Tua in the strengths of his game.

He is a guy that kind of is the black that, Jack Diller that deals at the casino. Quick, quick, quick, quick, ball comes out, gets into a cast of playmakers that are fast, and they make it happen. When you talk about the inclement weather and the road to the championship

having to go through those cold weather cities, whenever they know that, it's really important for Miami. They need to get out the fast starts. They need to chalk up wins. No question. And see if they can get homefield advantage. They are a team that needs to play

like the Indianapolis Colts played when Peyton Manning was there. in the dome, you want home games, you don't want to go on the road. It's really important that Mike McDaniel figures out a way to get this team off the fast starts. So in the postseason, they're playing in South Florida. Because that's where it comes to Tyreek Hill, talked to him a week ago, and he talked about, hey, man, we can't go to these cold weathered things in the playoffs. We have to learn from that.

We have to get games at home. So I think you'll see them really make a push to try and get home field, not only for the first round, but for the second round. Let's see if we can make the road to the store. Super Bowl go through South Florida. That would help. Bo Nick, Sean Payton. Did you like the pick?

Do you like the fit? What's your forecast? I like the pick and I like to pick because Bo Nick's had the most experience of any quarterback that we've seen come through the draft process. 64 starts. If you can imagine just how much experience, good, bad, that he's going through that. He understands that the other part that I think is a good fit. when you talk to Bo Necks

super mature not very emotional when it comes to his play. He's a professional. You kind of understand that it's everything to him. Son of a coach has all of that going for you. And then you put him with Sean Payton. And for Sean Payton, I'm sure, he's

looking at Drew Breed's the best quarterback that he had up under him. He wanted somebody that was similar that could give him the coach on the field that could operate in that short intermediate passing game, but was the athletic enough to extend plays. Bo Nix can do all of those things.

Now it's on Sean to be able to access what his young quarterback can do and put him in a situation where he can play to his strengths. If he does that and if they're able to run the football, Bo Nix will have success from day one. So I've watched two coaches bail on Russell

Wilson. Very respected coaches. Mike Tomlin tends to be very much a player's coach. He's got his guys back. And that's a young locker room, right? They expect some draft picks to play. I can foresee a situation where Justin is really liked in that locker room. And if you look at that schedule, like nine on, there are two game losing streaks. Like, it's brutal. Is Justin, to the very last game, Bucky,

in Chicago, losing was loved. Guys, and they knew they were get Caleb. And they were all like, no, we're Justin guys. So there's clearly something. think there's a relatability. He's not rich. Russell is. Russell's the icon. I've seen in two locker rooms. Russell not necessarily connect with other stars. This feels like a little bit of a powder keg. Calf injury.

Justin getting starts. Guys watching is hyper-athleticism. How's this going to play out in your opinion? Man, that's the thing. Like, Russell had pole position because I think that's what Mike Turner talked about. He had pole position coming in. But the injury opened the door. for Justin Fields to get reps against the number one defense.

Everything that you're hearing out of there, ignore what the coaches are saying. Listen to what the players are saying. Patrick Queen talking about his athleticism, how he's dealing inside the pocket, but also the athleticism outside of it. The de-coordinated, Terrell Austin, talking about, man, this has been so good because he's getting us ready to play Lamar Jackson. Like, think about that. Like, that's a compliment for them to talk about,

not that he's Lamar Jackson, but for them to say that this is getting us ready to play a two-time MVP. He's doing something in practice that is catching their eye. For Russell, when Russell gets back, Russell has to find a way to close that off, to kind of shut that off. So he can't give them a reason. If it's close, you go to the young guy.

And so Russell has to come back, and he has to fire on all cylinders. The offense has to look different when he's in there. If not, there are going to be guys that look towards Justin and say, hey, coach, we might as well give the young guy the ball and let's go. We may need to run it more. It may look different. But there's something that he has done to catch the eyes of the defense.

So you're listening to the players. Players always tell you the truth about what they think on the players. Because the players don't have an agenda when it comes to other players. They want the best player. And when the defense talks about just in the way they have, you just don't glow over somebody just to make him feel good. There's something that he's doing in practice that makes them feel like if he was playing, they would have a shot to win.

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Search Learn the hard way and listen now. So there's, you know, we were talking about this with Brandon Ayuk, obviously a great player. But I said earlier, if you asked me the 10 most valuable people with the Niners, I actually think Christian McCaffrey and Shanahan, I think Debo and Kiddley and, physicality. Trent Williams may be more valuable than all of them.

I said it earlier that if Trent Williams announced that I'm retiring, they're host. They're in big trouble. If Brandon Ayuk said, I'm not playing, Debo, Christian,

Kiddle, cowling the kid from Arizona, Pierce Hall, like, they can win games. So this is not a shot at Brandon I, you. It's not a criticism.

But people confuse, Bucky, talented, and valuable. Yeah. And I look at Ike and I'm like, okay, young man, first two years, we weren't sure. Good third year, great fourth. I get San Francisco holding kind of firm on this. Am I wrong? No, they should hold firm. So if we think about the pecking order of who should get paid on that list.

That's just my opinion. No, no, but on that list because they're guys that need to get paid. Trim Williams has to get paid. He has to get paid right now. Right now. Brought Purdy has to get paid significantly after the season. So if you're the Niners and you're looking, we have Bramian. Brandon and Iyuk on a fifth year option. We don't have to do anything. All the language in the CBA is in the Niners' favor. So they don't have to do anything.

Yeah, like, and they're playing nice because they're letting them hold in. They don't have to do that. So they have to make a decision on what's the number. And if it exceeds that number, they have to be like, okay, well, we can either trade them or whatever. But here's the number. Because when you look at their team and the way they're constructed, you're right. Chris McCaffrey is most valuable. You have brought pretty.

Trim Williams. They're other guys. And he's a very valuable and impactful player for them. But how much are they willing to pay? Look, they can go Devonte Smith numbers, $26,000, but are you going to pay him 35 and then pay Debo a ton of money? That's where the rub comes in. And I know he wants to get paid. He deserves to get paid. But the Niners also have to look at this. When we pay

Brock Purdy, how many big money players can't we continue to keep? And who's going to to be the next iteration of the Niners because, look, is this year and next year, then they're going to have to flip this team in a way? And so is Brandon Nyuk part of that nucleus? If he is, what number do we need to pay him to ensure that he's a part of it for the long haul? Yeah, it is. I used the comp earlier.

I said, when Cooper Cup has missed games, the Rams have been fine. When Andrew Whitworth left, they were a tire fire for about two years. years up front, is that Whitworth, like Williams, could have played, but he had 100 plus million, smart guy, worried about his body, Trent's a bright guy, that people, we all knew McVeigh was brilliant. Despite that, when Whitworth left, it all came crashing down. And I think, because, you know, again, Stafford had some injuries. Pertie's not a big body. He's not Josh Allen or Big Ben or Cam. I think if Trent Williams retired tomorrow, I don't even think they're a Super Bowl. I don't think they're as viable as a franchise.

I still think they would be pretty good, but not as good as he is. Now, what I would say is he's a freak of nature. You shouldn't be 36 years old and still be the best tackle in the game. His feet. You shouldn't be able to move like that. And when you hear people talk about him, they talk about him playing pickup basketball. If Chairman Williams was on the floor, he's the point card. Like, he's that athletic. You just don't see guys do what he's able to do. And I think we might even take him for granted. You don't see a guy because I've seen him where they motioned They sent him across and he just earholes guys on the move. You don't see guys disathletic, disnasty that set the tone.

Carl Shanahan and John Lynch certainly understand what they have in him. He's the priority. You need to get him done first. Then you go address the wire receiver. But Trent Williams has to have his contract adjusted because the way that they paid other guys, including Tristan Wirks, who's a great player. But this dude is O-Tackle number one. He is the one that everyone is looking for in the draft.

So I'm not a conspiracy theorist. in a world where they're everywhere. I'm not. I'm not. No, I'm kind of a wet blanket to conspiracy theories. But I'll throw one out there. So Jerry Jones has trophies, three. And he loves Dak.

But the numbers don't lie. Is that when Dak came to the Cowboys, they had the best offensive line for about a five to six year period. Zeke was the best back, arguably in the league. He had an offensive coach, mentor, and Jason Garrett. And he didn't make any money, made Jerry a lot of money, but the sense was, I think Dack was a bit overvalued because I thought the team carried him more than they carried him. And then as they had to move off in Amari Cooper, the O-line aged, Dak had to throw more, Zeke aged. The numbers, the data became pretty clear that if you asked D.

To throw 40 or more, that's not the recipe. He's not Lamar, Josh. He's not that. And so in this off-season, they are so C.D. Lamb-reliant. They now have the worst running back room in the league, below average tight end room, and you cross your fingers on CD. And my take is Jerry, my conspiracy theory is Jerry's like, listen, I've got three rings. DAC makes me relevant.

But I want this team for both McCarthy and DAC. My next move is my last big one. I want to see you two without a great O line, without a number two, without a run. without a run game. It gives Jerry negotiating leverage and power. If DAC, interceptions, he's not rooting against that. He's rooting for him. But they have been so quiet in the last year.

Let players move. And it's like, it is a contract year. It's got a little feeling like, hey, I've got my trophies. I want another. But what I'm not going to do is give McCarthy another extension. DAC, a five-year deal at 64 a year. That's my conspiracy theory. Jerry's willing to take a mini step back to protect long-term the cap.

Maybe. Like, I mean, he's in the business of making money, so it's a business. Like, he wants to make money off the brand. It's one of the more popular brands, if not the most popular brand in the National Football League. I think they've misplayed their hand when it comes to Dak Prescott, because Dak, Prescott, they can't franchise him. He's going to make significant money. He's going to be in the $60 million range, whether the Cowboys pay him or someone else pays him.

But the Cowboys are kind of boxed in because it's not only paying him is you've got to pay DCD Lamb, top of the market money. You've got to pay Michael Parsons, top of the market money. And then potentially you're talking about Deck Prescott. So three guys commanding top of the market money really impacts your ability to build a team around Deck Prescott. So maybe this is another prove it year situation.

but I feel like they've done that three or four times with Jack Prescott. And every time, Dak Prescott has come out on the other side of it looking good. Look, I think part of this might be Dak saying, no, no, no, I'm good. There's never been somebody his age in the prime hit the market as a quarterback. And so we can say a lot of things, and people will say, oh, he's not top five.

I know this. He's top eight or better. So top eight quarterback that hits the market in a league that is driven by quarterback play, the Cowboys may not be able to afford him if he gets to the open market. And they may be fine. But my question would be to Jerry Jones, who's next? Who's the next quarterback to take over? Are you willing to say that Trey Lance is going to be the next guy?

Are you willing to go in the draft and say, I'm going to find somebody in this, look, the draft that is not quite as great as it was. The Cowboys should go to DAC and get this done. They may not, but I don't know. I think Jerry wants to see what it looks like, but I think Jerry is playing himself, and Dak is going to be that ends up with the bag laughing. Well, he's done that before.

Every time. He's played it very well. He's played it every time, and he knows there's going to be a handful of teams with the market. So let's just say, I've heard you talk about it. Raiders. The Raiders, the Seahawks, the Giants. I mean, there's another team that will emerge.

Carolina. So all he needs is a couple of teams to get into the Bidmore, and now what would be 60, million becomes 65 million. He signs a contract that blows everybody away, much like Deshaun Watson signed a contract that was different. And you've heard that talk about paying it forward. Not only the brotherhood of his team, because I heard the clip that you played, he talked

about sending it up for the next man. That next man may not be the next man in Dallas. It may be who's the next quarterback to get paid. My job is to raise the market for that person. Yeah, I think DAC insurers a lack of. of chaos. And there's about a third of the team. I tend to think he's closer to the ninth, the 12th best quarterback. You could say five to eight. But we'd both agree. If Dax's your quarterback, adult, competitive, you win. You may not hoist a trophy, but Jay Glazer always said it.

Where you don't want to be in this league is driving to the ballpark on Sunday and thinking, we're a seven and a half point dog. We've got to play perfect to win. It's a miserable league. Okay, so quietly, they've won 12 games in each of the last three seasons. So, like, there are a lot of people that would take that. Like, we can talk about the Dallas Cowboys being the 90s. Outside of the Chiefs, everybody would. Yeah, like, they could be the 80s, 90s versions of the Atlanta Braves. They won a bunch of division titles that were always there, didn't win but one World Series.

But they were always in the conversation. As an owner, you have to make a decision. Do I always want to be in the conversation? Or am I loading up for that one big win? Then I fall back to irrelevance. That's been Tampa's model. Tampa every 12 years is great for a year. And by the way, it works for Tampa, but Tampa's not the Cowboys.

Cowboys, the brand. The brand is you always want to. They have six prime time games. So we can talk a lot about the Cowboys being underachievers, six primetime games. They don't put them on TV if people don't tune in to watch them. And so when you have that Prescott and you're able to win 12 games, there is some comfort and knowing we're always going to be in the postseason because that's what he guarantees you. He's always going to get you to the tournament.

Now, what you're doing in the tournament? He has to play better in the playoffs. But they're always in the tournament. You can't win the tournament until you're in the tournament. Lucky, good scene you get. Man, good being on. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker.

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I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment.

And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?

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Ryan with today's news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, Justin Jefferson is fresh off a massive $140 million extension this off season, but money can

only do so much to stave off injuries and Jefferson suffered a torn hamstring, which cost him seven games last season. And that injury, well, it's still on his mind. I'm so scared for it to happen again. I've been overly cautious about it. Just, you know, trying to take care of my body in the right way. Just trying to find new ways and new things that I can implement on my day-to-day life

that would better help me throughout the season. But I definitely been working on my hamstrings a little bit more and making sure that I'm, you know, I'm going to push it to where it's way strong enough for it not to happen again. So it's just all about being confident in it, just having that confidence in it to where it's not going to happen again. And I can go out there and play freely. Most one of the more interesting teams put them in a week. If you put them in the NFC South, I would sell they'll win their division. And then you put them in the NFC North and they can finish fourth.

That's how much I respect Detroit. Green Bay. And an improved Chicago team. They're really good. I love their coach. You know, it's funny, because Minnesota's never won a Super Bowl. They've gotten to Bud Grant several. I think you start looking at the quality of coaches they've had.

They're Hall of Fame players. They're a little like the Buffalo Bills of the AFC. Is that you start looking, Buffalo is mostly in my life been pretty well. run. Marve Levy years exceptionally well run. Minnesota, I think people forget, has mostly been well run almost all of my life from the 70s

on, but when you don't get that trophy, Buffalo, and Minnesota, you're kind of considered second tier as a franchise. Whereas Green Bay, for all the greatness at quarterback, Rogers got one, Farr've got one, you have to go back to Bart Stark. The Packers

were irrelevant in the 80s. So it's like, every time I look at Minnesota, we don't quite, they're not the Timberwolves. They're not the twins. Like, these guys are closer to the top of the league than the bottom of it or the middle. And even this year, when you view it as a rebuild year, they could make a wild card spot. I would not be shocked if they finished second. I mean, Green Bay is still young.

So I always have this soft spot for Minnesota. You start looking at the schedule, Ryan, and for our radio audience, one and no against the Giants potentially. There's a lot of home games, Goeither Way games. Texans, Jets, Colts, Arizona, Atlanta, Bears. They have a lot of their

go-e-e-the-way games, three-point spread games at home. You know, they got some games that look like losses. I mean, at L.A. is a tough one. You know, they're going to go to Green Bay. But if you start looking at that schedule, The games that are three-point spreads and less outside of the Niners, a lot of those are at home. I think they're going to be at eight-win team, nine-win team.

Chicago and them to the very ender in the playoff race. Let's look at the 49ers, where despite the drama surrounding Brandon Ayuk, Ricky Pearsall is making some noise at camp. Kyle Shanahan has also praised his work ethic and progress so far, and Pierce-Sall is making sure to build his connection on and off the field with Brock Purdy. It's been a pleasure. Obviously, he's one of the top quarterbacks in the league right now. So, you know, going into a, you know, a system with a quarterback like that, it's

a great blessing for myself. It's made everything easier, you know, just chopping it up with him each and every day. You know, going up to him and just having a normal conversation, like, what can I get better at? And then just ask some questions about the playbook and getting feedback from the quarterback. So, because once you start seeing it through a quarterback's lands, then it just becomes that much easier for

a receiver. So just to continue to develop that trust and that connection. with him. Excited to watch him as a rookie receiver. They drafted two wide receivers, one kid from Arizona fourth round who was an excellent college receiver. Pierce Hall was the Florida Gators. Not a great team, but a really,

really productive player. If one of those two hits, then the Brandon Ayuk Dibeau situation, they feel more expendable. I still contend, IUC's more talented than Debo, but Debo feels more connected to the DNA of the Niners. Yeah, it'll be interesting because this

the same situation the Bengals find themselves in is you can't it's tough to pay top of market for quarterback and two wide receivers and we're seeing it play out right now with T. Higgins they are probably going to end up letting him walk because they're going to they already pay big money for Joe Burrow and now they're going to end up paying big money for Jamar Chase all right we'll wrap up with this Colin Jemir Gibbs had an incredible rookie season with the lions totaling over 1200 yards from scrimmage and adding 11 total touchdowns. Amunraa St. Brown just got paid, maybe some extra cash he's willing to spend, and, well, he reportedly made a proposition to Gibbs.

Record a thousand rush yards and a thousand receiving yards, and Amunra will buy Gibbs whatever he wants. Gibbs said he's going to hold him to it. He's going to break his bank and adding he may end up getting a house out of this wager. You know why he was such a good pick that got criticized? because that offensive line ensures that he's productive. And that's why Sequin Barclay's been running behind a brick wall. Like, he can't find openings.

This kid's a guaranteed thousand-yard rusher, 900 yards up, because it's the best offensive line by a long shot in the league. Ryan with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Line News. So Jay Mack is back tomorrow from the Pacific Northwest with his family. you want to thank Bucky Brooks, Michael Redd stopped by from the redeemed team to talk about our Olympic team that should favor to win gold.

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Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

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