The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - The issues facing the Eagles

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

3-time Super Bowl champion Julian Edelman stops by to talk about the Eagles showing a lack of respect for their head coach, distractions during his career, Bill Belichick going to coach UNC and more C...olin has same interesting ideas that could help the NBASee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or F.S. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Leon Edelman, in a while, three-time Super Bowl champ and MVP, 12 years in the NFL. So the Belichick thing is interesting. Urban Meyer was on a couple hours ago, and he said, you know, now it used to be in December, you were in your car recruiting.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Now they come to you. He goes, actually, several years ago, I thought Belichick was a terrible fit in college, but actually now he can sit in his office. You sit down with Mike Lombardi and how much do you want? Have you changed? We've had so many different opinions on Velichick. What do you make of it today? You know, the more you think about it, the more it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:03:48 One, you know, projecting players, I know that you're not a big fan of him at that, but he did have a guy, Steve Neal, who was a wrestler that was a three-tebroseph, time Super Bowl champion guard. I was a quarterback in college. He projected me as a receiver. Gronk was a huge game. You know, Tom Brady, so he knows that a project players.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Two, his dad was a part of that whole thing. He loves nostalgia. He loves his family. Anything that his father was a part of, he loves. So that makes sense. And then, you know, three, it comes down to
Starting point is 00:04:28 NCAA is pro football now. Like Urban said, this is just turning into a introductory pro football league. Like AAA baseball. It's AAA baseball. Now, there is something that you noted, this is interesting for our audience.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Spring football actually is better in college than the pros, because of the CBA and the NFL's very limiting. Without a doubt. So, like, when everyone talks about the developmental players, you know, I've never seen Bill have spring practice full padding. Now, he's going to have 15 practices to install his system, full contact, eight hours a week, whatever it is, with pads. With pads to install his offense and get his team ready,
Starting point is 00:05:16 which those in the NFL are passing camps in shorts. You can't go pads in the NFL. Can't go pads in the NFL. As a matter of fact, when your day is done, you have such strict work law laws that you have to leave the facility, you can't throw extra after the facility. Now, I think, you know, I don't know the college laws, but I just remember when I was in college, we used to run so much, six in the morning, then we'd go and have football practice after, and then you'd have meetings. So you could install your whole offense in the spring. You could install your whole offense in the spring, and that's what we do in the league through those passing camps and mini camps. Now, it's effective for us because we've all had a
Starting point is 00:05:56 foundation and we're all pros. But at a younger level, you know, you get to hit these kids. They get to hit and you get to develop them at a faster rate. So it's going to be very interesting to see how fundamentally sound his teams will be because of that off-season spring
Starting point is 00:06:12 practice and the ability to go out and prep full pads. Okay, so Danny Parkins came on. He knows the Bears well. He's from Chicago and he said, listen, Vrable's a bit overvalued because he had a losing record last couple years. He got into a power struggle.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Chicago could be a power struggle. You're better off going and finding an offensive coordinator. I think Chicago's too big of a job, too many obstacles to just say, here, offensive coordinator, run the steeple chase. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Where do you fall on that with Vabel? I fall that if he was interested in the Bears, they should definitely hire him. They need a culture guy. Like, I know that's what you call him. But they need someone that's going to grab someone by the back of the neck and say, hey, I need to talk to you in the hallway because you're slouching or you're doing this.
Starting point is 00:07:04 They need an accountability guy. You know, it's very similar to the Detroit thing with the historical, you know, the amount of losses that they've had historically in Detroit. They need a culture guy to go get MCDC. Mike Vrabble's MCDC, but like this guy's a savant when it comes to football. And I'm not saying MCDC isn't. But, like, I know Vrabel for, you know, firsthand. So they need a culture guy.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They need someone that's going to be an hold people accountable. And I believe if he wants that job, you know, they should try to hire him. Yeah. Vrabel, who told us, J. Mack? Was it Urban told us last week that he thought Vrable was the smartest player he ever coached? Somebody told me that. It was probably Matt Patricia. No, it was Josh McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:07:54 He thought he was as smart as ever coached. And he said he retained so much information. Yeah, he retained it. And he even gave Brady crap. He gave everyone crap. And that was the thing. He was so smart that he could get under your skin and you couldn't do anything about it because he knew your assignment. He knew his assignment.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And this is all while he was on scout team, you know, as a starting defensive end playing safety. Like, that's the kind of guy he is. And that's the kind of guy you need. you need an a hole. That's what they're lacking in that locker room. There's way too much noise. Matt Nagy was a great guy in one, and they didn't like that. No, they need someone to come in and tighten things up.
Starting point is 00:08:36 He had an identity in Tennessee. They were tough. I heard the guy who came in on your show talking about, well, you need an offensive of mine. We need that, you know, all these offensive play callers, you know, they could call plays, but I don't necessarily know about their leadership skills. You don't know how they're going to be as a head coach. Sean McVey and Shanahan aren't just coming out of the factory.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Those guys are, you know, one of ones. You know, a guy like Mike, you know, he's a culture guy that's going to be fundamentally sound, that's going to have the respect of every single guy in there because he's a three-time Super Bowl-winning player. He's a coach that has a lot of, you know, a lot of merit behind him. It was, you know, number one seed with Tennessee. Like, this guy's got the resume. He's got the attitude, and I think he's what the Chicago Bears need.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Okay, so I have said, I like Brock Purdy. You start talking 50 large. I don't like Brock Purdy. I go Sam Darnel at 40 for three years over Brock at 55, and I think if you look at almost all, now wide receivers different. They come third round, fifth, six, seven. Take out Brady. You look at most great quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:53 right now of the 14 playoff quarterbacks, 12 or first rounders. Hertz is a second rounder. You drop to the seventh for a reason. Scouting is much more sophisticated today than 15 years ago and 20 years ago when Tom went. It's hard to find a sleeper. People like Purdy, but he was reckless. He was small. He struggles in wet weather.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I can't pay him big money. I know he wins. I can't. Am I wrong? You know, if there's a five in there, starting with, five, it's going to be tough because of what we're seeing with Sam Darnold in Minnesota. I mean, this was his backup last year with the players and the semi-similar scheme that they have, and we're seeing what Sam Darnold is this year.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I do agree that the seventh round thing, I specifically remembered if, you know, I felt if I was drafted in the third or the fourth round, I would have made probably 40% more money, but because I was the seventh rounder, I always got labeled with that. and I don't know if that's going to be different with Brock, but just through this whole year, I remember going and talking about on kickoff in week five when they were going through a bit of adversity, they're starting to drop guys.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I said specifically this is going to, this year will determine whether you're a $30 million quarterback or a $50 million quarterback. And through the whole year, it looks more like he's a $30 million quarterback, which is a great quarterback. He's a good football player, but we're seeing his limit,
Starting point is 00:11:22 when guys aren't playing and when there's, you know, when there's excuses, you know, what did Sean Connery say? You know, excuses are for losers, winners are the guys who go home and take the prom. You know, that's the thing. I always use the if rule. Yeah. If you're a quarterback that's an if, like Josh Allen is great. Brady's great.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Good weather, bad weather. If you're an if quarterback, who is the ultimate if? If it's warm, you're at home, have protection, an offensive coach, and are healthy. Excellent. A lot of ifs. Brock, struggles in wet weather, struggles without McCaffrey, struggles playing in the fourth quarter, especially behind. There's a lot of qualifiers. If the first number's five, you can't be an if guy.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You can't. And this is a product of this whole system. I mean, if you look at it, two is in the same system. Brock's in the same system. Jimmy G's in the same system. Accurate, but nothing. Timing. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And the only one who really has manifested the whole thing and won the Super Bowl is Matthew Staffer, who wasn't born in the system, who was born in a drop-back system that went to this system, the West Coast system. And he's one of the all-time great arms. And he's one of the all-time great arms. That's what I...
Starting point is 00:12:37 This whole Shanahan McVeigh system, it's a very quarterback-friendly system that allows guys to go on and get high production. Now, it's going to cost you when you have to go sign them because of that. Yeah, that's a good point. So, I said two days ago,
Starting point is 00:12:56 the Philadelphia Eagles have all these qualities that bad franchises have. The coaches barking at other coaches, that players are going on local radio and criticizing the chemistry, and Jalen Hertz and Brandon Ingram aren't tight,
Starting point is 00:13:13 and they run through coordinators. It's like A.J. Brown issue with J.H.R.S. this is what like Carolina does. Or the Bears. And I'm like, but Philadelphia keeps winning. So they're like strangely effective and productive
Starting point is 00:13:31 despite drama and dysfunction. How? Well, the roster. They have the best roster in football. I think so too. You got to tip your cap to Howie. And Sey-Quan, when you have a run game, like with Seyuan, a generational running back, he masks a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:13:49 and winning masks everything. But this will go and catch up to them in the playoffs. I believe so. You know, I know winning cures a lot, but there's been a lot of crazy noise, and it would be unreal to me to see if they can continue to have all these little feuts, these outside noises. We got Dom, the security guy who's a kid.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Like, we have so many things. It would surprise me if they went on one of the super. Super Bowl because there's going to be a fundamentally sound team that's going to be mentally tough. That's not going to go down this road. That's going to, you know, that's going to handle them. Now, I don't want to sound like a hater. I do sound like a hater right now, but it's just, I've never seen it happen. I've never seen this with leadership the way that they have that's to go out and win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:14:42 What's the video we have this week? Siriani went to talk to Jalen Carter. He got punked. He got punked. He got pumped. A de-line coach. You're not going there. There's just a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think there's a lot of lack of respect for the head coach. That's what I felt. Players can, they have the best roster. They got really good football players. But I think that the leadership, you can't have a head coach that doesn't have the respect to everyone. I just don't, when it comes down to it in like a got-to-have-it situation
Starting point is 00:15:10 or some kind of something where he's going to have to make a decision, I just don't see it happening. I know it's it's they've proved me wrong all year but you know we're talking about like it's either Super Bowl or bust for this team yeah that's it's not about getting to the NFC championship it's not about winning two playoff games this team needs to win now go to your most dysfunctional year in New England I mean there was a lot of stuff but that but but when I watched the documentary
Starting point is 00:15:40 go to the year where you remember thinking it damn it's noisy here what year was it and what transpired at the end of the season? I would say 19 was pretty noisy. When we had A-B. come in. And then Rob retired. There was a whole lot of going on in the front office
Starting point is 00:16:05 and that whole thing. And we lost in the first round to the Tennessee Titans. That's right. Tom's last game in Foxborough. Without a doubt. Last throw, Logan Ryan. And it was a noisy year. That was a noisy year.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Another noisy year, I would say, was 17. How'd that end? We lost in the Super Bowl to Philadelphia. Oh, that was the Malcolm Butler. That was a noisy year where, you know, we had a really good football team. I think we threw for 500 yards that day and we couldn't win the game. And you felt it during the season. It was tense.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It was tense, but I was kind of away from the team that year because I was in the training room. doing my ACL. I had my ACL that year. So, but anytime there was, or, you know, after the Hernandez thing, we lose the playoffs. So like, anytime there was crazy noise, and I'm not just trying to hate on
Starting point is 00:17:02 Philadelphia. Everything right has to happen for you to win a Super Bowl. Right. You know, I've won three of them. I went to five of them, and some of the best teams I played on didn't even get there. Like, everything right has to go in favor for you to win the Super Bowl. And when there's little things, they will add up.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I remember Belichick always saying, you know, it's like when you put in a hardwood floor and you have to hammer all the nails down, you have to make sure you'd hammer every single one because there's going to be one that you didn't hammer down that you may not see, but six months later is you're going to stub your toe on that nail. And that's kind of the thing that this is, you know, it's going to catch up to them. Now, yeah, that's that. No, I think, I mean, in your life, there were three noisy years. You never took home the trophy.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Never took home with trophy. Give me the perfect year you had when everything worked. You literally, the Super Bowl was over. You know, we had some noise, too. What was that? Atlanta year. We'll know the year, we went, you know, when Tom was suspended in 16. You know, we had noise that year, but we also had Tom Brady and Bill Belichick,
Starting point is 00:18:10 and that pair, you know, that's not Hertz and Siriani. Right. You know what I mean? There's nothing against those guys. They're very good at what they do, but like there's nothing. Like we had to have a lot of mental toughness, and we had the best football player in the history of the game. And it's prime.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And is prime to do that. So that was like the one noisy-ish year that we went on one. And then, you know, I was suspended in 18 for the first four. That was a noise year, and we won the Super Bowl. But like that was different as well because we have Belichick. Well, both of them, the noise was in September. In September. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:46 This noise is coming like weekly. It's weekly noise. I feel bad because it's a fun team to watch. They are like when you watch Sayquam on the football, AJ Brown takes, you know, his one, he gets slant routes. He gets three or four slant routes a game that he breaks four tackles on and gets 25 plus yards.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'll make this argument. I'll make this argument. This is the most talented NFL roster. This right here. I'm trying to think of one that's second. I'll tell you, that Brady one that won in Tampa, when he basically, they got Tristan Wirth and he was like, oh, crap, he's great. And Gronk came.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And A, B. That roster had dudes everywhere. That was, they had one issue, right tackling and running back, and they solved it. That was an all-star. I mean, hell, that team, the year before had 30 picks by James and almost made the playoffs. Almost made the playoffs. But he also had 33 touchdowns. Julian Edelman, great team of man.
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Starting point is 00:25:47 They got a former player saying it. It's like, come on, guys, pay attention. No, it's weird. When the coach goes to talk to a player, not a coordinator, a position coach punged him. You can't get shushed from... I mean, that's bad. I've never seen it, but this is a new generation, maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:06 No, I don't know. Fly Eagles, Fly, baby. It's not that new of a generation. All right, let's guess. started with a big one on Saturday on Fox. The Ravens host to Steelers. Pittsburgh has won eight of nine against Baltimore. Isn't that crazy? That's a stunning stat. That is a weird stat. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. Pittsburgh won the earlier meeting. They can lock up the division
Starting point is 00:26:25 with a win on Saturday. Here's Tomlin on the matchup. Really excited about this opportunity. For obvious reasons, it's a divisional game. It's a road divisional game. It's Baltimore. And I understand the nature of this rivalry and the amount of attention that it brings and it's exciting and humbling to be a part of it. While at the same time, we've got an opportunity to pursue a division championship this week. And so, man, we're excited. We respect this process of preparation. We're going to display our excitement by getting singularly focused on what it is that we need to do to prepare.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, that is one of the stranger rivalries in the NFL that Pittsburgh, during the Lamar Jackson era, has dominated this run. Well, he hasn't played in all the games. He hasn't. He hasn't. A couple times. Yeah, I'm just curious. Did I hear you say earlier this week,
Starting point is 00:27:18 coach of the year goes to Peyton over Mike Tomlin? I love Tomlin, but I think Peyton's doing more with less. I think Mike's got a really good roster. Wait. Okay. Bow Nicks. They took on Russell Wilson, who nobody wanted even dumped two years in a row. Well, no, wait, time out.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah. There were people interested. in Russell Wilson. He had a market. Seattle dumped him. Well, okay, a lot of people get dumped. Denver dumped him. I mean, it was Pylon City. There's a dog pile on Russell. I felt bad for the guy.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, I think Pittsburgh's roster's damn good. It is. It's very good. It's not Philadelphia, but if you said there were five other rosters I loved, they'd be in that next five. I'm also trying to overcompensate for telling the Steelers they should trade JJ Watt. When did you say that? I think of June. You know, it's like hot take
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Starting point is 00:29:03 Ooh, all right. Next up, this is not a great story. Will Levis. Guys had a rough go. Now listen, this is another one Cowher doing a victory lap. injuring his shoulder, patting himself on the back because he said Will Levis' gun show would be a failure. Yeah, I told you. He likes the mirror more than he likes the window. Yeah, Levitts got benched multiple times this season. Now it's Mason Rudolph coming in.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Rudolph has kind of been okay off the bench. Very good, he's a top five backup in the league. You have like eight guys as a top five backup in the league. I have Daniel Jones now is very good. We haven't seen him. Mason Rudolph is very capable. Oh, dear. Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who else a good backup? Well, Malik Willis has to be one or two. He's shown that he knows what he's... What about the guy in Cincinnati last year? Jake Browning? Browning, there you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So there's a bunch of guys. I mean, look at this guy. This guy is doing too many curls. Get in the film room, stop lifting weights, have a snickers. I don't know. It's just too much of this. Too much of, you know... Snickers?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Can I tell you my theory on quarterbacks that are ripped? Quarterbacks are one or two things. I like window quarterbacks. They're always looking out for others. I don't like mirror quarterback. They like looking at themselves. I always feel with Will Levis.
Starting point is 00:30:18 He likes lifting weights. He likes him Will Levis. And I think eventually players feel it. Players sense it. You start playing all of his hitching and all of his shoulders. It's a little gun showy for me. For the record, I talked to an NFL GM about this before the draft. And I told him, I said,
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't like this combine gun show thing. And this general manager said, oh, that was disgust amongst our scouts. I'm just telling you, it was discussed. I feel like you're turning into an inside the NBA guy just becoming a hater, just bashing the guy. I watched the NBA Cup last night. Now, let's show Will Levis stats on the screen. The staff has put together some Will Levis numbers as a starter. What do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:31:07 They've got 21 T-Ds and 25 giveaway. What do you want me to do? Yeah. By the way, he's exactly what he was in college. Big arm, good-looking kid, gun show, bad judgment. He's exact same player. So Rudolph has two of Tennessee's three wins this year. Will Levis, it's been a rough go.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I don't know what becomes of him, but he's probably not long for the league. Next up, oh, I love this one. College football, my brother's so fired up about this. He sent this to me. Penn State is playing SMU in the first round of the playoff on Saturday. Great game. But Penn State is without one of their key players. Their backup quarterback, Bo Prabula,
Starting point is 00:31:44 and it's not just he's the backup. I mean, this guy's, I think, got five rushing touchdowns. He was integral into their offense, right? He's entered the portal and will not play. So James Franklin talked about the poor timing of the transfer portal. We got problems in college football. And I can give you my word, Bo Perbula did not want to leave.
Starting point is 00:32:09 our program. The way the portal is and the timing of it and the way our team is playing and when you play the position of quarterback and there's only one spot and those spots are filling up, he felt like he was put in a no-win situation and I agree with him. James Franklin is right. They have got to get rid of this transfer window here. They got to get rid of it. Your kids are trapped. That kid would stick around for the playoff. He wanted to stick around. But Colin, it's aligned, according to all these people who cover, it's aligned with the calendar for the school year. You can't change that for Collins football. So, listen, the one thing he's wrong about is it's not a no-win situation.
Starting point is 00:32:59 This kid, Bo Probula, is probably going to double whatever Penn State was paying him on NIL. And he's going to be the starter somewhere. He gets to handpick. You know, the quarterbacks had to hit the portal quickly because it's like musical triggers. The big war. Yeah. Right? I get it. I just don't want the kid to be viewed as selfish. He had no choice. Correct. As long as everybody knows that,
Starting point is 00:33:20 this kid had no choice. He wanted to be a nitty lion or at least stay through the playoffs. The starter, Drew Allaire. He's coming back. He's coming back. Remember, you talked about him as a pro prospect. Yeah, I think he needs another year in college. I do think he's a pro prospect event. Yeah, but if he's staying, I'm the backup, what am I doing? I got to go elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So I understand why he's doing this. Listen, this portal discussion is fab. I'm sure Clat is watching and his head is exploding because he's very fired up about this. It feels like there's some pearl clutching in the college football. Well, a little bit. It's fine. Oh, come on. This is so tough on the coaches.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yesterday, everybody's freaking out in L.A. Lincoln Riley lost two receivers. You know who he didn't lose? His two best receivers. The two guys that actually Lane and Lemon, the two best receivers. Branch is a lot of high school hype. I've heard stuff by the same. I know what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:12 The branches wanted a lot of money. They wanted their own bank branch. And USC said no thanks. Is it messy? Yes. Are they going to figure it out? Sure. But you and I, you say this, we love chaos on the show.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And this transfer portal is chaos in college football. I like it. It's chaos for a couple of weeks, twice a year. There you go. And by the way, USC isn't losing their best players. They lost some five-star recruits that haven't done anything anywhere. So that's just the star recruiting service. And oh, by the way, I'll just remind everybody, SMU's in the playoff.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Arizona State's in the playoff. Boise, Indiana. Look at how many transfers they've had in. The playing field has been totally leveled. I love this, Colin. I like a good underdog. I know you're a coastal elite. You're very upset that Alabama, mighty Alabama.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I like Arizona State in. I like, I think it's fun. I don't think they're going to win a game, but it's fun. You know, you love that coastal elite thing. Last time I checked, you live on the beach. You ain't living in Iowa, I'll tell you that. We've got to go to break. I suggested Chicago.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You freaked out. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. One of us actually spends a lot of time in the Midwest. I just take my winter jacket. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. One of us knows the Dells isn't a department store in Wisconsin. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHard Radio app. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news?
Starting point is 00:35:54 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:36:12 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:36:29 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:36:45 or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
Starting point is 00:37:05 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:37:47 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing
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Starting point is 00:38:21 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Will Ferrell's Big Money Players And IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms So I'm Leanne This is my best friend Janet And we have been joined at the Hipsons High School Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later.
Starting point is 00:38:36 We're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Well, they had a bogo.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Well, then you got it. Do you want a white color or something here? Just hit it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, We're joined by our first ever guest. Sorry, our first ever human guest. I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the pair. I'd be too nervous. That's right. The very funny, Will Ferrell joins Rory Scovel and me, Josh Dean,
Starting point is 00:39:48 for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question. No, I was thinking, would that be a good name? for like a salad dressing. Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops. Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes. I didn't get caught. You know why? If you don't want to be
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Starting point is 00:40:50 Okay, J. Mack, we like new stuff. But you think so? What kind of progressive thinkers on new stuff in sports? And I've said today that the NBA is unbalanced, uneven. I like the three-point shot. I don't like the league to be all three-point shots. Like 72 shots last night. I mean, Oklahoma was like five of 30.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Something like that. It was just ridiculous. So I thought, here are changes that you could... Some are radical, some are not. So let's talk about potential changes. I like a couple of them. So let's start with this change. You don't like threes at all.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Just take away the three-point shot. Now, I like the three-point shot. Okay. So I don't like that. I do think when you trail big, you're down 12. There's a minute 15 left. I think it can get you back into games. The second one, which I have proposed for several years, you take away the corner three.
Starting point is 00:41:48 You can't camp people in the corner. That allows more the big guys to stay around the basket, more big collisions with big bodies around the basket. They're not racing to the corner to guard somebody. So I like this idea plus the next idea, which is push the three-pointer back. So I would push it back about a foot and eliminate the corner. So elite shooters are still going to hit theirs. But you're not trying to make Anthony Davis and Janus three-point specialists. Okay, so you have fewer threes, but the right people are shooting them.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Now, some have suggested, Greg Popovich a couple years ago almost fainted a four-point line. Now, this is beyond the three. This means, hey, you trail by four and there's 12 seconds left, you can tie the game. Don't know if I like that. If you trail by four with a minute left, you probably deserve to lose. So I don't like the idea of this Hail Mary, because I think for Steph Curry and a lot of these NBA guys, they could hit this thing. here's another one that I think is fascinating. Four point circles.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Now, J-MAC is laughing. I think this is fascinating. So, okay, for our radio audience, you would have small, I don't think it's terrible. Four-point circles. Now, they're right next to half court. Again, these are end of half, end-of-course, end-of-hoc, end-of-shock, end-of-sequent, end-of-sequot. You don't do this often. Nobody's going to diagram these up.
Starting point is 00:43:21 but it does allow you some strategy. If there's a minute left in your trail by eight, do you do a three? Do you consider a four? It forces the defense to be on their toes. I don't think it's terrible. Here's another one. I'm not a huge fan of this,
Starting point is 00:43:36 but I think maybe we could try it for a year. 15 foot hoops. Oh, come on. Silly. I think if you combine two and three, which is take out the corner three, move it back like nine inches, to a foot. Steph's going to shoot his.
Starting point is 00:43:54 SGA is going to shoot his. But Aunt Edwards would probably go, no, I'm going to shoot two a game, not 10. And so, and again, I said this earlier, math doesn't equal entertainment. Steve Jobs always understood this. Packaging matters. Google glasses. Smart people created that tech. It was dorky. Nobody wanted to wear them. And meta versus
Starting point is 00:44:18 the headgear. It's just too dorky. Like, I'm not saying smart people didn't create it, and I like new stuff. But, I mean, you got guys that shouldn't be shooting three is just jacking up crap, and it's like, it's not. And I also think we forget
Starting point is 00:44:34 the most popular player in league history, and the most popular team were the Chicago Bulls. They shot five a game, and one of the reasons we love the Bulls, Pippin, slashing, dunking, Jordan, dunking. They had guys that could hit a three. Listen, that team shot five. If that team played today, they'd probably shoot 15.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But 43 times a game, this crappy Bulls team shoots a three. So again, if you really think about the logo in the NBA, Jerry West and the Jumpman, and that's an athletic play. That is Jordan at a dunk contest in the All-Star game, the Jumpman logo. The reason we use that and it's so popular, it's because Jordan's athletic ability. What we don't want to see is Jordan heaving up a 38-footer leaning back. And that's what the league to watch. For the record, Jordan was not a great three-point shooter.
Starting point is 00:45:31 He had two years when they moved it in, and the greatest player arguably ever Michael Jordan had his two best years shooting three. The league moved it back out, and Jordan's percentage plummeted. So Michael Jordan knew what he was. The best player ever is like, I'm a mid-range guy. Michael knew what he was. I mean, I don't know. I like John Morant
Starting point is 00:45:54 driving to the hoop and dunking. That's what I like. That's what does it for me as a consumer. We'll see you tomorrow in L.A. Been the herd. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.
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