The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - The Knicks have finally found their coach

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

The Knicks finally decided on the head coach with Mike Brown. After all the offseason moves, the Steelers reward GM Omah Khan. Accountability in Philly, Belichick seizing power and more!   #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah So With that said We are We are off and running here In hour three of the program We opened up the show talking about the decision by the Los Angeles Lakers.

Well, first we started off with a positive note. Clayton Kershaw gets strikeout 3,000. Congratulations. It looked a little suspect there for a while. He was getting lit up early. And then he ended up finding on the 100th pitch, he ended up throwing his 3,000th strikeout. And the Dodgers came back to beat the White Sox,

who are awful, came back to beat the White Sox on a Freddie Freeman walkoff in the ninth. So an amazing night at Dodgers Stadium. Also, Max Muncie was injured on a slide. So that's not great. And now we see what that could do for the Dodgers, how that impacts their movement at the trade deadline, et cetera, et cetera.

So kind of a wild night at Dodgers Stadium, but all and all, a historic night for Clayton Kirschaw. And then apparently a historic night for the Los Angeles Lakers who were all of a sudden NBA title contenders again because DeAndre Aiton. because DeAndre Aiton means that the Los Angeles Lakers have now all of a sudden catapulted themselves up towards the upper echelon of the National Basketball Association because they went out and signed DeAndre Aiton. And look, I'm just saying I feel like we've got enough evidence here to have at least a little bit better read on the DeAndre Aiton, NBA, to know.

Not exactly what everybody expected when he was taking number one overall in the draft. But apparently for the Lakers, this might make a lot of sense for them. And at least it's an upgrade. I'm still not sold that it brings them any closer to a title, especially in the Western Conference with that gauntlet in front of them. It's a fair conclusion to come to.

It's a fair assessment to have. But nonetheless, the L.A. Lakers need help on the interior with their bigs and Guyton does or excuse me what is it? Aiden Aiden Aiden Aidan. Eton. Eindre.

He, I think he fills that void. I really do. He has elite big ability. He can take a guy outside. He can dribble. He's a good rebounder. He can score. It wasn't the most productive of years for

him in Portland. But again, I'm not I'm not going to judge him off of Portland because I just, the things that I've heard about players in Portland, like with the whole, whose buddy that just went to Milwaukee Bucks? What's his name? Oh, Damian Lillard? Dame Lillard, right? We just heard about how that kind of went north or went south and never came back. Oh, yeah, Portland stinks. A lot of people have had a lot of complaints about Portland. So I'm not going to hold DeAndre Aiton accountable all the way accountable for it not being more in Portland than what it ended up being. But this is an opportunity for him to go to an amazing market.

He gets a two-year deal. So if he plays really well and he plays at a high level, you got to assume that he's going to be rewarded. And so I think this is a great opportunity for him. I think it's also a great opportunity for the L.A. Lakers to continue what would perceivably be moves that make them stronger and build more around what they're going to do in the future with Luca Donchage than what it would look like having LeBron James on this roster. Now, from one team, the Lakers, to another team, the Knicks, I mean, you know, pick a side show any side show everybody uh here we go the new york nix are hiring mike brown as their head coach now two-time coach of the year winner you know spent years with two of the more stable and successful organizations in the league san antonio and golden state you look at the move you look at the hire you go

okay makes a lot of sense like the hiring of mike brown but why did it take so long like what was I feel like this is a move that could have been done shortly after the season pretty quickly. And everyone would be like, all right, at least there's a clear understanding, clear direction. Instead, they just couldn't help themselves. They had to turn it into a circus. They could not stop themselves. They had to scratch the itch. It turned into what it turned into.

They were rejected as they tried to interview everybody. Wasn't Don Staley's name brought up? There was a moment in time where they were going to interview Don Staley for the job. Who was after her? Do Staley? I'm just like, what do we doing here? In terms of optics, what are you in terms of the New York Knicks, would that have been, how you think that would have been received?

And let's just say for the sake of saying, they ended up hiring Don Staley as the head coach of the New York Knicks. How do you think that would hit? Do you think that the sports world is ready for that type of a hire? I think that that would be an intriguing conversation to delve into and to talk about because she is a fine basketball coach. She knows how to motivate. She knows how to relate. She understands the game. She's got a great mental disposition, a mentality.

The biggest concern and the biggest question to me would be does that translate to men? And that would be my, like nobody has a problem. problem when there's a male coach coaching a WNBA team but how would that be accepted the first woman to be an NBA head coach

and it being of the New York Knicks, a historic franchise. How would that be perceived? They're trying to spin it as well we gave a very thorough effort and looking at it. I mean that's crazy thorough. That's what

they want to call with. We were we were thorough about the entire process. Like, no, you were looking to grab headlines. Let's just, let's be honest. You were looking to grab headlines. Otherwise, Mike Brown was the only guy that interviewed multiple times. The only one. Everything was a headline grabbing, like Don Staley.

You had all the other names that came out. Jay Wright's name was out. All these names popped up. You know, Danny Hurley's name was still, like all of these names that were out there. Emey Udoka. All of these. guys, it was never going to happen. They just wanted to grab headlines.

They wanted to get talked about. They wanted everybody to talk about it. It's like right when you think they're at least past all that, then you see them celebrate getting past the second round and you go, oh, it's still the nickel and dime Knicks. Okay. At least now we know. All right. At least now we know.

Like for a second there, you thought that they were back and a legitimate organization. And then you see the way they celebrate and the way they handled this whole thing. You're like, oh, yeah, same old Knicks. nickel and dime. I think the Don Staley conversation is an interesting conversation. I think another interesting topic line we discussed in our

one of the show is the idea that Mike Brown has a relationship with LeBron James. A lot of people are having the conversations that the time in L.A. has started to wind down quicker and that looking to possibly

be in a different market could possibly take place for LeBron if he doesn't want to step away from the game. He accepted his contract extension from the Lakers, meaning that it doesn't seem like he has any intentions of not playing in next season. Mike Brown coached him, his first stint in Cleveland. They had great success together. They didn't win it all, but they got very close, made it to the finals.

And I think now the rumor mill will be out there. And it's something that, again, I got to get credit to my man Cuff's the Legend because I can't take it. as for me, but is there the possibility that now that Mike Brown has taken the job in New York, that is the first domino to fall and LeBron James being the next domino to fall coming to New York and becoming a Nick? It would not be surprising if that were something that took place knowing that this New York Knicks team is very close. and that's the reason why they win a different direction, which makes no sense to me that you would go in a different direction

because you're so close to winning an NBA title. It's weird. But they're so close to an NBA title, and maybe they're one player away. I think they realized that they were probably one player away from being that next level, being able to get through to the finals and possibly had the opportunity,

the chance to be able to win the finals. Is LeBron James the next domino in line? to fall to end up as a New York Knicks. What if the Knicks said LeBron will trade for you, but you can't bring Brony? He's got to stay back. Again, I think there's two ways of looking at the Brony James situation. And you gave a

interesting plot twist in our one, but I'll say there's two ways. One, with J.J. Reddick, I do believe that LeBron James played a intricate role in him getting the gig. Whether people want to say he didn't, or he did whether people want to debate it or they don't.

I don't care. They got JJ Reddick and I believe that LeBron James' influence is the reason why. They then reward him with drafting his son in the draft and bringing him to the team. They kept him on the team and he maintained his position. If they can ensure LeBron James that Bronte is okay as a as a, as an L.A. Laker, then I don't think he would have an issue. I don't think he would have an issue with leaving Brani behind in L.A.

Considering that his family's here, right? His little sister's still here. Bryce, the little brother's still here. Mom would probably still be here. So LeBron going to New York, I don't think that that would be a deal breaker. They didn't want to take Brony with him. But I do think it would be an interesting conversation.

if Brony James did in fact go with LeBron James if he were to in fact go to New York to play for the Knicks. And you know the honest thing of the truth about all this and people listening right now on the blowtorch AM 570 LA Sports, you know this is a fact and you can push back on it all you want. People are kind of tired of LeBron out here. They're kind of tired of it. It's run its course. We're good.

Like if he wants to move on, you can move on and fine. We got Luca. That was the real concern. What was going to happen afterwards? Because the thought was it was going to be Anthony Davis, who was going to be here after LeBron left. And then as we've learned to find out, you couldn't depend on Anthony Davis because of the injuries and all that. And you just didn't know what you were going to get. At least now, you've got in shape, in his peak, at his full potential, Luke is a top five player in the NBA.

And if you're Laker fans, I think you look at it and go, LeBron, if you want to go, that's fine. Whatever we can get back in return and then we just try and work towards the future because I don't know that anybody is honestly looking at this team as currently constructed and saying, oh yeah, I'd take them against OKC, Houston, Denver, Minnesota, etc.

So if you're the Lakers, yeah, it would make sense if you're going to do it, do it now, get something in return, and New York might be the spot to go to. All I will say is... If he waves is no trade clause. In a slight pushback because I think your points are well-founded.

I was saying a slight pushback, adding DeAndre Eton, Eton. How you say, Aetton, Aiton. Adding him and his ability, Hade him. Adding him to your roster and having that down-low presence, if he can get back to form that he had in Phoenix, I just really, I believe, if you have LeBron James on this roster, him, Aiton, and Luca, and Ed, fill in the blanks, however you like to fill in the blanks, I think that's a big three. Austin Reeves?

I mean, if he wants to stay. Austin Reeves wants to stay. I mean, yes. I really believe they could be a very, very talented team that would take a state. What's your problem with Austin Reeves? It's if he wants to stay. Is that how he looks? Is that what it is? No.

Didn't he, wasn't he like, didn't he not sign his extension or something to that effect? Yeah, they offered him a deal, but he's going to wait and try and cash in for more next year. I'm just saying, like, he didn't sign the deal. You know, I just, you know, to me, I think that if you did one more year with LeBron James, it wouldn't hurt. But I think the whole conversation on the ring chasing, You know, is LeBron James a ring chaser? And why should the answer be no? LeBron James is basically held in the balance of being the greatest of all time based upon the count of rings he has.

So if he's ring chasing, who cares? Okay, you're going to ring chase in New York? Is there a problem there? I don't know. I think he has a better chance of trying to win in New York right now today than what he would. here in LA with the Lakers. I'd agree. Easier path in the East. Easier path. It is

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So while everybody is really excited about what they've done, the betting market at least looks at them and goes, they're an underdog a majority of their games. And the discussion, and we were having this on our show, LeVar, that despite what anybody says about Pittsburgh and all the additions that they've made, if for some reason they were to lose T.J. White or not be able to get that deal done, it would kind of change the way you view this offseason. Well, apparently not enough because,

their GM Omar Khan, a name who was brought up earlier in this show, has received a three-year contract extension that will keep them with the team through at least the 2028 season. That's pretty big. I mean, that's a significant development in all of this because in the midst of having a contract issue with one of your most beloved and most important pieces to your team, you get an extension done with your, with your GM, which says to me that's a firm indicator that the decision makers, the ownership of the team, believe and subscribe in

the approach that they're taking this off season. So no matter what the opinions of the outside world may be, you know, include myself, it would appear that the buy-in is there, the belief is there and con and what it is that he brings to the table.

So congratulations to him on the extension for one. And, you know, as a Steelers fan, I am 100% if I'm being honest. Even as a sports personality, I am 100% skeptical of what this offseason has looked like. I'm skeptical of what the prior offseason looked like in terms of how things were handled with the quarterbacks. I just, I'm a little, I am a little bit skeptical in the sense that I believe that the Steelers, will do exactly what the Steelers have done quite lately is the fact that we have

geez all right I can't maintain my thought that way I believe we have a situation here where it plays out totally lost my thought totally lost it totally lost my thought so he gets the three year

extension and now you've got now you've got the Steelers going into this season with Roger with D.K. Medcalf, with Ramsey, with Jonu Smith. There's a lot of pressure on this team, on Mike Tomlin, on Khan, the GM, to have a successful year. But to me, it ultimately comes down to what is, this is to me, they're okay with saying, we're going to take this as a one year go at trying to win the Super Bowl. But we believe in what you're doing in terms of setting up the pieces to build this team.

into the future. That's what a three-year extension says to me. It would be kind of interesting if Omar Khan, if Omar Khan signs this three-year deal, if Omar Khan signs a three-year deal, and then the first move he makes after signing the contract extension is to trade T.J. Watt. How do you think that would land? I'll say this. And again, I made this point. I brought up the rumor mill, and again, we talked to Albert Brer about it as well in terms of if there was the possibility of there being a

trade partner for T.J. Watt, if you didn't feel as though getting a long-term contract done with him would be the right thing to do. Terry McLaren and the Washington commanders came up as a possible that could be a win-win situation. T.J. Watt would increase the value of the defensive front.

that lost to John Allen, but they have Louvue. I mean, to have him and T.J. Watt, I think this would turn into one of the more elite defensive fronts that would make, you know, the Washington commanders perceivably a way more formidable team. But if you were to lose Terry McLaurin, how do you replace that? How do you replace that production if you are the Washington commanders? But if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers, at a team that you are supposed to. saying only feels as though you're going to win six games by the betters and by the lines, only six games being projected as the amount of games that they're going to win.

That doesn't vote very highly to how you feel about Aaron Rogers or T.J. Watt or anybody else that's on this team, even adding Jalen Ramsey or the Titan or D.K. Metcalf. But I think if you were to add Terry McLaurin to this team, you definitively improve and upgrade the offense to this team, even though it's a tremendous downgrade to your defense. But if I have to take a choice on if I'm giving

if I'm giving con the three-year extension that says I'm okay with you building. If you're okay with him building and this is a one-year deal to try to win the Super Bowl and then go into a total rebuild, I'm going with Aaron Rogers. I'm going with Aaron Rogers

and if I can bring in another tool and that tool as significant as a Terry McLaurin and I had to lose T.J. Watt, I think I have to do it. I think I have to do it just based upon his age, T.J.'s age based upon if I look at

getting rid of him early versus getting rid of him late, I think that it would improve this offense tremendously character guy and Terry McLaurin. I just think that that's, that would be an interesting move. Now, earlier in the show, we did catch up with Albert Breer, and

Albert Breer was having vacation with his family, nearly got attacked by a shark, a real story, shark in the water. Breer was able to get out of the water and call us and give his opinion and his thoughts on the trade rumor and speculation that LeVar

laid out to him. McLaurin, for what? Let's take a listen. It does kind of fit in with what the Steelers have done this offseason in general. So it's not an awful idea. I just, I think, with both the players, you know, you have to be confident you're going to get a deal done. And I think part of the holdup in both the contracts is kind of where those guys are in their

careers and that they're in their 30s. And both teams, I mean, obviously, you guys know what Terry McCorn means the commanders and you know what T.J. Watt means the Steelers, both from a playing standpoint, a leadership standpoint, all that different stuff, right? So, like, the only reason either of those teams would hesitate on paying them is age, right? And you're looking at both those guys that are on the wrong side of third. and it's not do I think he can play for me this year. It's like what is this going to look like two years from now?

So, like, I think in both cases it would take the team because I don't think like the contract issue is going to go away if you trade those guys. So that was Albert Breer talking about the possibility of a McLaurin for Watt trade that was thrown out earlier. I'll say this. And he mentioned, you know, with the Steelers approach this offseason, and we've talked about it on our show,

that whatever you think of the Steelers and the Steelers' legacy and the Steelers' history and all that, it's been a long-ass time since they've won a playoff game, long time. And I think that there was this feeling that they keep trying to roll out the same plan and it doesn't work. They tried to draft anything. Because they don't lose.

Yeah. But they just don't win. Yes. And I think... So that works. And so for that, fan base, they're looking at it going cool, but that's not what

this is here. Like here we expect more. Like if you can do that in Cincinnati or you can do that elsewhere, here we expect more. And so I guess you have to give the Steelers some credit and Omar Cotton some credit for this. It has looked different this offseason. We've never

seen them get this. Really aggressive. They usually spend the money on the defensive side of the ball. And their own guys. Well, that too. To a certain degree. but they will they went for the offense this year. They went

offensively this year and that's showing. I think again where they're at right now, this is a team that wins. They win the regular season. They make it to the playoffs and then they don't win. That has been the Steelers story. For most

NFL franchises would love to be in the situation that the Steelers are in because they keep their fans and in captivity, meaning we're not necessarily going to give you a Super Bowl or even a Super Bowl run, but we're going to keep you interested enough

because we're winning and we're going to make it to the playoffs. And so that gives us at least a lag up in terms of keeping the interest level there, which I will say as a historical Steelers fan, Chuck Noe did that for the whole entire last half of his career. Bill Coward did it for his entire career until the end. Mike Tomlin is the only one that came in, Guns of Blazing, and now, well, hold on. Let's rewind here.

Chuck Noll didn't come in Guns of Blazing, but definitely got it popping early in his year, in his years when he got all them Super Bowls with the steel curtain and branch on all those guys. And then the rest of the way, he had some very, very good teams, and they underperformed. Bill Cower, Bill Cower gets in, and it took him a while, and he finally got his one, right? Tomlin started off much like how Chuck Nolde did, came in, did very well, got a Super Bowl out of it too, right? Two Super Bowls won, one. He got one Super Bowl. And in doing so, he created a standard, and that standard was with a group of guys that he inherited. So now we are all the way into what Mike Tomlin's teams looks like.

with the GM that he's working with, and it hasn't been good enough to get to that Super Bowl, but it hasn't been bad enough to say they're too far away from being competitive for a Super Bowl to start over. Do you want to know how long it's been since the Steelers won a Super Bowl? John Madden was on the call for that game. I mean,

a long time. It's a long time. I was still playing. Things have changed. I believe I was, was I still playing? I think I was still playing. What was that? That might have been...

No, that might have been right after. It was 2008-ish. 2008? Yeah, yeah, it was against Arizona, right? Yeah. Yeah, I had just opened a restaurant. That's what it was. I had just opened a restaurant.

Yep. It's been a long time, man. So I think the fact that they have gotten so aggressive, because they've got to be looking around seeing what Baltimore's got and realizing that's a problem. For as long as Lamar Jackson's there, that's a problem. Cincinnati, if they could just, you know, not nickel and dime at themselves and figure out how to pay guys, especially on the defensive side, that could also be a problem. And then you just got the Browns, which are just the Browns.

But you look in the AFC, man, Mahomes and Josh Allen and all, there's so many things, obstacles in their way. And they've been struggling to find it. It's almost like Bill Cowher finally got his quarterback at the end of his career. and that's when they won Mike Tomlin inherited the quarterback and that's when he won and since then they've been trying to figure it out

at that position and for what it's worth because that's a great point for what is worth Jonas when you look at this Pittsburgh Steelers team and the things they've been able to accomplish if you're an avid sports fan and you're saying

I'm bringing in Aaron Rogers and while he may be be older, he is one of the most accomplished, one of the most talented football players that we have ever seen play this game. You can't get too much flack for pulling off getting Aaron Rogers the one to come play for you. You just can't.

I mean, he might be older, but hell, David Copperfield is old. If you're going to ask, if I want to do a magic show and there's some young guys out there doing what he's doing, who am I going with? I'm going with David Copperfield. You got that, right? So anyway. Remember when he did that thing where he made you touch the TV screen and like he could predict what?

That was so sweet. How did he do that? I don't know. But it didn't matter how old he was. He was coming up with some fly stuff, right? So to me, I don't feel like looking at it from the scope of you brought in Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey still has good football left in him. So you're going to get quality from the guys you've brought in.

If I'm looking at the job that they've done this offseason, I don't have a problem with it. You added depth to the tight ends position. That'll go a long way. You added DK. Metcab. You got rid of what was considered to be a malcontent and pickings in your locker room. So you might have fixed your culture and you might have handled bringing in a playmaker or two that's going to change things around.

I don't have a problem with that. You know what I have a problem with? Tell me how many times you've seen a team win. with mercenaries. And that's almost what this is turning into. You have a group, and I know, I know this very well, because I was drafted into a mercenary situation. 2000, when I came in, they brought in Mark Carrier,

they brought in Bruce Smith, they brought in Dion Sanders, they brought in Jeff George. I know what mercenary situation looks like. I have never seen it work. and maybe there's some people out there that have great investigative skills and can go through the annals and find a team that actually in the National Football League had a group of mercenaries that came together and went and won it all. Like in basketball, you can do mercenary stuff. You can get away with mercenary hires. I just have not seen that be successful in the NFL.

Yeah, because the last team was Philly. The Eagles. Yeah. They had like three different quarterbacks. What was it? Vince Young, Mike Vick. Was it Kevin Cobb? Was that before?

Who was the third? Was it McNabb? That was the starter? Who was it? It was three quarterbacks on that team. It might have been McNabb. I don't know if it was McNabb. It might have been.

Whatever it was. It was like three quarterbacks. And I know it was eight and eight. That's what I know. They were not very good. And I mean, they called them the dream team of football. And they did nothing. You just don't see it.

work what they do? Nothing. Zilch. AJ Philly. All right. A.J. Philly had some game back then. Yeah. Anyway, I'm just saying.

It's nice to be represented in that quarterback. It makes sense. It makes sense. The moves, you can justify the moves, but can you justify it beyond this season, for one, as the Steelers, as the GM, who's just been award it and reward it, I guess. Does it translate beyond this season?

And honestly, if it doesn't, then how are you measuring and how are you weighing the weight and the pressure of this year? If this is truly a win-now effort and what you're doing, then what if you don't win

any more than what you've won? Because winning has, has been good enough. So far, it's been good enough. But the act of winning, they've won so much that it's not enough. So if they can't show that they can win at the level they've been winning and also take a definitive step forward in the AFC North, as you mentioned, with Joe Burrow, with Lamar Jackson,

then what are we talking about here? And I think that's ultimately the conversation, where the conversation will go if Pittsburgh doesn't have a tremendous. measure of success in this upcoming season. Yeah, at least they're not the pirates. You know? Sheesh. It'd be worse. Well, because you could not care. Yeah, that's true.

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You'll see this show posted right after we get off the air. And we are actually, LeVar and I, Black and Drack will be in tomorrow for Fourth of July, on the Dan Patrick Show time slot. So that's the one that precedes this time slot. So maybe you guys shoot messages in saying, why is LeVar and Jonas in versus saying, where is Brady? I mean, at Brady Quinn. That's his handle, you know. Take it up with him.

We will actually be in on the 4th of July, you know, before we go see all of the, you know, the fireworks and all that stuff, you know. You want to come over? You come over, you know. You guys are invited. I got a nice little view. Not you, Lee. Damn. You're not invited, Lee. Damn.

Nope. You run amuck around here. I don't know if you want to run a muck around my career. No way. Right now it is time for this, though. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Crying music, yeah. Okay. Come on. One more time. Get some NFL going. All right. Eagles, reigning Super Bowl champs, surprising many who doubted their head coach, Nick Siriani, Colin, actually being one of the most loud critics of Nick Siriani. But their all-pro right tackle Lane Johnson coming to the defense of their head coach,

talking to Pat McAfee explaining what makes the head coach special. He had this to say, you know, when he's gotten emotional on the sidelines or he's screaming at guys, the good thing is we go and talk about it at the next team meeting after the game. I think for him, he's evolved as a head coach. He's kind of learning as he goes, but what I enjoy about coaches, everyone's held accountable. Whether it's in the film room, bad play by a player,

bad called by the coach, their name, their number, everyone's held accountable. By the way, if Nick Siriani was cocky before, what do you think it's going to be like now? I mean, he knocked off the juggernaut, man. Yeah, he got that one back. He got it back. He got it back.

And he had the first one, if we being honest. Yeah. Good for him, man, you know? Good for him. Things work out sometimes. The problem is it's Philly, so he could be out in two years. I mean, he could be in bad races after one week. Yeah.

One week ago. Believe me, I play that Penn State. As James Franklin. As Mike Tomlin, the state of Pennsylvania. We don't play around about a few things. Our hoagies? Our wings, our fries on stuff, our mama, and our sports. We don't play.

Yeah, it's, I mean, look, he was, even before they were winning Super Bowls, he was, you know, busting balls and yelling on the sideline and, you know, getting into arguments with fans. Well, they were using that against him. Nobody can say nothing to him now. He was calling him immature, not, not, if I heard it correctly from one of the shows around here, not acting as a head coach would act. I don't know which personality it was.

That's it. I don't remember. But his disposition wasn't that suitable of a head coach. Well, I think he has gotten, at least for now, he's gotten the last of the laughs. For now. To your point, Jonas, Doug Peterson wins the Super Bowl, and three seasons later, he was out. Yeah. Like a fart in the wind.

Gone. He did happen to have the eventual MVP and Super Bowl champ. He was on the bench. It was quite a mistake. Just a little bit of a mistake that got that he missed. It went great in Jacksonville, so I, you know.

He's stupid. Is he still the coach there? Oh, exactly. Liam Cohen. Duvall. Yeah. That is worse than that. you actually did it a little bit better.

All right. College football. We're anxiously awaiting Bill Belichick's debut on the sidelines of college football with North Carolina. An interesting development for the Tar Heels and potentially Belichick's future? Well, the university announced that athletic director Bubba Cunningham will step down

from his position and step into a new role. But reporting from CBS Sports on the hiring process of Belichick to Chappahill claims Cunningham didn't have Belichick high on his list of candidates to replace Mac Brown. And instead, it was John Pryor, the leader of the board of trustees who led the charge to getting Belichick. So perhaps Belichick already seizing a little bit more control?

The power struggle. Yeah. Good. You know what? Guy deserves some respect. I'm tired of people shaming somebody who was wrongly terminated by Robert Kraft and what happened there in New England. And then he goes out and, God forbid, he dates a rocket ship in her 20s. Everybody's got to stand in judgment.

God forbid. Good for Bill Belichick. I'm going to stay away from that one. You think he's going to walk a shame at this Fourth of July and then talking again or no? No. Those days are over? I don't think it was a walk of shame then. It was a walk of accomplishment.

Ain't none of y'all old fogies doing what Bill is doing. Respect it. That man was not afraid to come out half-dress with his taco meat out on his check. It was feeling good. Did he have a necklace on? It was like the, I remember when Jermaine Taylor, the boxer, when he used to start a fight, he would always kick his feet back. Like the bull.

Do you think Belichick did that? Absolutely. Absolutely. And it was either Rose Sparks or it was blue chue that was with him. Something assisted him. But that man put in some work. Batter up. and it wasn't a strikeout.

What else we got? We'll wrap up with this. Brian Windhorst reporting the latest on the Lakers-Lebron contract. Standoff, if you will. LeBron opted into his deal, but here's what Windhorst said, quote,

The Lakers and LeBron, whoever wants to spin their side of the story, I'm not sure what happened, but the Lakers and LeBron did not have substantive discussions about extending his contract, whichever team LeBron's been on for 20 years now, they've always had conversations about extending his contract.

Because he's leaving. Yeah. He's leaving. It's rain chasing time. Like, see you in the big apple. It's a wrap. Didn't he rip on Brian Windhorst recently and say they weren't friends and they weren't shoot your shot?

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