The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - The NFL draft

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Joel Klatt stops by The Herd to talk about the top prospects going into the NFL draft, Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders, and more Aaron Rodgers probably really wanted to go to the Vikings, but it's looking like the Steelers are his only option.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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going number one in the draft and we know it's not a great draft. The Shador Sanders thing is one of the only mysteries. I do think the Jets are going to trade down if they have the opportunity. It just feels like Aaron Glenn's going to want his guys in. I was told from a source I implicitly absolutely trust that one of the reasons that didn't bring Aaron Rogers back. They didn't want Aaron the quarterback, and they didn't want Aaron the guy. They wanted a new culture. They wanted to get younger, less expensive, and opportunities to go buy some help, some veteran, strong culture guys in help. So I could see the Jets trading down

and getting more picks. I think a lot of teams want to trade down outside of Tennessee. I think a lot want to trade down, and there's not a lot of takers. So here was, Shanoor Sanders, is one of the mysteries. Albert Breer earlier today on what he's hearing about his draft status. I would say Abdul Carter at 2 to Cleveland, Travis Hunter at 3 to the Giants. I think the Giants have protected themselves so they don't have to force anything at quarterback. And I do think, you know, like the idea of taking Travis Hunter and then maybe a day 2 quarterback where you're not tied to that guy for the next 10 years, but you get it, you're taking a shot at it. Might work better for them.

My guess right now would be that neither of them takes Chador, and then it becomes anywhere's guess where Chador goes. Because like I said to you last week, like he's sort of like, Bo Nix to me like this year's version of Bo Nix where last year were very few teams that had Bo Nix as a first round pick. He had to find a fit. And he obviously found that in Denver. No one cares or anybody had him anymore because he played great for the

Broncos. I think that's Shadour this year where a lot of teams don't look at him as a first round talent and he's going to have to find a fit. It's interesting. Joel Clatt. He played football at Colorado as well. It is interesting. Here's the argument for those that say Shadur's dropping. I could argue this.

Listen, not a special athlete. Been a couple of moments of immaturity. We don't love. Not the end of the world. But he's probably closer to Jackson Dard as a talent than Cam Ward. So what's the point? We'll wait to the second round. Is that a legit argument from what you've seen?

I don't. No. I mean, I think Shadur is an incredible player. I think he is and should be a top five or six pick in the draft. I think what people fail to realize is that he was doing at the college level what he's going to be asked to do at the NFL level, not only schematically, but also think about this, Colin, how many times do we evaluate quarterbacks that are playing with far superior teammates than their opposition all the time?

That's all we do is evaluate. Part of the reason why it's so difficult to evaluate. college quarterbacks is because generally speaking, they're playing on really good teams, and their teammates are far better than the opposition. That's not necessarily the case with Shudor. He's playing behind a really bad offensive line, and he took a team that was going from one win and then ultimately wound up in the top 25 and one nine games. Why? Because of him. So he had to raise the level of everybody around him. He did it without a running game. He did it without an offensive line.

He's hyper-accurate when he's on time in the pocket. He can create kind of from a magical standpoint and keep the play alive similar to Fran Tarkington. I hear this narrative, and unfortunately, this is where we're at today and kind of the coverage of the NFL draft is that the draft media or certain individuals within the league who are never going to draft this player to begin with

start perpetuating these myths and these untruths about players stemming out of the combine. We didn't like this guy. This guy is falling. And to be honest with you, I think that this type of storyline is lazy. And it's rinse and repeat every year. You take the guy that is the most controversial in the draft. And then we end up having to talk about this exact subject because of lazy journalism. and a big mouth scout.

That's what happens every single year. But when you actually watch your door, guys, excellent, man. He's got surgical capability. He's on time. He's accurate. He's smart. And he led a program from one win to nine,

which is exactly what he's going to be asked to do in the NFL. All right. Cam Ward, I mean, Cam Ward looks like a number one pick in terms of moves, arm, anything that worries you about him, that he's a little off script. A lot of guys are. early in there. Jaden Daniels was a lot of off script that worked.

My take is nobody's going to know what he is until Thanksgiving. So there's the element of the surprise in a weak division. I think he's actually going to play pretty well. You know, I think Cam Ward is a really talented guy. There is a little element, Colin, I think you would agree with me. And we've talked about this a little bit. There's a little element of gunslinger to him. He'll take some chances with the football down the field.

But that's part of what makes him special. And he believes and he trusts himself and his arm strength. I've loved Cam for a long time. And by the way, he played back of his days at Washington State with a surrounding cast that wasn't necessarily the best surrounding cast. So my same argument for Shador, you could also make for Cam. He had success behind what you could call poor offensive lines at the college level. So I think that that's actually a huge feather in his cap when you talk about the evaluation to the next level. I think he's going to have to just be careful from a turnover perspective,

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Maybe it wasn't. But I remember seeing a bunch of video. The Dark Ages. That's the Dark Ages. And I saw Patrick Willis video, a bunch of it. And I went on the air and I said, that's the best athlete in the draft. He went 11 to the Niners. And I said, I don't care.

I am watching him chase down SEC running backs. Chase them down. And they're four, four guys. And he ended up having a great career. He retired a little earlier, but he was a great player. And I was watching Ashton Genti footage the air day. And he had a little Sequin or three move. And I was like, you know, that's not normal.

Like, that's the stuff that's just God-given. And I kind of changed my mind from, you know, it's a good quarter. It's a good running back draft. You can get 85% of them in the fourth round. I kind of probably think he may be the third. third most athletic player in the draft after Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter. Where are you on the running back from Boise State? I love Ashton Gentie.

I really do. I think that, so I'm truth be told, like, I believe that the number one attribute that are running back has to have. It's a prerequisite that you've got to be able to run the football. And he obviously does that in spades, but you've got to be able to catch it out of the back. I think you would agree with me on that. Like in this day and age, you've got to be a threat.

on every down and in every personnel group. And that means catching it out of the backfield. Now, some would say, and I think lazily, well, he didn't have a lot of catches last year. But if you actually just kind of peek behind the curtain of what last year was for Gentie and more specifically for Boise State, they were very intently trying to win him the Heisman Trophy.

The only way that he was going to have a chance to win the Heisman Trophy be calling as if he not only tested, but possibly beat Barry Sanders yardage mark, you know, mid-2000s, 2,500 yards. Well, you're not going to waste touches on catches if you're trying to get just rushing yards. So they gave it to him 28 times, but it was via handoffs so that that yardage would be rushing yardage. Now, I firmly believe that. They have denied it. I've talked to some of the coaches about this, but I firmly believe that they, they targeted 28, 29 touches, and why in the world would you give some of that receiving? Now, that doesn't mean he can't catch the ball.

So I have heard, and maybe you have heard this or not, I have heard some people say, like, well, I didn't love his catch production as a wide receiver, or excuse me, a receiver out of the backfield. But he can do it. And it has been there in his history at Boise State. He's been a good receiver out of the backfield. So that's not a concern for me. So you go towards his special traits, his vision, his back. And more specifically, calling his contact through or excuse me, his balance through contact.

It's amazing. No one brings him down. And I understand it's the Mountain West. And I've been, you know, I'm a, I'm a big conference snob. I'm not afraid to admit it. But you watch this guy play, man. And it's no one brings him down. And he just kind of bounces through contact.

It's very beautiful. I have him going to the Cowboys in the first round in my mock draft. And he might not even last that long, really. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad get. So the receiver from Arizona, it's a weak receiver draft. They say T-MAC, the other day they caught him on video saying, I don't watch football. I don't love film.

It had a Johnny Mansell vibe. The difference is Johnny's a quarterback. He's a receiver. You have your receiver group. You know, I mean, I watched 15 of his college games. Big catch radius, big kid, a little bit of a glider, but after the catch, he's great. It doesn't bother me.

but I could see a team saying, we'll get a receiver next round. What did you make of the comment? Sure. Yeah, listen, he only needs one team to draft him, and there's going to be teams that are going to look past those comments. Like, what's he going to do? Watch film, be like, well, I can beat that guy.

You know? I mean, he's physically, he's physically so gifted that when you actually think about, like, what he's, listen, but this is going to sound bad, but it's like defensive tackles and receivers, need to know the least amount of schematics on the field. It's like the receiver is literally like, can I beat this guy or not? Is he in a jam technique or a bump technique or is he an off coverage?

And that's, I mean, that's kind of it, man. You know, and defensive linemen is like, left or right quarterback, bra. You know? So, yeah. So I'm not as concerned with a guy that is maybe not a football junkie. If a safety said this or if a tight end said this or certainly a quarterback said this, I'd be like, okay, I don't love that because they need to know. so much of what's going on schematically on the field with all 22 chess pieces.

Wide receiver, not so much. So I look at traits. He's big. He knows how to use his body. Not only the catch radius, but I would say that the win percentage in contested catches is so high for him because of his instincts with the football. So to me, he screams as a number one receiver potentially.

And for those reasons, someone is still going to have him high on their board, regardless of what he said about film. Okay, I like a lot about Jalen Mill. I like the body. I like the kid. I like the parents. But Kalin DeBore had Michael Panix for years, often injured. And Kalin DeBore struggled with him. I mean, you watch the first half against Vandy or Oklahoma. I'm like, I got no interest. And then you watch other games. I think it was the second half against Georgia. And you're like, whoa, what do we got here? So it was a beautiful deep ball. And again, coachable, great kid. But man, he was inconsistent at Bama. What is that why? What is the film? say on Jalen Milro? Well, I think that Jalen Milrow suffers from what a lot of guys suffer from that are supremely athletically gifted at this position in particular. It is both a blessing and a curse to be as gifted as he is running the football.

I think Lamar Jackson dealt with this in his career, in particular going back to Louisville. And I think that Jalen Milro is dealing with this. when you have that Trump card and that get out of the jail free card, it stunts your growth as a pure passer. So he now doesn't just need to use like the schematics of the game and the control in the pocket and his ability to control things with his mind, not that he can't. I'm just saying you don't have to do that

when you can just leave the pocket and beat everybody as an athletic quarterback. I've had this conversation with a lot of guys. And I would just say like, those of us that can't run, would we love to run? Yes, but what's the blessing of not being able to run? Well, you learn the entire game, and you learn all of your get out of jail cards that aren't your legs. And Milro and those that can just athletically get out of jail free with their legs,

they don't develop that. And eventually you're going to have to have that. So, Colin, what did we see? We saw growing pains. We saw a guy that was being asked to do things that he hadn't been asked to do before. And we saw that. And the question is, is, can you overcome that? Lamar Jackson has been able to overcome that.

Others have been able to overcome that. And that's going to be Jalen's charge. But he's really talented. And I will say this, like he works incredibly hard. He works incredibly hard. and it wasn't right away that Pinnix was able to succeed under Cailin DeBore. You know, Pinnix at Indiana under DeBore wasn't Pinnix. He was often injured.

And then he transferred and went to Washington and started to have all that success with an unbelievable wide receiver core around him. And hopefully for Jalen, he can develop some of those traits moving forward. Finally, you were drafted by Major League Baseball team. You played minor league baseball. This torpedo bats fascinating with. They've shifted a little right to the barrel to the label. I said it's like Gordon Ramsey's good regardless,

but if you give him the freshest seafood and the freshest ingredients, it's jet fuel to a great chef. The twins had it all last weekend and couldn't hit. The Yankees who led baseball at homers last year are off to a torrid start. What do you make of it? Listen, I love it. I love the innovation. and my question is, let me, like I'll throw it back to you.

How many home runs do you think they hit with regular bats? Probably a lot, to your point, right? Like this is Ramsey with good ingredients. These are really good hitters. You know, you give it to a team that doesn't know how to hit, and it's like, well, are they going to do the damage that the Yankees were able to do? I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I will tell you this, that the innovation, baseball has been very slow over the years. And this is something that I can get behind. And I just love, wasn't it the guy that was like a, he was like a scientist? And then he was, didn't he work for NASA? And now all of a sudden he's in baseball. And he invents this bat. I love it.

I absolutely love it. Yeah. It's almost like HGH was creating great where great didn't exist. This is enhancing great where it already exists. You're just taking guys and saying, yeah, that, that, that, that, uh, line drive to short as a double. Or that line drive to short and that drops in for a long single. So I don't know.

And I believe that the theory is just that like you get higher exit velocity because the mass is greater at the point of contact. Isn't that the theory behind it? Well, I dropped out of MIT after my second year, so I don't have that down yet. Got it. I love it. Good to see you, buddy. Joel clap.

You as well. You as well. See you, dude. All right. Yeah. I think it's fun. I mean, it's, it's, so when I was a kid, I don't know what the rest of you, but we all collected some level of baseball cards, but I used to be fascinated in the paper, in my little hometown paper, you'd go to the batting leaders and the R-by-I leaders, and they listed them like every, every day. And I was just, I was like memorizing stuff.

And so even now as an adult, sometimes randomly, I'll go to like, who leads baseball and, you know, batting average. There's just a lot of teams sitting 240 in the last decade. And you're like, you can't have half the team sitting under 255. Like, you need more action. Some of it was defensive shift. And so that's why I asked Rob Manfred. Like, you lower the mound or something. This has literally found the solution.

They found a solution. Now you've got like six, seven teams sitting in 290. And it's not extending the time of the game. It's just more hits and more action. It's great. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. All right, we got a developing situation in Dallas. Oh, and I don't want to go overboard here. but Jerry Jones talked to the media and things are getting wacky, okay? So it was reported the Cowboys had offered Micah Parsons a contract that would make him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history. Parsons agent, David Mulliggetta, who's kind of a big deal out there. He's had some big names.

He was not involved in the negotiations. Uh-oh. Jerry's trying to cut out the middleman. So on the facility earlier today, Emmanuel Acho cleared up some of the confusion. Because of the confusion, I called Moologeta myself, and where the cowboys are currently at is they brought Michael Parsons in to talk about the deal. Michael Parsons said, hey, thanks for bringing me in to talk about the deal, but I'm not agreeing to anything until y'all talk to my agent. So it sounds like Jerry, no. It sounds like Jerry wanted to go around the agent of Micah, go directly to Micah to negotiate said deal.

Oh, that is saucy. Agents do not, that infuriates the agent. If you're Jerry, you don't want to deal with this guy. He resets the market for all of his clients. So Jerry, understandably, I don't want to deal with this guy. Let me talk to my guy, Micah Parsons, thinking, like the personal relationship. Agents don't like that. Of course not.

So Jerry then met with the media, and he's like, yeah, his agent, I don't even know what his name is, which is kind of disrespectful. Oh, that's saucy. Everybody's played that card before, and this is fixing to get ugly in Dallas. and now Micah Parsons is out there on social media, as you can see, pumping up his agent. Listen, I don't want to blast Jerry Jones. Let's see what ends up happening. I don't know his name. That's kind of a...

People get ticked off when you do that. I've told you ultimate move if you're driving, somebody middle fingers you. You don't middle finger the back. You just put the thumbs down. Why? And people get super, super angry. Somebody did it to me once, and I was living. Because I'm a great driver.

I know that. So I think the whole, I don't even know this guy's name is on par with the thumbs down to a driver. It's really, this guy's going to be ticked off. Jerry is now going to have to get into a back and forth with the agent, Michael Parsons. It is, it's just a constant disaster in Dallas, Colin. I'm kind of sort of loving this. Anyways, let's move on to Rahim Morris, said the Falcons are willing to trade Kirk Cousins if there's a deal that works for both sides. Diana Rusini said today, she wouldn't be surprised to see cousins in.

it, Colin, Cleveland, and we know a ton of teams are looking for quarterbacks. That's depressing. Well, I mean, remember, I said that earlier. There is momentum in Cleveland that, hey, we're getting Kirk Cousins. If we don't draft Shadour, we'll get Kirk. But there is another theory from Brown's fans. Hey, let's take Travis Hunter at two, right? And if everybody passes on Shadur, we can then trade back into the middle, late first

round grabbed Shadour and they get Travis Hunter and Shadour Sanders in Cleveland. That could be in play. I don't know what you'd have to give up to get back in the first, but I just don't understand what you're doing going Kirk Cousins. I'm just telling you, if he looks as washed as he did in Atlanta and you win five or six games, is Stefanski the coach again next year? I honestly, this is so strange, but I already know three teams that are going to be drafting in the top six next year. Next year. Jets. Giants and Cleveland. Well, Cleveland, they don't take Shadour, right?

I mean, it's... The idea that Kirk Cousins... New Orleans will not... New Orleans will not be great either. Yet, New Orleans is a sleeper to take Shudor Sanders, I think at eight or nine, wherever they're drafting in the top ten. There is such a defined bottom of the league now. I never felt that until last two years.

I felt like... Because the league has become so quarterback reliant, if you don't have one, bad. Do you think Kirk Cousins bounces back? No. I think he'll be a better, he'll be somewhere between what he was until Thanksgiving and what he was after Thanksgiving. He'll be somewhere in the... Well, after Thanksgiving, he looked like your high school quarterback tape. I mean, couldn't throw an eight-yard out. I mean, it was bleak. Remember that pick six? It cost me some money. I never had one of those picks a six. You never had one of those. Okay. We didn't throw

much. Okay, QB1. Final story is about, you know, your favorite guy, Aaron Rogers. So Art Rudy the second has chimed in on the Steelers and Rogers. He said he sees positive signs on the team signing Rogers. I don't know what positive signs means, but... Well, that probably means that Aaron's rep and Aaron have said, we feel pretty good about it. We're not going to put pen to paper, but Aaron practice with D.K. Metcalf, that's a pretty encouraging sign.

Oh, yeah. You know, can I just say, you know, how some things look the part, but then you get there and they're not the part. Like, you know, it could be a hotel reservation or a golf course or, you know, certain things they just, they sell themselves very well, and then you get there and you got a GM in Pittsburgh right now. I'm not sure Omar Khan is the guy. They didn't do an outside search.

He's been there forever. Mike Tomlin, he's been lapped offensively. They have a ton of money on defense, getting a little older on defense. I think Pittsburgh, they've been so relevant for so long. There's this feeling that they're this, and they're really not close to a Super Bowl bubble. Notre Dame has gone through stages like this in their history. Like after Lou Holtz until about year five with Brian Kelly, we talked about Notre Dame. Now, Brian Kelly lasts three years and Marcus Freeman are different.

But there was like a 15-year gap that Notre Dame, everybody talked about him. but they were a mile from competing with the second best, third best team in the SEC. And I feel like Pittsburgh's like, they've been lapsed. They're not relevant. Yeah, it's tough. Did you ever see the movie Clueless Alicia Silverstone? No. Oh, gosh.

Why? So I'm pretty sure it was clueless, but they called it like a Monet where far away, the person looks really, really good. Then you get up close and you're like, ooh, not so much. Is that kind of like the Steelers? Yeah. Yeah, I think... You get up close and looking at it. This is not familiar.

You know what? There's a lot of Vegas casinos like that. A lot of flashing lights, and then you get inside and you have, you stay the, and I've done that before. You go to one of the rooms and you're like, yeah, that's why I go to the four seasons. Yeah. When I go to Vegas, like... Yeah, I mean, there's just a lot of, there's been a lot of use.

I mean, hotel rooms in Vegas are treated like rental cars. Like, nobody treats a hotel in Vegas like they would treat their house. Yeah. And so, you know, and Pittsburgh, ooh, the Steelers, the helmet, the trophies, Mike Tomlin, the defense. I don't like what I hear and see. Have you ever turned on a black light in a Vegas hotel room? No, and I can imagine what's there. I don't need to go to detail.

Michael Scott made a great comment on the office back in the day. That's either, I won't say, I don't want to get in trouble. I can imagine what the joke is. It's really funny. Jay Mack with the news. Oh, whatever. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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I can't get over the torpedo bat. It's like we have six, seven teams now. People are averaging six runs a game. Baseball has solved so many issues in the last two years. Speed it up, bigger bases, more runners, more runs. Like they've just solved. It's like NBA, are you watching this? Like that, NFL is always changing.

Baseball has had an unbelievable two years of change. changes, and they've all worked. It's like NBA, you can sit on your hands, but your AAU system is bad. The G League gets in the way of marketing and promoting your players. You've got too much repetitiveness on three-pointers, and nobody cares about the regular season, including your star players. Like, NBA, you've always been the progressive make-changes model. Like, baseball has had two years of, like, six changes, and they're six.

for six. They all work. A lot of it had to do, I think, Otani going to the Dodgers. That helps. That was enormous. That would be the equivalent of kind of Luca to the Lakers, or if Kevin Durant this summer goes, I don't know, Boston, where, Knicks. If Kevin Durant goes to the Knicks,

there's two moves that are really going to help the NBA. Kevin Durant to the Celtics or Knicks, and Cooper Flagg goes either with Wemby or goes to Chicago. And you will be like, okay. Cooper Flack and Wemby. Oh, I didn't even thought about that. No, he goes with Wemby

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We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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Oh, that's a good one. That'll be a good watch. Good weekend watch. By the way, J-Mack had me watch White Lotus, so I went on vacation. I was forced to watch season three. Forced? No? Nope.

But I did watch on Netflix. Hold on, time out, time out. Who's your favorite character on season three White Lotus? I hate all of them. Everybody? I think everybody's unlikable. That's your kind of show. I think the pop star is cute.

Oh, I love her. Yeah, she's adorable. Everybody else is completely unlikable. Instead, I waited for my show on Netflix yesterday called GoneGone. girl. It's about the Suffolk County 30-year serial killer. That was fascinating. Just it dropped yesterday. So it's called gone. It's fascinating. You're all over these Netflix drops. I like docks and true crime. You like fluffy, make pretend movies. I love that. Creativity. I'm sorry. I like creative, interesting people. As opposed to real crime. They're so over the top. It's just

what do you think you're a detective? You try to solve these crimes? Yeah. Interesting. I'd love to be a detective. I would love to be a Navy SEAL. Okay. Well, I think you have to be at least five, four. Oh, come on. Are you kidding me? So it's funny, I know a former Navy SEAL, I can't reveal his name. He coached Hoops. We've become friendly, and I told him I want to do a Navy SEAL workout. So I will report back to you. He's a pretty, pretty jacked individual. Yeah, I'd rather go to an aquarium and watch the SEALs.

We had Gianni Infantino earlier, the president of FIFA. And we were talking about, I said, listen, we're going to have the World Cup here and the club World Cup here in the next two summers and it'll it's there's a 400% increase in soccer fans created in America in the last 12 months so this is we got some players and people get excited about this stuff so it's just good for the overall global sport it's good for United States men's and women soccer but I asked him about his message to US soccer you know you are the United States of America right the greatest country in the world you are number one in kind of everything you do, you cannot be satisfied to be number 20 in the number one sport in the world.

You want to be number one in the number one sport. So let's go for it. Yeah. I mean, despite what our media tells you, we are a pretty good place to live. And so the media hates America, but most of us like it. No, I think it's, I can't wait. I'm very excited. And I will say this, you know, they call it a beautiful game.

There is what is really good if you ever go over to Europe. and you're ever over, like, let's say, in England, and they have their English Premier League matches, it is fascinating. It is unbelievable. It's just like the NFL over here. Like, everybody's glued to a TV. You can walk anywhere outside the pubs, have a pint.

It's just great. There's just nothing like it. And Mbapé appears to be one of the two or three best players we've had in the last 30 years. He's kind of their LeBron. He's an all-time talent, and you are watching him. Also, today, we had Albuquer. Brearren. And you know, we were

I said, you know, I think Aaron Rogers loves football and loves playing it, but there's not a great offer and Pittsburgh's sort of a okay offer, but he doesn't want to quit. He wants to play.

Albert Breer responded to that. The perfect place would have been Minnesota. Minnesota wants to get a longer look at J.J. McCarthy. And again, we've been over this before, Colin. Like, if they bring Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones, like that's much different than bringing in Aaron Rogers, where if you bring in Aaron Rogers, you are just jamming on the pause button on the

J.J. McCarthy era at best. I think one thing the Steelers have going for them. The young offensive line's gotten better. They also have peers of his on his team that are going to be operating with the same level of urgency. Veteran players, guys like T.J. Watt, who will be 31. Make of Fitzpatrick will be 29. Cam Hayward, who I believe is going into his 14th years in NFL player. DK Metcast now on his third contract. This is jumping on a moving train. Yeah, I don't know. Just don't like it.

But you know, Aaron's one of those, if you want, I feel bad because I think he's trapped. I think he loves football. I think he loves playing it. He gets great joy out of it. And what happens if, you know, in my field, if you love doing a talk show and you hit a point where there's no great options and you don't want to stop doing it, forget the income, you just like doing it? so I feel like Aaron was hoping the Minnesota thing became true knew the division, loved the coach, Justin Jefferson,

upgraded their O-line. I think he really wanted to go to Minnesota. I think he'd really go to San Francisco tomorrow. And I think he's going to settle for Pittsburgh, a defensive culture where they cannot get the O-line right. And they lost their left tackle, and they lost Naji Harris. So, yeah, I just, I just, Joe Burrow twice a year,

Lamar Jackson twice a year. All right, the Crown, the Fox Sports created basketball tournament. How about that? DePaul and Cincinnati on FS1. So this is a good little basketball tournament yesterday, watching Butlerie yesterday. We will see you tomorrow live in Los Angeles. It's the hurt. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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