The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - The Rise of Jordan Love

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Colin talks about the meteoric rise of Jordan Love who thrives over the Cowboys on Super Wildcard Weekend. LeSean McCoy stops by to talk about the Eagles ahead of their Buccaneers matchup, and more storylines from the NFL playoffs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I like Philly tonight. And they've been a bit of a tire fire for about a month and a half off. It may be longer than that. So I like them tonight. Shady McCoy is going to be joining us. J. Mack. What a crazy, crazy weekend. We're waiting for the Steelers' Bills game.

That starts in about two hours. two and a half hours. That'll give us some clarity on the AFC picture. Green Bay. Well, listen, Cowboys lost, coach, probably toast. If the Eagles lose, I think

you and I agree, Siriani could be in some trouble. We haven't brought this team up, but Buffalo Bills made a great run. If they lose that home to Pittsburgh, I mean, do you have to ask questions about McDermott? They will have slipped down the hill three straight years in the playoffs.

This weather could be a real bad break for Buffalo. What if neither team can score? I mean, I saw a picture five minutes ago. Good luck. I mean, Kansas City was clear. Yeah. Good luck. And by the way, Buffalo lost a day now if they have to play the Chiefs next

on just five days' rest. Kansas City get now two extra days with this game pushback. Not ideal for Buffalo, man. Yeah. Well, Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys were ousted from the playoffs after an embarrassing, humiliating loss to Green Bay, and although I've defended McCarthy all season long, last night was simply a debacle in Dallas.

But I did say, okay, he's got to beat Green Bay. I figured they would. Kind of comfortably? To get routed down 27 to nothing at one point, first half, at home by the youngest playoff team with a first year starting quarterback. Okay, now we have to have a completely different conversation. Opinions change when results are jarring.

By the second drive, analyst Greg Olson, was appropriately asking about personnel packages, head scratching stuff, play selection, defensive alignment. I mean, and everybody in, can we have a real conversation now? Can we get uncomfortable, although it's like an adult conversation, about the evaluation of DAC. He's now 2 and 5 in the playoffs, and you watched he and Jordan Love. It wasn't even close.

Jordan Love's just a better player. Have you never seen those two quarterbacks ever play? You land on planet Earth and you watch the game. Dak, the eight-year veteran, looked rattled and anxious and nervous and rattling inaccurate. His ball placement was mostly awful. C.D. Lamb could feel it. And he had the better old line.

He was at home. He'd been in this situation before. He had a number one receiver. If Jerry Jones wants to pay Dack like Mahomes and he does, my question is, how good of a job is this? Dax cap hit next year is $59.5 million. If you're paying a slightly better than average quarterback, 59.5 million, you're not a legitimate Super Bowl team.

Now, I got reeled by this team. team for the first time in two decades. But I mean, the playoffs create clarity and truth. Stafford, Gough, Mahomes, Jordan Love, C.J. Stroud were all really, really good. Why? Because they're really, really talented, some sooner than we thought. But let's be honest about the Cowboys this morning. Blown out by San Francisco couldn't compete.

Blown out by Buffalo didn't really compete. blown out by the young Packers couldn't really compete, beaten by that fraud, Miami, and the only reason they beat playoff Detroit was an officiating technicality. You could argue they were outplayed. They're just an average team. And I got fooled, and I usually don't.

I've said for decades on radio and TV, pretty good. Tony Romo's pretty good. Dax's pretty good. Cowboys, pretty good. Jason Garrett, Mike McCart, pretty good. I always kind of, that is my default answer for the Cowboys. But for about a six-game stretch, as they beat up on bad teams and looked really, really good, I thought, okay, this is the year.

And then they went to Miami, gagged it away, and I came on the year of the next day and said, yeah, my bad. I got reeled in, cowboy hype, my bad. But they need to get smarter at head coach. I mean, they weren't prepared. They're lined up in the wrong spots. I mean, Greg Olson's second series. They're just lined up in the wrong spot.

Dumb special teams plays. They have to get smarter at head coach. And they've got to rework, at least rework Dax contract. Give them some money up front. And they have to start drafting quarterbacks every year. They have to. Colin, calling the opinion. Opinions change when results are jarring.

Trailing 27 nothing at home. Jordan Love's first playoff appearance. Green Bay's got. kids all over that offense. Green Bay's on the road, a big underdog. It can't look like that. It can't look like that. And it's not just McCarthy. Take out that win over Tampa in the playoffs. That shaky Tampa T. Dax's one in five. And did not look like when you watch the top quarterbacks this weekend, he was not one of them. C.J. Stroud

significantly better. Jordan Love significantly more nimble and accurate. Jerry and Dack after. I can't reach back and look at the playoff loss. But this

seems like the most painful because we all had such great expectation and we had hope for this team. and thought that we were aligned in a great shape and great shape,

and it didn't happen for us. I sucked tonight, though. That was it. As I said, got it going a little bit late, but none of that mattered at that point. And fault, that's all I really know how to do. But, yeah, I mean, it's about winning, and it's about winning in the playoffs

and getting to the last game. and winning that as well. And yeah, tough. It's not just about winning. It's about looking like you belong at home. 4816, 27-0. You were never winning. How about just competing?

Stacking up. Really bad. Changes need to be made. Let's talk Packers. That's more joyful. I have never seen. seen in my life, an in-season improvement of a quarterback ever like Jordan Love. From week eight at home against the Vikings, October 29th, can't play. Can't play.

Coaching staff, ripping him after the game. Two, you know, he's better than Aaron Rogers. I mean, Matt LaFleur has done an unbelievable job. 21 TDs one pick in the last nine games, completing over 71% of his throws. Athleticism, confidence, accuracy. That by-week renovation is unbelievable. He literally went from, can't make the cut at the Valero Open to leading the Masters

by nine strokes on Saturday in about four weeks. I've never seen anything like it. Now, this is what great offensive coaches often do with their young quarterbacks. Big leaps. but from that to this,

I'm not exaggerating. He's cheaper than Aaron. He's more athletic than Aaron. He gets along with his young receivers better. There's no drama. And let's just add this. He may throw it better than Aaron. Now, all people, all kids age at different speeds.

And Green Bay was very frustrated with him. I know you're all experts, but, you know, let's not revise history. He was bad. Bad. I was looking at stats this morning. Before the buy, he was completing a T-Bow level, 55% of his throws in his 77 pass-er rating. That's what he was. After the buy, he's like far in his prime.

68% completion percentage and 106 pass-er rating. And the Packers got frustrated. They were critical of him. They were upset with him. But they were also patient. And this is what Green Bay does. And then you add in the drafting of these tight ends and these wide receivers. Listen, this is not just Dallas played poorly.

That's not just what this is. Green Bay is a problem. I've talked to general managers for the last three or four years. Nobody can get a second good corner. Green Bay's got five receivers I like and two tight ends and they're not paying any of them. Which means they can go buy other pieces. They are a match-up problem. Those young receivers, I mean, yesterday, Jaden Reed didn't even have a

catch. He's the most talented one they have. So Fav to Rogers to Jordan Love. I mean, I, that's like, I mean, that's, that's three hole and ones in the same tournament. Like, that's incredible. Never seen anything like it. I mean, we thought Montana to Steve Young to Jeff Garcia was pretty good. I mean, this is incredible. And what, what I love about this is that what make sport so great, or not just the upsets, but it's the player development. Listen to even Matt LaFleur can't quite wrap his brain around what he saw. Jordan Love, wow. That's about all I can say, beat is wow.

What he did and the poise he shows, the command he shows, it just shows the growth that he's had from his, his first start versus KC to now. Just so proud and happy for him. He is, he is, he's a dude. He is a real dude. When the coach who sees him, teaches him, mentors him every day at practice, is doing that.

Like, wow. Like, he surprised everybody. But this is what Green Bay does. It's what hardworking kids do. it's what great offensive coaches who have a sensibility and feel for it have proven time and time again but this is not don't take this as hey Dallas just played poorly now green bay is a problem green bay is going to be a problem for that division in that conference and this league for long time all right eagles play tonight in Tampa former eagle well Sean McCoy stops by next

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He'll be on Speak at 430 Eastern. Oh, yeah. So first of all, let's talk about the. Cowboys loss. It's very easy to just blame, blame, blame. I do think we have to acknowledge Jordan Love, Matt Lefleur, how they created a run game early. Some of this is nobody's got two and three good corners. I think there's a matchup. I don't think Dallas had the personnel. I'm about saying they matched up very, very well. Yeah, Jordan Love played phenomenal. And then he played really, really well, and he still could have played a lot better, right? This is from

watching. Even some of his passes he threw, probably better on the timing. But They got, Green Bay has another superstar quarterback. And then you talk about the matchups. I think on the defense, number 25, Vaughn, I was in the slot. He played really, really well, right? Alexander, you know what type of player he is. They just had his team dialed up, right? I think, you know, the Cowboys, they're just so talented.

But I feel like when the big moments, they don't give you what you thought you're going to get. How did you view the Cowboys when you were an Eagle? How did you look at them? Well, back then they had Tony Romer, who was. was really, really good. The thing with them was like, hey, we're going to just, we get a couple stops on defense because their defense can't stop our offense, right?

It was that type of game. But I think now they're way more talented. If you look at this, the Cowboys roster in general, I mean, you can see the All-Pro list. There's so many, for first team, the second-team all-proes on that roster because they're that good. And to see it lost like that is terrible.

27-0 at one point. That's embarrassing. You're not going to move off DAC. You know, you're not going to move off two. You don't just leave a quarterback who's capable. but could I make an argument? I watched the Rams offense. I watch Green Bayes.

I watch Kansas City, and it's multiple and clever in motion. And then I watch Dallas, and I'm like, is it time to make a move at head coach? I mean, honestly, I like McCarthy. I think he's done a great job with Dad Prescott. Once he decided to take over the officer coordinator of role,

I want to see what that looked like. He was right. He did a phenomenal job. I've never seen Dak look so elite in the regular season like he did, since Mike McCarthy. Even look at the beginning, of the year, it was a lot more running,

a lot more conservative offense. And as that got better and more comfortable, right? And they got confidence with each other. The offense grew a little bit. You like Mike? I like Mike, yeah. And he's been winning since he's been a cowboy. I think the last coach was Garrett. Yeah. And he wasn't really a winner. But you can win with this team. I just think that

when the lights are bright, you've got to deliver. And their quarterback, that's not what he does best. Regular season, he's going to give you some wins. Regular season, you don't talk about. Man, this kid, he's this. He's that in the third. until it's prime time TV on the playoffs. You can have a winning record through the whole season.

But in January, it's all that matters. And you look at his January record, it is not good. Well, you've been critical of Jalen Hertz. As Philadelphia's offense has regressed badly. Yeah. We'll watch him tonight. Does he get some of the hit too? Well, I wouldn't give him the same type of criticism I would give a DAC.

I mean, Jalen's still a young quarterback, right? And I think if you really watch Jalen and watch his tape, each year he gets better and better and better. Now, this year he's having a bad year. But the team's having a bad year. Defense, they can't stop anybody. They're the worst team in third downs, right? But it's the best down in football.

It's a good team. And we're not playing efficient football nowhere on the Eagles from offense and defense. So as much as we want to give Jayland Hertz to blame, which he deserves a lot of that. But I got to look at the whole team. We're not playing well at all. Even on the coaches.

I don't think this year the coaches had a really good job with the Eagles. Well, they lost great coordinators. And that's another thing. happens. When you have success, you lose all your coordinators. That's what happens. They get new jobs. Right. But I think in the future will be better. I want to see how this game goes tonight. The bucks are not really a good team.

You know AJ Brown. So he scrubbed his social media accounts. Can you give us clarity on what happened? What's going on? Is he up? I'll throw my theory at you. You'll tell me if I'm full of you know what. Is that they looked at the game plan. Have I told you this? So they look at the game plan.

And the game plan for Tampa and they came up with it Tuesday was we're going to pass the ball 15 times. We're going to run this ball. Right. The whole game. And AJ Brown, after one practice, said, after the install, right, said, come on, man.

I didn't get a touchdown in December and said, we're not going to go. And the offensive game plan, the install is, we're going to run this ball 48 times. Right. And he's not heard he's ticked off. Okay, am I wrong? Well, I mean, I don't know what the situation is. I'll just say this.

When you scrub your social, it's not an ankle twist. Yeah, I mean, but I guess the new thing nowadays, all the players are doing that, right? If they're looking for a contract, they scrubbing the page of the team. But I think what AJ Brown is, he's like every other superstar wide receiver. I always say this. Name me a receiver that was just okay with not getting the ball or okay but not having a productive day. I've never played one like that, right? And I won't get it to names, but they all are like that.

They all are premed-nodied. They want the ball. That's what number one, they always are like that. Right. So I'm not sure if it's the scrubbing of the page. for him, but I think he is hurt, right? I think he's one of guys he plays to all type of injuries. He's a super tough and physical player.

Oh, he's great player. You know, but I do think the chemistry with the Eagles, man, as you see like the smiles and interviews from last year to this year, it's not that. It's a little tense. It's a little tense, and there's no answer to why we're playing so bad. What happens? I think it's unlikely. What happens if they get dragged tonight?

No, no, I'm not talking. What if it is 33? Because the defense can't stop anybody. Baker gets hot. 33-16. There are a lot of rumors. Nick Sariani's in trouble. Would you make a move?

Philly makes moves. Yes, we do. I guess I'm the wrong guy because I like Nick Sariani. I think he's a hell of a coach. Not wrong with that. Right? And the only thing is you are playing in Philadelphia, right? And if you don't have that thick skin, you will not last.

You see how Ben Simmons is how he fizzled out. You just couldn't do it. And I think the defense and the media. Standard. That's what they are. Yo, we're not going to Super Bowl. We're not going to playoffs. We're not winning.

They starts raising questions. It's a loud city. It is. So if they don't win, I'm not surprised if people will come for Nick Seriana's job. I think he should remain a coach for our team because not only did he didn't do well to share his staff didn't do well, but the players in our system and our team,

they did not play well. And the last time I checked, you need the players to go out there and play. Coaches can only just put you in a position to make plays. So overall, we just not playing good. I know we sound crazy on Monday talking about firing coaches, but it is different. If you're Dallas and you're a touchdown favorite,

you have to contextualize it. And Green Bay is the youngest playoff team since the 74 bills, and they lead 27-0. Okay, that's different. We have to have a grown-up conversation. So I think if Philadelphia goes and gets dragged, again, if they lose in overtime, they play well, there's a bad officiating call, that's different than getting smoked,

and Baker Mayfield throws for 340. Then we have to sit down and have a conversation. Especially if Baker kills them. I mean, I would agree with you that. I like Baker, but I'm just saying that defense. It is possible. I've watched Phillies. It is possible that Tampa controls the line of scrimmage.

Listen, everything you're saying is true. I hope you're wrong, but everything you're saying is factual because we all year been like that. We let the freaking struggling giants blow us out. We let the coronals who try to get the draft pick beat it. So you got a point. I just think with the Dallas team, I think they were playing a lot better, right, through the season more consistent.

And also, I feel like at home, there's not another team that has the best advantage playing at home than the Cowboys. That's all they do was win at home. Not only do they win at home, they blow people out at home. So for them to lose like that, I guess that conversation about,

so the coach get fired, to the players get moved, I get that. But as far in Philadelphia, I mean, we're not good this year. Honestly, we're not good this year, right? Or we at least haven't been good lately.

And then I look at the bucks, they're not really a good team like that. That's some talent, right? Mike Evans and some guys on defense. it'll be a good game. But to get dragged, if we get dragged, yeah, I think that question is going to be Philadelphia. Like, what's going to happen? All right, two hours from now, the Bills in 18 degrees host the Steelers. We have some video of you as a bill in a cold weather game against Indy. You tell me as an offensive skill player, did you like cold weather? Did you like snow? Yeah. Why? I love it. I love the cold weather. I love the snow. It separates the men from the boys.

When it's this cold, you don't want to be out of hitting people running. Your feet hurt, you know, your big toe hurts. I mean, serious. Like, all these things really happen. But I think if you have that mentality and that mindset, that no matter, nothing will hold you back, you know, that's what makes the men from the boys. I mean, this game right here, it was fun because as a running back,

people don't understand this, but imagine if everybody on the field is running and hits you at 100%. Now on the snow, it's reduced to like 65%, right? So the impact is not as much. And then when they slam you on the ground, it's soft. It's pillows. It's soft. So I love the snow games.

Okay. So Tua did not play well. No, he did not. And my take is, okay, Hawaii High School, Bama, Miami, we don't think he's going to be Big Ben in the snow. No. Can we just say, you don't move off him. If the game's at home, he's still a very good quarterback in warm weather. But there are players that need certain conditions.

And we just have to have this conversation. Two is not going to go to Baltimore and nine degrees in winter Kansas City, Cincinnati. So home field, regular season becomes imperative, not for everybody. Yeah. Right. Like, you know this, Shady. For a lot of teams, a veteran team in the NBA playoffs. Right. They don't need home court. They don't. Warriors could go to Boston and win. That's true. But for Memphis, they got to be at home. That's a good point. And I look at two and I think, okay, he's just going to be a player. Got to be a home playoff game. He's not going to nine degrees. Right. Is that a realistic way to

a look at it. I agree with that. The only thing that scares me about commence to tool for the long haul, because I do think he's a good quarterback. I think he's found a home with Miami. This is because of how the head coach Sony God, you see the instant impact, right? And they like each other. They like to get some wide receivers, they're making plays.

Only that scares me about tool is I don't look at, I don't look at the Miami Dolphins as a team that's going to be the favorite in the West, right? So you look at the bills, they're always going to be a top team. The Chiefs, probably going to be the ones, some young guys. Ravens. They're always going to have the advantage as far as the playoffs.

So now I'm thinking, okay, well, that means Miami. That made the playoffs, but they got to go on the road. And you watch Tool on the road, he didn't want, he like he belonged there. It's so cold, I need to get out of here. Couldn't throw fire out. So I'm thinking like for the future, if you think this team's going to be a playoff team, but you don't think they're going to be better than the bills. Do you have to move off him?

That's the question you got to ask. I think you, I think it is, there are people in sports that are conditionally very good. Yeah. There are some conditions. And I like to, and McDaniel, I just think you have to know going in. Hey, our regular season is really important. Our seating is going to matter for two. I can still draft a quarterback in the third round.

I don't have to move up and sell the farm to get a first round quarterback. Because I think, by the way, next September, it'll be 94 in Miami. They'll be real good. And you're not paying him anything. He got to win the big ones for me also. I'm tired of seeing, you know, a team that's so talented like the Dolpherson. You know how hard it is to get a team that good, that talented, that fits the scheme? Right? You find a lot of talent, but sometimes the talent don't really go together with the scheme, what the coach wants to do.

They have that there. So what's the question why that can't beat none of the top teams? What is it? Then you take it to the role in the playoffs, and you don't like you even belong on the same fit as the Chiefs. I know. If Kansas City was good in the Red Zone, it had been 42 to 7. And they haven't even been good lately, right? The Chiefs are still trying to find their way.

So if you're struggling against a team that's trying to find their way, who are? you wish your identity that's the only thing about two i like two i think he's a talented quarterback super smart um you know great accuracy smart but i need to see it when it matters i get it all right finally um Detroit Lions give it up for Detroit though come on your whole career they were damn Campbell i like it baby so what do you um that was a great game by the way great game i think that it was a both quarterbacks were slinging it um Is this a team that could beat in Niners? Could they beat the Niners?

You know what I would say about this team? That old line. They can beat anybody, right? I'm favorite the Niners. But I was watching tape on Denver, Detroit versus, who did they? The Cowboys, on the road. And I'm like, yo, they battle their tails off against Dallas on the road, which teams lose to Dallas on the road.

They get blown out. And I watched the way they ran the ball. I watched the way that on third downs, how golf played. I watched how that defense made plays when they need to make them. So they got a good chance to beat anybody. It's just a matter of getting that running game going. If they don't get the running game going, they can be in trouble. Hey, you only played in Kansas City for what a year?

You one year, yeah. Andy Reed Snow. Andy. You know, even though you were only there a year, the thing I always respect about him, the Hunt family, Brett Beach, Reed. Breach is amazing, too. One of the things that I think we forget about this, League. You know, I asked Jimmy Johnson one time. I said,

most important thing in the draft, he goes, you got to draft smart players. Come on. They can't learn the playbook. It's a waste of my time. I just think when New England had the dynasty, they weren't the most talented team. But they were so functional. And when I watched Kansas City to play like that in that game, and I'm like, no, I'm not surprised. Because smart people figured out.

When you were there for a year, did you take some of that away, just the way the way the operation works. Now, remember, I play with Andy and in Philadelphia. Oh, you play with... You know, Andy and Bert Vise, they draft all the best top players. Yeah, so I was drafted with Andy Reid first in Philadelphia. Yeah. So when I went to Kansas City, it was the same thing. He runs the same

type of franchise, right? It's smart players, right? You're not going to beat yourself. So Kansas City felt like Philly? Oh, man. Yeah, the same talent. I mean, think about it, we had Sean Jackson and as wide receiver. He had Tyree Hill as Y receiver. Like, everything's the same.

That's how he drafts. He drives speed. He draft smart players. And the thing about Andy, I love is that he lets everybody be themselves. He wants you to be comfortable. If you watch the way that Patrick Mahomes played in college at Texas Tech, he takes a little bit of that, right?

And he puts it to his own style with Andy Reed. Andy Reid got some coaching, coaches up a little bit. But also, hey, I want some of that Texas Tech player. Be who you are. That's what got you here. So when you watch Andy Reid and the young players, I was telling the guys on speak that, yeah, they're struggling right now because they are young.

They're younger and they're asked to do so much right now. And the head guy in the receiver room or the office room is Kelsey. He's not really playing the Kelsey ball that we know. So it makes the young guys got to step up. But when they click, when they get it, oh, my. It takes a while. It takes a while. You're a rookie.

Is it a complicated system? Yeah. Ain't any like smart players, right? And he won't dumb it down. He might dumb it that for the quarterbacks because they're the main piece. Right. But as far as the running backs and grab receivers, oh, you got to get it. You got to understand it and know it.

If not, you will not play. So you see sometimes, like, if miscommunication with maybe Patrick Mahon's or receiver, where he's thinking, past the helmet, you should sit it down because it's a zone there. It's a guy there in the opposite where it keeps going. Like small things like that, that's just a matter of the experience part. But once they get it over there, they're going to be the same thing we've seen last year. Because that's what Andy runs. He runs a smart system.

And the piece that he needs to be really, really good he has in Travis Kelston. He has in Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Good to see you, buddy. Always good. We always have a good time. Good times. J-Mack with a news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Shady likes a good time. You know, Matt Stafford did not have a good time yesterday. How about his hand got ripped up? Matt was ball and. He was playing out an amazing game, but he got paid up so bad.

I felt bad for Stafford, man. He had a great last three months. It's worth it. It's worth it, bro. It's worth it. Yeah, this kid was tremendous. Tough 24, 23 loss. And, you know, Stafford spoke about how.

impressed he was with his team this season after the L. I'm so proud of this team. All the guys that, you know, worked their tail off to get us to this point. It said it earlier in the week. Nobody gave us a chance to even be sniffing where we are right now. And, you know, gave a really good football team and run for their money. Didn't get it done. But I'm proud of the guys, proud of their efforts from coaching staff, players,

everybody involved in it. It was a fun year, a hell of a year, and something to be proud of. You know, it's interesting. So I'm watching Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is one of those guys. He still gets triple team regularly. Like twice in the game they single-blocked him, and he blew off a play,

is that people are speculating that Aaron Donald's leaving. The Rams need to go by an edge rusher because they have some cap space now, some, because they're so young. If they can go by, remember how Aaron Donald was so great? He's always been great, but when they got Von Miller, it's hard to double him. There were multiple shots during the,

this game of Donald being triple teened at this age. He is no other player in the league. You can't triple block Miles Garrett. He is triple teamed on multiple snaps in games. Yeah. It is tough. I can't see anything happening with Donald. Maybe a restructure of his deal.

The real interesting one is Cooper Cup, Colin. I'm not saying he lost his step, but the injuries are catching up. There's no question. He's over 30. Well, Puka. Puka looks like a number one. I think we can all agree. It's not like a few games.

Entire season, he was dominant. Yeah. If Cooper doesn't want a restructure, do you say, hey, Carolina, you guys. No, I think, I think. You need a receiver for Bryce Young. Give us up. I think they want to retain Cooper. Yeah, obviously.

It's a guy. He and Puka are both kind of physically hard to bring down players. So in McVeigh's offense, when they get the ball out quickly, those guys after the catch, they're just hard to bring down for smaller corners. So I think what's going to happen is, I mean, I think Aaron, Donald, and Kirkway. Cooper Cup, there are still games in which they're elite players. I don't think, and I also think they're both great leaders.

They're both great locker room guys. They've got cap space. They have to go buy an edge rusher. They need another back, another left tackle, a defensive end. Hit on a couple more draft picks, and they're right there. Remember, this team, I believe, they exceeded their Vegas win total by like five games, one of the most impressive in the league. I think they probably has one more good run in this Stafford with this sport.

Oh, I think so. I absolutely, and by the way, Carson Wentz is strangely a perfect backup. I mean, they don't pay him, and he played against the Niners. By the way, it looks like one report says, Hyby, the tight end, who took that gruesome hit on us. Tyler Higby, sorry, looks like it might have been an ACL there.

Early reports. That was rough on television. Listen, if the Rams had somehow won that game, I think you just unload the account betting against them because they were so beat up. Kairn got hurt. staff. No, no, they were. They don't have a ton of elite depth. The depth isn't there. But they, you know, they've got their one, two, three, four, five, six draft picks, some compensation picks. So they'll be fine.

Next up is the Bill Steelers game. It was postponed from Sunday to today. It kicks off in, I think, a little less than two hours. I don't know, Colin. I thought that the Bill's organization was asking fans to come to the stadium to help shovel the snow. And they were offered $20 an hour. Are you kidding me? A billion dollar organization? organization offering $20 an hour? Yeah, but that's what you pay a babysitter out here in L.A. Are you kidding me? These guys are Buffalo. In this weather, you're shoveling snow for $20?

20 bucks? Get the guys $100 an hour. Well, it's a, it's a Wings and Beer town. That's $20 is $20. I think that's a little disrespect. You're a billion dollar organization. Well, let's, I mean, there's... Come on.

Step it up, Buffalo. Come on. That is terrible. You know what? A lot of people in Buffalo take enormous prize. being part of this organization, you could have gotten some of these people to do it for five bucks an hour. They love their team. They love helping their player. This is my wife used to have to go to Buffalo. She always says, nicest people in America. So they're not sitting there

arguing over hourly wages. They believe, I mean, I saw, who said this? Oh, Dan Campbell said this. He goes, our fans helped us win. Oh, there's no doubt about that in a doubt. No. So, I mean, And to me, Buffalo, this team, this fan base is connected uniquely to this organization. You go out there for three or four hours. You're sitting there, you know, I can't go out on the town. What else is there to do? You're sitting around like, I'm a young guy. I can go make $120.

Be with my buddies, have a cold one and shovel snow? You're all caught up in the hourly way. 120 bucks when you shovel it, so for hours on it? What are you doing? It's like, $4. Pay these guys. Come on. They're your fans. Anyways, final story is the Eagles and their slump. Shady McCoy just

was talking about it, man. They lost five of six. I'm starting to get bad vibes about them tonight. I don't know. I'm on the Eagles. I bet them. I don't understand. I got two and a half. It's a three. You could probably get it two and a half. Who's got better players? Philadelphia. It's more than that. You know that.

I mean, we were bet. Did you say bet on the better quarterback and coach? And like, you know, Cowboys, we thought they had the better coach and quarterback. Well, I bet Green Bay to cover. I thought it was going to be a very close game. Starting to not feel great about the Eagles. I'm not buying out of my position.

I'm with you. I think this is DeAndre Swift over. I think Kenneth Gainwell will do some damage here. I think they're going to run it 45 times tonight. That's what I think it's going to be a... Boston Scott dust him off if he's still available. I would just, if you look at this matchup, I would just say, guys up front, we're running the ball 45 times.

Offensive linemen would always prefer to run block than pass block. weather's not going to be a factor. We're going to beat them up at the line of scrimmage. Now, Baker and these receivers, you don't want to be playing from behind, because Baker, on play action, with these receivers could be a very effective quarterback. Now, the Eagles, I don't think they'll get caught looking ahead,

but they'd play the Lions if they win this game. Oh, I like the Lions over the winner of this game. Correct. That being said, I think it was a season opener last year, Eagles Lions early in the season, and the Eagles were up like a billion before they let the Lions back in the game. That's not a great matchup for Detroit. I will say this. I'm telling you, this,

Eagles' offense should be able to control the pace. I don't think they can stop Amara St. Brown and those guys. I thought I want to see Eagles' lines. I don't want to see I love Detroit. I think that's a great matchup for Detroit. Can Detroit beat Sanford? No, I thought the Rams were a tough

matchup for the Lions. Just because of Pooka, I just thought the ability to move the ball on the back end, and they did in the second half. They just couldn't get in the end zone. I don't think Philadelphia is a tough match. Well, Philadelphia Red Zone offense was awesome earlier this season. By the way, Rams had over 400 yards of offense, 7.7 yards per play. They did whatever they wanted against Alliance. No, I mean, it comes down to that one of those red zone passes is caught. Yeah, listen, if they call that flag on the interference on Puka, they're driving for the game

winning field goal. Lion fans, you've got to be honest. No late hit call on Stafford in 2023, I mean, Ryan, you were all watching. I was surprised. That's a first in gold once they throw that flag. Yeah, I mean, in that play, I have seen pushes on quarterbacks who are out of a play. A push gets flagged. That was helmet to helmet. And then they stepped on him.

I'm like, guys, that is a bad miss. I can live with the no-PI call on puka because people are grabbing the whole game. But quarterbacks getting head-to-head, that's called. Every, that's over called. Do you not remember MVS against the Packers? They tackle him in the open field. No flag. I mean, you got, you got to throw the flags in these high leverage moments.

Yeah, come on. Detroit won. I have no problem. They did. The Lions won. Congrats. That was a miss. Bad miss.

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All that matters is in the playoffs. And that's fair. And I think at a place like Dallas, that comes with the territory. And at the end of the day, the NFL is about scoring. It's about offense. It's an offensive-driven quarterback-driven league. And Dak Prescott played as well as any quarterback in the league from an entire season standpoint. How about this?

That we view the Dallas Cowboys of Dak and McCarston. remain as sort of like a good college football program, like a Wisconsin. Nobody considers them a serious national championship contender, but they can win eight games in a bowl game. And we just have to, and that's nothing against Wisconsin, just considering the state and the players available at the high school level in your vicinity, is that certain college football programs were like eight wins and a bowl win would be a great season.

And like Dallas, if you're going to keep Dak and McCarthy is, you don't have a good season. You can get to the playoffs, but we can't. We can't seriously consider them. Come on. We can't consider them a Super Bowl team. Wisconsin seems a little harsh. Aren't they more like a Pac-12 soft team that wins a lot of games

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I feel like we're overreacting a little bit to the loss. I still think McCarthy's toast, and I don't want to see Dan Quinn back there with the defense. Dan Quinn's hunting for head coaching jobs every offseason. He got his pants pulled down by the Packers and a first time starting quarterback in the playoffs.

Like, that was an awful performance from Quinn's defense. Awful. Yeah, he's not a real viable candidate, right? I mean, I think he's going to Seattle. That would be my guess, right? I don't get that move. That's just a lateral move. Pete. It's the same ideology. I don't get it. It's a younger Pete.

That's not, they got to solve their quarterback, and they got to get more functional offensively. That's how I view it. That one I don't get. I mean, I get, all these rumors like Belichick Atlanta, kind of get it. Hardball, Washington, or Chargers. I get it. Dan Quinn, Seattle,

what's the point? Just keep Pete. The defensive coordinator, is like Jim Schwartz got torched, and Rahim Morris, who had a great year with the Rams. They were not ready to play. What I mean? talking about it. You got run. run over in the first half. Like they could not stop to sleep. Well, some of this is just a

reality of quarterbacks are great. You're not stopping them. This is an offensive league. I mean, you've been saying this. You need an offensive head coach. All right. My clock screwed up. How much time do I have here? We got two more minutes. Two and a half more minutes. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I,

there's certain realities. There are certain realities in this league that we have 11 of the 14 playoff teams have offensive coaches. The defensive master minds, Dan Quinn got worked, Jim Schwartz got worked, Rahim Morris had a great year, first half got work. If you got the right quarterback and an offensive coach, it's a huge advantage.

You can win with the defensive coach, Harbaugh, McDermott, and Houston. But the quarterback has to be really special. It doesn't feel like an offensive coach has to have a really special quarterback. Good can win you a lot of games. So I just think the world we live in now, we just, that doesn't mean you can't win. with a defensive coach. But the quarterback's got to be Lamar, Josh, or what appears to be a star in C.J. Stroud.

Yeah. And by the way, if you get forced to go to a backup, you do not want a defensive coach. Oh, no. We saw multiple offensive coaches go to third and fourth quarterbacks and get into the playoffs or vie for it. And again, you don't want to overreact, but Colin, I look at this draft and I see, like,

my mock draft for Fox last week, I had the first seven guys were offensive players. I think you have to look offense first in the draft. draft in free agency. I mean, I'm sorry. Like, I just, you know, my Jets, we're going to look at this. This sauce Gardner, I was the first one to push this out there a while back.

You were. See what you could get. We need real offensive talent with the Jets. Like, that's the only way they're getting back to the playoffs. You just need offense. Well, I mean, I'll say this. If they hit on a left tackle, he won't be great as a rookie. He'll be good, serviceable.

The Jets have issues for any quarterback. But a 40-year-old quarterback, I mean, I watched Jordan Love yesterday. He looked better than Aaron the year before in Green Bay. Way more athletic. So it's like, you've got to be honest if you're a Jets fan. Defensive coach, Nat Hackett, one receiver, cross your fingers, your left tackle rookie can play.

He's not going to be a pro bowler. Pooka was a fifth round pick for the Rams. The Packers hit on all these wide receivers we never heard of. These guys are starting to hit. It's an offensive league now. You've got to go push offense. Yeah. Well, what about Dimeco Ryans?

Well, what if they go get smoke next weekend? I mean, again, things have gone well. Now we're talking NFL football next weekend. See you tomorrow. Well, we'll see you right now. Fred Rugg and Rodney, Pete, an hour sprint today on AM570 LA Sports. Rodney, how are you?

I'm good. I'm just trying to figure out what this past weekend was, for calling. If it wasn't the NFL football, what was it? Because we're going to get into real NFL football next weekend. All right, so last weekend was not NFL football? I guess. I guess this past weekend wasn't. Great games, though.

Well, I'll tell you, one was a great game. One was a great game. I was surprised the others were blowouts the way they were. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. But boy, you know, how about all the people that said, including Colin, let's move off of Jordan Love, you know, early in the season. The kid is a star, and they got their guys.

The reason why they moved off Aaron Rogers like they did because they knew what they had. But man, yeah, tough one on the Rams, though. Well, we got to talk about that. First, you got to give them all the credit in the world. They went and they fought. They fell behind early. He could never make up the difference.

I mean, that's really the ballgame. But just gutsy, incredible performance by Matthew Stafford, his hand gushing blood, got hit in the head, thought he might have had a concussion. He's tough. You cannot deny that. If you don't like him or you don't like his wife, you can't take away the fact he is one tough guy. and he kept him in that game all the way. And Lions got that early and league. Well, we'll talk about it.

We'll talk about it when we got on the air. Lakers and Utah the other night, that wasn't good. That wasn't good at all. I'd been good for a while there, Freddie. Yeah, that was not good. We're going to hit that. And just do it for an hour today. So let's get ready.

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