The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Thoughts on Caleb Williams

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez joins the show in studio to talk about the expectations for number 1 overall pick Caleb WilliamsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sanchez in studio today. We're right in the middle of the summer. Feels like the season. We've just pivoted to the season. Very exciting times. We still got some, you know, we've still got some volleyball tournaments. This is an Olympics coming up? Come on. We got some stuff cooking.

My son and my daughter. They're in Perry. Both arrived. Different flights. They're all fired up. Got to give them credit. Back of the bus. You putting up in a five-star hotel?

No. Nope. Youth hostel. There's no way. Zero chance your kids are staying at hostels in Paris. Blue economy over there. Oh, you're such a liar. I'm not all I'm telling you.

the way it works. Why don't you just put them in steerage? I mean, just be like, hey, I can't afford it. Sorry, guys. I'm not going to disincentivize kids. Oh, yeah. Get out there and lift heavy things. By the way, did you ever take your kid to the gym and you guys just throw some weights around or no? A couple times. That's fun, right?

Not really. No. I like to work out and leave. I get in, get out. I'm not a... But you're such a social butterfly talking to people everywhere? No, don't. Come on. That's not. That's not me. I'm America's honesty broker, not America's social broker. Mark Sanchez, 15 minutes. Well, what a surprise.

The Jets drama continues. Hassan Reddick's refusing to come to camp, and whether it's Aaron Rogers not coming to mini camp or Nat Hackett, needing a babysitter, the Jets continue to be distracted by dysfunction. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard radio app. By the way, J. Mack, I'm just looking over there, there's a little

is it breaking news on the San Francisco 49ers? A little semi- We can call it breaking news. Okay, what is it? You want to save it for a herd line or just do that? No, no, I mean, just give the audience a peek. Brandon Ayuk is reporting the training camp today. So all the threats that Debo made, he got signed, all the threats Ayuk made,

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Well, they, you know, it's the weakest union, and they play the fewest games, and that's the reality. They split revenues. So whenever I hear, you know, anybody crying about, oh, the gambling revenue, they split that. The players do very, very well. They do very well. They also, the punishment on their bodies is worse than any other sport. Again, they have one-tenth of games. shortest career shelf life.

Like LeBron at 39, there's like one play. Well, LeBron, most NBA players at 36 are a shot. I don't know. Curry is all NBA. Durrance all NBA. Brady played to 45. That's it. Well, quarterbacks now play late 30s. Late 30s.

I mean, they get paid late 30s. This idea that the NFL players are hobbling around, this is not guys playing on concrete like in the 70s. Yeah, but we're talking one out of 50 guys. Yeah, but, I mean, again, go to a Super Bowl. the teams will be missing one starter due to injury. I mean, the padded practices in the last CBA have gone from 28 to 16. 16 padded practices before the season. That's it.

And nobody hits in the regular season. And now you're going to get a second buy. You have Thursday games, so you get another longer week off. Like those Thursday games, you don't even practice for those. They build in that prep before the season. So it's this idea that, oh, you know, Yes, it's a very physical sport for 60 snaps on Sunday, wasn't a week. Yeah, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I mean, Andrew Whitworth was 40 when he retired and could have kept playing.

Well, still an elite left tackle. And that's a tackle. There's a lot of that. A lot of these great players in this league are 33 and up have been playing since like eighth grade. I think football's a lot safer today. Kickoff. Now just got eliminated. hitting at practice, like done once the season starts.

Padded practices, cut in half. I mean, guys like McVeigh were very early on this like five years ago, they just cut significant padded days out of practice. It's two a days, done, don't do them. Concussion protocol taken much more seriously. Medical staffs, excellent. Like, this is not 70s, 80s NFL. Trent Williams is 36.

36, all those collisions, still the best left tackle in football. Whitworth played to 40. Kelsey just retired. And was the best center in the league. Could have kept playing. Yeah, what is he? He had 136 years old. Yeah, he retired with over 100 million in net worth and could have still played.

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opening assignment. I don't know if it was last year or two years ago. He had Titans Giants in Week 1 and I told him, I'm like, oh, isn't a great betting spot and nailed it. I think he gets Titans every year, maybe week one. Maybe he gets some Tennessee. That's just a new thing here at Fox. We give him the Titans. Mark Sanchez is the Titans guy. I don't think he wants to hear that. But I'm telling you, you look over week one, you can't tell me two games I'd rather be at than that one. Caleb Williams, home opener, Chicago. Jets 49ers, come on, bro. That's got to be top billing. I think the first half of that will be interesting.

J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, so I was on vacation when you did your rant about how this team for USA Olympics is better than the dream team. And a lot of people were like, you got to get back and talk to cowherd. Well, Colin, you have some backup now. As if I wasn't enough, Serbia's head coach, remember Serbia just faced the 2024 team, said that,

This team is better than the original 1992 Dream Team. And by the way, he was coaching in those Olympics for Germany against the U.S. They got smashed, of course. And Colin, I'm just telling you, there is like a groundswell of people who know basketball and are saying, yeah, this team is way better, way better than the Dream Team for that team. Well, you've got to remember, Bird was shot and Magic was near the end. LeBron at 39 is still absolutely a top five player in the league. And our bench is AD, Tatum potentially.

Bam out of bayous, our bench. The bench is, and also it's just positionless basketball. Outside of AD and maybe bam, everybody here can dribble and shoot a three. That's not what that team was. It was defined role. Barclay was one of the only guys that could score from the perimeter, transition, or low block. Like Charles was 101. That's what basketball is now.

So the other stat that is, I know it's vexing to Dream Team Truthers. In the 92 Olympics, they faced nine NBA players collectively. Collectively. And the whole Olympics. Nine, that's it. Nine. Do you want to guess how many there are in this Olympics? 41.

61. But like seven, almost seven times. Jordan's Dream Team didn't face combined an entire roster of NBA players. This is five rosters. So I got news for you. In terms of depth of skill and dexterity, there's a much better team. It's not even close. It's not even close.

So we played Germany yesterday. Germany in 92 had one NBA player, Detloff Shremf. That's it. Good player. Germany yesterday had four guys who were NBA starters within the last three years. Tice, Schrooter, the Wagner brothers. It's really not close. And I'm with you on this.

We disagree a lot, but I'm with you. Next up, here's the bruce. Brandon Ayuk news. He is reporting to 49ers training camp today despite the trade request. Now, we don't know what's going on with negotiations. Apparently, nothing has been really happening since May, which is not great on that front. 49ers linebacker Fred Warner said that this situation with IUC is actually a good thing for the team. When you're part of such a talented roster, I feel like this is something that goes on every season. And it's a good issue to have because obviously that means that your players are performing

at such a high level that, you know, you have to have these kind of conversations. I mean, he's got to show up. He doesn't want to get fined for not going to camp, you know? Yeah, and I think he's still under contract. It's a winning organization that takes care of its players. He doesn't have to carry the load. He is among four to five really crucial offensive players. It's a system that has benefited him, and he's benefited the system.

system, but it's, you know, he's not like a running back getting 48 carries. They've got Jennings, Debo, McCaffrey, Kittle, Iyuk. They just drafted two receivers. So I don't, you know, scrubbing your social media and pouting in the offseason, it's, I think it behooves him to show up. And I, and I do think if he, you know, I'm in a minority here, but I do think they will, up to the trade deadline, take calls. I feel like every team has certain players, that are the soul of the team. I think Penae Sewell for the Lions, like the offensive line runs that machine.

Penae Seul, Amaran St. Brown, Gough, feel like the machine. I think for the Niners at Shanahan, McCaffrey, Bosa, and like Debo, their physical kiddled, maybe. I don't think he feels quite as culturally relevant, but yet he's a great player. They're going to need him in week one against Sauce Gardner and the Jets. They will need Iyuk in week one. Let's be real.

Got to stretch the field. against Sauce, who is such an elite quarterback. Oh, my gosh. Final story. I'm so excited for that game. Jamar Chase eligible for a contract extension. Doesn't look like he's going to get it done before the season. Bengals President Mike Brown said a new deal is unlikely now that training camp is starting, but that the team will bend over backwards to make sure a deal does get done at some point. So Bengals players are reporting today, and I believe we have photos of Chase and Burrow, both flexing new looks. So Chase has chopped off all his hair. And look, look. Look at January Joe Burrow.

Glass Joe going with the blonde hair. I know you're a big fan. He's looking like Eminem a little bit there. Fluorescent shirt. Very good vibe. By the way, the staff found a photo that is the inspiration for Burrough's new look. Jason McIntyre. How old are you?

You guys did that? I was like 20. Thanks for doing that, man. Thanks a lot. I thought we were friends. That wasn't my idea. It was the staff. They just put it on my screen.

So somebody's getting catch. Somebody's catching heat. Can we take it down before Sanchez's? I don't need my friend seeing this. All right. Thank you, Colin. I didn't do this. It's a damn it.

Well, I mean, you put a, you put a Seahawk logo in your. It's a national TV show. You put it on your Instagram? Stories, not on the main page. So you're upset that you've- You don't even follow me on Instagram. I don't follow anybody on Instagram. I'm not even on my Instagram.

I've never read a comment on my Instagram. I barely go to X. Are you going to call it FaceMash now like Belichick? Snapchat or Snapgram? Snapgram? Yes. Jemak with the news. Well, that's the news.

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but I mean I am totally okay with it all right boy we love having him on you can sense when football season is back when Mark Sanchez joins the show 10 years in the NFL Fox Sports analyst listen I was saying this I was saying this what a good assignment. Like, when did you know? I don't know how it works here. Right. During the course of the week, you do a game, you fly home.

Do you learn in like an hour what your game is? Do you know where you're going? Depending. That's funny. I need to be wise with my words here. We get it slated every week, right? The A crew is going to get the A game. Well, those games get toggled back and forth between networks

and some games get flex, whatever. So usually at the beginning of this year, season, you know your first. Right now we're Titans at Bears, so we know our opening game. And then pretty soon here, we'll probably get the next three. Because those first four weeks of the season, there's no real bad game. Everything's kind of up for grabs. We're still trying to figure everybody out, understand their identity. And then, okay, where do we want to place these games? And then we'll know, hopefully, after the game we're calling at the latest. The latest I've ever gotten it was also like the year after COVID. Things were pretty hectic. I think we

ended up calling a game on Tuesday and didn't know the next game until like that night. So that one, it's rare. It ever happens like that. They do a great job of giving us as much leeway and lead time as possible to study. But it gets a little hectic, especially the last few weeks of the season

when flexing starts. And, you know, it's interesting. What's interesting, you get the Bears hosting the Titans, but what's fascinating about the game is not just Chicago. Will Levis. This is his career now. he gets a new offensive coordinator.

They've made serious upgrades at receiver. So this sort of defensive-led Tennessee team, no, they're not the same thing. So whereas Caleb will be the star, Tennessee's a fascinating team now. So you got to. Yeah, it's a fascinating Tennessee team with a new look identity, right? No, Derek Henry, defense. Are we a defensive identified team? No, not really anymore.

Not with Coach Callahan. That's an offensive guy. So what does that look like? And we'll dive into that, I'm sure. for that opening game, but I know you wanted to talk about Caleb. What is rookies or rookies?

The game's faster. And the other thing, Mark, is you grew up, you entered the NFL where starters played in the preseason. So you got a little game speed. That's not really the way it works anymore. And it's not quite the game speed of a regular season game,

which isn't quite the game speed of a playoff game. So he's going to have just a crash course. I'm trying to figure everything out. The things he has going for him, though, I mean, there's a laundry list of positives going into this season other than just his talent and ability. What they did around him, not just the players they got, but the types of players. A Keenan Allen, you know, similar to when I was with the Jets, I can equate a player like that as a Jericho-Cotry, where he is like, your dependable, third down, thousand yards a year kind of guy. Like, he is just going to be Mr. Reliable for you.

You know what I mean? They have another guy like that in Mercedes-Lewis in the tight-end room helping Cole Komet and Gerald Everett. So there's more targets. Then you add a guy like D'Andre Swift, who's used to playing running back by committee. I mean, this thing's starting to look good. You got right at right tackle. You're figuring out the center position.

But you have some real pieces on offense. And with a coordinator like Shane Waldron, right, he took Gino Smith up to his completion percentage. I mean, just knocked it out of the park with Gino his first year as a starter. Well, he's going to have something like that in Caleb, and part of it is, when do you let him be Superman and go to the telephone booth, right? We've had that discussion here before with Caleb in the off season, talking about his ability, and when is it time to just play ball? I think adding all of those targets around him, and don't forget, I left out DJ Moore. That wasn't on purpose. Yeah, and they drafted Rome.

So you're expecting that to be an explosive player. You have another one in Keenan Allen, who's going to have fresh legs because DJ Moore and maybe Rome, kind of start most of the, maybe he gets a little less snaps than them, but he comes in in crucial situations. So DJ Moore was like 40% of their offense last year. So, and that was with Tyson Bejant and Justin Fields. So this is set up for immediate success. They don't play a division, the thing working against them is that their division is so strong. Well, they don't play a division game till week 11. You've made that point. Green Bay. So, I mean, what if they just started out seven and too. You know what I feel like? It's not an off-the-wall prediction. Plus, you can't forget. I mean,

I think Iberflus saved his job last year by the way that defense performed down the stretch. Yes. Adding Montes-Swatt, shirt up their defensive line. They have two studs and Edmonds and Edwards at linebacker. And then in the back end, they have three capable cornerbacks. You got guys who played 800 plus snaps together. You know what I mean? This kind of thing is really going to start to take form and take shape. Jalen Johnson's stud player. So it's like, man, there's a lot. It feels more like the Jets year two for me,

2010, with, you know, you bring in Ladania and Thomason, you have Sean Green, Jericho Cotry, Braylon Edwards, San Antonio Holmes, Dustin, Kelleardt, tight end. Like, there's guys everywhere you look. They might not be top five at their position, but they're at least top half of the league. And then the defense, two stud linebackers, they don't have, obviously,

Dorel Revis, but great defensive backs and a system that they all know. back to the Shane Waldron point and we'll wrap it up. But when do you let him be Superman and when do you keep them within the confines of the offense? Because that's going to be, you know, feeling that part of the game. I think he's going to have that part of his call sheet that has the quick completions, quick answers, quick game, the stuff he knocked out of the park with Gino, that's going to be long. Because if at any point, Caleb misses three in a row, hey, let's get him two completions in a row.

Let's get our quarterback back and get him distributing the football the way we know how we can. and let's do it easy. Let's give them an easy completion. So I think they're primed and poised to have an amazing year. I'm happy to kick off the season with them. Oh, I think, I mean, there's very few games at opening week. I'm more fascinated to watch. That's way at the top of my list.

Listen, it's been, you know, Resettic, Hassan Reddick's not showing up. Mini-Camp stuff, Aaron, the Nat Hackett story with Arthur Smith. Listen, it's the Jets. It's noisy. Some of it's the city. Although I will argue, the Eli Manning Tom Coughlin teams when they were winning were actually kind of boring and didn't make a lot of news. This team's noisy. What do you kind of make of the noise?

Yeah. Well, I think my argument to that is the offseason in New York is always going to be noisy. I think what helps them this year is there's no hard knocks. They don't have to worry about that. The Giants kind of wore that hard knocks deal for them this year, if you will. And they can just kind of focus on ball because that. The Aaron Rogers injury would have been massive last year if they weren't on hard knocks. But because it was on hard knocks, it even was bigger, right?

So I think up front, and I know we have a great graphic for this, but the changes at offensive line, three new starters, same offensive line coach. But you see Tyron Smith, John Simpson, Joe Tipman, Elijah Verrett Tucker, coming back from injuries and Morgan Moses. They get two of those guys, John Simpson, the left guard and the right tackle Morgan Moses, excuse me, from the Ravens. So they have some veteran talent. They got some guys that they trust.

Joe Tipman, Solid Center, going into a second year, Wisconsin guy. I think that offensive line should be more or less, you know, better than serviceable. Like, better than top half of the league, you would think. They also drafted a rookie. That Fashana kid. So he's, I mean, I feel like it's the MasterCard commercial, right? Like, priceless. He gets to be around Tyrant Smith and Morgan Moses as a rookie and be your swing tackle.

That's priceless. I mean, you're developing the guy right away. Those two guys are 30 plus in age, right? 30 plus years old. The chances those guys play every single snap. Now, I hope they don't get hurt. I hope their shoe lace falls out or something, and this kid's got to play.

But now you have six legit offensive linemen. That's great for Aaron Rogers. That's what you want. You add some guys in free agency with Mike Williams. I love some of their draft picks with the young receiver Malachi out of Western Kentucky. I think he's a yak guy, yards after catch kind of guy. he's going to have to fill that Randall Cobb kind of void and be the slot.

Wiggle-free on third down because we're going to double Garrett Wilson. We're going to double Mike Williams. All right, young kid, we need you to eat. But suffice to say with this whole thing philosophically from the top with Coach Hackett, their offensive line coach, Keith Carter, and the quarterback, what are we doing on quick game? Aaron Rogers went down on a quick game play, meaning three-step timing for the offense, and you can roll the clip,

because Leonard Floyd ends up hurting him on this play, first game of the year, fourth play, whatever it was, well, it looks like they're trying to cut on Quick Game. So if the left tackle is cutting like that, the quarterback needs to know I cannot hold onto the ball. So this is where there's blame to go around. When you say the ultimate team sport, one, are we not cutting on Quick Game?

Because this ended up being the worst possible result of guys not getting either a philosophy understood, or executing at the right level. Receivers got to get open, balls got to come out, and either we are cutting or we are not cutting on quick game. So that moving forward

would have been my first meeting, my first question to everybody. You know what I mean? If I'm the Jets beat rider, like that's my first question. What's our deal here? What are we doing this year? Now, he's probably not going to divulge that

to a beat rider, but that changed the course of their whole season last year. Yeah. So where are we going with that stuff? And I think they're going to get a lot more time to do that and a lot more privacy to do that.

Should they allow themselves the privacy and things don't come spewing out of the building, which tends to happen at times. It's New York. It's really hard. So what does that look like? And they don't have to explain it every week on higher knocks or feel like they have to or anything like that. So I think all these things work in their favor,

but it starts philosophically, hack it, offensive line coach, Aaron Rogers, and then boom, go for it. Because it's not a 10-year plan with Aaron Rogers. They've got to win. What are we going to get from Jordan Love? Thoughts on the Cowboys next with Mark, Sanchez live in L.A. It's the hurt. Hey, we're Kavino and Rich.

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Listen, Green Bay knows quarterbacks. I'd pay Jordan love to. Mark Sanchez joining us for our radio audience. Would you be a little concerned that he was, was erratic early and we have a very small sample size.

Does that concern you getting the big contract where he won't return to even practice? And I think that's part of it, right? That kind of contract hamstrings you with the rest of your roster. Look at where the Cowboys are and we'll get to Cowboys later. But we've seen a little bit of both, right? The Jekyll and Hyde and man, was he good at the end of the year. 21 touchdowns, three interceptions in the last nine games, didn't take any sacks in the playoffs, did a great job of throwing the ball away,

went in and hung up almost half a hundred on the Cowboys, beat him 4832, and that was a Dan Quinn, good Dallas Cowboys defense that were expected to advance to the next round. So, massive upset, he did it all on the road. That's a pretty

big deal. So if you're arguing for the contract, you have some ammo. If you're arguing against the contract, part of it is listen to make sure your success is sustainable, you might want to take a little haircut and maybe take a page out of the Tom Brady book of making sure there's enough money to go around because at some point the roster might look a little thin if we don't make this, you know, mutually beneficial

for both sides. Right now, they're so young offensively. If I'm Jordan Love and his agent, can I say, listen, pay us in the first two years, we'll go team friendly the last two. At the very end? Yeah, because then we're going to pay our receivers. I wouldn't be shocked if that's kind of the direction they had because a lot of these guys, They're the young team in Little League that grows up together for like seven, eight years,

and that whole Little League travel team goes to the same high school, and you're just like, dang it. These guys know everything about each other. They've been playing together forever. The experience that they got last year is, once again, priceless, invaluable, because they got to play in two extra games that nobody had them pegged for at a very young age with a bunch of guys on early contracts. I mean, look at even the tight end room. It's a young, young group with Kraft and Musgrave, and those guys really performed.

And, you know, these guys are coming up together. They could be nasty. And in the playoffs, they were tougher, grittier, and feistyer than the Cowboys. They just out-executed them. And, you know, it was almost that ignorance is bliss mentality. Let's just go roll out there and play our best ball. I think my interpretation is love is a little more far than Aaron, not quite as precise, but willing to let her rip.

Oh, he can cut a loose. And my take is, Mark, He's not Aaron. Aaron tend to be a very precise quarterback. I think you have to live with Love. I think Love's got a little Josh Allen where he's going to make some throws that you win. But I'm okay with that because I trust Green Bay's operation. And get that number.

If he's going to make a couple of those throws, take it from five or six like he was early in the season to like two or three where you're like kind of hold your breath. You know, the more you can just eliminate those for his game. and then we got to watch how it plays out at running back. Aaron Jones goes in the division to the Vikings, and now you bring in Josh Jacobs, who isn't quite the receiving threat, maybe as Aaron Jones, but more of the downhill, you know, every down back kind of thing.

So you see what they want to do there. But so much youth and experience, and those two things don't really go together, right? And Jordan loves in a good spot. I think they just got to figure out the contract. I bet you we're talking like a week or so tops, because he's there. how valuable are these practices if you don't have the quarterback?

Right? Like you're trying to get all your guys go on and keep that momentum from the last year. You need those guys together again. You can't lose your most important guy right now. In my opinion, this sets a tone for your season. So paying the quarterback is it's a delicate balance that you want to pay it, but if he's got an injury history or there's limitations. So the Cowboys are going to pay Mike and CD.

They drafted them. They hit on them. They're elite. you got to pay him. That's why you draft guys early. You hit on them, you pay them. Dax's more precarious. He at times has been carried, the more

the team is DAC reliant, they have struggled against good teams. This is a dance to me with those three stars. They couldn't spend any money in free agency. They're very top heavy. Where do you go with that? Are you worried about the distractions of contracts

with Dallas? Oh, well, 100 percent. And it's once again a noise factor. How much are we listening to all this? And, you know, how much does that infiltrate our locker room and affect what's going on coaching-wise? I mean, everybody coaching-wise is on a one-year deal. So it creates kind of two mechanisms, right? Like you can have a high-risk, high-reward scenario. If things work out, all those coaches are going to get retained and paid, and a high-tide raises all ships. So great. Well, if things don't work out, there's going to be a ton of turnover. And then now there's questions about the quarterback.

What do we do? Even if he leaves next year, he's got a $40 million cap hit for the Cowboys. So, I mean, that's like, I don't know, told there'd be no math, but around 14% of your cap, and it's going to go up again next year. Like, they got real questions, but let's just start with this season. Let's

not get too far ahead of ourselves. I mean, the lack of the offseason activity, the poor momentum after the playoff loss, where's your depth? Where's your experience? Like, what are we doing? Potentially two rookies starting on offensive line. That's going to be different for DAC.

And then what are we doing in the running back position? I know Zeke's back, but he's a year nine. No Tony Pollard. So who's the catching thread out of there? Dowdl, Vaughn. Yeah, so it's C.D. Lamb or Lion. That's what I'm saying.

And so think about the difference between maybe Dak and the Cowboys his rookie year and the talent he had around him. The other explosive players, think about a couple years ago when Cooper Rush went in and went four and one as a starter. Well, he did that with Gallup, C.D., Schultz, Zeke, and Pollard.

I mean, that's some talent now. So flip-flop the quarterbacks, even if you're not a DAC fan, let's say, you know what I mean? Like, even if you don't like that, okay, well, then who would win on this team? Who's going to help this team elevate suddenly, and where are the weapons?

Who am I thrown to? Who's keeping the defensive coordinators up at night? Like, dang, what are we going to do? about this guy. And that's, you know, those are tough questions to ask going into a season. You want to have those things shirt up. So I think the lack of depth is going to be tough. And this is going to be a lot on Dax plate. You know, he's always going to be poised to handle anything. But this one's, you know, this one's tough. Mark Sanchez joining us Fox Sports. He opens up Titans and Bears.

The, you know, it's, I do think it's become a very quarterback coach-centric league. and I think we know by and large there's about 10 great everything in the league like offensive tackles, quarterback coaches. Earlier today I said, if you told me, regardless of what their current situation is, that we paid quarterbacks in a perfect world in order, everybody would be paid what their worth. And I put up three tiers. I said, Mahomes and Allen feel different to me. That literally Josh Allen had 10 more touchdowns than every.

everybody else in the league, and that Mahomes has been to five or six Super Bowls. Then the second is remarkable players. There may be a Lamar playoff issue, a Stafford age, a Burrow Health, a Gough Immobile issue. I think those are great quarterbacks. Then there's three to me that are rising stars. Again, I just need more. I need more hours.

Herbert's got to get the right coach. And that I said, Jalen Hertz is my 11, DAC 12. But if I had to as a GM, pay 10 quarterbacks in order. of what I believe, health-winning production, elevate others, not be elevated. Is there somebody missing there? I might shuffle some guys around, but remember, I have to call all 10 of those guys' games, so we're not going to get into a ranking system. I didn't know what to do.

Because that makes production meetings very difficult. I didn't know what to do with Jalen Hurts. One great year. But I think some of that is like recency bias, right? If those years were flipped, he'd probably be on the, this board. You know what I think you're right. I didn't know what to do. And then what do you do when guys get hurt like Kirk Cousins who is playing out of his mind maybe MVP worthy and then gets hurt. So like he's not in because he's older and coming back from injury. I didn't put where's Aaron Rogers?

Where's you know what I mean? If you got hurt last year you can't make this list. Like what are the it's hard because your your scope of it totally valid. My scope of it totally valid. But we might factor or or weight some of these factors a little bit higher. Let me throw one out to you. We got a minute and a half left. 40 off an Achilles. I've got to survive for a minute and a half talking QB. 40 off an Achilles surgery with a new O line and a Hackett issue a little bit.

What are reasonable numbers for Aaron? You know his new pieces now. What should it look like? I mean, I think he's easily 4,000 yards around there. I think he's easily right around 30 touchdowns, less than 10 picks. I mean, when has he thrown more than 10? 9 picks. Yeah, like that would be more than enough. And I think he

can easily surpass that in a year where they catch fire. You know, like, that's a team that can win the division. You know what I mean? And we had two really good teams, never won our division. The division went through Foxborough, Brady and Belichick. And we were 9 and 2 at one point, playing them on Monday night, and

just got absolutely blown out of the water. So, you know, I don't know. This team is going to be good. Their defense is solid. I think they got less noise with the hard knock stuff. I think the Jets could potentially run the division. Well, okay, what does that look like? Then Rogers' numbers are going to be way more than what I just explained at 4,030 and 10 or less, right?

So I think that's easily attainable for him. Wow. I said my take was by mid-October, if the Penn State rookie, you're like, wow. If the O line is healthy and there's chemistry, because I don't know, suspect those veterans will play a lot in preseason. And I think they'll figure each other. As you know, O-line's the toughest cohesion to create. Yeah, no doubt.

Right. Quarterback receiver and O-line. That is timing and cohesion. If it looked, mid-October, we're like, Aaron's got time to throw. Yeah. I know. Breeze Hall's going healthy.

Come on. And I know they're a good team. Their defense is solid. I mean, they can win it. All right. You got the bills. I might pick the jets. All right.

Sanchez. It's so good to see you. It's great to be back. Mark Sanchez arrives. So does football. I can smell cut grass. I can smell cut grass right now. I love it.

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