The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 3 - Tom Brady

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Tom Brady stops by to discuss his transition to the broadcasting booth. Does he have nerves, how will he handle mistakes, what's his mindset? Colin and Tom also discuss wide receivers and offensive li...nes and how the best teams and quarterbacks handle the supporting cast that makes the magic happen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, the man needs no introduction. He is now at Fox. You're going to see a lot of him. His process has changed. Tom Brady, seven-time Super Bowl champ, five-time MVP. It's great to finally see you in person.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Same here. I know I ended up on one of your documentaries saying stuff that I regret now. Now that we're teammates. No, we are teammates. I apologize for everything, Tom. Let me start with this. You're a process guy.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And my wife and I talk about this. She's a project woman. I'm a process guy. She likes big projects. And I think to myself, you were the ultimate process guy. Like Sabin, Belichick, you, like your process people. And then the process goes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Did you wake up a week after and think, maybe I should play golf? Like, was losing the process, has it been a challenge? I think anytime you transition into something new, there's a bit of a challenge because you're so programmed and wired to do things a certain. way. As an athlete, there's so much physical prep that goes along with your life, even in the offseason. I was always thinking about, was I prepared? If there was a game on Sunday, could I play? And I would think about that in April and May and June and July. And I would watch other great athletes, Floyd Mayweather comes to mind. Like, he always seemed ready to go. Someone
Starting point is 00:04:20 called him, say, hey, you got a fight on Saturday. He'd be like, cool. And I think that's how I always physically train my body. Mentally, it was a little bit different because there was old game plan element to the process of preparing for the games. So I think the biggest challenge for me is I just the structure is is very different now in my life because you don't have the routine. But I actually believe that the broadcasting at Fox this year for the first time will give me a lot more structure like I'm used to and I really actually will look forward to that. So you were in the booth this weekend, uh, uh, uh, UFL championship. So it's kind of your first taste of doing it. You've also been probably a half dozen times that I'm aware of been practicing upstairs.
Starting point is 00:05:00 So I want you to take me from the first time you put on a headset upstairs until the UFL game and your last, you may have practiced today. When you watch the tapes, do you notice a difference with you? Yeah, I would say yes, and I also think there's still so much more room for improvement. And I just, it's almost like when I was a player. I never felt like I did things the right way. There were games where I'd go in afterward and think, God, I'm the worst quarterback in the NFL. Like, why would they even want me to play quarterback for this team?
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I'm sure I'm going to feel that way here at Fox where I finish a game and I go, God, I didn't even give them what they wanted. And it's a very challenging thing in your own mind. I've asked a few people, like, how do you know that you did a good job? And I think for me, so much of this is going to come down to the preparation. And did I feel like I was prepared? Did I feel like our crew was prepared? Did I give them the best over the course of the week so that we could give ourselves the best opportunity to be successful for the fans? Because really, the game is to show.
Starting point is 00:05:57 we're there to add our take on it in our analysis. But it's also, did we feel like we added to the broadcast? And from my standpoint, I'm going to work as hard as I can in the process of it as you talked about earlier to make sure that I do deliver because I don't want to let anyone down. I don't want to let the people at Foxer down. I certainly don't want to watch, let the great NFL fans down either. Well, both quarterback and broadcaster takes the ability to compartmentalize and then quickly pull things and put them in a game or a,
Starting point is 00:06:27 So it's very similar, is that when you went into a football game, there were things that you practiced waited to see. That may not happen until the fourth quarter. And then you have to take that film study, fourth quarter, loud crowd, can't hear, and implement it. That's what broadcasting is. I've said this before, Tom. I think what you're doing is the hardest thing in sports.
Starting point is 00:06:46 200 times for eight seconds, be smart. Yeah. And if you have one, if you, I kick it all the time. Yeah. People are just used to it. You're not a guy. I think you do pretty good. I've done fine.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Are there nerves for Tom Brady? You haven't had nerves forever, right? No, I always had nerves because it's a performance when you'd go out there on the field and you would feel like you put a lot into it. There was probably anxiousness and there were nerves because the outcomes weren't guaranteed for any of us. You'd go into a game, you'd feel like, oh, we got a great advantage this week. They got a few of their guys out. We're playing at home.
Starting point is 00:07:18 This is exactly the game we want. Next thing you know, it's middle of the third quarter and it's a dog fight. So you never really know how sports are going to go, which was why we all tune in. We tune in because the outcomes are very unexpected, which if they're unexpected, there's a chance of winning and losing. And because of that, there's anxiety and there's nerves going into every single one of those games. So the only way that I knew how to combat the nerves and the anxiousness of the game was to prepare. So I was someone that got really good at my preparation over the course of my career. I got really efficient with my time, especially as you added a lot of the things to your life, like children.
Starting point is 00:07:52 You know, that's a big addition. So it's how can I prepare knowing that I have other things going on my life? And I really want to be efficient with my time to make sure the time I am spending preparing is really worth it. I'm working on the things that are actually going to add to the broadcast, rather than I'm just working on things to work on them that will actually never come up. Right. I'll throw a theory at you. And I've used you as an example on this show on Matt Stafford.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Offensive lines matter. I believe offensive line play has deteriorated due to the CBA. They practice less. I think it's the most cohesive unit and they're practicing less. Outside of the Lions, I'm not sure there's a great O-line in the league right now. There feels to me very powerful. What worries me, I saw this with Russell first year in Denver. I saw it with Aaron first year with the Jets.
Starting point is 00:08:40 The reason I think you succeeded and Stafford did and Kirk Cousins will because older quarterbacks are a bit more reliant on guard center guard protection. It's very important. In Tampa, you got Tristan Worf. you were very good guard center guard. And you got very comfortable quickly. That's what I worry about the Jets
Starting point is 00:09:01 is that two things are converging, Tom. One, they've got all new offensive linemen, and two, many are older and older offensive linemen don't play in the preseason anymore. I don't worry about Aaron. But take me through that. You went through it with Tampa where you had to move it.
Starting point is 00:09:18 When you wanted Gronk, it may have been for blocking as much as catching. Sure. Yeah, there's so many nuances to the success. of an offense. I don't think you can ever make a bad O-line good. And over the course of my career, I always, I believe I played with the best offensive line coach in the history of the NFL in Dante Scarnacia. And regardless of who we drafted, free agents, we got free agents in the draft, free agents and NFL free agency, veteran free agency, we always pieced together a unit that
Starting point is 00:09:49 played really well together. And all of them may not have been pro bowlers, But as a unit, they played as well as any team in the league. And that was a tough challenge for every D-line you would play. You'd go, okay, I know they're going to block us well. I know Brady's, the ball is going to come out quick. I know they're going to have good plans when we play man coverage. They're going to have man-beaters. I know when we get in the red area, they're going to challenge us.
Starting point is 00:10:10 They're going to have some different schemes in there in the run game that we're going to prepare for. We put a lot of pressure on the defense all the time to do things the right way. As opposed to the five, the offensive linemen, having to draft first-round, pick, first-round pick, first-round pick to put together a great O-line. So so much of great O-line play, it's a great O-line coach. And I think we could talk about there's not a lot of great O-line coaches anymore in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Jimmy Johnson has said for years, there's about six good ones on the planet at any one time. Absolutely. And there's probably about six to eight good quarterbacks on the planet. And there's probably about six to eight good head coaches. And there's about six-eight good defensive coordinators. So to try to get all the things right, which is why the NFL is so competitive
Starting point is 00:10:50 in my mind. Because there's so many challenges to keeping people together. Because when you have a good old line and everyone says, oh, this is the first ranked or second rank or third ranked offensive line. Well, in free agency, all the teams come in, they pick those guys out of that team and say, all right, well, we were going to bring you from the Patriots to the Bengals. We're going to be from the Patriots to the Chargers because they knew that our guys were developed really well also. So we would lose a lot of offensive line, and you'd have to replace them and you'd have to develop them. I think one of the pet peeves I have, one of the great things I would say in my experience
Starting point is 00:11:20 with the Patriots was every player was coached, even if you were on the practice squad, even if the scout team offense was out there. Dante Scarnacki was coaching the scout team offensive line as if it was the starting offensive line. And I think a lot of coaches, hey, I'll just coach the starter, maybe a few backups, as opposed to I'm going to coach every single position. So when people go down, we're going to fill those guys in and they're going to, they're going to just step in and play a great role for us because they're going to know all the calls.
Starting point is 00:11:45 They're going to know the timing. They're going to know the precision. They're going to know exactly what we, want to do on every play. So that was the development part. And I think, yeah, the CBA changed a lot. There's less practice time. I don't necessarily love that. There's a lot of areas of, say, the techniques and fundamentals, which because you don't have the time, tackling, run after catch, you know, special teams has basically been eliminated from the NFL with a lot of the rules. So that saves some time, but, you know, you lose the kicking game, parts of the kicking game. So I think there's a lot
Starting point is 00:12:14 of because we don't have as much time on task, there's a lot of less time for us to develop the techniques and fundamentals that these players need to be successful. So they go to the outside and they look for coaches in the offseason to develop some of those things. Some of it works. It may work as an individual, but at the same time, football is a team sport. So I would see quarterbacks throwing the receivers that weren't their receivers. Well, that's fine. It might be good for you, but it's not good for, let's say, the team. That's right. You know, before I get into some other stuff, I'm going to be a little bit of a fan on my last question. but I want to ask you this. I have another theory.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. Is that this is subconscious, and you were able, in a better spot to handle this. But I have been arguing for years that number one receivers, there's a duality to it. They're great. Rani Moss is great. Yeah. But subconsciously, even a great quarterback will feel to some degree he's indebted to get him the ball. Always.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And I thought when Dak Prescott broke into the league, he was better without the great Des Bryant. Right. The pressure left. sometimes receivers are verbal. And I'd Stefan Diggs would take on any team. But he's verbal. Brandon Iyuk is verbal on his social. And I want you to go to that as I have argued,
Starting point is 00:13:25 now Justin Jefferson to me is too good not to sign. Sure. But I have always had this feeling. And if you could, subconsciously when Randy was there, he rewarded you. But was there a feeling sometimes? Where's Randy? Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I want to make sure Randy's happy. Sure. Yet you always felt, like you had to do something to get them the ball. And if they hadn't touched the ball in practice, I'd make sure, oh, God, you know, hey, I got to get so-and-so ball because I want him to keep running hard. And I want him to be ready for when the ball does come. And, you know, you see it a lot in NFL games, been practicing a lot of these games.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I want to see the best players touch the ball early so they can break a sweat. They can get into the flow at the game. And good coaches do that. When you script plays at the beginning of the game, you're saying, okay, you're the Niners coach. I'm going to make sure McCaffrey touches it, either first or second in the game. I want to make sure Debo Samuel touches it first or second in the game. I'm going to throw it to him quick.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Somehow I know the ball is going to be in his hands so he can do something with it. I want to get him into the flow. So we would always try to script so that everybody would feel like they were in the flow of the game. The last thing you want is your number one receiver to go two and a half quarters into a game and not see a ball to get one target. Because he's going to get discouraged. He's got to go out there. He's got to break the huddle. He's got to run out 25 yards to his alignment.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's got to run down the field as fast as he can. try to get open. He's got to run back to the huddle. It's a lot of effort that he's putting into not getting the ball. Now, when you can reward that guy early in the game and figure, okay, where is he at? How do I get him the ball? And there's certain guys that are really easy to get the ball too. Certainly the guys that line up closer to the ball, the tight ends and the slot receivers, there's way more route options for them. It's way easier to get them the ball because they can go to basically every part of the field. Whereas that perimeter receiver, he's got the sideline to deal with. He really can't break out. If he breaks out, he's got five or six yards to deal with.
Starting point is 00:15:10 receiver at the tight end position or in the slot when he breaks out he's got 18 yards to deal with so you have much more space to get him actually the ball so you know it wasn't hard to get welker the ball it wasn't hard to get edelman the ball wasn't hard to get gronkowski the ball it was hard to get a perimeter receiver the ball if they decide that they want to take a perimeter receiver out of the game roll out cover you just roll the coverage to them you play cover two you jam them at the line of scrimmage with someone over the top and it's very very difficult to get that guy the ball but that also gives up a lot of the things and you've got to be able to take advantage of those things and that number one receiver has to understand,
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Starting point is 00:20:38 Sean McVeigh, years ago, did something that it was kind of a maverick move, kind of a balder move. He said, I'm not going to play my veteran stars one snap in preseason. And people are like, whoa, whoa. Yeah. You're not going to be ready. They went eight and no to start the season. And now people look at it and go, yeah, I don't want anybody hurt. Now, there is a line here because you're going to want a couple series of snaps.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Like, I get it. You don't want to go cold. Yeah. But it is interesting that I believe, and you have touched on this, that the NFL is the shield and corporate. And a lot of these coaches, there's a dogma and a rigidity, and they just don't want to change stuff, and it's hard to flip the telescope.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And I think coaches struggle allowing quarterbacks like you and Breeze, it's your offense. Go to the line and call what you see. Yeah. I think quarterbacks can be overcoached at the line of scrimmage, not at practice. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:38 You have touched on the fact that you don't think quarterbacks are developing that sort of pre-sent snap. Is some of it the rigidity of coaching? Yeah. Okay, so it is. Yeah, and the ability to develop that player to give him the tools so that when he gets to the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 00:21:53 and he sees blitz. Okay, if they're blitzing me, these are the two protections I can use when they blitz. these are the two or three routes that I can signal to my receivers that can beat the blitz. Or vice versa. We're anticipating blitz, so we call a play that's going to protect. And nope, they're actually playing a very safe zone.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I want to make sure I can get all my players out into the route. And I can change the call, the protection and the routes that everybody can get into the defense. So what are you trying to do? You're trying to give the quarterback to really be a field general. quarterback you got the last swipe at the pencil you know the defense can call their play they're going to line up offense calls a play in the huddle they walk the line of scrimmage defense calls a play they adjust to the formation offense is lined up in they have their call set it was always my job to say well i know what my play is now i look at the defense okay i think i know what they're in does what i have call is it
Starting point is 00:22:51 going to work and that was my judgment and they would have to live and die with my judgment the entire team. Now, I developed the trust within the team, my teammates in the organization to say, Tom, we want you to have that. We trust you to have that final swipe at that pencil. But we're not going to snap the ball into, let's say there's a safety blitzing off the right side. And I got to run right at the right side. And I know that nobody can block him. I'm not going to snap the ball and run it into the strong safety blitzing and tackle our running back four yards in the back field. I'd say, okay, if the strong safety is coming on the right and we got to play to the right, what do you want me to do? You want me to run to the left? You want me to check to a pass,
Starting point is 00:23:24 those are the options. That's how I would think about the game. There was always a reason why I did something. If he was blitzing off the left and I wanted to run the right, great. Let's snap the ball as fast as I can. Everything was intentional. Yeah, there wasn't a time. I would hope that I would have never snapped the ball into a bad defense. Now, did I? Of course I did. Because sometimes the defenses wanted to disguise a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:23:45 They didn't want to show me, okay, Brady likes to get a great pre-snap read. Let's really mess with them. Let's kind of toggle the safeties back and forth. and we're going to make it challenging for him to really decipher. Buffalo, when I played Buffalo, they wouldn't move until after the ball was snapped. So with the safety was coming down on the left, we're on the right, they were going to do it after the snap all the time. And they would just play in this little shell defense, ball be snapped, and here they go, they'd rotate. Because every defense has strengths and weaknesses to it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 My job as a quarterback was always to delineate where the strengths and weaknesses were. And was the play that I had called, was it able to take advantage of the weaknesses of the defense? And if it couldn't, then I was supposed to get to a play that would. And I think that's part of the development that I had as a player was they gave me the tools to be able to do that. And they gave me the trust over a period of time that I was ultimately going to make the right decision for the team. Intentional is sometimes confused for intensity. Knowing and reading the temperature in the room is important. And there's a story about John Wooden, the late legendary coach.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And he was very strict, you know, the pyramid of success. And he felt his team before a championship game was tight. And so he made the decision. He said, all we're doing is dunking at practice today. And everybody was having fun, and he sensed the temperature in the room. My team is tight. We've got to have a fun practice. You had what I would view as a highly efficient, don't mess around head coach.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah. Were there times... That's a polite way to say that. Yes. I'm trying to be very difficult. Good job. I would think you would have to provide the question I'm going to ask. Were there times because of Bill's manner that you felt on a Saturday night when you go into that meeting were way too tight?
Starting point is 00:25:33 I got to lighten this room up a little. I think the answer would be no. And I think that's where Bill was actually so great. And no one saw them in those moments like we did. And Saturday night, we were so prepared and so focused. We were the opposite of tight. Really? We were always relaxed because we had the answers to the test.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I knew that I went through the call sheet. Let's say we had 150 calls on the call sheet. There was a meeting at a squad meeting at 8 o'clock. I would meet with the quarterback starting at 6.30 in the offense corner. We'd go through every single play on the call sheet, and we'd do exactly what we did. Okay, this is the play, this is the run. What's the one thing that can mess this run up? Oh, a safety blitz off the right side.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Okay, great. What do you want to do if that happens? So I'd walk to the line of scrimmage. That call was made. I'd break the huddle, I'd look to the line of scrimmings. I'd say, okay, the only problem I have on this play is if the safety's blitzing off the right side. And then I would just look for it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh, and he only did it, let's say, 5% of the time. So most coaches would just say, I'd just run the play, whatever. If they get lucky and call it the same time, one for them. And that's not how I play, because that one play could mean everything. So I would say, no, no, no, no. If it's a 5% chance, it could happen,
Starting point is 00:26:39 what should I do if it happens? So we're all on the same page. So I would tell the line, okay, if this guy's bludders is what I'm doing. I'm going to check to this play, called Wolf, or called Beetle, or called Python, whatever we wanted to call it. This is what I'm going to do. Or I'm going to check to a screen, Liz, Rip.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm going to change the protection and go to Greta or Grape. So there was all these different code words what we had that we can get to them so quickly because it's hard to do when there's 70,000 fans. Right. You know, it's hard to do it. Communicate to everybody in 10 seconds to go from one play to another play. But that's what the continuity allowed us to do over a long period of time. That's what the same coordinator, the similar core group of players could do,
Starting point is 00:27:14 the same offensive line coach. Oh, yeah, we did that two years ago. Yeah, I like that solution. That worked great. That allowed us to win the game. Great, we gain confidence in it. So that continuity that we had with all of us allowed us to succeed in those little small percentage chances that they did something or made a call that could beat what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And I think so much that's what the beautiful part about the sport is. That's the chess game in football. It's not checkers. It's not soccer where everything's reaction. It's not hockey. It's not basketball. They're all set pieces. They're all there's a play.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And when I looked at the real field generals when I played growing up with, well, that was John Elway, Dan Marino. Then you got to the Peyton Mannings and Drew Brees and Philip Rivers. Like that's all we tried to do. We tried to say, what's the defense doing and how can we beat the defense on every single play? And then we'd come out of the game. That's how we would judge ourselves. Did I make the right call there?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Not always did I make the right throw. Did I snap the ball into a defense that that play would actually work? This will really dorky. but I always thought you had a, you were the best cold weather thrower because of your torque I'd ever seen. Yeah. Didn't mean you had the best arm.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You're the best cold weather thrower. And you made it throw. This is so darky. Chicago Bears, Soldier Field. Yeah. Down the left sideline. The Dion Branch.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And I was like, does everybody understand what it's like to throw in Chicago? Yeah. It was terrible. Yeah. We actually called a draw play on there. And I was like, I'm not throwing a draw here. There was only like 11 seconds left in the half.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And I was like, no, no, these guys can't move out there. And there was a play called Toga. Two goes. One was up the sideline. The safety major right couldn't move off the hash. I kind of looked them inside. I had time because they were pretty tired on defense and just fired it up the sideline to Deon. We scored a touchdown right before halftime. Windy, cold, snow. It was horrible, but it was perfect. That's the throw of your life. I always think people just don't get the disadvantage. A lot of quarterbacks. Foxborough was not a great quarterback setting, October 20th on.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And I give that credit again to the coaches. We practiced. in the bad weather every single day. And so it was, we just got so used to it. I just expected 10 to 15 mile an hour wins every time I took the field. I went to domes and I was like, it's like this all the time. And when you look at like dome stats
Starting point is 00:29:26 and dome quarterbacks, different. There's probably a three or four, three to five completion percentage advantage for the dome quarterback. No question. The yards per attempt is gonna go up. It's just cleaner football.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's like shooting a basketball in the wind for shooting basketball, you know, at one of the great arenas here in America. but we're an outdoor sport. So we were going to play in Buffalo. We were going to play in New England. We were going to play in the Meadowlands. Those are three outdoor stadiums in the Northeast.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Then you had the other teams you knew you play. So Bill would just make sure we got out there and played in any condition. I knew exactly what I had to wear in every single climate that we were going to play. I knew I didn't have too much on. I didn't have not enough on. I was always had the right amount of hand warmers in my. muff just because if it was really cold I didn't want to have six handworms and I wanted to have one or two if unless it was really cold then I want to have four or five
Starting point is 00:30:18 so I just knew every degree of temperature what I needed to wear from my sleeves how how early I needed to get out and prepare again that continuity allow me to do a lot of different things it's it's like institutional knowledge yeah you could literally pull stuff Edelman's told me that he's like it's amazing when you have the same coaches and the same sort of it is it's it's like almost military sure when you have the same corporate leaders? And I like to think of it if it's a football field. Every team's starting at their own one yard line.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And a lot of times the Patriots, we felt like we were starting at the 30 yard line because we had continuity. Now, we weren't starting on their side of the field. We had a long way to go. But because the continuity, that was really so much of our success as time went on. And it didn't always have to be the players. A lot was the players. We had a lot of great culture drivers of our team when I think later in my career,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Devin McCordy and Patrick Chung and Steph Gilmore. and James White, a lot of the guys up front in the offensive line, early in my career. It was Bruske and Vrable and McGinnisd and Larry I was so many great players I played. I see a lot of them last week. And we had so much fun just reflecting on all the time that we spent together because those were some
Starting point is 00:31:27 the most joyous moments we had in our life. There was such a freedom to go out and just play the game that we loved. And it was just a magical time in all our lives. And you try to recreate that in other places, but it's very difficult because everyone does something a little bit differently. And we just had a really unique culture there at the right time. What percentage
Starting point is 00:31:45 when he comes on this show, what percentage of Edelman's stories are true? They're mostly true, often embellished. Sure. So that's, you know, that's part of Julian. And Julian's actually become a great storyteller. And, you know, kind of, I think he's
Starting point is 00:32:01 approached media a lot like he approached the NFL. And he think he's gotten really good at it. Yeah, he's, no one's going to outwork Julian. Julian's always going to put the time in. He's going to try to suck up all the information he can from people to try to use it. And he's got a great personality. And he always did as he played, too. He was someone that was, well, Julian got tight, but then he had this volatility between being very tight and rigid and then very relaxed and loose.
Starting point is 00:32:27 So we've seen some of those. We've seen the loose part at the Fox outings quite a bit. Yeah, no, he's one of my favorites. I think a lot of my friends can attest to that that are here today. Hey, I'm late. I got bosses looking at me. Yeah, don't get in trouble. I don't want to get in trouble either.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I already am. You'll be fine. I'm in trouble more often. Great seeing you. Thanks. Great to be with you guys. All right. Tom Brady.
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Starting point is 00:33:35 He's the smartest player to ever play. the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man.
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Starting point is 00:35:27 Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1010,000. The 1021 podcast, I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior.
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Starting point is 00:37:12 All right, so Aaron Rogers and the Jets, we got to talk about them. A very exciting season ahead. Obviously, Rogers hasn't taken a snap since week one of last year when he suffered the Achilles injury. His former Packers teammate, David Bacdiari, says the Jets will, quote, for sure make the playoffs this year, and that's not wise to bet against the four-time MVP. Colin, you just tried to say they were a seven-or-eight-win team earlier.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. Bakhtiari is saying they for sure make the playoffs. Well, David is Aaron's closest friend in the sport, I believe, and I wish him the very best. But the AFC's loaded. All the quarterbacks are healthy. Miami's a better offensive team. Buffalo's got the better roster.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So third place feels good to me. I do think they'll vie for the playoffs until the very end. But I'd like to remind everybody how difficult the schedule is late. At Miami, at Jacksonville, Rams are. are going to be good at Buffalo, Miami again. Even a Seattle game is sneaky. They get some breaks early, but that is a sneak.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Some? Well, I'd slow down on the brakes. Yes, they get Tennessee and New England early. They're probably going to be seven in one, Colin. Oh, boy. Other than the Niners, their favorites in all those games. San Francisco and Buffalo. Texans. Buffalo at home, Jets always split with Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You don't think they can lose against the Texans and at Arizona. Maybe that puts them to seven and two. Arizona, stop it. Next up, the commanders made a lot of changes this offseason, the biggest of which was bringing in Dan Quinn as a new head coach in drafting Jaden Daniels. Quinn has praised his rookie QB already and continued that in a recent media appearance. I think I said it recently, Jim, and I think this sums it up, right?
Starting point is 00:38:58 He has the humility and kind of the hunger of the young player. You know, I got a lot to prove. I still got a lot to learn. but he also kind of has the swagger and calmness of a veteran player. So I think those 50 plus starts from ASU and LSU, that seems to come about. You see him on the field in the huddle. That's where he's at his best. Yeah, he's going to work.
Starting point is 00:39:20 He's going to look a little like Lamar Jackson, maybe a little better early in the pocket, not quite as fast. He's going to look like a two-time MVP? No, he's going to look very quickly, very quickly. You're going to see a little bit of a prototype, Lamar. He'll be better in the pocket early than Lamar was, because he's just sat in the pocket more, less reliant and running, but he'll run a little bit like Lamar.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It won't be as dynamic, but I think his comp, Lamar is a pretty interesting comp. I think the kid's really good. He's a little slight. I wish he was 10 pounds heavier, but he's tall, he's smart, he's humble, he's a worker. We're paying all this attention to Caleb Williams. Jaden Daniels to me is going to be, and I've told you, I think they're going to make the playoffs. I think they're going to be the surprise team in the league. That's bold.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Remember last year Bryce Young looked super small in the podcast? pocket with the big helmet. Well, this kid's 6-3. He's a taller. He is. But look at how thin. He is. He is thin. There's no question. By the way, Lamar Jackson first year in the league. My take was, he looks skinny. And then Lamar, remember, the next two years put on weight. So, James got put on some weight, but he's not going to put on 20 pounds. That's not who he is. All right, final story, there was a lot of outrage when the U.S. Women's Olympic basketball roster was announced, and Caitlin Clark got snubbed. Well, Kevin Durant
Starting point is 00:40:30 was recently asked about the snub, and he believes it was justified. KD. said, I think there's proper steps you have to take in our world to be considered an Olympian. Right now, there's better candidates out there. I don't think that's a bad take. I think Kevin's a terrible take. Well, no, that's what a basketball purist believes is true, and Kevin's a basketball purist. Proper steps? What is this?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like the 1980s? Hey, you've got to start your journalism career in Tampa, then go to Vegas. It's nonsense. There are steps to life. You have to get licensed to be a lot of things. things. To be an attorney, you know. Kayla Clark has a license to shoot, and she's having one of the best rookie seasons in
Starting point is 00:41:11 WNBA history. Did you see the ratings for the game against Chicago? Highest rated WNBA game in 23 years. Yeah. Well, she got me to a television, so she's, she's magnetic. And they've never playing Angel Reese again this weekend. Yeah. So if you were doing the show next week, you'd probably open with Caleb Clark Monday again.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I don't have a problem with it. I think she has a magnetic quality. I think Tiger had it. Bryce Harbor has had it. Shohay Otani. If I'm walking by a TV and Shohayotani's up, I stop and watch. There's just, she's got a magnetic quality. Sometimes that's the best player.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Sometimes it's a player. Some people just have, you know, they just draw people in for whatever reasons. They can be on-air TV personalities. They can be quarterbacks. They can be coaches. I mean, you know, it's, it just seems very archaic when you've got a star. And she's a star. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Hey, by the way, fever. They're currently in the playoffs. I got a game tonight against the Washington Somebody's. I'll check out the score. Washington Mystics. Let's give the league its proper respect now. Washington Mystics. Oh, sorry, I didn't know the West.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Angeles Sparks. I know the Sparks. Yeah, I went to a Sparks game. They have names. Chicago Sky. Maybe you and Brady could go to a game together. Tom's busy. Is he?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Yeah. I don't encroach on my guests. their guests, we love having them. And they believe, and I don't encroach on that. You want to hang out and have beers where... I want to hoopie. Brady looked taller than I thought. Six-four. I think he looked bigger than six-four.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Be a post-player on my men's league. Yeah. I'm sure he's got time for it. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. I want to thank Tom and the bosses upstairs for getting him on the show today. You know, what's interesting with Tom is that...
Starting point is 00:43:03 But for his status and career, he's very normal. Well, you can have just like regular guy conversations. And I think that's a part of it. By the way, Peyton Manning's the same way. You can just have, like, there's something great about sports that cuts through all the nonsense. You can just be normal. See you tomorrow. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.
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Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm Tom Boca. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines, the biggest decisions, and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:34 My husband Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
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Starting point is 00:45:04 It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to him.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast.
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