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us live every day on the IHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. listening to Fox Sports Radio. We have a major league baseball trading deadline. And, but you know, it's interesting, J. Mack. So you're significantly younger than me. What is your sports relationship with MJ? I can remember sitting on a couch watching the sons and the Bulls and telling somebody,

he is so much better than the second best player in this league. And I did feel that with LeBron for about 10 years, and I felt it with Jordan. were you a huge you were a knicks fan so you didn't like him right okay thank a thank you for asking me i heard this rant and i'm just like what is he talking i totally disagree with it like i get nostalgia okay i like to think back oh man remember that summer me and my buddies didn't have a job and we just it was that most epic summer ever we texted about this sometimes but that's not the reality the reality is now the present and i feel like this nostalgia for jordan just keeps getting better when the reality he was, yeah, I thought he was really, really good, obviously the best player in the league,

but Colin, like, they were beating weak teams. Larry was cooked. Magic was cooked. Isaiah Thomas left early. All the best players had gone. And so in the 90s, I always thought, yeah, my Knicks have a chance. I did not like Jordan. I respected him, but I didn't like Larry Bird. I respected him. I didn't like Tom Brady as a quarterback as a Jets fan, but I respected him. I just think this love affair with Jordan is just so strange. We don't see it. it in the NFL, Joe Montana. Nobody acts like this about Joe Montana when Tom Brady's up.

We just don't do. We don't hear it. Jordan was the best player ever. He was the most dynamic player ever. He was the best trust player. He was a college star. LeBron didn't play. We didn't follow LeBron until he won one title and what do he do the next couple years.

It's a college star? I mean, James Worthy was the best guy on his team when he won won the championship. No, James Worthy acknowledges after four practices. And James Worthy acknowledges after four practices. and James was an NBA prospect, he acknowledged by like the fourth practice, Michael was better than him, and James Worthy's a Hall of Famer. More upside.

I mean, Worthy was the guy on that team, but okay, I digress. Go ahead. So the point being is Michael was a collection of many things. He was the best player. His game was incredibly memorable. It was pre-social media, so he was a little bit of an enigma. He had some mystery. He had the coolest shoes.

He had the best advertising campaign. He was six for six in the finals. and again, when you bounce around the league to multiple teams, part of Derek Jeter and Kobe Bryant's appeal, Yankees and Lakers, and that is it. Part of the lack of appeal for Kevin Durant. He's bounced around the league. So like, like, there is something to be said about

dealing with the duress and the turbulence of getting beat up and we all watch the story. And then when you win, we're part of your jersey. There's a love affair with Jordan. I don't think it's just tradition. Michael was the coolest, the most clutch, the best. And, I mean, if you go ask Phil Jackson privately about the two, he's like, guys, it's Michael. If you go ask yourself, look at how many players are critical of LeBron James' career.

Michael is held in reverence. Well, they were like 12 years old when Jordan was dominating. But one other point, Colin, mid-90s. the Dallas Cowboys dominate the NFL, they become America's team. They were not America's team in the 80s. What else happened in the mid-90s? Michael Jordan became the greatest ever, and the Internet emerged. And I really do believe, Colin, the Internet tying fans everywhere together,

and the ability to watch stuff online, go on these, all these websites. I think that contributed to this nostalgia because essentially everything changed in the mid-90s with the Internet. And we keep coming back to the Cowboys. they won, by the way, in the last 25 years? What have the Bulls won? Nothing at all. Yet there's still this nostalgia for the Cowboys and the Chicago Bulls because of Jordan and what Dallas did in the Mid-N-N-N-Den. But the truth is, there's a bunch of people who are big in the 90s that aren't big today. The two that are Michael, the greatest player ever, and the Cowboys,

one of the great dynasties of all time. There's hundreds of things that were big in the 90s, sports teams, that aren't big today. Well, I remember my Yankees. stunk in the 80s. And of course, like you said, Derek Jeter pops up, and guess who starts absolutely dominating the Yankees? Mid-90s was Yankees, Bulls, and Jordan, and the Dallas Cowboys, they absolutely dominated. And here we are 25 years later, still talking about all three. Well, maybe they're arguably three of the great teams ever. That's possible. Possible. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox

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who was an all-star last year. He has struggled this year. He was leading baseball and strikeouts, but the Yankees have had all sorts of issues with their fielding, and he's considered an above-average fielder at third base. They gave up some pitching prospects. Adam Wainwright, around the corner, and here's J-Mac with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd-line news. All right, Colin. And, you know, final hour of the week, we got to go to Aaron Rogers. When in doubt, you've got to lean on AR. Rogers, obviously, his first pass at camp was intercepted in Pittsburgh. He's also getting to know his new number one option, D.K. Metcalfe, apparently there are sweetmates at training camp.

But Rogers' latest prediction on Super Bowl contenders tells me he might be back on ayahuasca. Take a listen. I think that, you know, there's really only six to eight. they really have a legitimate chance. Sometimes it's 10 to 12, and there's teams that surprise you, but I would say on paper we're probably one of those 10 to 12. I think it's coming together times like this with these 17 or so practices that we have here and finding the chemistry and hanging out with each other in the lunchroom

and snack and the different times that we have and, you know, growing together through our practice. Yeah. Yeah. Super Bowl contender, Pittsburgh? Yes, no, maybe so? No. Again, remember, quarterbacks over 40 of won 12

playoff games, 10 by Brady. So technically, they're tied for 15th in Super Bowl odds. I actually would bet, you know, you could go in Vegas, you could bet yes, no, will they make the playoffs? I would bet Pittsburgh, no, for sure.

How does, yeah, I mean, that's, I don't know. I mean, Denver, yeah, I mean, I don't, disagree with any of those odds. Nothing there for our radio audience. The Super Bowl odds are bills, ravens, eagles,

chiefs, lions. I think lions aren't as great, but they're still really good. Commanders, Niners, Packers is a little high for me. Rams tied for ninth a little low. Bengals, bucks, Vikings aren't... I'd put the chargers ahead of the Vikings for sure.

I'd put the Broncos ahead of the Vikings for sure. I like to... I talk to somebody in regards to the Viking yesterday, love the offensive roster, but they don't, they don't know. Yeah. They don't know what they have with J.J. McCarthy. It was a lost rookie year. They made him travel with a team at one point. He got down to 175 pounds. Like, it was, it was very choppy. They kept most of it out of the news. The Vikings have no idea what they have with J.J. McCarthy until week one. Yeah, just to let the audience know how big of a story this is, Cowherd actually

called me yesterday with some J.J. McCarthy updates. It gave me pause. I'm not going to lie. So, anyways, let's go to another team in the NFC. How about this, Colin? This is my sleeper in the NFC. Michael Pennix and the Atlanta Falcons. Penix will be the starter. He sat for most of the season before playing at the tail end when Kirk Cousins was cooked. Anyway, Penix has high hopes for the Falcons offense and so do I. Here's take a listen. We should be the best in the league. You know what the guys we got around us? We should be unstoppable. So that's our goal. We want to be number one in all the

categories on the officer side of the ball. Well, I will say a majority of their talent is on the offensive side of the ball. So they should be good. I mean, they've got real players. I like both their backs. Obviously, Bejohn Robinson special. Drake London's great.

I mean, Kyle Pitts has never lived up to it. But it is a more than capable offense. No question. It's interesting. You mentioned Pitts. So again, once I start doing these previews, I'm reading everything. I'm trying to watch actual clips of these guys at the podium. Colin, a little thing I've picked up

on Pennix. He keeps hyping Kyle Pitts. And I'm like, what's going on there? Does he really like him? I know what it is. Kyle Pitts was so bad the last couple years. Everybody's down on him that Michael Pennix is trying to pump him up. I think he's trying to elevate Pitts, get his confidence back. They're going to need him.

But Pitts, man. Remember he was like going in for a touchdown and held the football out and it got knocked out of his hand? It was almost like a He's just had so many mental mistakes. Yeah, mental mistakes. And there are people that say, and I don't know him, but there are people that say he doesn't have a hunger. He doesn't love the game.

Tony Gonzalez years ago was sitting on the couch. And I remember asking Tony, I said, what percentage of guys love the game? And Tony Gonzalez said 3%. Oh, I mean, he was in the locker rooms. He's like, love the game, think about the game. Can't wait for the season to start. He goes, it's really low.

And the knock on Kyle Pitts is doesn't love the game. By the way, there's no, football's hard. Football practice is hard. You know, I remember as a kid, basketball practice is the best. Baseball's great. You're taking ground balls. You're in the cage.

Football practice? And I was the quarterback. It's no fun. We'll flex. I wasn't good, but it's like, so I, like, you can weed out players pretty quickly on their desire and they're, really, they're, The great ones are upset. Jay Glazer always says that.

The great football players, there's no outliers in it. The great ones are all obsessed. Aaron Donald was obsessed with working out. That's why he was Aaron Donald. Final story, Colin, is your boy, Baker Mayfield. He's had a career resurgence since landing in Tampa. I mean, two years where he's been fantastic. Well, Tampa GM, Jason Light,

sounds like he wants Baker around for the long haul, saying, I love Baker. I love everything he's done for us. The goal for us for Baker is to continue to be the player that he is. At some point, we reach an extension when the time is right, and he continues to be our QB for a long time. That's the goal. Listen, there's no denying it.

Baker, in two years in Tampa, has been one of the seven best quarterbacks in the league. I know cheese fans don't want to hear this. In the last two seasons, Baker has, at times, largely outplayed Patrick Mahomes. I saw your boy, CoSell was even saying Mahomes was one of the worst deep bowl throwers. last year in the league. Baker, one of the better ones. So it's funny. It's just two seasons.

You don't forget this. They forget how young Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald are. Baker's 30 years old. For an NFL quarterback, your prime is like 20, because you come into the league at 23. Your prime is like 25 to 32.

At quarterback? Yeah, quarterback. You're not defensive. 25? That seems like. Well, yeah, you come into the sport at 23. Yeah. So, like, Bo Nix, 61 college starts. He'll probably be in his prime next year, year three, because Bo comes in with all that work. So your rookie year, then your second year, and then Patrick Mahom said, the light goes on year three.

Everything slows down. So, you know, my take is, I think he's right in the middle of his prime. It feels like he's older because he's bounced around the league, and he's been such a noteworthy player since he was a Heisman winner at college. but the truth is Baker's right in the middle of his prime so I would keep I had no there was a list that came out

two weeks ago and people the execs in the league had him like 10 or something I have I probably have him 11 but I don't have a problem I think sometimes he can get when you hurry him up

like Donald like Gino Smith Baker can get a little reckless but he's got when he has time to throw and they have good running backs Jay Mack they have a good run game he can let it rip

with the best of them. Jay McLeod News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. By the way, Nick Saban was on Fox News, and yes, I know,

Steve Sarkeesian was kind of poking fun at me yesterday saying, I asked him if Saban would go to the NFL and he said, well, you've already got him there. You've already got him with Arch Manning. But Saban was asked about coaching in the NFL and here was his response. There is no opportunity that I know of right now that I would enhance me to go back to coaching. Right now.

That's not definitive. Yes, no, never, absolutely not are definitive. That is sort of the classic parsing of words, not right now. Like I said before, I'm not hungry right now. I will eat at some point later today. Right now is not then or later. It's, well, right now, I think a lot of things right now. Here was Dave Wonstadt earlier if Nick Saban could possibly return to the NFL. He would take the phone call just because, you know, everybody wants to be wanted. Everybody wants to, you know, and I can speak from Jimmy. I mean, I'm not getting into the teams, but even

when Jimmy was into Fox several years, okay, when he was done with it all, that he called me one time in particular and was offered so much money to run the whole thing, coach GM, everything with the team, and he took the call, you know, but obviously he didn't have any interest in doing it. So I think that's where Nick's at right now. I mean, right now is circumstantial. I mean, Sean McVeigh, loved coaching, thought about leaving for Amazon Prime to do games, and now he recently said he's committed to coaching for years to come.

So there is a burnout factor with the NFL, but Jim Harbaugh, it didn't end the way Jim Harbaugh wanted it to end. And he could have stayed at Michigan for a long time. He won that Natty, boom. Justin Herbert's available. I'm just saying if Arch Manning is available and the Saints draft him, Nick coached at LSU, you're taking the call. and you know i think gail benson still owns a franchise you know they would they would pay top

dollar i'm going to say something a manning i'm almost rooting for that i want to see arch manning play for the saints would that be great or what that would be unbelievable full circle arch plays there patent to the colts and broncos eli to the giants arch goes to that that would be an unbelievable story let's all collectively root for that Wouldn't that be crazy? How good would that be? Think about this. Just think about this, Jay Mack.

I mean, part of it's the NFL, it's crazy, but almost all the good teams are small markets. Philadelphia is not obviously, but it's a lot of Green Bay. It's a lot of Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo, it's a lot of that. Can you imagine if Arch Manning went to the Saints and they have a 15-year run? Like New Orleans had Breeze and Peyton, another small market. Like in a weird way, that's why whenever I hear about the NFL, Rigg, are you kidding me? It's dominated.

The big markets until last year, D.C. was bad for 15 years. Atlanta's never wins consistently. The New York teams are a mess. Chicago's a mess. I mean, the big markets, Houston Forever was a joke. Dallas now is not what they used to be. Philadelphia is one of the only consistently in L.A. Rams, consistently big markets that are good.

Philly and the Rams. It is a league dominated by small markets. Can you imagine the Saints getting Archmanning? That is unbelievable. I mean, listen, it would be good to get another good quarterback in the NFC, obviously, but no, I want them on my jets. I don't want them on the Saints. By the way, before we go to tomorrow's headlines today,

I do want to play a bite for those that missed it. Caleb Williams struggled today again at practice, two Red Zone picks. Dave Wanstatt made a really good point. Watch that coach the Bears years ago. He knows the organization well. Here is Dave Wanstatt on why Caleb could be struggling. We would go through training camp, and let's say we were struggling running the football.

We would say, well, it's just preseason. It's just a training camp. Those things usually do show up once you start playing for real. And I would just say this. Caleb, keep in mind, last year at training camp, he was a guy that had a tough time getting a snap. because he was never up under center. I mean, this is how primitive the whole pro-passing game under center play action pass was to this kid.

By that, I mean, it's one, two, three, the ball's coming out. Now you've got to get it obviously to the right person, or it might be five steps, one, two, three, four, five. And everything is tied together from the line protection to the receiver routes and the quarterback. This is a great point. everything in Ben Johnson's offense. This is like Kyle Shanahan is timing,

and those coaches like their quarterbacks to be under center. Caleb Williams would prefer to be in the shotgun. So that is part of the timing issues. A great point by Dave Wonstadt. Tomorrow's headlines today to wrap up a Friday next. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHard Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it

One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down Yes I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing A bit for the podcast People could call in and say hey Jonas And then I wrote down on my little notepad

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People are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where sports slice comes in. I'm Timbo.

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Search learn the hard way and listen now. Lock up an Indy Series championship. Or will the pack hold him off at Laguna Seca? It all starts Sunday at 3 Eastern only on Fox. Good stuff for Dave Wonstadt today on Caleb Williams. So we had a fun week. It was Big Ten Media Week. So we brought Sark on and Ryan Day of the Buckeyes on.

James Franklin and Penn State came on. Lincoln Riley came on. So we went out and took it. a big swing on the coaches and a lot of fun. And I've said this before. The SEC is always going to be powerful because they have such great passion. There's a lot of great high school football programs in the South. There's a lot of good coaches and a lot of money. But it does feel like between Phil Knight's money coming in from Oregon, Huskies have money, not Ohio State money, but the Huskies in Seattle. It's a big market, a lot of tech, Microsoft, Starbucks, they got money. And USC's NIL, I can tell

you this is up to 18 million a year. They also paid 300 million for new facilities. So LA is, I mean, they're the NIL money, Lincoln told me off the air yesterday. It's, it's, it's coming pouring in now. So there's just, and you got to remember, you got Seattle market in Chicago and New York and in, in L.A. and Seattle, it's just bigger markets. The SEC's got much smaller markets. They've got Atlanta, but it's a, it's a lot of Starksville and Oxford's and Knoxville's. and I've said this before, you know, in the South, a car dealer, a big car dealer, that's a lot of money. And by the way, it's a lot of money relative to the rest of the country. But the Big Ten right now, those NIL, and they're going to get Notre Dame eventually to come to that conference,

those Big Ten schools are massive. They've got 30, 40, 50,000 students, and that means you flush a lot of graduates out into the workforce, and a lot of them come back and still go to the games and give money. So there was always an understanding that through the churches, the SEC was, grease and some palms. But once everybody could pay, there's a lot of money in the Big Ten, especially now that the big money programs,

Oregon, Washington, and USC, those are the big money programs. They've all moved into the Big Ten. They didn't take Oregon State and Washington State. They didn't take Arizona. They took Seattle and the Huskies, USC, UCLA. That's where the money is in the program, and Phil Knight's money.

So all of a sudden, the Big Ten's been infused with major markets, major finance, and major NIL players. And I think the conferences, I think they're better now than the SEC at the top. Michigan Natty, Ohio State Natty, and I think Penn States playing for it and possibly winning it. I just want to see how good Archmanning is. All right, the former newspaper guy, we call it tomorrow's headlines today. And because of all the Big Ten media and the college football talk, that's going to be our theme today from J-MAC. So let's start it off tomorrow's headlines today.

How about the headline for Notre Dame the Fighting Irish J-Mack this season? We have SEC media day, Big Ten media. We got to get Freeman on the show. I mean, there's a guy we thought was ticketed for Chicago. I like Notre Dame, the headline for the Fighting Irish this season will be all washed up. no Irish spring back and scrub the past. Yes, I like Notre Dame, back to the playoff, Colin. There's a lot to like about this team.

I mean, starting with Jeremiah Love. I mean, I like stuff. Jeremiah Love, they're talking about him being in the same category for the draft next year as Bejohn Robinson and Ashton Genty, like a top 15 guy. Jeremiah Love is a superstar waiting to happen. I mean, the Irish return, I think six starters on offense. Obviously, your boy, as you see on the screen there, Riley Leonard is gone. but they're going to be very, very good.

Obviously, the schedule, you know, it's front-loaded, Colin. I wrote it down here. They've got to travel to Miami and face Carson Beck. That's not a layup. That's a win. You sure? Miami's pretty good. They host Texas A&M, hopefully a win there.

At Arkansas is a tricky one going into SEC country, and then, of course, the game you tried to squash Notre Dame plays USC. So I like this team a lot. Six starters back on defense. I have Notre Dame back in the playoffs. I don't know if you agree with me or not. Well, I think Marcus Freeman is the best recruiter they have had there since Lou Holtz in his prime. Ooh.

I think he is a, I think Marcus Freeman. Brian Kelly? I think he's a better recruiter. I think he's got more energy, more youth. He's very relatable. I think he's the best recruiter they've had since. Lou Holtz was a great recruiter. I mean, he was a great motivational speaker.

Marcus Freeman can flat out recruit. And I've been told that by coaches on the trail. Dude can flat out connect with kids. so Notre Dame's in a good space. Tomorrow's headlines today. How about the Buckeyes? What's the headline? Yeah, it is a tough one because obviously coming off the national championship,

they have the huge season opener against Texas here on Fox. I like Ohio State, but the headline for the Buckeyes this season will be the Franklin-Minted Gritty-Nit-Nit-Nit-Nestment lowers value of the buck. As in Buckeyes, I think Ohio State is just a smid shimit. worse than Penn State in the Big Ten, Colin. And listen, there's a lot to like, obviously, about the Buckeyes. I think they do take care of Arch Manning and Texas in the opener at home. They have, I think, the best player in the country in Smith. I like downs a lot. I just, it's really difficult to repeat. Everybody's gun it for you. Penn State's just a little better

than Ohio State. So I have the Buckeyes losing in the national championship to Penn State and an all Big Ten Natty. Now, that's a little bit out there. I'm sure you'll disagree. I do like the Buckeyes. By the way, that will cement my take that the Big Ten's better than the SEC if you get Penn State and Ohio State and the Natty. Yeah, I mean, I just don't see the SEC team that really terrifies me. I like Georgia's schedule, but a lot of questions about Stockton, the quarterback, and I don't see it with Alabama this year.

So I've got Ohio State going to the National Championship. Tomorrow's headlines today. Okay, what will be this season's college football playoff? I'm interested. Dark Horse. Like last year it was the Indiana Hoosiers. That's right. Yeah, that's right.

So last, maybe last month or two months ago, remember, we went on a prediction, and you went with Illinois, I believe, in the Big Ten. I am going deep into the Big 12, the headline for my sleeper in college football, call tech support. Red Raiders hacked their way into the college football playoff. I've got Texas Tech, get into the playoff. They're going to be plucky. Colin, if you follow this story, they are like low-key, as the kids say,

one of the crazier stories in college football this off season. They hit the portal harder than anybody. I just looked at their depth chart. 11 new starters, mostly thanks to the portal, that are going to come to Texas Tech. And if you look at the schedule, it ain't that hard. They do have to go to Utah, and they do have to play at Arizona State.

Arizona State's going to be very good again. But I think this Texas Tech team, you've got to spend money to make money. I think they're going to the playoff because they've got such good support coming from the transfer portal. It's an interesting situation that's brewing because we've seen in the last couple of years, if you hit the portal hard in the right way, you can make that leap. Remember Washington a couple years ago.

Indiana last year, like, you can make moves, and I think Texas Tech is on the up and up. Yeah, you've got to be careful, though. It's got a fine line. You don't want 30 new players. Tomorrow's headlines today. Oh, the headline for the Heisman Trophy winner. You're going to beat everybody to the punch on this. Yeah, well, you know, you look at the odds, and, you know, like, okay, I don't know about

This guy, a lot of questions. You seem bullish on a certain archmanning at Texas. I say, no, no way. The headline for the Heisman Trophy will be the Hansman Trophy. Buckeye doesn't bobble the bronze. It's obviously got to be Jeremiah Smith. I mean, Colin, that kid is, as a true freshman last year. Oh, he was unstoppable.

Unstoppable. In that playoff run, they just throw up and he was dominant. I mean, go watch that Oregon game in the Rose Bowl. He was unguarded. The guy is super special. Now I know we've seen this with Marvin Harrison, Jr. And other wide receivers, he's different. He's got the speed, the power, the work ethic.

I think Jeremiah Smith, best player in the country, I've got Ohio State's star receiver winning. Look at that speed. I've got him winning the highman. I don't know who else you could go with. I don't think Arch is a good bet, by the way. Yeah, I would, I think that's a pretty good bet. If I had to guess, I'd put him one.

Drew Aller in that Penn State backfield, Drew Aller is going to put up big numbers at Penn State. And he's going to have big high-profile games too. Their running backs are very good, and they probably will be blowing people out. So I don't know if Aller is going to be throwing a lot in the fourth quarter and have the numbers. Jeremiah Smith's going to be first quarter, second,

they're just feeding him. So Aller is probably not the worst bet as second, but I like Smith to win it. Yeah, they have two, like Ohio State last year, the Nittany Lions have two NFL running backs. Singleton and the other kid. All right, let's a little pivot to pro football. Tomorrow's headlines today.

We've got to give J-Mac one. What is your headline for the beleaguered New York Jets? So yesterday they come to me, hey, Justin Fields' toe, broken toe, like this is bad news. What if he's out seven weeks? And then we see video of him today kind of jogging, not doing all the drills. But it sounds like he's going to be okay. That being said, the headline for my Jets this season will be. toe-jammed. Jets limp into season needing arch support.

Now listen, I'm going to try to speak it into existence, because I still remember, I'm such a loser when it comes to football and watching. Colin, I will never forget that Jets Rams game a few years back that cost the Jets Trevor Lawrence, a meaningless win. I was all excited. I mean, can you imagine Trevor Lawrence and the Big Apple? It should have happened. And they won that stupid meaningless game.

to settle for Zach Wilson, the rest is history. You can't let that happen with Arch Manning, okay? If Justin Fields is not feeling great, sit out, my friend. We got Tyrod Taylor, and I know nobody wants to tank, but Aaron Glenn, hey, you want a quick rise to the top of coaching? Get Arch Manning next year as your quarterback. And I know there's a lot of questions about him. Jay, he's had two starts. How can you feel so good?

Well, I don't know. He's 6'4-21, runs like the wind, and he's related to Peyton and Eli. Yeah, he didn't run like Arch or Peyton. runs like Archie Manning who played for the Saints. Archie Manning was a great athlete. You know, Peyton and Eli were classic pocket quarterbacks because, you know, their dad probably said, don't run around and get hurt like me, sit in the pocket and throw. And they also had better teams that Archie Manning, the Saints were horrible. But Arch Manning is very modern. He is a modern quarterback. He can tuck it and run. He's ripped. I've followed his

Instagram. I've seen many a shot. Dude is ripped. Sark told us. this week. I said, what's his best trait? He said, unbelievable work ethic. You know he's smart. And it goes back to he's not going to get two speeding tickets his first week with his team. Like he's just, he's got self-awareness. He's just a smart guy. And you know, listen, I liked Carson Beck at Georgia, but he got so much NIL money. There were reports that this guy had like two Lamborghinis, right? And he's pictured with them. He's got the celebrity girlfriend and all this. And he just felt like he was really enjoying being famous. I don't get that. vibe at all from Arch Manning. I mean, he feels kind of grounded. I don't know him personally.

Never met him. But when you see him in interviews, he just looks very humble like he's gotten the media training. He kind of gets it, Colin. Oh, he doesn't kind of get it. He gets it. I mean, I know the Manning family well enough. Classy, smart, thoughtful, understand. I mean, they could be, they have so much power. But I've got to tell you something. Arch Manning to the Saints would be Would that be unbelievable? The more I think about that, I'm like, oh, that's perfect for the NFL. That is literally come full circle and have Archie and Arch play for the Saints. And that would be another small market flourishing in the NFL.

At that point, do you fire the coach they just hired? Or do you, what do you do? Like, I mean, Arch Manning to the state, like, that team is not very good. They're like a five-wind. There's not a lot of skill position guys around him. Yeah, I don't know if you fire the coach. Dennis Allen didn't work, more of a coordinator. I don't know if you do that.

Didn't work is putting it mildly, but okay. We are, you know, we're, I will say that the right teams in college football right now are good. Texas, if you told me what teams need to be good for the sport to be popular, I would pick literally Texas, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, in the Northeast, Penn State. I think USC and Oregon out west carry a number. Georgia. Georgia helps, absolutely. But I'm telling you, Notre Dame and Texas are bigger overall brands.

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